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Magnesium Quick Reference

Magnesium Quick Reference

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Context

Magnesium (element Mg) is a core program supplement. Due to filtering of modern drinking water, deficiency in modern industrial-scale crops, grain-heavy diets that block what little Mg most people get, and use of PPIs, your level, on starting the program, is almost certainly suboptimal.

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Overall context for this topic
General information
Program target
Cautions
Supplement considerations
Supplement suggestions
Testing considerations

General Information

The need for Mg has been part of the program, going back at least a decade, and is extensively discussed in all the books and program materials:
Book: Undoctored: starting page 292 of print edition
Blog: Why is magnesium so important?
Video: The Trouble With Magnesium and Migraines (public)

Program Mg Target

Program target is based on a suggested daily intake, ideally confirmed by a blood test:
 400 to 500 milligrams per day (for adults)
 RBC Mg test, near upper end of Reference Range
See Testing considerations below for more information. The daily dose is mg of elemental Mg, and not the total weight of the Mg compound consumed. For comparison, the U.S. RDA for adult males is presently 420 mg.

This program target usually requires a magnesium supplement, in one or more forms from a very small selection of compounds.u21f1_north_west_arrow_to_corner Return to ToC

Cautions

Impaired kidney function requires monitoring of Mg serum levels. The kidneys are normally very effective at removing excess Mg.

In otherwise healthy people, the principal hazard of excess Mg intake, or use of poorly-absorbed forms, is a laxative effect, that can interfere with absorption of other nutrients.u21f1_north_west_arrow_to_corner Return to ToC

Supplement considerations

Supplement form

Before considering a supplement, have a rough idea of how much Mg you get from foods. The “Why is magnesium so important?” blog article linked above lists the top program-compatible food sources. Any number of comparison web resources provide a breakdown of values.

The vast majority of Mg supplements on the market are frank laxatives. Those sold as mineral supplements, such as in multi-vitamins, tend to provide subclinical doses. The magnesium stearate form in many preparations may be biologically inert.

What also doesn’t work is transdermal Mg, such as soaking in epsom salt. There’s no real risk, but also no evidence that it has any real effect on RBC Mg.

The supplement formulations suggested are:
. magnesium bicarbonate (Magnesium Water)
. magnesium malate (usually in tablet form)
. magnesium glycinate (where higher doses are required)
. magnesium citrate (where calcium oxalate kidney stones are a concern).
The jury is still out on the L-threonate, -orotate and -taurate forms.

Although Mg is never consumed as the actual raw light metal, it’s important to be clear on the amount of elemental Mg provided by any compound in use. Product package labels can be frustratingly vague on this.

Dose timing

Spread intake over the day, so as to avoid undesired motility effects from taking too much at once.

Avoid taking Mg at the same time as any iron supplements.

Consider biasing intake toward evening, as Mg can aid with sleep.

If deliberately using a laxative, take your Mg mineral supplement well separated in time.

Dose adjustment

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Supplement suggestions

The top product recommendation is the program recipe for magnesium water, linked above. Once made, each daily amount can be consumed across day, and diluted with more water as desired. The main challenges with it are obtaining unadulterated Milk of Magnesia (esp. in the UK), and having it available for travel.

The Kroger GoodSense MoM product (Stimulant Free Original Formula, UPC 0 70030 13162 3, as seen on Vitacost), is (to date) just filtered water and magnesium hydroxide. This may be available under other names in various Kroger store brands.

Strikingly, Phillips (Bayer) “Genuine” “Original” MoM, as with too many MoM products today, contains bleach (sodium hypochlorite), which usually results in some sort of precipitate in the Mg-water, and is a potential microbiome hazard in any case. Any “original” forumla with NaOCl is not original.

For the cautious buyer, subscription site ConsumerLab.com periodically tests Mg supplements.

Check ingredients. The main issues to watch for in Mg supplements are calcium compounds, and Mg compound mixes that may include forms not well absorbed.

Source Naturals "625mg" product provides 433mg elemental Mg in a serving (which is 6 tablets). Their "1250mg" product provides 425mg of Mg in a 3-tablet serving.

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Testing considerations

Test details

Test Name Target Range Discussion
RBC Magnesium
CPT Code 83735
and not:
Serum Magnesium (Analysis Code 2551SP)
Near or even slightly above the upper end of the Reference Range The ideal test for Mg would actually be a tissue titer, but that would require a biopsy, so is not routinely performed.

If this test isn’t routinely covered by your carrier, it’s often cheaper to obtain it on your own, nanny state permitting, from a walk-in lab, perhaps via a Life Extension order. Self-directed price range: US$66.00-117.00.

Test Day Considerations

Fasting status: It is not necessary to test Mg fasting.
Day’s Mg supplement: may be taken before or after draw
Time of day for test: anytime
Interactions: take any medications as you would normally
Re-Test timing: after a supplement dose adjustment, wait at least 6 months before re-test.u21f1_north_west_arrow_to_corner Return to ToC

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NIH recommendation for Mg is ! gram per day as Mag

for the folks in Rio Linda that’s about 5 grams of Mag Malate




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So, Potassium bicarbonate and potassium citrate in Club soda is a no no?
It’s hard to constantly be bombarded with non compliant ingredients.   :-(


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You just saved me from trying to convince Mother that she needs a better form of magnesium. Instead, depending on her blood test result, we’ll make what she’s taking work better.
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Well after talking to HeartHawk. I decided to make mag water with 2 teaspoons of magnesium hydroxide per 2 liters of seltzer water. I will see if I get it down Fine. HB


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So there are important links to the wheatbelly blog that can only be accessed with yet another PAID membership? Are you joking? Is there a direct link to the magnesium water recipe anywhere that doesn’t involve having to pay another monthly fee?
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Gangelo, click on Protocols at the top of the page. Click on Atrial Fibrillation. The magnesium water recipe is a short way down the page.


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