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 Stents / Bypass don’t really work?
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Posted: 4/21/2019 3:26:33 PM
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I don’t know if there have other studies after COURAGE. It showed, what, that stents didn’t do any better than "optimum medical therapy?" Which is, what, statin and aspirin, blood pressure drug if needed, exercise, low-fat diet? It seems I have seen other studies that included CABG to be equally as ineffective?

That’s hard to wrap your head around. If stents/bypass don’t work, why do they still do so many? Or do they do much less?

What if someone is diagnosed with multiple blockages via a cath? Are we to surmise that he would be just as well off to NOT have stents of CABG and go with OMT?

Another thing I don’t understand is... we take the position that statins really don’t do anything. And aspirin is suspect. So, how does their OMT do ANYthing good?

My paternal history is terrible, Dad and his brothers all had heart disease and I do. Now I convinced my younger brother, age 60, to get a scan and it was bad -- 718 score. He just had a cath last week and was diagnosed with six blockages.
-RCA is 100% blocked and grew a collateral.
- Circumflex has 80% blockage and a branch has 80%
- LAD is 40% blocked and a branch has 80% and another branch has 80% blockage.
The cardiologist did not do anything, no stents or CABG, as he felt he had to study up on the situation and make a game plan. One was do 3 stents and treat others with OMT and other option was CABG everything. He didn’t give an option to do OMT on everything. I guess he is afraid of the 100% blockage that grew a collateral? BTW, he found that problematic; said he is not even sure they can get a stent through it.

My brother is awaiting a call to discuss it with a surgeon. I guess they will all confer and determine if they are going to stent or CABG.

So, all of this is confusing as to what people’s options are. When you are in this situation, your brain tells you that getting blockages opened is a good thing!

Sure would like some feedback on doing stents, CABG or OMT. And if their OMT sucks, how the heck can it be as good as stents/CABG? When you have your first event, chest pain or heart attack that leads to diagnosis of stenosis, does the body just have this first event and then you’re good to go for quite a number of years even if you do nothing or are you likely to have another one if you do nothing? Confused!

EDIT: Of course, the answer from here is to do Undoctored, but I was not including that in the confusion from the issue outside of that. Stents, CABG or OMT.
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What an excellent summary, Malcolm. I learned quite a bit. I know this isn’t my thread, but thanks!


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