Are there any alternatives to niacin?

In the Track Your Plaque program, we tend to rely a great deal on niacin. When used properly, 90-95% of people will do just fine and achieve their lipid and lipoprotein goals with the help of niacin, along with their other efforts.

Unfortunately, around 5% of people simply can't take niacin without intolerable "hot flush" effects, or occasionally excessive skin sensitivity--itching, burning, etc.

Why does this happen? These 5% tend to be "rapid metabolizers" of niacin, i.e. they convert niacin (nicotinic acid, or vitamin B3) into a metabolite called nicotinuric acid. Nicotinuric acid is the compound responsible for the skin flush. Most people can slow or reduce the effects of nicotinuric acid by:

--Taking niacin with dinner, so that food slow tablet dissolution.

--Taking with plenty of water. Two 8-12 oz glasses usually eliminates the flush entirely in most people.

--Taking with an uncoated 325 mg tablet of aspirin in the first few weeks or months. Eventually, you will need to revert back to a better stomach tolerated dose of 81 mg, preferably enteric coated. But a full 325 mg uncoated can really help in the beginning, or when you have any niacin dose increases, e.g., 500 mg to 1000 mg.

But even with these very effective strategies, some people still struggle. That's when the question arises: Are there any alternatives to niacin?

Well, it depends on why niacin is being used. If you and your doctor are using niacin for:

Raising HDL--Then weight loss to your ideal weight; reduction of processed carbohydrates, especially wheat products; avoidance of hydrogenated ("trans") fats; a glass or two of red wine per day; dark chocolates (make sure first ingredient is chocolate or cocoa, not sugar), 40 gm per day; fish oil; exercise; other prescription agents (fibrates like Tricor; TZD agents for diabetes; cilostazol (Pletal)). Niacin is by far the most effective agent of all, but, if you're intolerant, raising HDL is still possible through a multi-faceted effort.

Reduction of small LDL--The list of effective strategies is the same as for raising HDL, but add raw almonds (1/4-1/2 cup per day), oat bran and other beta-glucan rich foods like oatmeal. Reduction of processed carbohydrates is especially important to reduce small LDL.

Reduction of Lipoprotein(a)--This is a tricky one. For men, testosterone and DHEA are effective alternatives; for women, estrogen and perhaps DHEA. Hormonal preparations of testosterone and estrogen are stricly prescription; DHEA is OTC. I have not seen the outsized benefits on lipoprotein(a) claimed by Rath et al by using high-dose vitamin C, lysine, and profile, unfortunately. We are clearly in need of better alternatives to treat this difficult and high-risk disorder.

Reduction of triglycerides/VLDL/IDL--I lump these three together since they all respond together. If you're niacin intolerant, maximixing your fish oil can be crucial for reduction of these patterns using doses above the usual starting 4000 mg per day (providing 1200 mg EPA+DHA). Reduction of processed carbohydrates, eimination of processed foods that contain high-fructose corn syrup, and weight loss to ideal weight are also very effective. "Soft" strategies with modest effects include green tea (>6 cups per day) or theaflavin 600-900 mg/day; raw nuts like almonds, walnuts, and pecans; exercise; soy protein.

Reduction of LDL--Lots of alternatives here including oat bran (3 tbsp per day), ground flaxseed (3 tbsp per day), soy protein (25 grams per day), Benecol butter substitute (for stanol esters), soluble fibers like pectin, psyllium, glucomannan; raw nuts like almonds, walnuts, and pecans.

In future, should torcetrapib become available (by prescription), this will add to our available tools for these areas when niacin can't be used. Until now, the alternatives to niacin depend on what you and your doctor are trying to achieve. In the vast majority of cases, HDL, small LDL, triglyceride, etc. goals for heart scan score control can be achieved, even when niacin is not well tolerated.

Is flaxseed oil a substitute for fish oil?


This question comes up so frequently that it's worth going over.

Flaxseed oil is a wonderful oil rich in linolenic acid, which may provide health benefits all by itself. Some authorities have speculated that the substantial reduction in heart attack seen in the Lyon Heart Study, the study that demonstrated the healthy power of the Mediterranean diet, is due to linolenic acid.

Flaxseed oil is also rich in monounsaturates and low in saturates, both desirable qualities. Of course, I'm talking here about flaxseed oil, to be distinguished from flaxseed , which are the intact seeds. The seeds themselves also contain the same oils, but contain other components, specifically lignan, a plant fiber with suspected health benefits like reduction in cancer risk.

Despite all flaxseed oil's wonderful properties, it is definitely not a substitute for fish oil. Why do we use fish oil for our coronary plaque control program (trying to reduce your heart scan score)? Several reasons. Fish oil:

--Dramatically reduces triglycerides, usually by 50% or more.
--Dramatically reduces specific lipoprotein classes like VLDL
--Dramatatically reduces, often eliminates, abnormal postprandial (after-eating) lipoprotein patterns, like IDL (intermediate-density lipoprotein)
--Has been conclusively shown to reduce risk of heart attack and death from heart attack (GISSI Prevenzione Trial).
--Has been shwon to reduce risk of stroke.
--Modifies blood clotting parameters, particularly a 20% reduction in fibrinogen.

Flaxseed oil, or linolenic acid concentrate for that matter, do not accomplish any of these effects, all crucial if you are to gain control over your coronary plaque.

Flaxseed oil and flaxseed remain wonderful nutritional agents for their own reasons. But they will not substitute for fish oil in your program. Only fish oil--the real thing--does the job.

If you have coronary artery disease . . . do you know why?

This conversation is aimed primarily at non-followers of the Track Your Plaque program, because if you were a follower, you’d already know the answer!

I saw a woman in the hospital today. She’d just survived her second heart attack one week earlier. At 51 years old, she was understandably shaken, perhaps terrified. She felt that her future was uncertain and, in fact, had discussed with her husband what he should do to prepare for a future without her.

One week earlier, she’d received three stents that successfully aborted her heart attack. But, as is always the case, the modest delays of ambulance transport, the emergency room preliminaries, then of mobilizing an available cardiologist and catheterization laboratory team, totaled nearly two hours before her stent procedure. Inevitably, a moderate amount of damage had been done to her heart.

Her first “event” had been very similar: very little warning, then 911 and the flurry of activity. Both times, the cardiologists (two different physicians) complimented the patient on her prompt action. Both also called her heart attacks “close calls”.

She defied the odds with two near-death events. So, when I met her a week after her last heart attack, I asked an obvious question: “Has anyone told you why you’re having these heart attacks?”

She looked completely puzzled at first. She then said, “No, not really. I just assumed it was genetic. My mother went through the same thing when she was my age. But she didn’t get as far as I have, since they didn’t have these procedures back then.”

To me, this seems inexcusable: This woman had experienced two brushes with death and no doctor had established a cause. Could this woman’s belief be true, that it’s just genetic?

While there are, indeed, genetic causes for heart disease, the vast majority of these genetic causes are 1) identifiable, and 2) correctable. Genetic does not necessarily mean hopeless. It just means that the usual equation of heart disease risk management (heart disease = LDL cholesterol = need for Lipitor) has limited value. It would be like giving penicillin to people for any and all infections. It will work occasionally, but it will fail miserably in a great many cases. Treating LDL cholesterol with statin drugs is just like that.

Perhaps this woman has lipoprotein(a), a serious genetic trait that predicts heart disease at a young age and is largely unaffected by statin drugs. Or, she may have a severe excess of small LDL, only partially suppressed by statins. If she has the combined pattern of lipoprotein(a) and small LDL, that means she has two statin-unresponsive and significant genetic traits. But they respond to niacin, specific nutritional strategies, and several other agents.

The message: If you have coronary disease, you need to insist on knowing why. “It’s genetic” is not an acceptable answer. “There’s no proof of any heart disease causes beyond cholesterol” is also nonsense. “Everyone gets heart disease, or “hardening of the arteries”, eventually. You just got it a little before everyone else” is also patently ridiculous.

Identifying the causes of your coronary disease (or coronary plaque if you’ve had a CT heart scan) is the first step in developing a program of treatment that provides you with control over this disease.

Have you tried inulin yet?

If you haven't yet tried it to facilitate weight loss, it's really worth giving the new inulin-containing product, Fiber Choice "Weight Management", a try.

Recall (from a prior Heart Scan Blog) that inulin is a vegetable-based fiber found in celery, green peppers, etc. that, when exposed to water, expands to many times original volume. This simple phenomenon yields satiety--a feeling of fullness.


The manufacturer of the product has also added green tea, which has been shown in two small clinical studies to enhance weight loss, though by a different route.

We've been advising patients to chew two of the strawberry flavored tablets one hour before every meal (or with breakfast if you eat immediately in the morning). You'll be satisfied with less food and you'll experience less intense food cravings.

Though no one so far has achieved a huge drop in weight, it does seem to enhance a slow, gradual weight loss larger than achieved by diet and exercise alone. And it's very safe and inexpensive. If you give it a try to help you lose weight, let us know what kind of results you've obtained.

Fish oil update on Life Extension

An article of mine came out in Life Extension Magazine and is available on the online version at:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/sep2006_report_omega1_01.htm

This is an update on the heart health applications of fish oil.

Or, go to to www.lef.org and put fish oil into your on-site search and you'll come back to it in future.

Of course, it comes with Life Extension's promotion of its supplements.

Although it's not yet available online, the hard copy version of an article I wrote on homocysteine is available in the October, 2006 Life Extension Magazine. If you're not a member of their program, they'll send you a free copy just for signing up for it without obligation. Go to the home page of www.lef.org to do so. Or, Life Extension is available at newstands if you're in a rush or don't want to sign up for a free copy.

More on Vitamin D

If you haven't done so already, you should subscribe to Dr. John Cannell's free newsletter on vitamin D issues. His newest issue is available at:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/newsletter/2006-aug.shtml

A sign-up to subscribe is available on the same page.

I continue to be shocked and amazed at the prevalence and magnitude of vitamin D deficiency in the people I see every day. It's been a beautiful summer with very little rain. Most days have been in the 70-80 degree range--very comfortable to be outdoors in the sun and getting skin expoxure to activate vitamin D in the skin.

Yet, in the vast majority of people I see, summer blood levels of vitamin D are virtually indistinguishable from winter levels. Both hover around the 30 ng/ml range. Summer levels in Wisconsin people seem to be no more than 10 ng/ml higher than winter levels. This remains true even in people who spend a lot of their day outdoors gardening, walking, etc. wearing shorts and a short-sleeved shirt, i.e. with plenty of skin surface area exposed.

I'm at a loss to explain precisely why. Yes, it is Wisconsin. But a direct sun overhead, 75 degree day should be providing plenty of sun. My suspicious is that a combination of factors are at work: people are not spending as much time outdoors as they claim; they often seek shade; use sunscreen; and they're overweight. (Excess weight decreases vitamin D blood levels dramatically, yet another reason not to get fat!)

Read more about vitamin D by checking out Dr. Cannell's insightful comments on the unfolding vitamin D story. He holds nothing back.

Why not just get "perfect" lipids and call it a day?

What if you achieved the Track Your Plaque lipid targets: LDL cholesterol 60 mg/dl, HDL 60 mg/dl, and triglycerides 60 mg/dl?

After all, these are pretty stringent standards. Compared to national guidelines (the ATP-III Guidelines of the National Cholesterol Educational Panel), the Track Your Plaque 60-60-60 goals are laughably ambitious. There's a lot of wisdom hidden in those numbers. The triglyceride level of 60, for instance, is a level at which triglycerides become essentially unavailable for formation of triglyceride-containing lipoprotein particles such as small LDL and VLDL.

If you get to the 60-60-60 target, isn't that good enough? What if you just held your values there and went about your business? Will coronary plaque stop growing and will your CT heart scan score stop increasing?

Sometimes it will. But, unfortunately, many times it will not. The experience generated through clinical trials bear this out. Studies like the St. Francis Heart Study and the BELLES Trial both showed that just reducing LDL cholesterol is insufficient to stop plaque growth. Beyond the Track Your Plaque experience, there's no clinical trial experience that shows whether the 60-60-60 approach does any better.

In our experience, achieving 60-60-60 is indeed better than just reducing LDL. That makes sense. Just raising HDL from the average of 42 mg/dl for a male, 52 mg/dl for a woman adds advantage. Compound this with triglyceride reduction from the plaque-creating equation, and you've doubled success.

But there's even more. What if you had hidden patterns not revealed by conventional lipids? How about lipoprotein(a)? Small LDL? Postprandial (after-eating) abnormalities? Hypertensive effects (more common than you think)!

In 2006, stopping the increase in your heart scan score is, for most of us, not just a matter of taking Lipitor or its equivalent and sitting back. For nearly all of us, stopping the progression of your score is a multi-faceted effort.

Hospitals: Then and Now

It's 1920. The hospital in your city is a facility run by nuns or the church. It's a place for the very ill, often without hope of meaningful treatment, but nonetheless a place where surgeries take place, babies are born, the injured and chronically ill can find care. No one has health insurance and there's no Medicare. Everyone pays what they can. The hospital is accustomed to doling out plenty of care without compensation. For that reason, they welcome donations and sometimes will build new additions or other facilities in honor of a major donor.

Volunteeers are common, since the wards are understaffed and generally suffering from a shortage of trained nurses and personnel associated with the church. Drugs, such as they are, are often prepared from basic ingredients in the hospital pharmacy. Product representatives hawking medicines and devices are virtually unheard of.

Though their therapeutic tools are limited, the physicians are a proud group, dedicating their careers to healing. The majority of the medical staff volunteer large portions of their time to care for the poor who come to the hospital with very advanced stages of disease: metastatic tumors, advanced heart failure, debilitating strokes, overwhelming septicemia, etc.

Hospitals are usually governed by a board of clergy and physicians who make decisions on how to apply their limited resources and continually seek charitable donations.


Fast forward to present day: Hospitals are high-tech, professional facilities with lots of skilled people, complicated equipment,and capable of complex procedures. While they still house people with advanced illnesses, the floors are also filled with people with much earlier phases of disease. In general, they do a good job, with quality issues scrutinized by a number of official agencies to police practices, incidence of hospital-related infections, medication errors, care protocols, etc.

The hospital of 2006 is a more more effective place than the hospital of 1920. But its aims and operations are different, also. Though some churches are still involved in hospitals, more and more are owned by publicly-traded companies that answer to shareholders--shareholders who want share value to increase. Though donations are still sought, much of the revenues are obtained by concentrating on profitable, large-ticket procedures. More procedures are often generated by advertising.

Because they operate to generate profits, several hospitals in a single city or region compete with one another. The 21st century has therefore witnessed the phenomenon of hospital-owned physicians: more and more practicing physicians are employees of their hospital. That way, the physician brings all his patients and procedures to his hospital, not to a competitor. The top of the funnel is the primary care physician, who tends to see all disease when it first occurs. The primary care physician then sends the patient to the specialist, who is obliged (by contract) to perform his/her procedure in the hsopital paying their salary.




Representatives from companies manufacturing and selling expensive hospital equipment and drugs are everywhere, falling over themselves to gain attention of the physicians using their equipment and the hospital buyers who make purchasing decisions. Millions of dollars can be transacted with just one sale.

The number of volunteers has dwindled. The poor and uninsured are commonly diverted elsewhere, often to a government-funded, and often second-rate, institution. Hospitals measure success by comparing annual revenues and numbers of major procedures.

The hospital of 2006 is a vastly different place than 1920. If you're expecting charitable treatment, compassion, and selfless care, you're in the wrong century. In 2006, the hospital is a business. You don't expect charitable treatment at Wal-Mart or from your car dealer. Don't expect it from your hospital. They are businesses and you are a customer. Recognize this fact, lose the nostalgia for the hospitals of yesterday, and a lot more will become clear to you.

The dreaded small LDL particle

Brian is a 59-year old landscape architect whose starting CT heart scan score was 276.

Brian's food choices at the start were deplorable: a pound of sausage per week, sometimes more; butter on anything and everything; up to two pounds of cheese per week; hot dogs; etc. His lipoproteins were accordingly just as miserable: low HDL, high triglycerides, excessive (postprandial, or after-eating) IDL. Small LDL was a particularly stand-out pattern, with 95% of all LDL particles in the small category.

Brian made a dramatic turnaround in lifestyle and corrected all of his patterns--except for small LDL. After one year, small LDL still occupied 95% of all LDL particles, even though the quantity of LDL had been reduced. In order to help convince Brian that correction of his small LDL was going to be necessary to achieve control oover coronary plaque, I suggested that he undergo another heart scan. His score: 435, or a 57% increase.

Each day that passes, I gain more and more respect for small LDL as a cause for coronary plaque growth. Conventional thought among lipid experts is that small LDL should no longer be a factor if total LDL (e.g., LDL particle number) is reduced. But our experience suggests otherwise: when small LDL persists, we tend to see continued, sometimes frightening, plaque growth.

I therefore asked Brian to intensify his efforts: additional weight loss off his somewhat prominent abdomen (since visceral fat increases small LDL), further reduce wheat products and processed carbohydrates, increase niacin (to 1500 mg per day), and use more raw almonds and oat bran.

Don't let small LDL get the best of you. It is a nasty, sometimes persistent abnormality that has impressive effects on plaque growth.

Winning Through Intimidation

Do you remember the book, Winning Through Intimidation by author Robert J. Ringer?



In his 1984 bestseller, author Ringer details how to succeed in business by overwhelming clients and competition by appearing hugely successful and powerful. Rather than a business card, he'd hand out an elegant book to represent himself. He'd show up in a limousine to a meeting, even when he could barely afford it. He used these tactics, even when he was a small-fry, in commercial real estate and built a successful business following such techniques.

This reminds me a lot of what happens in conventional medical practice: The large and successful hospitals, filled with trained staff and technology, exude legitimacy and success. How can they possibly be wrong? Such overwhelming know-how and multiple levels of expertise mustbe right!

Let's be grateful that we do have access to such high-tech, capable care. Unfortunately, just as Mr. Ringer used deceptive practices to appear something he wasn't, this is also true in hospitals. Not all physicians have your best interests in mind. Their principal concern is how profitable your care can be for them--can you be persuaded to have your stent, bypass, etc.. After all, look around you: Aren't all this equipment and personnel impressive? Aren't you intimidated?

The patient that most recently drove home this issue for me recently was a smart and capable executive who came in for consultation. He had been told by his internist that a surgery (to replace his aorta, a HUGE procedure) was probably necessary. In my view, it was not--his process was simply not that far progressed. The risks for danger over the next several years was virtually nil. Unfortunately, this man, now confused and worried, sought an opinion from the chief of thoracic surgery (in the usual white coat and with professorial demeanor, I'm sure) in a major metropolitan hospital (in Chicago), who promptly rushed him off to the operating room.

The pathology report, cleverly not mentioned in any other of the hospital documentation, showed what I had suspected: this man had mild disease that wasn't even close to requiring surgery. But, with all that technology, $100,000 or so of costs, chief of surgery who looked the part, etc.--they must be right!

Robert Ringer's concepts only ring too true for hospitals and some of the unscrupulous physicians in practice. Don't allow yourself to be intimidated.
I Wish I Had Lipoprotein(a)!

I Wish I Had Lipoprotein(a)!

Why would I say such a thing? Well, a number of reasons. People with lipoprotein(a), or Lp(a), are, with only occasional exceptions:

--Very intelligent. I know many people with this genetic pattern with IQs of 130, 140, even 160+.
--Good at math--This is true more for the male expression of the pattern, only occasionally female. It means that men with Lp(a) gravitate towards careers in math, accounting, financial analysis, physics, and engineering.
--Athletic--Many are marathon runners, triathletes, long-distance bicyclists, and other endurance athletes. I tell my patients that, if they want to meet other people with Lp(a), go to a triathlon.
--Poor at hydrating. People with Lp(a) have a defective thirst mechanism and often go for many hours without drinking water. This is why many Lp(a) people experience the pain of kidney stones: Prolonged and repeated dehydration causes crystals to form in the kidneys, leading to stone formation over time.
--Tolerant to dehydration--Related to the previous item, people with Lp(a) can go for extended periods without even thinking about water.
--Tolerant to periods of food deprivation or starvation--More so than other people, those with Lp(a) are uncommonly tolerant to days without food, as would occur in a wild setting.


In short, people with Lp(a) are intelligent, athletic, with many other favorable characteristics that provide a survival advantage . . . in a primitive world.

So when did Lp(a) become a problem? When an individual with Lp(a) is exposed to carbohydrates, especially those from grains. When an evolutionarily-advantaged Lp(a) individual is exposed to carbohydrates, more than other people they develop:

--Excess quantities of small LDL particles--Recall that Lp(a) is a two-part molecule. One part: an apo(a) made by the liver. 2nd part: an LDL particle. When the LDL particle within the Lp(a) molecule is small, its overall behavior is worse or more atherogenic (plaque-causing).
--Hyperglycemia/hyperinsulinemia--which then leads to diabetes. Unlike non-Lp(a) people, these phenomena can develop with far less visceral fat. A Lp(a) male, for instance, standing 5 ft 10 inches tall and weighing 150 pounds, can have as much insulin resistance/hyperglycemia as a non-Lp(a) male of similar height weighing 50+ pounds more.

Key to gaining control over Lp(a) is strict carbohydrate limitation. Another way to look at this is to say that Lp(a) people do best with unlimited fat and protein intake.

Comments (33) -

  • Bill Davis

    8/8/2012 1:17:58 PM |

    I have Lp(a) and am working on reducing it.
    Have been off wheat for several years now and on a low-carb diet. Hope I find that diet as well as fish oil, thyroid treatment, niacin and DHEA will bring it down.
    Thanks for making me feel special with this article! I have cross posted it. Scan coming up next month to give me a look at how I'm doing.
    The other Bill Davis

  • Joe

    8/8/2012 5:05:52 PM |

    I know this is probably a stupid question: but who doesn't have Lp(a)? My last VAP said that I have a Lp(a) of 7.0 and that <10.0 is preferred. Do some people actually have zero Lp(a)?

    Thanks!

  • randallbb

    8/9/2012 3:01:37 PM |

    I too am high Lp(a) and fit largely the profile Dr. Davis has outlined.  Am working on the Lp(a) with all guns blazing!  My new TYP lifestyle along with high amounts of fish oil and Niacin have brought it down markedly in just six months (from 61mg to 46mg on the NMR profile).  Am eating lots of cheese, nuts, etc, so am glad to hear that fats are a good thing!  Dr. Davis' post here reminds me to keep limited my carb intake!

  • Holly

    8/9/2012 10:44:08 PM |

    Any ideas why these traits would correlate with Lp(a)?

  • aerobic1

    8/11/2012 2:28:01 PM |

    Joe:

    Yes, some people do have "zero" Lp(a).  It is partly determined by your genetics which you have no control over.  But, as Dr. Davis suggests you gain gain control over your Lp(a) with dietary interventions such as elimination of wheat and other refined carbs, along with taking a few targeted supplements.  His interventions do not involve pharmaceutical drugs as there are no drugs that effectively treat Lp(a).

    Three years ago my first VAP test revealed a Lp(a) level of 22.  Three years of following Dr. Davi's advice my level is now 3.  For more information go to http://www.trackyourplaque.com/default.aspx.

  • Joe

    8/11/2012 4:59:41 PM |

    Thanks for the feedback!
    On the other hand, aren't you on the way to having no Lp(a)?  From 22 to 3?
    I'm still not sure why having "high" Lp(a) is a good thing. I'm still confused. Frown

  • jpatti

    8/11/2012 9:08:51 PM |

    We're also good-looking.  And very sexy.  And surprisingly modest!  ;)

    So why the heck would the thirst thing be going on?  I don't get it.  

    I have this issue; I have to carry drinks all the time or I completely forget about drinking.  I never go anywhere without carrying drinks cause I don't remember until I've got a killer headache.  I've got a giant mug of coffee and a liter of ice water flavored with lime shrub sitting next to me right now.  

    It's not that I'm not thirsty, if you ask me, I become aware of thirst.  It's just that "thirsty" is not something I am aware of at all.  I don't notice it unless I ASK myself if I'm thirsty.  

    I'm also ridiculously picky, I can have a drink sitting next to me, but if the ice has melted, I don't "want" it no matter how thirsty I am.  

    I don't understand why I'm like this.

  • aerobic1

    8/12/2012 2:48:06 AM |

    Joe:  
    There is nothing good whatsoever about having any measurable level of Lp(a).  Zero Lp(a) level should be your goal.  The personality characteristics Dr. Davis pointed out are just some typical observations of Lp(a)er's but do not assume the higher your Lp(a) is that the more intelligent, better at math or athletics, etc. you will become.  Lp(a) offers no advantage in that regard.

    There is plenty of good reading and advice from Dr. Davis on this subject on this blog on what Lp(a) is and how to self-manage it.  http://blog.trackyourplaque.com/category/lipoproteina.  Most all doctors are not well informed on this subject and therefore do not know how to treat it.

  • aerobic1

    8/12/2012 4:52:33 AM |

    jpatti:

    The sensation of thirst is governed by the Hypothalamus and Limbic System of the brain.  I do not have an understanding of why people with Lp(a) demonstrate this unusual thirst pattern that Dr. Davis has observed in people with Lp(a).  Here is a good explanation of how the typical thirst mechanism works.  http://www.enotes.com/thirst-reference/thirst.  

    Perhaps the normal brain hormone driven thirst mechanism in people with Lp(a) "malfunctions" and may not be producing enough arginine vasopressin to enhance thirst.  The relationship of renin, angiotensin II, and aldosterone also control water retension and thirst and may play a role too.

  • Joe

    8/12/2012 6:36:30 PM |

    Aerobic:
    Thanks again. I followed that link and it reiterated Dr. Davis' protocol, of: " i.e., wheat elimination followed by elimination of cornstarch, oats, and sugars; high-dose fish oil (total daily EPA + DHA of 6000 mg/day); vitamin D supplementation sufficient to achieve a 25-hydroxy vitamin D level of 60-70 ng/ml; iodine supplementation; and thyroid normalization which, in Ted’s case, required supplementation with the T3 thyroid hormone, liothyronine, at a small dose. "

    And I follow that protocol pretty closely (I don't take quite that much fish-oil).  My thyroid is fine. I have Pattern "A" LDL. Vitamin D of 90ng/ml. My TC is "high" but I have great trig and HDL numbers and ratios. My Lp(a) again is 7, which is well under the "reference range" of  <10 (according to VAP). But I'm unable to find anything anywhere that explains why having a zero Lp(a) is best, or what the mechanism is that makes it best. I'll keep looking around. Thanks for the help!

  • Joanna

    8/13/2012 8:16:28 PM |

    So we requested our doctor order an Lp(a) test along with several other blood tests that were being done - and later find out that our insurance company (Humana) will not cover the cost of the test, they gave some reason like it wasn't scientifically proven to be useful!!!  It's $65 so not sure if it would be worth fighting them on this one since they have been pretty good about covering most things.

  • Mark

    8/14/2012 2:59:56 AM |

    Hi Dr. Davis,
    I’m 47 yrs old. I’ve had migraines since I was a teen and I developed Athsma this past January (hate it). During the process of discovery the drs found I have a 50% blockage in one of the 5, non critical, arteries running along the back of my heart. Scared me, to say the least. I’ve always eaten quite healthfully (for what I knew), am thin @ 6′ 1″/155lbs (was 175lbs in Jan.). Had:
    Total Cholesterol of 200
    LDL of 146
    HDL of 50

    Drs wanted me to do Lipitor. Researched and said, “No, thanks.” Started exercising 5-6 days/wk (lifting + walk/run), taking red yeast rice, fish oils, fish, no meat, no dairy, no eggs, lots of veggies/fruit, etc., but still eat beans, oats (every AM), occasional wraps. After 6 wks my blood work (VAP) was as follows:
    LDL=86
    HDL=43
    VLDL=17
    TOT. CHOL=146
    Trigycerides=66
    Non-HDL (LDL+VLDL)=103.

    Seemed GREAT to me! The dr wasn’t impressed. Said my ‘particle size’ was small: LDL1(a)=8.1, LDL2(a)=0, LDL3(b)=39.5, LDL4(b)=24.9. Density Pattern=B.

    I’ve continued but don’t know how to elevate my HDL and reduce the particle size/change the pattern to the more favorable ‘A’. Getting down about this. Working hard but, seems like I can’t find answers that work, anywhere! What might you would work in my situation? Also, Is niacin ANDRed Yeast Rice a bad idea?
    I’ll hang up and listen. Thank you,
    Mark

  • Will

    8/14/2012 3:03:09 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Do you have any comments or response to the study released yesterday at the University of Western Ontario, comparing the risk of regular consumption of egg yolks to smoking on the increase of arterial plaque?

  • JoAnne

    8/15/2012 1:08:25 AM |

    Dr Davis, I recently had had a NMR LipoProfile done, but I don’t understand the numbers. I think it’s saying my LDL particle size is pattern A (good), but the total LDL-P number of 1985 nmoI/L is bad. And the HDL at 79 mg is good, but the TC at 307 is bad…. I’m so confused. Can you please summarize? I’ve been looking at the TYP website and I’m ready to join.

    LDL-P    1985 nmoI/L  (LDL Particle number)

    LDL-C    212 mg/dL  (calculated)
    HDL-C  79 mg/dL
    Triglycerides  82 mg/dL
    Total Cholesterol  307 mg/dL

    LDL & HDL Particles
    HDL-P   40.8 μmoI/L  (total)
    Small LDL-P  106 nmoI/L
    LDL size  22.1 nm

    Lipoprotein markers assoc with insulin resistance & diabetes risk
    Large VLDL-P  0.7 nmoI/L
    Small LDL-P    106 nmoI/L
    Large HDL-P  15.8 μmoI/L
    VLDL size    32.9 nm
    LDL size    22.1 nm
    HDL size    9.9 nm

    Insulin resistance score  0-100
    LP-IR score    5

  • kimsuoil

    8/15/2012 2:15:14 AM |

    Dr. Davis, I have Lp(a) and all of the traits above. Don't really know my IQ, but I am a Petroleum Geologist, been a runner for over 32 years,  can go many hours without water (ran a marathon in 3 hrs and 3 minutes when I was 24 in New Orleans and only had a small cup of water at the halfway point).  I have no problem eliminating foods and have high willpower to food.

    Before joining your Track Your Plaque program 3 years ago, I was on the "low fat"  high carb Am. Heart Assoc. recommended diet for many years.  At 48 I discovered that I had massive heart disease and received 6 stents.
    I now have to limit my carbs to very low to keep my small LDL particles somewhat low.

    Good news is now at 53 years old my carotids are getting better flow since on the TYP diet when I got my last carotid echo.

  • Gene K

    8/15/2012 5:59:29 PM |

    @Joanna
    We have coverage thru Blue Cross Blue Shield, and they require extensive review of why I would need an NMR or an Lp(a) test, after which they will decide whether to cover or not. I decided it was too much of a pain, so I order these tests thru privatemdlabs, and use their receipt to get reimbursed from my flexible spending account. If you have an FSA, you could do that, too.

  • Joanna

    8/15/2012 8:18:23 PM |

    Nope, no FSA account so that's not an option and they already have extensive records of why it would be warranted (if they even looked at medical expenses for the past year it would be obvious!)  Thanks for the tip though.

  • Dr. Davis

    8/17/2012 2:36:21 AM |

    Hey, Kim!

    Yes, we have to reverse this incredibly stupid tidal wave of low-fat that is enormously destructive.

    The proof is in the (carotid) pudding!

  • Dr. Davis

    8/17/2012 2:40:41 AM |

    There are a number of possibilities to explain this pattern, JoAnne.

    Among them:

    --Hypothyroidism
    --Apo E4 genetic type
    --Other genetic patterns

    Unfortunately, this is a pattern that may be difficult to correct with diet. You might also consider an HDL Labs sterol absorption panel to decide what role diet plays.

  • Dr. Davis

    8/17/2012 2:43:50 AM |

    This is a pattern that is highly responsive to diet, such as the diet used in the Track Your Plaque program, the diet discussed in these pages, and the diet I articulate in my book, Wheat Belly.

    By the way, you are currently on a diet that makes this pattern worse. Your diet of avoiding meats and eggs with lots of fruits causes the small LDL pattern and heart disease. And it sounds like you have an intellectually challenged doctor who wants to prescribe drugs but doesn't understand that your diet is contributing or outright causing your pattern.

  • Dr. Davis

    8/17/2012 2:45:54 AM |

    Nobody does.

    It is likely that the gene for the apo(a) protein of Lp(a) is somehow linked to a gene for thirst triggering and nothing more.

    More of a curiosity than anything else.

  • steve

    8/19/2012 1:36:11 AM |

    Hi Dr. Davis:
    Can LDL-P level ever be to low? I have heard lower is better, but when you get below 500, most of that can be small LDL-P.
    Thanks

  • Dr. Davis

    8/23/2012 2:00:59 PM |

    Yes, it can.

    But it should be mostly, if not all, large particles if you are following the diet advised here.

  • steve

    8/26/2012 8:39:17 PM |

    i do follow the diet, but unfortunately generate much in the way of small LDL-P
    I eat no wheat, small amounts of rice and potatoes, no other grains or sugars.  TRGS  were 26 which i thought  is an indication of carb intake.  Am guessing it is just genetics.
    How low is low for LDL-P and do you have any studies you can point that indite small particles?  All research I have seen indite LDL-P and say size does not matter.  Would be interested in seeing studies that show otherwise
    Thanks

  • jpatti

    8/28/2012 7:46:26 PM |

    Yes, I knew the hypothalamus was involved with thirst and the adrenals involved with electrolyte balance.

    Except... just last week, I had a board-certified endocrinologist tell me that ONLY the heart, liver and kidneys are involved in fluid/electrolyte balance:  
    http://gapsfort2.blogspot.com/2012/08/i-am-just-so-freaking-angry.html

  • Susan

    10/4/2012 9:59:33 PM |

    My pattern is very similar and I have had the sterol absorption panel, though I don't know what it means. Campesterol is optimal at 2.22, Campesterol ratio is Hypo at 63, Sitosterol is Hyper at 3.23, Sitosterol ratio is optimal at 88, Cholestanol is Hyper at 5.89 and Cholestanol ratio is Optimal at 172. What does this tell us?

  • Kindred

    10/31/2012 4:53:42 PM |

    My LP(a) was 167.  I got it down, in three months, to 22 using the strict vegan, Forks Over Knives approach coupled with 1500 mg of niacin before going to bed.  My math skills are deplorable as I have severe discalculia (the math version of dyslexia which I also have.)  I'm not competitive at all so, although very coordinated and active, I'm not athletic.  I drink lemon water or dandelion/chicory coffee frequently and frequently get up in the middle of the night for a glass of lemon water. I'm not diabetic and am tested for this annually.   I graze between  meals on celery sticks.   Also, I'm 1/8 Native American Indian. We are suppose to have low levels of LP(a.)

    I lightened up on the vegan diet using olive oil for cooking and my LP(a) rose in 3 months to 67 so it's back to Forks Over Knives again.

  • darin

    12/29/2012 5:47:33 PM |

    Confused, would this be the same thing as Lp(a) mass (mg/dl) i had on a recent Health diagnostics test?
    Mine is showing 44 and its supposed to be less than 30.

    There was also a Lp (a) cholesterol (mg/dl) and mine was 8- supposed to be <3

    Thanks

  • Fred Rutherford

    6/17/2013 5:00:36 AM |

    I have a lipid disorder. My doctor checks lpa once a month. Says thou I have minimal body fat I have to take cholesterol meds. Because my lpa is 14 times higher than what is considered high risk. This putting me at risk of blood clots. I under go quarterly ulta sounds of vascular system as well as annual Hart caths. A high price for being smarter than the average bear. Don't ya think?

  • Dr. Davis

    6/18/2013 1:29:29 AM |

    No, you have been misled.

    What you need are new doctors, plain and simple.

  • Mathieu Gagné

    6/18/2013 5:17:58 PM |

    That is very interesting! I never heard of this before, but it seems to fit to me pretty well. I have high IQ, I'm a physicist, don't drink enough water and would be fairly athletic if it wasn't for my crohn disease. The impact of giving up grains was huge on my health! A quick search and I've found this link between high Lipoprotein(a) and crohn disease:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11742189

    It would be interesting to ask my doctor about it!

  • Mary Ann Joyce

    2/15/2014 8:07:55 PM |

    I've the Berkley tests three or four times, and my Lp(a) was 217 in 2007; the latest test shows 80Lp(a).
    I have been on Crestor for a very long time, and now realize it does noting to lower the Lp(a).  On the latest test, my small particle was 21.2 and the large was 11.4.  What does this mean?
    I want to get off the Crestor and onto the niacin, etc., including pomegranate juice which, I understand, has properties that will lower the Lp(a).  I am aiming to cut carbohydrates out completely as well as reduce sugar to near zero.  Do any of you have suggestions for me?  Even though I am 70 years old, I am not ready for a stroke nor MI.  Thanks!

  • Sandra Tremulis- Founder Lipoprotein(a) Foundation

    5/7/2014 6:12:44 PM |

    For those of you interested there is now a foundation for high Lipoprotein(a)  www.lipoproteinafoundation.org

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The most frequently asked question of all

The most frequently asked question of all

The most frequently asked question on the Track Your Plaque website:

"Can you recommend a doctor in my area who can help me follow the Track Your Plaque program?"

This is a problem. Unfortunately, I wish I could tell everyone that we have hundreds or thousands of physicians nationwide who have been thoroughly educated and adhere to the principles I believe are crucial in heart disease:

1) Identify and quantify the amount of coronary atherosclerotic plaque present. In 2007, the best technique remains CT heart scans.

2) Identify all hidden causes of plaque. This includes Lp(a), post-prandial disorders, small LDL, and vitamin D deficiency.

3) Correct all patterns.


But we don't.

You'd think that this simple formula, as straightforward and rational as it sounds, would be easily followed by many if not most physicians. But Track Your Plaque followers know that it simply is not true. My colleagues, the cardiologists, are hell-bent on implanting the next new device, providing a lot more excitement to them as well as considerably more revenue.

The primary care physician is already swamped in a sea of new information, going from osteoporosis drugs, to arthritis, to gynecologic issues, to skin rashes and flu. Heart disease prevention? Oh yeah, that too. They can only dabble in heart disease prevention a la prescription for Lipitor. That's quick and easy.

Nonetheless, I believe we should work towards identifying the occasional physician who is indeed willing to help people follow a program like Track Your Plaque. As we grow, we will need to identify some mechanism of professional education and we will maintain a record of these practitioners. But right now, we're simply already stretched to the limit just doing what we are doing.

If you come across a physician who practices in this fashion and you've had a positive relationship, we'd like to hear about it.
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