"I have never seen regression"

At a presentation at the American College of Cardiology meetings in New Orleans yesterday (March 27, 2007), Dr. Arthur Agatston declared "I have been doing CT for many years, and I have never seen regression."

Whooooaaaa. Wait a minute here. I have great respect for the work Dr. Agatston has done over the years. He is, after the originator of the scoring algorithm that allows us to score CT heart scans (though a more accurate measure, the volumetric score, is the one we often use behind closed doors because of modestly increased accuracy and reproducibility). His diet program, the South Beach Diet, has achieved enormous success and is indeed an effective approach for both weight loss and correction of many weight-related causes of heart disease.

But he has never seen regression? Why would this be when we see it all the time? When we see heart scan scores drop 30%, it's hard to believe that with some savvy he has never seen regression (drop in score).

I can only attribute the difference to the more intensive endpoints we advocate (e.g., 60-60-60 for lipid values); the incorporation of adjuncts like fish oil, vitamin D, l-arginine; attention to non-cholesterol issues and intensified treatments for each. I doubt that the populations we see differ substantially.

As much as I admire Dr. Agatston's accomplishments, I believe that he is behind the times on this issue. No regression is so starkly different from the Track Your Plaque experience. I believe that relying only on statin drugs and diet will slow but will not stop plaque growth. It will also rarely, if ever, drop your score.

Attention to detail and a little insight into better preventive strategies really pays off. While not everyone in the Track Your Plaque experience will drop their score, a substantial number do. Many more slow plaque growth dramatically. And, as time goes on, our track record gets stronger and stronger.

COURAGE to do better

The results of the long-awaited COURAGE Trial were announced today at the American College of Cardiology meetings in New Orleans.

In this trial, 2200 participants with stable coronary disease (i.e., not unstable, in which heart attack or death is imminent) were randomly assigned ("randomized") to either angioplassty/stent or "maximal medical therapy." Medical therapy means such things as aspirin, beta blocker drugs, and statin cholesterol drugs. There was virtually no difference between the groups in rate of heart attack and death from heart disease over a period of up to 7 years.

These results have caused a stir in the media and my colleagues, trying to sort out of the implications. However, I think there's one observation in particular worth making for those of us who tend to scoff at the conventional approach to coronary disease. That is, 1 of 5 people had a heart attack or died from heart disease in both groups. That's a lot. Even more ended up with a procedure (angioplasty, stent, or bypass). In other words, the "maximal medical therapy" instituted in participants was hardly a success. Though angioplasty and stenting failed to prove superiority, both really stunk. Both permitted a lot of catastrophes to occur.

"Maximal medical therapy," in other words, is a laughable concept. It doesn't include raising HDL, suppressing small LDL, reducing Lipoprotein(a), addressing inflammatory issues. It does not include omega-3 fatty acids from fish oil, nor does it address the severe degrees of vitamin D deficiency that are proving, in the Track Your Plaque experience, to be among the most potent causes of atherosclerotic plaque known. It includes a sad attempt at diet, as advocated by the American Heart Association, a diet that, in my view, causes heart disease and is distorted by the powerful political and financial influence of food manufacturers.

If the trial were to be done again, I'd like to see the "maximal medical therapy" arm be represented by a more effective program like the Track Your Plaque approach.

Value of a zero heart scan score

Margaret is 73. She's a very good 73. She loves children and works full-time in a daycare. She manages her own household, goes to dinner at least once each week with one or more of her adult children. She is slender and has never been in the hospital--until she developed an abnormal heart rhythm called atrial fibrillation.

Most people who develop atrial fibrillation do so with no immediate identifiable cause. However, Margaret has been a widow since her husband died 15 years ago of a heart attack. She was therefore especially frightened of any heart issues in her own health. Her doctor also raised the question of whether atrial fibrillation might represent the first hint of future heart attack.

So we advised a CT heart scan. Score: zero, or no detectable plaque whatsoever. This put Margaret's risk for heart attack as close to zero as humanly possible. (Nobody is truly at zero risk for heart attack for a number of reasons. One reason is that people do irrational things like take cocaine or amphetamines, or they take too much decongestant medication, all of which can trigger heart attack.)

The heart scan settled it. Margaret has the sort of atrial fibrillation which likely simply develops as a result of "wear and tear" on the heart's electrical impulse conducting system and it has nothing to do with coronary heart disease or heart attack.

As that MasterCard commercial goes: Cost of a heart scan: About $200. Peace of mind: priceless.

You're at the cutting edge

If you're a participant in the Track Your Plaque program for atherosclerotic plaque regression, you are at the cutting edge of health.

Few physicians give this issue any thought. Chances are, for instance, that if you were to bring up the subject of reversal of heart disease to your primary care physician, you'd get a dismissive "it's not possible," or " Yeah, it's possible but it's rare."

Ask a cardiologist and you might make a little more progress. He/she might tell you that Lipitor 80 mg per day or Crestor 40 mg per day might achieve a halt in plaque growth or a modest reduction of up to 5-6%. If they've tried this strategy, they would likely also tell you that hardly anybody can tolerate these doses for long due to muscle aches. I'd estimate that 1 of 10 of my colleagues would even be aware of these studies.

Both groups are, however, reasonably adept at diagnosing chest pain, an everyday occurrence in hospitals and offices. Chest pain, for them, is a whole lot more interesting. It holds the promise of acute catastrophe and all its excitement. It also holds the key to lots of hospital revenues. Did you know that 80% of all internal medicine physicians are now employees of hospitals? They're also commonly paid on an incentive basis. More revenues, more money.

Ask Drs. Dean Ornish or Caldwell Esselstyn about reversal of heart disease and they will tell you that a very low-fat diet (<10% of calories)can do it. That's true if you use a flawed test of coronary disease like heart catheterization (angiograms) or nuclear stress tests (Ornish calls them "SPECT"). It would be like judging the health of the plumbing in your house by the volume of water flowing out the spigot. It flows even when the pipes are loaded with rust.

In the Track Your Plaque experience, extreme low-fat diets (i.e., high wheat, corn, and rice diets) grotesquely exagerrate the small LDL particle size pattern, among the most potent triggers for coronary plaque growth. This approach also makes your abdomen get fatter and fatter and inches you closer to diabetes. Triglycerides go up, inflammation increases.

If you were able to measure the rust in the pipes, that would be a superior test. You can measure the "rust" in your "pipes," the atherosclerotic plaque in your coronary arteries, using two methods: CT heart scans or intracoronary ultrasound. Take your pick. I'd choose a heart scan. It's safe, accurate, inexpensive. I've performed many intracoronary ultrasounds for people in the midst of heart attacks or some other reason to go to the catheterization laboratory. But for well people, without symptoms, who are interested in identifying and tracking plaque? That's the place for heart scans.

In our program, 18-30% reductions in heart scan scores are common.

A stent--just in case

Burt came to me last week. He'd received a stent a few months earlier. He'd been feeling fine except for some fatigue. A nuclear stress test proved equivocal, with the question of an abnormal area of blood flow in the bottom (inferior wall) of the heart.

"The doctor said I had a 50% blockage. Even though it wasn't really severe, he said I'd be better off with a stent, just in case."

Just in case what? What justification could there be for implanting a stent "just in case"? (The artery that was stented did not correspond to the area of questionable poor blood flow on the nuclear stress test.)

Just in case of heart attack? If that's the case, what about the several 20 and 30% blockages Burt showed in other arteries? The cardiologist was apparently trying to prevent the plaque "rupture" that results in heart attack by covering it with a stent. Why stent just one when there were at least 7 other plaques with potential for rupture?

That's the problem. And that's why stents do not prevent heart attack (unless the stent is implanted in the midst of heart attack, when the rupturing plaque declares itself.) Of course, when no plaque is in the midst of rupturing, as with Burt, there's no way to predict which plaque will do so in future. Since only one plaque was stented, there is a 7 out of 8 chance (87.5%) that the wrong plaque was chosen. And that's assuming that there aren't plaques not detected by catheterization angiogram; there commonly are. The odds that the right plaque was chosen would be even lower.

In other words, stenting one blockage that is slightly more "severely blocked" in the hopes of preventing heart attack is folly. If it's not resulting in symptoms and blood flow is not clearly reduced, a stent can not be used to prevent plaque rupture. A stent is not a device to be used prophylactically. It is especially silly when an approach like ours is followed, since plague progession is a stoppable process.

Note: This issue is distinct from the one in which symptoms and/or an abnormal stress test show clearly reduced blood flow and flow is restored by implantation of a stent. While some controversies exist here, as well, a stent implanted under these circumstances may indeed provide some benefit.

How will you know your score dropped?

This issue came up twice this week.

Bill is a busy accountant. Two years ago, just after the tumult of the 2005 tax season was over, he got a CT heart scan. His score: 398. At age 53, this was a significant score. His internist did the usual: prescribed a statin (Zocor), told him to cut the fat in his diet, and be sure to exercise. (Yawn.)

Since then, Bill quit preparing tax returns and migrated to a less harried job in corporate accounting. It took two years since his heart scan for Bill to start thinking that perhaps his doctor's advice wasn't enough. If it was, he realized, everyone on a statin drug who made these minimal lifestyle changes would be cured of heart attack risk. Clearly not the case.

So Bill enrolled in the Track Your Plaque program. Our first step: Get another heart scan.

Bill was surprised. "Why another scan? I already had one!"

I explained to Bill that atherosclerotic plaque is like money: it grows in percentages, just like money in a bank account or in a mutual fund. If, for instance, you deposit $500 in a mutual fund and it yields 5% return, then after one year you will have $550. One year later, you will have 5% x $550, or $605. Another year: $665. In other words, growth is not 10% of the original amount you deposited. Growth is compounded, year over year. That's why money, when compounded, can grow so quickly.

Atherosclerotic plaque and your CT heart scan score do the same thing: they grow by a percentage of the current plaque quantity. In fact, we use the compound interest equation to calculate the annualized rate of plaque growth. But plaque grows at the extraordinary rate of 30% per year, on average. Imagine that was the rate of return on your money. You'd be the richest man or woman on earth.

Back to Bill. Now Bill, in his defense, was on a statin drug and did make modest efforts towards a (mis-guided) low-fat diet and walking four days per week. If, on a second CT heart scan, his score was:

398--No change. That's a success, since the expected rate of increase of 30% has been stopped. However, on his current program, this is highly unlikely. (I've seen it happen just once ever out of about 2000 people.)

250--Pop the cork on your champagne, because Bill needs to celebrate. He has substantially reversed his plaque. Highly unlikely on the current effort.

525 --The score is higher by 30%, so it has slowed, but it surely hasn't stopped. This is the most typical result on the sort of program Bill is following.

The message: Don't delay after your first heart scan score. It plaque grows like money with a huge return, there's no time like the present to take the steps to regain control.

Firefighters Face Added Risk of Fatal Heart Attack

Firefighters are twice as likely to die from a heart attack in the line of duty than are policemen, and three times more likely than EMTs.

That's among the headlines run today because of a report in the New England Journal of Medicine documenting a dramatically higher risk for heart attack for fire fighters putting out fires. The above headline is from an excellent report run on NPR radio. You can listen to the webcast at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9047656.

The story sparked comments from experts insisting that all fire fighters should have physicals, should be in better physical condition, should be covered by health insurance (the NPR report said that 1 out of 4 fire fighters lack health insurance). Judging from the indisputable risk firefighters encounter, these are all good ideas.

But if you've been following my blog or the Track Your Plaque program, you know that physicals alone are hopeless exercises for identifying hidden heart disease. Among the solutions: identify whether or not heart disease is present in the first place--do a CT heart scan.

In fact, several local fire companies in my area have done just that: insisting that all firefighters undergo a heart scan. When groups of people like firefighters arrange for heart scans, they gain the advantage of doing so en masse, thereby allowing many scan centers to offer a dramatically reduced price to the city, town, or village that is paying for them. I've even seen many firefighters scanned at no cost.

It would also help to have health insurance, be physically fit, and have a stress test (an exception to my view that stress tests are also useless to screen asymptomatic people for heart disease). But a CT heart scan would settle the question quickly, easily, undeniably, and inexpensively.

Prophylactic bypass surgery?

This question comes up around once a week:

My CT heart scan score is ____. Wouldn't I be better off just getting a bypass (or stent, etc.) and getting it over with? If I know that heart attack is in my future, why not just get it over with?

The most recent source of this question was the wife of a patient. Jack had a heart scan score of 92 in 2005. He made very little effort to correct his causes, permitting pre-diabetic patterns to persist, failed to correct vitamin D, etc. and a repeat heart scan score showed a dramatic rise to 264.

Jack's wife asked whether he should just have a bypass.

There are several problems with this line of reasoning:

1) Bypass surgery does not reduce the long term risk for heart attack.

2) The risk of bypass surgery often outweighs the risk of an asymptomatic heart scan score.

3) Bypass surgery is a temporary "fix," a fancy Band Aid for a disease that progresses after the procedure. One bypass typically prompts another, and another...

4) Bypassing arteries that have vigorous blood flow often causes the bypass graft to not "take" and close within the first few days.


Thankfully, nobody in his right mind has proposed that we perform prophylactic bypass operations.

Of course, hospitals and surgeons would jump at the chance to perform procedures in anybody with some threshhold heart scan score. It would double or triple their business overnight. At $70,000 or more per procedure, they would dance in glee. Of course, you and I would pay for their new burst of wealth by a sharp increase in our health insurance premiums. Not only that, the people who underwent the procedure would not benefit.

Lipitor 80 mg

I'm seeing more and more people taking 80 mg of Lipitor per day. For the most part, these are people who come in for another opinion after a stent or heart attack and are prescribed the drug during their hospitalization.

This practice is based on the results of the PROVE IT-TIMI 22 (PRavastatin Or atorVastatin Evaluation and Infection Therapy-Thrombolysis In Myocardial Infarction) trial, and the Reversal of Atherosclerosis with Aggressive Lipid Lowering (REVERSAL) trial, both reported in 2005. In the PROVE IT Trial, 4,000 people experiencing heart attacks were treated with Lipitor (atorvastatin), 80 mg, or Pravachol (pravastatin), 40 mg. There was a reduction in events like recurrent heart attack from 13.1% in the Pravachol group to 9.6% in the Lipitor group. In the REVERSAL Trial, the Lipitor group also showed no plaque growth compared to the Pravachol group, which did progress, with disease tracked by intracoronary ultrasound.

I believe that many of my colleagues took the bait. In a half-hearted effort to reduce events and trend towards better coronary plaque control, writing a prescription for 80 mg rather than a lower dose has become increasingly popular.

Some problems: Despite the favorable tolerance to high dose Lipitor in these trials, I don't know anybody who can tolerate 80 mg per day for more than a few months in real life. In my experience, people inevitably end up with intolerable muscle aches.

Also, I believe it is folly to believe that we can regress coronary plaque on a broad scale by just using one drug that addresses only a single cause (i.e., LDL cholesterol). Yes, drug companies would argue that the statin drugs are so wonderful because of their so-called "pleiotropic", or non-lipid, effects like reducing inflammation. I have seen regression of plaque once using Lipitor alone. We struggle to reduce coronary plaque using a multi-faceted approach. It is highly unlikely that Lipitor alone at a 80 mg dose will be sufficient in most people to regress plaque. How about lipoprotein(a)? Or vitamin D deficiency? Lipitor has no effect on these patterns and people do not regress just by taking statin agents.

Orlistat for weight loss

In early February, the FDA approved orlistat, formerly known as prescription Xenical, for over-the-counter sale. Orlistat is a blocker of fat absorption.

The new OTC version will be called "Alli" (pronounced like "ally") and will come at a dose of 60 mg to be taken three times a day with meals. Prescription Xenical came as a 120 mg tablet. However, the company claims that the reduced dose sacrifices only 5% in reduced fat absorption, dropping from 30% with Xenical to 25% with Alli. It will cost in the neighborhood of $1 to $2 per day, or $30-60 per month, far less expensive than the $110-150 for the prescription form.

Does it work? Is it worth the money? Clinical trials document around 5-10 lbs lost over a 3 to 6 month period, 50% greater than using diet and exercise alone.

Our experience is that it works, though inconsistently. Results depend heavily on how reliant you are on fat calories. If you were to follow a low-fat diet while on the drug, you likely will lose little or no weight, since there's little fat absorption to block. However, I have witnessed more substantial weight loss of 10-20 lbs. in people who follow a higher fat intake in their diet, e.g., a traditional American diet. However, these people gain the weight back immediately because they've made no effort to modify food choices.

It is messy. Even though the clinical trials claims modest inconvenient effects like gas and greasy stools, I have found that it is, without fail, a very annoying product that results in crampiness and frequent messy stools in nearly everybody.

The company has created a glitzy website that you can view at www.myalli.com and promises to provide a personalized program and support for registrants when it is up and running by summer 2007.
I think that's a good idea, since the drug itself is no more than a temporary fix unless it's combined with long-term diet changes. However, the website, I believe, oversells the value of the drug with a drug company's usual over-the-top hints and innuendoes without actually coming out with straight pitches of the truth.

Beware of the vitamin D-blocking effect of Orlistat. The period of time you take it may be a time to resort to some modest sun exposure (10-15 minutes; be careful not to burn), rather than than oil-based vitamin D capsules, in order to avoid the inevitable vitamin D plunge in blood level.

I am not a fan of orlistat, having seen it tried many times with minimal success. However, it is another option for those who are really struggling. Personally, I would try fasting or some of the other strategies we've detailed on the www.cureality.com website before I resorted to orlistat.
The battle for asymptomatic disease

The battle for asymptomatic disease

The heart disease revenue pie is shrinking. So is the "serving size" being shared by competing hospitals.

In other words, as more hospitals open heart programs, there is more competition for the same heart patient. Throw into the mix the drop in "acute" presentations of disease, probably due to the now widespread prescribing of statin drugs. When I first started cardiology practice 15 years ago, for instance, days and nights spent taking care of heart attacks coming through the emergency room was a common event. It still happens, but far less frequently. (I don't mean to suggest that the actual prevalence of coronary heart disease has decreased, just the acute, catastrophic version of it.)

Throw into this mix the results of the COURAGE Trial that has put a damper on the value of stents and angioplasty vs. "optimal" medical therapy in people with stable anginal symptoms, since there was little advantage of procedures. Though it has not stopped the practice, it has reduced the enthusiasm for procedures. Though data are hard to come by, I've heard talk of 10% or greater drops in total procedural volume over the past year.

It's not uncommon for hospitals to have overbuilt heart facilities in anticipation of continued growth of this--until recently--growth industry called heart disease. However, factors are converging that may provide a new profit opportunity for hospitals.

One such opportunity is CT coronary angiography. The usual scenario: Man or woman without symptoms is persuaded somehow--an ad, primary care physician, next door neighbor with a scary event, Dr. Mehmet Oz gushing about this sexy new technology on yet another Oprah episode--to undergo a CT coronary angiogram. A "severe" blockage is found, despite the lack of symptoms, and voila! A stent patient or bypass patient is created out of nothing! Do this repeatedly and systematically, and a hospital can regain its former high-procedural volume glory.

Heart scans, though I believe deeply in them and they are the basis for the Track Your Plaque prevention and reversal program, can also be used and abused this way. Asymptomatic person has a score 150. Concerned, they go to their physician who orders a nuclear stress test. An "inferior perfusion defect" is seen, presumably representing poor flow through the right coronary artery (but often just means that the diaphragm overlaps the heart muscle and yields this apparition, a "false positive" or misleading result). "But--wink--we've got to find out if there's a severe blockage, don't we? You don't want to end up in an early grave!"

Thus, the battle for new patients with asymptomatic disease is getting underway in earnest. The scramble for cardiologists to learn how to use CT coronary angiograms is proceeding at breakneck speed, with new training courses being offered nationwide several times and places every month. CT coronary angiography is a useful test, but it is also subject to enormous abuse. It also provides the ticket for the unscrupulous physician and the revenue-hungry hospital eager to expand its patient volume.

Many people believe that this cannot happen commonly in 2007, given scrutiny of practices, litigiousness, and the expectation of a moral sense in medicine. However, I've witnessed such incidents several times this month alone. If you need graphic proof of just how far this can go before action is taken, read Coronary, Stephen Klaidman's chilling tale of a cardiologist and cardiothoracic surgeon in small-town northern California who built an enormous heart center based on fabricated heart disease diagnoses. You'll also find their story in Shannon Brownlee's recently released Overtreated: Why Too Much Medicine Is Making Us Sicker and Poorer.





Of course, the Track Your Plaque program is meant principally for people without symptoms, also. But we are advocating that asymptomatic disease is a reason for prevention, not procedures. There's a difference.

By the way, the two practitioners who engineered the escapade detailed in these books, cardiologist Chae Hyun Moon and cardiac surgeon Fidel Realyvasquez, walked away with a monetary fine and suspension of their California medical licenses. It is likely that many people died because of their abusive practices, but the state struggled to make a sufficiently persuasive case for reasons that I still don't understand.

Comments (10) -

  • G

    11/2/2007 6:36:00 AM |

    Poor Oprah, she's on the yellow brick road and doesn't even know it! I hope your results validating CT scans and dramatic primary CAD reduction bring on a revolution. It could not be soon enough. Personally, I find it so hard to teach my diabetes patients about wheat-elimination with the goal to improve their diabetes, reduce insulin doses and lose weight. (Not to mention, of course, other benefits like reducing early death -- esp the silent fatal heart attack kind) It's like trying to treat an obese child -- you look at the parents -- then realize you need to treat the parents first. To save lives from heart disease (which is increased five-fold in people with diabetes), I think the whole Western society needs to be educated and exposed to the TYP program!  i greatly think Oprah needs your help (at least get her out of the hands of M&M, you know, that sugar-coated pair Mehmet and Mike)  *ha haaa haa*  What a great help she would be if she was also convinced, and moved the TYP plan to the forefront?  PBS is good, but n-o-t-h-i-n-g is as good as Oprah ;)

    Your writings are mandatory reading for all my patients! Keep up the strong work!

  • Dr. Davis

    11/2/2007 10:41:00 AM |

    Thanks, G.

    Love your analogy of the obese and child and parents.

    I agree. It's a long uphill climb and one that runs against the winds of what the hospitals and powers that be tell us. Imagine how slow the climb would be without the information disseminating powers of the internet!

  • G

    11/2/2007 11:17:00 PM |

    Dr. D

    Thank God for the powers of the Internet!  I was researching estrogen (for a talk at a pharmacy school I teach at) and came across your blog under Sue Shellenbergers Wallstreet J article in March. What a fluke!! I went through all the archives almost as fast as I was hooked and addicted to watching Lord of the Rings.  You are undoubtedly the BEST health resource that I have come across -- including primary literature and cardiolgy texts.  I love your ex-interventionalist rhetoric and rants. You approach the whole body including mental health (LOVE the 'be happy' blog!) and emphasize heart prudent OPTIMAL nutrition.  Because I've lived it and I've seen health improvements with the basic low carb TYP rx on my DM patients (you know the 1-2% that actually aren't nonadherent), I know with 200% certainty IT works. Your explanations and references are always great in illustrating who they work for the heart and vasculature.

    I have faith that you will demonstrate compelling outcomes and data on how all these components work together (D replacement, nuts, vegetarianism, low GI foods, oat bran, fish oil, etc).  Without a doubht that seminal cardiology publication when it finally hits the stands will change e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. (at least it will stir the establishment up a bit *what entertainment value THAT will have!!!* the suspense...)

    OK, i know you don't do individual consults, but I have a patient that I need help on...  his cardiologists have given up -- he's had multiple surgical interventions (s/p stents about 1-2 mos ago). I've implored him to read and study the TYP book and blog (he better be reading this).  Diffuse CAD still cause DOE and SOB. Within DAYS after the last stents were put in, the symptoms returned again. (drug-coated no less *YECK*)  He's doing the whole aggressive medical management thing (with me). he's eliminating all refined processed carbs (he misses his biscotti), we've added B3 (still titrating), D3 4000 Iu/d (baseline=37 ng/ml) and 3400mg EPA+DHA, oat bran and raw nuts. he's on Vytorin 10/80 for the heck of it. I hope to obtain 60/60/60/60 in 3-6mos. his a1c is almost < 6.5% (from 8.5%).

    My question for you is -- will he ever get off of the short or long acting nitrates? (at this point it's not apparently helping anyway) will the DOE always be there?!  what dramatic reversal in CAD have you seen?  he's a fit avid soccer player, but can't play at all right now.

    When you use Slo-niacin, can you get them to therapeutic doses faster? he's on short acting right now.  I am so grateful for your generosity in sharing your compelling and honest insights. You are totally making a difference...  

    Thank you in advance for your feedback.  Take care! G

  • Dr. Davis

    11/3/2007 1:24:00 AM |

    Hi, G--

    Thank you kindly!

    Interestingly, simply articulating the concept or philosophy of obtaining reversal, of at least setting that as a goal, can truly turn someone's view of themselves and their disease completely around.

    Some thoughts for the patient you discuss:

    1) Time is crucial. It may simply require several months.

    2) Consider using therapeutic fasting for the fastest means to resolution of symptoms. There is a report on this approach on the www.trackyourplaque.com website, or see Joel Fuhrman's book,
    Fasting and Eating for Health. (Ignore the low-fat eating comments in the book, however.)

    3) Consider l-arginine to accelerate anti-inflammatory and endothelial-normalizing effects.

    4) Unfortunately, I never use immediate release niacin, but I imagine that a 500 mg increase every two weeks could be tried, similar to the accelerated course we sometimes use with SloNiacin or Niaspan.

    5) Consider doxycycline for its matrix metalloproteinase-suppressing activity. See the associated report on the website, also.

    Nitrates in my view are just Band Aids that provide little genuine therapeutic benefit beyond temporary symptom relief.

  • G

    11/3/2007 4:17:00 AM |

    No matter what the results are, I'm eternally grateful (and he will be too). I'm going to approach his doc on Monday... THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH! G

  • Anonymous

    11/3/2007 1:38:00 PM |

    Boy G you are the first dietitian I know who promos low carb for diabetes, goodonya, do you read Dr Bernsteins Diabetic Solution. His book and webcasts and TYP are my bibles.

    Is Oprah's weight gain due to following Dr Oz.

    Here;s a story for you that is scary for a pateint with undiagnsoed chest pain:

    I had undiagnosed chest pain for several months, quit Actos ( it started around time I went on Actos)but it remained after quitting for 6 weeks actually, and they did a stress test and said nada but I know from your book I need another calcium score done so am pushing for that.

    In the meantime this Dr who is new to town told me I must stay on Actos no matter what the side effects are and sometimes you just have to take risks to stay on drugs!!  

    I actually only asked for Actos to try get my A1C to a 4.5 from a 5.4 as Dr Bernstein recommends that diabetics have the same rights to normal bg as non diabetics, so then I didn't see him again and saw his wife. They are both new Dr from South Africa.

    She put me on nitro spray, didn't even see me, called me out of the blue and said maybe I should use it,would aid in her diagnosis if it worked!! yet they won't give me a repeat Rx for metphormin which I have been on for 15 yr (over the phone)!!!!

    I didn't want to use it but the pain scares me as it is harsh, bends me over and I live out of town and fear if I am having a MI I am at higher risk, so the next time  I had the chest pain, I tried the nitro once and my bp dropped to 84/58 and I almost went into shock, so I dumped her and have a new young doc who tries to practise cardiology along with her caseload.

    My Dr of 21 yr moved so its been awful living rural in small town and not enough Dr, she seems intelligent, listens and I think I can bend her ear towards TYP.

    I am going to push for advanced lipid profile again,and another EBCT, my pain is lessening as my high stress job finished, I can't believe that crippling pain was due to stress and fear the Actos set me up for something.

    I am the therapist that got the referrals for those appearing in emerg thinking they are having a heart attack and they wern't, it was anxiety induced. I tried all the relaxation techniques I taught and it didn't help my chest pain so I was scared so used the nitro much against my better judgment and won't ever again.


    The stress test showed nothing wrong, good recovery, the ecg showed no heart attack.

    I had a Pulse Wave analysis test done at a conference I went to on menopause. This conference follows the programs of Dr John Lee who also thought outside the box like you do Dr D and he had good results and not the side effects from hormone trtment like oral drugs has.

    He suggests bio identical creams only so if you search out Jackie Harvey and the workshops she does called Heart to Heart for women and the medical profession, you will learn about menopause help that is also non traditional.

    This new doc I found supports her ideas, will support the saliva test and prescribe bio identical progesterone cream if your test suggests you need it as you have estrogen dominance, and it does seem to help.

    Tell me if you think this Pulse wave analysis is right on, they recommend a liquid L arginine as say it absorbs better but boy is it pricey.

    BTW I don't have a goggle acct and don't really know how to set one up so come under anonymous so it makes a few of us, sorry.


    Thank you for this siteSmile

  • Dr. Davis

    11/3/2007 7:06:00 PM |

    Reluctantly Anonymous via Google--

    Actually, what you are describing--chest pains around the menopausal years with some gauge of "endothelial dysfunction," i.e., abnormal coronary artery constriction--is how I first came to appreciate the power of l-arginine about 15 years ago.

    Back then, research from the NIH uncovered a poorly-named entity in perimenopausal women called "microvascular angina." It is wonderfully responsive to l-arginine. That's the situation in which I also learned that arginine only works when taken on an empty stomach.

  • gc

    11/3/2007 11:42:00 PM |

    Wow thank you for that info, Smile
    RA

  • Anonymous

    11/11/2007 2:31:00 AM |

    Thank you Dr. Davis for posting about the book "Coronary," which I ordered after reading about it on your website.

    It is one of the most chilling books I have read.  One would like to think that the unnecessary angioplasties and heart bypasses that the book described were anomalies, limited to two amoral out-of-control doctors in a small Northern California town.  But you write that you have seen it in your city in the Midwest.

    It makes me cynical about the entire medical profession.  By the way, I have seen the same amoral greediness from many so-called "alternative medicine" doctors in Los Angeles.  It may not be on the same scale as Drs. Moon and Realyvasquez, since these so-called anti-aging gurus are only pushing unnecessary supplements (which they sell at great markup in their offices) and unnecessary blood work and saliva tests (I have no doubt whatsoever that they are getting illegal kickbacks from the labs), not surgery and invasive procedures.  I guess it's the difference between a little shoplifting and armed bank robbery, but still it does make one cynical about the whole medical profession.

    Thank goodness for your blog, which at least helps laypeople have a fighting chance.

  • Dr. Davis

    11/11/2007 2:51:00 AM |

    I like your analogy: shoplifting vs. armed bank robbery.

    Legislating against such excesses is an impossible task. In my view, the solution is education.

    An informed, educated consumer is one who can make his/her own choice, whether it's to pursue acupuncture, chiropractic, take hawthorne, undergo coronary angioplasty, or some other path.

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