Stents, defibrillators, and other profit-making opportunities

As a practicing cardiologst, every day I receive a dozen or more magazines or newspapers targeting practicing physicians, not to mention the hundreds of letters, postcards, invitations to "talks", etc. that I receive. All of these materials share one common goal: To get the practicing cardiologist/physician to insert more of a manufacturer's stents, defibrillators, prescribe more of their drugs, etc.

This is a highly effective and profitable area. Pfizer's Lipitor, for instance, generated $12.2 billion just last year alone. This kind of money will fund an extraordinary amount of marketing.

I'm on the www.heart.org mailing list, a website for cardiologists. I'd estimate that 90% or more of their content is device-related: discussions of situations in which to insert stents, the expanding world of implantable devices, the ups and downs of various drugs. Rarely are discussions of healthy lifestyles, exercise, nutritional supplements, part of the dialogue.

How can you protect yourself from the brainwashed physician, flooded with visions of all the devices he can put in you, all the drugs that can "cure" your disease? Simple: information. Be better informed. Ask pointed questions. The idiotic lay press tells you to ask a doctor about his education. That's not generally the problem. Some of the best educated doc's I know are also the most flagrantly guilty of profiteering medicine.

Ask your doctor about his/her philosphy about the use of medications, devices, etc. If their word is God, take it or leave it, run the other way.

Will radiation kill you?

Several people have asked me lately if radiation is truly dangerous. These conversations were sparked by an editorial comment made on a column I wrote for Life Extension Magazine's April, 2006 issue on "Three ways to detect hidden heart disease".

Among the methods that were discussed in this piece was, of course, CT heart scanning. Anyone who is involved with CT heart scans Quickly recognizes the spectacular power of this test to uncover hidden, unsuspected heart disease, literally within seconds. In 2006, there's really nothing like it for the every day person to have hidden heart disease detected and precisely quantified.

Yet, the "rebuttal" to my article claimed that the broad use of heart scans was only my personal view and that, in truth, radiation kills people.

NONSENSE! If an ovarian cancer is discovered by a CT scan of the abdomen, is that unwise use of radiation? If pneumonia or lung cancer is discovered on a chest x-ray with minimal radiation exposure, have we performed a disservice. Of course not. In fact, these are often lifesaving applications of radiation.

Can radiation be used unwisely with excessive exposure? Of course. The 64 slice CT angiograms are just an example of this. Dr. Mehmet Oz announced on Oprah recently that this was a test to be used for broad screening of women for heart disease. This is wrong. The radiation required for a full 64 slice CT angiogram test is truly excessive for a screening application. You wouln't want to get breast cancer from your mammogram, would you? The radiation from a 64-slice CT angiogram is similar to that of a heart catheterization in the hospital--too much for screening. This is not to be confused with a CT heart scan for a calcium score performed on a 64 slice device. I think this can be performed with acceptable radiation exposure.

Think about what would happen, for instance, if you had your heart disease undetected, had a heart attack, and went to the hospital? During your hospitalization, you'd likely get five chest x-rays, a heart catheterization, perhaps one or more nuclear imaging tests, maybe even a full CT scan (with far more radiation than a screening heart scan). The amount of radiation of a heart scan is trivial compared to what you obtain in a hospital.

So take it all in perspective. The low level of radiation required for a simple heart scan (not an angiogram) does not by itself substantially add to your lifetime risk of radiation exposure. It may, in fact, save your life or reduce your life long exposure to radiation.

Are you using bogus supplements?

I consider nutritional supplements an important, many times a critical,part of a coronary plaque control program.

But use the wrong brand or use it in the wrong way, and you can obtain no benefit. Occasionally, you can even suffer adverse effects.

Take coenzyme Q10, for instance. (Track Your Plaque Members: A full, in-depth Special Report on coenzyme Q10 will be on the website in the next couple of weeks.) Take the wrong brand to minimize the likelihood of statin-related muscle aches, and you may find taking Lipitor, Zocor, Crestor, etc. intolerable or impossible. However, take a 100 mg preparation from a trusted manufacturer in an oil-based capsule, and you are far more likely to avoid the inevitable muscle aches. (Though, of course, consult with your doctor, for all it's worth, if you develop muscle aches on any of these prescription agents.)

Unfortunately, you and I often don't truly know for a fact if a bottle from the shelf of a health food store or drugstore is accurately labeled, pure, free of contaminants, and efficacious.

One really great service for people serious about supplements is the www.consumerlab.com website. They are a membership website (with dues very reasonable) started by a physician interested in ensuring supplement quality. Consumer Lab tests nutritional supplements to determine whether it 1) contains what the label claims, and 2) is free of contamination. (I have no reason to pitch this or any other site; it's just a great service.) They recently found a supplement with Dr. Andrew Weil's name on it to have excess quantities of lead!

What Consumer Lab does not do is determine efficacy. In other words, they do a responsible job of reporting on what clinical studies have been performed to support the use of a specific supplement. However, true claims of efficacy of supplement X to treat symptom or disease Y can only come with FDA approval. Supplements rarely will be put through the financial rigors of this process.

If you're not a serious supplement user, but just need a reliable source, we've had good experiences with:

--GNC--the national chain
--Vitamin Shoppe--also a national chain
--www.lifeextension.com or www.lef.org--A great and low-priced source, but they do charge a $75 annual membership that comes with a subscription to their magazine, Life Extension (which I frequently write for) and several free supplements that you may or may not need. Again, I'm not pitching them; they are simply a good source.
--Solgar--a major manufacturer
--Vitamin World
--Nature's Bounty
--Sundown

There are many others, as well. Unfortunately, it's only the occasional manufacturer or distributor that permits unnacceptable contamination with lead or other poisons, or inaccurately labels their supplement (e.g., contains 1000 mg of glucosamine when it really contains 200 mg). I have not come across any manufacturer/distributor who has systemtically marketed uniformly bad products.

It really helps to have someone to lean on

Among my patients are several husband and wife teams, both of whom have heart disease by some measure. Several couples, for instance, consist of a huband who's received a stent, survived a heart attack, or has some other scar of the conventional approach. The wives generally have a substantial heart scan score in the several hundred range.

There are a few couples for which the roles are reversed: wife with bypass, heart attack, etc. and husband with a substantial quantity of coronary plaque by CT heart scan.

From them all, however, I've learned the power of teamwork. When both wife and husband (or even "significant other") are committed to the effort of controlling or reversing heart disease risk, the likelihood of success is magnified many-fold. Everything is easier: shopping for and choosing foods, incorporating supplements in the budget, taking vacations with a healthy focus, following through and sticking with your program.

Several of the couples have succeeded in obtaining regression of plaque for both man and woman. Both have reduced their heart scan scores and, as a result, dramatically reduced the potential for future heart attack and procedures.

Unfortunately, I will also see the opposite situation: One spouse committed to the program but the other indifferent. They may say such things as "You can't control what happens in the future." Or, "There's no way you can get rid of risk for heart disease. My doctor says it's hereditary." Or, "I've eaten this way since I was a kid. I'm not changing now for you or for anybody else."

Such negative commentary can't help but erode your commitment to health. Most of us recognize these sorts of comments as self-fulfulling and self-defeating.

What should you do if you have an unsupportive partner? Not easy. But it really can help to seek out a supportive partner, whether it's a friend, relative, or other significant person in your life. Of course, not everybody can find such a person. Perhaps that's another way our program can help.

I'd like to hear from anyone who does obtain substantial support of someone close, or if you are struggling to do so.

Five foods that can booby trap your heart disease prevention program

There are several foods that commonly come up on people's lists of habitual foods that are truly undesirable for a heart disease prevention program. Curiously, people choose these foods because of the mis-perception that they are healthy. My patients are often shocked when I tell them that they are not healthy and are, in fact, detrimental to their program.

I'm not talking about foods that are obviously unhealthy. You know these: fried foods, greasy cheeseburgers, French fries, bacon, sausage, etc. Nearly everyone knows that the high saturated fat content, low fiber, and low nutritional value of these foods are behind heart disease, hypertension, and a variety of cancers.

I'm talking about foods that people say they eat because they view them as healthy--but they're not.

Here's the list:

1) Low-fat or non-fat salad dressings--Virtually all brands we've examined have high-fructose corn syrup as one the main ingredients. What does high fructose corn syrup do? Triggers sugar cravings, makes your triglycerides skyrocket (causing formation of abnormal lipoproteins like small LDL), and causes diabetes. The average American now ingests nearly 80 lbs of this evil sweetener per year. You're far better off with olive, canol, grapeseed, or flaxseed based salad dressings.

2) Breakfast cereals--If you've been following these discussions, you know that the majority of breakfast cereals are sugar. They may not actually contain sugar, but they contain ingredients that are converted to sugar in your body. They may be cleverly disguised as healthy--Raisin Bran, Shredded Wheat, etc.

3) Pretzels--"A low-fat snack". That's right. A low-fat snack that raises blood sugar like eating table sugar from the bowl.

4) Margarine--Forget this silly argument about which is worse, butter or margarine. Which is worse, strychnine or lead? Both are poisons to the human body. Who cares which is worse? Fortunately, there are now healthy "margarines" like Smart Balance and Benecol that lack the saturated fat or hydrogenated fat of either.

4) Bananas--Bananas are not all that intrinsically unhealthy. The problem is that people will say to me, "Oh sure, I eat fruit. Two bananas a day." What I hear is "I don't really eat fruit with high nutrient value, fiber, and reduced sugar release. I reach for only bananas which yield extreme sugar rises in my blood and are low fiber." Aren't they high in potassium? Yes, but there are better sources. Cut back if you are a banana freak.


Why the mis-perceptions? A holdover from the low-fat diet days and marketing from food manufacturers are the principal reasons. Of course, foods are meant to be enjoyed, but be informed about it. Choose foods for the right reasons, not because of some cleverly-crafted marketing campaign.

Breakfast of champions?

I spend time every day educating or reminding patients that breakfast cereals are not health foods.

I see jaws drop in shock when I tell them that, in my opinion and despite the marketing claims, Cheerios, Raisin Bran, Shredded Wheat, and the like do not yield health benefits. In fact, they do the the opposite: dramatically raise blood sugar and trigger an adverse cascade of events that eventually leads to diabetes and heart disease.

Why the health claims in advertising? Because these products contain insoluble fiber, the sort that makes your bowels regular. Yes, your bowels are important to health, too. But the benefits end there.

Breakfast cereals are a highly refined, processed food that are not good for your plaque control program. What they are is a highly profitable, multi-billion dollar business, deeply entrenched in American culture ("They'rrrre grrrrrreat!"--Tony the Tiger; "There's a whole scoop of raisins in every box of Post Raisin Bran!" Bet you remember them all.)

I find it particularly upsetting when I see the stamp of approval from the American Heart Association on some products. Gee, if the Heart Association says it's good for you, it must be true! Don't you believe it. The American Heart Association relies on corporate donations, just like any other charity.

If you must eat breakfast cereals, refer to www.glycemicindex.com for a full database of glycemic indexes. You can look up a specific product and it will list its glycemic index, or sugar-releasing properties. You should try to keep glycemic index of the foods you choose below 50.

For a revealing discussion of the influence of food marketers on our perceptions of food, see Track Your Plaque nutrition expert, Gay Riley's discussion The Marketing of Food and Diets in America at her website, www.netnutritionist.com.

In heart disease prevention, shoot for perfection

It really struck me today that it's the people who've chosen to compromise their prevention program who end up with trouble--heart procedures, heart attack, even heart failure.

Take Bob, for example. Bob is 73 years old and had a bypass operation in 2000. The procedure went well and Bob enjoyed 6 years of seemingly trouble-free life. Bob had a seriously low HDL cholesterol for which he as taken a modest dose of niacin, but was unwilling to do much more. His HDL cholesterol was thererefore "stalled" at around 40 mg. (We aim for 60 mg or greater.) We talked repeatedly about the options for increasing HDL but Bob was content with his results. After all, since his bypass operation, he'd felt well and could do all he wanted without physical limitation.

But Bob underwent a stress test for surveillance purposes (which we routinely do 5 or more years after bypass surgery). The test was markedly abnormal with two major areas of poor blood flow to his heart (signalling potential heart attack in future). Bob ended up getting 5 stents to salvage two bypass grafts, both of which showed signs of substantial degeneration.

I've seen this scenario repeatedly: A person is unwilling to go the extra mile to obtain perfection in lipid/lipoprotein patterns, lifestyle changes, and taking the basic, required supplements. Compromises eventually catch up to you in the form of another heart attack, more procedures, heart failure, physical disability, even death.

The message: Don't draw compromises in heart disease prevention. Coronary plaque is a chronic process. It will take advantage of you if you ever let your guard down.

The epidemic of small LDL

Of the patients I saw in my office yesterday, virtually EVERYONE had small LDL.

Small LDL is emerging as an extraordinarily prevalent lipoprotein pattern that drives coronary plaque growth. Previous estimates have put small LDL as affecting only 20-30% of people with coronary disease. However, in my experience in the last few years, I would estimate that greater than 80% of people with measurable coronary plaque have small LDL.

If you have a heart scan score >zero, chances are you have it, too.

I call small LDL a "modern" disease because it has skyrocketed in prevalence recently because of the great surge in inactivity in Americans.

When's the last time you walked to the grocery store and back, lugging two bags of groceries? How many years has it been since you've push-mowed your lawn? All the small conveniences of life have permeated further and further into our activities. Most of us spend the great majority of our day right where you are now--on your duff.

On the bright side, small LDL in most people is reducable by simply getting up and going. But the old teaching of 30 minutes of activity per day is now outdated. This was true when the other hours of your life included physical activities, like housework or a moderately active job. However, if the other 23 1/2 hours of your day are sedentary, then 30 minutes a day won't do it. An hour or more of activity, whether exercise or physical labor of some variety will get you better small LDL-suppressing results.

For most people with small LDL, fish oil and niacin are also necessary to fully suppress small LDL to the Track Your Plaque goal of <10 mg/dl.

A great discussion on vitamin D

If you need better convincing that vitamin D is among the most underappreciated but crucial vitamins for health, see Russell Martin's review of vitamin D and its role in cancer prevention. You'll find it in March, 2006 Life Extension Magazine or their www.LEF.org website at:

http://search.lef.org/cgi-src-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=0&page_id=1308&query=vitamin%20d&hiword=VITAM%20VITAMER%20VITAMERS%20VITAMI%20VITAMINA%20VITAMINAS%20VITAMINC%20VITAMIND%20VITAMINE%20VITAMINEN%20VITAMINES%20VITAMINIC%20VITAMINK%20VITAMINS%20d%20vitamin%20

Our preliminary experience over the past year suggests that vitamin D may be the crucial missing link in many people's plaque control program. We've had a handful of people who, despite an otherwise perfect program (LDL<60, HDL>60, etc.; vigorous exercise, healthy food selection, etc.--I mean perfect)continued to show plaque growth. The rate of growth was slower than the natural expected rate of 30% per year, but still frightening rates of 14-18% per year--until we added vitamin D. All of a sudden, we saw dramatic regression of 7-25% in 6 months to a year.

This does not mean that vitamin D all by itself regresses plaque. I believe it means that vitamin D exerts a "permissive" effect, allowing all the other treatments (fish oil, LDL reduction, HDL raising, correction of small LDL, etc.) to exert their full benefit. So please don't stop everything and just take D. This will not work. However, adding vitamin D to your program on top of the basic Track Your Plaque approach--that's the best way I know of.

MSNBC Report: We need more heart procedures!

A recent headline from MSNBC by Robert Bazell reads:

NEW YORK - Angioplasty, bypass surgery and cholesterol-lowering medications are among the many interventions that have brought a sharp decrease in heart disease deaths in recent years. But, as Dr. Sharon Hayes of the Mayo Clinic points out, there is one big problem.

“The death rates in women have not declined as much as they have in men,” she says.

The piece goes on to suggest that women are getting short-ended in the diagnosis of heart symptoms and heart attack. The solution: More testing to assess the need for procedures like bypass.

This is typical of the device and medication-dominated media consciousness: More procedures, more medication, more devices. Who's paying for advertising, after all? The money at stake is huge. But is this what you want?

Don't be swayed by media reporters with limited understanding of the real issues (at best), consciousness of who's paying for advertising (at worst). Yes, heart disese is often underestimated or misdiagnosed in women. The answer is better detection earlier in life followed by efforts to halt the process--effective, safe treatments for people's benefit, not just profit.
Thyroid perspective update

Thyroid perspective update

Since the publication of the extraordinary HUNT Study relating the entire spectrum of thyroid function and heart issues, I have been vigorously and systematically examining thyroid function in numerous patients.

While there's no news in relating flagrant low thyroid function with triggering heart disease in several forms, the cut-off between low thyroid and normal thyroid has been a matter of dispute for decades.

In the early 20th century, low thyroid function wasn't diagnosed until someone gained 40 lbs, displayed extravagant amounts of edema (water retention) in the legs and huge bags under the eyes, hair fell out in clumps, and often eventually proved fatal. At autopsy, these unfortunates also showed advanced and extensive quantities of coronary atherosclerotic plaque.

Low thyroid is usually diagnosed on the basis of the blood test, thyroid stimulating hormone, or TSH. TSH is a pituitary gland hormone responsible for stimulation of thyroid function. When thyroid function flags, the pituitary increases TSH release. Thus, a high TSH signals lower thyroid hormone levels.

The difficulty is in distinguishing normal thyroid function from low thyroid function judged by TSH levels. As the years have passed, in fact, the cut-off for "normal" TSH has drifted lower and lower.

The HUNT Study, I believe, clinches the argument: A TSH of 1.5 or lower, perhaps even 1.0 or lower, is desirable to eliminate the excess cardiovascular risk provided by an underactive thyroid, not to mention feel better: more energetic, clearer thinking, greater well-being.

Having now applied this renewed appreciation for thyroid, I have come to believe that:

--Low thyroid function, even subtle levels, are rampant and far more common than ever previously thought. In my office practice, the case could be made that several people per day are marginally or mildly hypothyroid (low in thyroid).
--Restoration of optimal thyroid levels facilitates correction of lipid measures, especially LDL cholesterol and, to a lesser degree, lipoprotein patterns dependent on the insulin axis such as triglycerides and small LDL. It's a lot happier way to correct lipids than statins.

I don't discount the value of feeling better. People who feel better--more energetic, more upbeat, clearer thinking--tend to do better in health overall. If thyroid restoration is a part of that equation, then greater attention should be paid to this facet of health on our way to optimal heart health.

Though I sometimes feel like an endocrinologist dispensing desiccated thyroid (rarely the synthetic T4), I believe that this has been a previously neglected and important part of our effort to achieve coronary plaque stabilization and reversal.

Comments (18) -

  • Jeremy

    10/10/2008 2:33:00 PM |

    I have a TSH of 2, which the doctor told me was normal. What steps can I take to get my TSH to be lower, like 1.5 or 1?

  • Anna

    10/10/2008 5:58:00 PM |

    Great post, doc!  As I've mentioned in past comments, this is a subject near and dear to my heart.

  • Anonymous

    10/10/2008 8:02:00 PM |

    Doctor,
    I applaud your attention to the low thyroid issue but also would urge you to check Free T4 and Free T3 -- I spent several years gaining weight, depressed, exhausted, and suffering numerous symptoms (including high cholesterol) but being told I needed and anti-depressant, statins, etc because my TSH was normal.  When I finally found a doctor to test the Free T3 and 4, I was found to be low in both and I need both to function well.  I can track symptoms and cholesterol rises to the T3 and T4 blood levels. Thank goodness I've found a doctor who will test and adjust when I report the need for same.

    Keep up the good work.
    S

  • Anne

    10/11/2008 9:00:00 AM |

    My TSH is 2.6. What should I say to my doctor as on the lab report that comes out as normal.

  • gunther gatherer

    10/11/2008 10:52:00 AM |

    Hi Doctor and thanks for your informative blog. I'd like to echo Jeremy's comment and ask what one can do to lower TSH to below 1.5?

    Mine is currently 3.5, considered officially normal, but I have a very difficult time losing weight and would like more energy and better sleep. My diet is very good, but I think I may be missing something with TSH so high.

    Thanks, G

  • Nancy LC

    10/11/2008 6:19:00 PM |

    My doctors were happy to leave me around a TSH of 5.  I asked for, and got, a small increase in thyroid meds and got the TSH down to 3.  Felt better, but after reading about these latest studies I decided I wanted to be at 1 or lower.  So I talked to my doctor, told him I felt like I wasn't optimal yet and asked if I could go a little higher on the meds.  He agreed.

    This latest bump is making me feel really good, like I actually WANT to move around and exercise and get things done.  

    I tried the natural thyroid meds once and felt they were too high in T3 for me, I never adapted to them.

  • Dr. B G

    10/12/2008 7:28:00 PM |

    G,

    My TSH from 1997 until 2007 were always 1.3 to 1.9.  I lost 50 lbs over the last 5 yrs (and low carb the last 2yrs) but my TSH did not 'normalize' until my vitamin D normalized.

    Normal by DR. Davis and many experts and cancer epidemiologists is 25(OH)D 60-75 ng/ml.

    Good luck. You are grain-free right? Consider casein-free too (ie Paleo diet).

    -'G' too Smile

  • Dr. B G

    10/12/2008 7:28:00 PM |

    G,

    My TSH from 1997 until 2007 were always 1.3 to 1.9.  I lost 50 lbs over the last 5 yrs (and low carb the last 2yrs) but my TSH did not 'normalize' until my vitamin D normalized.

    Normal by DR. Davis and many experts and cancer epidemiologists is 25(OH)D 60-75 ng/ml.

    Good luck. You are grain-free right? Consider casein-free too (ie Paleo diet).

    -'G' too Smile

  • Lynn M.

    10/12/2008 9:46:00 PM |

    Nancy,

    An intolerance of natural thyroid meds often indicates adrenal insufficiency.  Also, natural thyroid such as Armour needs to be dosed differently than Synthroid.  Armour should be taken in small doses spaced through the day. T3 has a short half-life of 6-7 hours (the figure varies depending on the source), so you'll get too much jolt if taking the daily dose all at once.  T4 meds like Synthroid have a half life of 6-7 weeks, so once daily dosing is fine with them.

  • Anonymous

    10/13/2008 5:40:00 AM |

    I was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's, due to elevated thyroid antibodies, yet my TSH was in the 3-3.5 range, which most doctors will state is 'normal'.

    So, it's proven very difficult to get treatment so far. I also have symptoms that match hypo, and an ultrasound that shows a mildly enlarged thyroid. I was also told that my thyroid felt 'lumpy' when it was palpated. Yet, two doctors so far won't even consider letting me try a low-dose trial of thyroid medication. The magic number for them is a TSH of 5.0 or higher.

    For those who haven't seen endocrinologists, many  tend to be... stubborn. Thyroid disease seems to be treated different than other diseases. Doctors pretty much ignore symptoms, they don't agree with a standard as to who is Hypothyroid, and who isn't, they don't use the same TSH marker to treat, and they don't even agree which blood tests to give. It's actually sort of insane.

    So for those of you with TSH levels in the high 2s or 3s, my only advice is to get your free values tested and your thyroid antibodies tested too. If they are positive, you potentially could find a doctor to treat you... eventually... maybe.  If you don't test positive for antibodies, and your free T3/T4 are normal, I think you'll have a real hard time finding a doctor to give you any thyroid meds.

  • donny

    10/13/2008 4:17:00 PM |

    I spent some time yesterday reading about vitamin a, iodine and thyroid.

    According to this http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/89/11/5441

    goiter becomes more likely in iodine deficient areas where vitamin a deficiency is also present. There also seems to be the suggestion that the goiters sometimes caused by a high, rather than a low, level of iodine intake might be guarded against by vitamin a sufficiency.

    quote "The data from the intervention indicate that VA status may also modify the response to iodine repletion. In the trial, there was a significant decrease in median TSH, Tvol, mean Tg, and goiter rate in the IS+VA group compared with the IS group. In areas of endemic goiter, the major determinant of serum Tg and Tvol is TSH stimulation of the thyroid (42, 45). Our findings suggest TSH hyperstimulation, indicated by increased TSH, Tg, and Tvol, was reduced by VA treatment.

    I've seen it stated all over the web that hypothyroid interferes with the ability of the body to convert beta carotene to vitamin a.  

    This study,

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3120391

    was in pregnant heifers, so grain of salt, but..

    They added synthetic beta carotene to these cattle's feed, and according to the abstract,

    "It is inferred from the results that beta-carotene interferes with the activity of the thyroid gland and the production of its hormones, and that the increases or decreases of the activity of this gland, caused by beta-carotene, influence the metabolism of cholesterol in the body."

    They don't mention what form the increase in cholesterol takes, but since thyroid function is described as 'interfered with' I suspect the change was not a beneficial one.

    These guys should know better, and never ever just say 'beta carotene' when what they really mean is 'synthetic beta carotene.' If these cattle had been fed green grass, their beta carotene intake would have been through the roof. I doubt this would have caused thyroid or cholesterol metabolism dysfunction. Reminds me of those studies on humans with synthetic beta carotene with not-so-good results.

  • Anna

    10/13/2008 6:27:00 PM |

    My advice to those with symptoms and a TSH over 2.0 or 2.5 (or any health issue that isn't being addressed well and helping the patient feel/function better) is to find another doctor who is more open minded about patients and health instead of settling for one way to look at things.   After all, our doctors are consultants who are supposed to work *for us* with their experience and expertise; not the other way around.  My teeth grind now when I hear someone say "my doctor won't let me...",  like the doc is a parent or boss.

    I never thought I'd become one of those "doctor-shoppers", because I always thought that was a negative, hypochondriac-sort of thing, especially for middle -aged women, the demographic I am now in (I have a new appreciation for the roots of the word "hysterical").  I can easily see how "doctor-shopping" can become a problem, but I've stopped seeing it as always a negative thing.  I pulled my exhausted, fuzzy-thinking self over that huge mental hurdle and pushed myself not to settle until I found docs who could also see me as a partner in my care, not as a subordinate in the relationship, because I saw that as the best way to achieve *all* my health goals, not just my thyroid care.  Ultimately, I think that can mean less visits to the doc over time and less tries at Rxing with a variety of meds in an attempt to manage symptoms.  For instance, nagging neck pain and stiffness on one side that persisted for many years (after a muscle injury), was diagnosed as osteoarthritis after an x-ray ordered by the doc I saw for a decade.  She said take NSAIDS and learn to bear it, part of getting older.  Great.  The next year, the new PCP osteopathic doc I saw said, want to try some PT -   often it helps.  I had 8 PT sessions (no that wasn't convenient or cheap) and initially I was unimpressed, but by the 4th session I saw real improvement, which increased until the last session.  The relief from the neck pain/stiffness has lasted several years (reccurances are usually easily dealt with by adjusting my sleep posture and resuming the PT exercises I learned).  No meds and much less pain and greatly improved mobility in my neck  or meds & bearing it - all a matter of perspective on how to treat/not treat.  

    I think most people are afraid or too weary to *really search* for an appropriate physician match, and they don't really want to take enough responsibility for understanding their needs; they'd rather just take a friends referral or be told what to do or wait until something urgent presents itself.  It's natural to crave familiarity, but that's a poor reason to stick with indifferent or adequate care or let Chance make the choice.  I know there can be other barriers, such as the expense and the difficulty scheduling around work or other obligations or even lack of local physician choice (especially in remote areas), but if there are significant health issues at stake (to treat or prevent), overcoming those barriers can really pay off in better care and reduced unproductive doc visits.  I'd say my unproductive office visits numbered 3:1 over the productive ones in the past 15 years or so - what a waste! - mostly because I stuck to the same doctor too long, one that just attributed everything I was experiencing to "getting old".  I'm not more bothered by aging than the next person, but frankly, most of her answers were cop-outs and I shouldn't have settled for lame responses for so long.

    I've seen some docs in the interim years that were definitely improvements, but I still felt I might be able to get better care within my network if I kept making inquiries.   For a brief time, we had very good PCP physician that both my husband and I liked very much, but I still saw my out of network doc for my thyroid and my PCP was ok with that.  

    But last year our PCP doc left our network and took a break from medical practice, just after my son's pediatrician suddenly passed away.  I suspect that ped-doc would have been a good candidate for TYP, btw, he lived near us and I often saw him in the grocery store with his cart full of AHA approved edible food-like substances).   So we were all left without an assigned PCP, though of course, if anything urgent came up we could see whoever was available.  And the travel to see the out of network thyroid doc was harder to do, so I started seeing an in-network endocrinologist, in the hopes that I could transition to him for all that stuff.  I had to switch to what he knew, Rxing only synthetic T4 and finally some added T3, instead of the 98/2% T4/timed release compounded natural T3 the other doctor gave me (which I liked better).

    I saw this as a good opportunity; I started looking for a new PCP for the whole family, someone in family medicine this time, also a bit closer to home than the other facility (which we chose when we were new to the area and lived closer).  I took my time, making short "get acquainted" appts with potential docs, which is allowed in my plan.  I asked a lot of questions about their approach to preventive care and how they promote good health, and especially with the health issues for our family.  

    I knew I'd probably found the right one when I saw the EBT coronary calcium score poster on the back of the door while I was waiting to meet the doc.  He said EBT CCS scans are a test worth paying out of pocket for even if insurance won't - you'll like that Dr. D!  He's familiar with BH, compounded Rx, has very good views of thyroid conditions, and tries to focus on lifestyle more than drugs and true prevention rather than just early screening and detection/treatment.  When I asked about thermography instead of mammography, he said a number of patients had asked about it and he was currently looking into it, so didn't have a recommendation yet; he was open to looking any info I could forward on thermography.  I think the persistent search will have been worth the effort, because I think we will make a good team; he's pretty close to a "Renaissance Doc", IMO.  Wish I'd known about him a long time ago, might have saved me and my family a lot of misery (rigid, unenlightened docs can forget that the loved ones can suffer when the patient isn't up to par, too).  I'd just about given up finding the right doc in our network; now I hope he doesn't bolt the system like the last one I felt great about.  

    It might take some time, effort, and expense, especially with limiting HMO networks and insurance restrictions/or lack of insurance, but the way I see it, it's really worth looking until you find better care, inside or outside your network network.   It's much easier to do this when the health care issues are more minor than when they get serious, too.  

    I don't know how all insurance plans work, but the last two plans we have had (through my husband's employer) allowed choosing a PCP at any time as many times as long as I stay within the network.  I'm told some PCPs don't bill for brief "new patient" visits (no exam), but don't quote me on that.  I'm in suburban area of a larger city, so there are literally hundreds of PCPs I can choose from within two networks (but I have to choose one or the other network, not a mix).  For too long I thought all the docs in a network would just think exactly the same, plus they all used the same lab, so that discouraged me from looking further.  Well, I was surprised to find out that wasn't necessarily true, but it took some continued and persistent digging to find the "free thinkers" and finally making a few of those "get acquainted appts" to ask questions.  That's much better than both of us being "on the spot" during an office visit for an acute health problem and learning there is a mismatch.

    "New patient" appts can quickly cover more topics than a regular exam visit, too, which is usually restricted to one health complaint or cramming in all the annual exam items.  I focussed on asking questions and learning how the doctor sees his/her role in our healthcare and where he/she did/didn't have experience and expertise, rather than debating my opinions or views that differed.  It was a much better way to narrow down my choices.  There's too much at stake to throw a dart at a name and then stick with the random result no matter what.

    Persistence is the key.  I've learned never to let my health become an auto-pilot sort of thing.

  • Anonymous

    10/16/2008 8:31:00 PM |

    TSH is only a good starting point, one absolutely has to also know their free T4 (and T3) so that a lower-normal TSH isn't masking a too low free T4 (and T3).  Combined the TSH and free T4 can identify central hypothyroidism, originating in the pituitary that comes with the same symptoms of hypothyroidism originating at the thyroid.

  • Anna

    10/18/2008 4:11:00 AM |

    Donny,

    Interesting about the Vit A and beta carotene connection to thyroid.  Before I took thyroid hormone I have very reddish-orange palms.  That went away after some time with thyroid treatment and hasn't returned.

  • Dr. B G

    10/19/2008 1:13:00 PM |

    Anna Donny,

    Those are amazing observations.

    I do think Vitamin A is important. Most supplements however have 'beta carotene' and as Donny mentioned they are probably Lurotin by BASF or some other SYNTHETIC vitamin. This un-natural vitamin did not fare well in any clinical trial.

    Natural vitamin A is crucial -- just as vitamin D is for the thyroid and every organ in the body for growth, reproduction and anti-proliferative effects.

    Cows may be entirely deficient when compared with grass fed cows. I came across one study where the beef industry made the lovely conclusion that more marbling of the meat was achieved when the cows were fed vitamin-A-deficient feed!

    -G

  • Dr. B G

    10/19/2008 1:13:00 PM |

    Anna Donny,

    Those are amazing observations.

    I do think Vitamin A is important. Most supplements however have 'beta carotene' and as Donny mentioned they are probably Lurotin by BASF or some other SYNTHETIC vitamin. This un-natural vitamin did not fare well in any clinical trial.

    Natural vitamin A is crucial -- just as vitamin D is for the thyroid and every organ in the body for growth, reproduction and anti-proliferative effects.

    Cows may be entirely deficient when compared with grass fed cows. I came across one study where the beef industry made the lovely conclusion that more marbling of the meat was achieved when the cows were fed vitamin-A-deficient feed!

    -G

  • dubyaemgee

    1/23/2009 4:11:00 PM |

    Honestly, this has to be one of the best blogs around!

    My levels are:
    Thyroid Panel with TSH
    TSH 4.326
    Thyroxine (T4) 5.2
    T3 uptake 38
    Free Thyroxine Index 2.0

    I see people referring to T3 and T4 levels, but not sure what "normal" is. My TSH seems high, and I feel as though I exhibit the symptoms of hypothyroidism. Any ideas?

  • Anonymous

    3/10/2009 8:58:00 PM |

    A wonderful endocrinologist in St. Louis named E.J. Cunningham told me that there is no blood test that tells you exactly how much T3 is inside the cells activating the mitochondria.  All of the tests are only approximations.  You must actually take a history and do a physical exam to diagnose hypothyroidism.  The only way to find out  if you are correct is the patients response to T3 or armour thyroid therapy.  If you have positive thyroid autoantibodies, you should be on therapy in most cases.

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