Fatal underdose

Since vitamin D has been the topic of a fair amount of media coverage, I've received many questions about this fascinating "nutrient." A day doesn't go by without several nurses, friends, even fellow physicians stopping me to ask about vitamin D.

When I inform them that the average dose for females in this region (upper Midwest) is 4000-5000 units per day, 5000-6000 units per day for males, they are all surprised. "Then why did they say just take your multivitamin every day, or just drink your milk on the news?"

Many people are even more surprised, sometimes completely turned off, when they hear that, to be truly confident of adequate vitamin D dosing, a blood level of 25(OH) vitamin D3 needs to be checked. Now we're talking real hassle!

But there is no other way to do it. In order to obtain the full potential benefits of vitamin D, such as reduction in blood sugar and sensitization to insulin, reduction in cancer risk (especially prostate, colon, and breast), reductions in blood pressure, increased bone density, not to mention markedly increasing the likelihood of stopping or reducing your heart scan score, then achieving a desirable blood level of 25(OH) vitamin D is necessary.

Checking a blood level of vitamin D is no more difficult than having a cholesterol test, unless, of course, your doctor balks at the idea. (Time for a new doctor if that occurs.)

All too often, someone will be convinced they are taking a sufficient dose of vitamin D of, say 2000 units per day, only to discover that their blood level of 25(OH) vitamin D is something like 17 ng/ml--severe deficiency, sufficient to leave them exposed to all the undesirable consequences of vitamin D deficiency. Even though 2000 units per day represents 500% of the Institute of Medicine's recommended Adequate Intake for adults, to those familiar with the Track Your Plaque program it likely sounds like a child's dose.

Many variables enter into the equation in your body that determines your need for vitamin D: body size (heavier or larger people need more, with obese people often requiring enormous doses); sex (men need more than women); age (aging results in dramatic loss of ability to activate vitamin D in the skin); race; skin color (darker skinned people require more). Trying to guess your need is a fool's game. It's also a game that can seriously compromise your health and your hopes of ever stopping or reducing your heart scan score.



The message is clear: You cannot guess what your vitamin D need is. You cannot properly judge your vitamin D requirement by your age, body size, sex, or any other characteristic. Having a tan or a lack of a tan is a lousy indicator, as well. A simple blood level of 25(OH) vitamin D is an absolute necessity to gauge your vitamin D status, both before starting and while on your supplement.

Members of Track Your Plaque: Watch for the 30-some page booklet, The Track Your Plaque Complete Handbook on Vitamin D and Heart Health, which will be released in the next day or two.


Copyright 2008 William Davis, MD

Is direct-to-consumer drug marketing a failure?

According to the poll just completed by 80 participants on The Heart Scan Blog, 50% of respondents said they were less likely to take a drug after viewing an advertisement for it. A whopping 3 (4%) said that they would be more likely to take the drug after viewing an advertisement.

I find that interesting. If half the people responding are less likely to become customers of a drug company, then how does the drug industry justify running around-the-clock, every-few-minute ads? Spending by the drug industry for direct-to-consumer (DTC) advertising has ballooned over the past few years, and is now well over $30 billion dollars per year.

Unfortunately, despite the views of the highly-educated, curious, think-for-yourself, health information-seeking sorts of people who read this blog, drug companies still come out on top by DTC advertising. Estimates vary, with a 2006 U.S. Government Accountability Office study reporting that, for every $1 DTC advertising, sales are increased by $2.20. A 2000 Harvard study showed a higher return of $4.40 for every advertising dollar spent.

I'm sure the drug companies themselves have a very tight accounting handle on their own set of figures. We may not be terribly fond of these people and their often suspect tactics, but they're not stupid. They are certainly not stupid when it comes to making money.

Interestingly, 80% of the funds spent on DTC advertising focus on the 20 or so most popular drugs, all of which are used for treatment of chronic conditions like high cholesterol and high blood pressure, markets that are large and long-term. It pays very little to advertise drugs that may serve small markets for a short period. The implicit message is that this is not at all about informing the public. It is about advertising to grow revenues and profits--pure and simple.

It makes me wonder what the results of our poll would have been had we conducted it in 2000 before many people hadn't yet been brought to the brink of vomiting from the endless onslaught of commercial after commercial, complete with smarmy spokespeople (a la Lipitor's Dr. Robert Jarvik). What will it show in two years? Will the broader public join the more informed people who read this blog and become increasingly inured to the hard sell tactics?

For further discussion of this topic, click here for a reprint of an August, 2007 New England Journal of Medicine study, A Decade of Direct-to-Consumer Advertising of Prescription Drugs provides background, along with commentary on the impact of DTC drug marketing since the FDA allowed it 10 years ago. (Because it is a study and not an editorial, the editors fall short of making any recommendations for improvement or calling for a moratorium.)


Copyright 2008 William Davis, MD

Cheerios and heart health



Anna responded to the Heart Scan Blog post, Can you say "sugar"? with the following wonderfully telling comment:

A measured bowl of Cheerios and a bit of milk (whole, because it's what I had), equal to 75 grams of carbohydrate, gave me the highest ever blood glucose reading from a food (not counting glucose solution from a Glucose Tolerance Test). I was attempting a "homemade" version of a 3 hr GTT before going to my doctor with my concerns about my BG.

My BG started to rise very fast within 15 minutes after eating the cereal, peaked at about 250 mg/dL at 45 minutes, then slowly dropped. By about 60-75 minutes, I experienced strong hunger and carb cravings as the BG began to slowly drop, and by about 2.5 hours after eating, my BG had suddenly dropped quite low (in the low 70s) and I had developed a nasty hypoglycemic feeling (shaky, irritable, craving sugary foods, headache, etc.).

It's hard for me to see "heart healthy" Cheerios (or any other highly processed breakfast cereal) as anything other than a bowl of pre-digested sugar that contributes to roller coaster blood glucose and insulin levels, which a great way to start anyone's day. Certainly, I don't do well with Cheerios because I clearly have a damaged glucose regulatory system (probably a diminished or absent first phase insulin response, but I can't imagine that it is doing any good for people with healthy glucose regulation, either.

I banned prepared cold cereals from our house. If my 9 yr old son gets cereal at all at home, it's whole groats (not even rolled or steel cut because those aren't truly "whole grain" anymore), soaked overnight in some water and a tsp of plain yogurt (soaking neutralizes phytates and reduces cooking time), then cooked about 8-10 minutes (water added as necessary). Sometimes I add a bit of quinoa or almond meal prior to soaking to boost the protein content a bit. I garnish with a pat of butter, some heavy cream, and a dusting of cinnamon. If I'm feeling *really* indulgent, I drizzle about 1 tsp of Grade B maple syrup on top (Grade B is stronger in flavor and so less can be used). I don't eat this cereal myself, and truthfully, I'd rather my son not, either, but he sometimes wants cereal. It's the least damaging compromise I can come up with that we can both live with.



I have also seen diabetic effects from Cheerios: rises in blood sugar, exagerration of small LDL, drops in HDL, rises in triglycerides. Yes, it may reduce LDL a small quantity, but so what?

The Cheerios "heart healthy" claim is based on a piece of research apparently performed by Dr. Donald Hunninghake at the University of Minnesota and reported in 1998:

A study conducted at the University of Minnesota Heart Disease Prevention Clinic and published as "Cholesterol-Lowering Benefits of a Whole Grain Oat Ready-to-Eat Cereal" in the May issue of the Nutrition in Clinical Care journal in 1998, showed that people can lower their blood cholesterol by an average of 3.8% over six weeks by enjoying 3 cups of cold cereal made with 100% whole grain oats everyday as part of the meals and snacks in a healthy lower-fat diet.

(Unfortunately, I could not locate the actual publication. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist; I just couldn't locate it. Perhaps it's in a small journal not entered into the online publication database.)

The purported effects of Cheerios should not be confused with that of actual, intact oat bran, as suggested by studies such as those of Brenda Davy et al, High-fiber oat cereal compared with wheat cereal consumption favorably alters LDL-cholesterol subclass and particle numbers in middle-aged and older men, in which significant reductions in LDL particle number and small LDL (NMR) were obtained. (This study was also supported by Quaker Oats.) Several studies have shown that oat bran does indeed reduce LDL cholesterol, sometimes as much as 30-50 mg/dl. Cheerios can not even come close to this.

If Cheerios were nothing more than finely pulverized oats, then perhaps it wouldn't be so bad. But add corn starch and sugar, and you have ingredients that have potential to distort LDL particle size and yield blood sugar-escalating effects like those described by Anna.

The gravity of perpetuating these myths is brought home by a testimonial posted on the website for Cheerios:

“I had unexpected open heart surgery a year ago. As I adopted heart health habits during my recovery, I realized that I should have been eating the Cheerios cereal I carried around in a plastic baggie so many years for my kids!”

Beverly
Scotch Plains, NJ



It makes me shudder.


Copyright 2008 William Davis, MD

The IF Life: Intermittent fasting

There's a wonderful blog called The IF Life: Intermittent Fasting and Instant Freedom. It is written by personal trainer (and apparently former corporate bigshot), Mike O'Donnell.

Mike has a great take on brief, intermittent fasting that I found helpful and I believe you will also.






Intermitent Fasting 101: How to Start, Part I

The biggest question people have is how to effectively use IF (intermittent fasting) to achieve their goals and maximum results. These results and goals can vary by each person with fat loss, muscle gain, better health, improved performance in your sport of choice and more. With that comes the individuality of what is a person’s insulin resistance, current body composition (bodyfat%), daily lifestyle, eating habits, macronutrient ratios (carbs/protein/fat), type of exercise program, frequency and volume of training, recovery demands, and so forth. You are unlikely to find 2 people with the same set of parameters and same exact responses to an IF protocol. What does this mean? Well just that we need to start with a basic IF program, and then learn how to monitor results and adjust as we go. Even down the road things will change as you will improve health, lower insulin resistance and maybe change performance and recovery needs. So nothing is ever just one set way. Life is dynamic (always changing and evolving) and so should be the way we see our own journey for health and fitness.

What is IF?

For those that may not be familiar to the term, intermittent fasting is just taking times of fast (no food) and working them into your lifestyle. This can be either daily or a couple times a week (will get into that more below). Benefits include improving insulin resistance (which you will hear alot about as being the #1 key marker in so many health factors including weight loss, muscle gain, performance, recovery, anti-ageing and disease prevention) and giving the body a chance to do some internal cleaning (or housework), which can lead to improved immune function and overall health. If you want to see studies of all the benefits of IF/CR, please the resources page.


How do I begin to IF?

Is there only one set way in which to do IF? No. I could easily come up with 10 different IF protocols based on 10 people’s individual’s needs, lifestyle, exercise, goal, macronutrient ratios, and so forth. We will keep it simple and give the 2 most frequent and basic options.

Daily Fasting: Typically done every day and only giving the person a smaller eating window in which to get their calories. (for example, a 18hr daily fast would mean someone would only eat every day between the hours of Noon and 6pm). You will see varying times from 15-19 hours for daily fasting.
Fasting 1-3x a week: This could also be called alternate day fasting/calorie restriction (for those doing it every other day). This is just fasting of usually longer periods 18-24 hours but only 1-3x a week. Many variations to play with here.
“But which one is better and how to I do it now if I want…….”. Whoa, slow down. I know many have questions but let’s still try to keep this simple for now and expand into more specifics later. So far many people have experimented with both types of IF and have seen great results. But you also have to take into account all the other variables such as what is the person eating in that window? Is is junk food? Is it low carb? How many times a week are they doing it? Are they overweight and wanting just fat loss? Are they lower bodyfat but looking for improved performance and health? How many times a week are they exercising? What kind are they doing and what intensity? The list can go on and on, but let’s start to analyze the 2 types of IF and let you decide which one best suits your lifestyle.

Daily Fasting (15-19 hours):

The Advantages are:

--simple eating strategies for every day
--even people that may not eat 100% clean foods can see weight loss due to the smaller window and lower calorie total per day


The Disadvantages are:

--Can possibly lower metabolism if calories are too low for too long (not what you want if your #1 goal is weight loss)
--Not getting enough food in the smaller window may also lead to muscle loss for more active people (not good)
Fasting 1-3x a week:


The advantages are:

--Allows a person to make sure they are getting enough calories on the non-fasting days, and then just keeps to a simple small feed window (if any) on the IF days.
--Simple thinking for people who do not have experience in how to eat clean to eat one day, and then eat in a smaller window the following day (alternate day fasting/CR). This can achieve fat loss for people who are mostly overweight and may not be too active. (of course don’t get me wrong, that eating healthy is our main goal but this can be a good step for some people to start their weight loss jounrey and learn how to make better choices as they go)


Disadvantages:

--Doesn’t force a person to make better choices with their food (as one could probably eat junk one day, and then fast the next and still lose weight). Not something we want long term because this is not going to improve your other health markers (diseases prevention, insulin resistance) like a good IF program on healthy foods.


Again I can’t say it enough, as there are so many variables to play with in an IF program. Some people may say “well it didn’t work for me” or “I didn’t gain any muscle”. Well unless I know everything about what you do for exercise daily, your total calories, when you eat and your macronutrient ratios (protein/carbs/fats), I can’t even begin to help. IF is a simple tool to start with, but you have to take full responsibility for your own health and progress and learn when it is not working and when to change things up! Like I said, if it is NOT working then stop IF and rethink your attack plan (or get a professional to coach you on it).

So to sum up, here are some examples of what you can play with:

Daily Fasting of 15-19 hours. I would highly suggest that if you do this make sure you are recovering from your exercise and start only Mon-Fri and give yourself the weekends to eat all day (hopefully with healthy choices of course)


Fast 1-2x a week to start if you have never done any fasting or do not know how to eat healthy and control your macronutrients. Start with 1-2 days a week with fasts of 18-20 hours (I wouldn’t start with 24 hr fasts to begin as most people can not handle the hunger cravings and in turn will just end up eating all the wrong foods when they do eat) and say eat only from say 1pm-6pm for example. Drink lots of water (add lemon, your liver will appreciate it! and it will help with the hunger). For example, fast Wed and Sun (or whatever days fit into your schedule)

Or you can do a mixed approach and fast every other day for a small eating window. For example eat all day Mon, only 12-6pm on Tues, all day Wed, 12-6pm on Thurs, etc. Start with bigger eating windows and make them smaller as you get used to fasting. This approach may work for people who have alot of weight to lose and can not (I should really say “will not” as everything is a choice!) eat 100% healthy for the moment. This approach may not work for more advanced people who have a high activity level unless you are getting a ton of health calories in that fasting window.
“So What Do I Eat on the Fasting Days?”

That’s the best part, you should be able to eat unlimited healthy foods (healthy proteins, fats, veggies, fruit, nuts…see Paleo Diet in the resources page). If you are eating more processed foods, breads and other high calorie intakes then you may have to monitor and control portions. Please know this is NOT about chronic calorie restriction or starving yourself. When I do weeks of eating 1-7pm, I am eating a ton of protein and veggies (complex carbs pwo also). I am hardly starving myself. I am not taking in 4000 cal a day however, so my daily average of say 2200-2500 cal is still low compared to the alternative. If you want to lose weight of course you will need a calorie deficit to pull the “stored energy” out of fat cells. That is the advantage to eating “Paleo”, you can’t over eat on protein, healthy fats, fruits (in moderation) and veggies. If you are making bad choices or starving yourself on IF, you may lose the effectiveness or slow progress. All goes back to the fact that if it is not working, then change something up! (there is always something that can be changed…and food choices is the #1 place to start!) I don’t count calories, and by eating natural foods that have been around for 100s of years….I don’t need to! (eating healthy natural foods will not only help you lose weight but also improve your health and lower your risks of diseases….so eating for health should always be the #1 goal in any program)

Hopefully this will give a good overview while trying to keep it simple. Remember it’s your journey to take, measure progress and adjust things that are not working. Start with one approach, and modify it. Who knows, your approach may change every couple months and that is ok. Life is always changing and so should your approach to health and fitness (as the body always responds better to change than sticking with the same eating/exercise approach for a long period of time).

Can you say "sugar"?

All of these products bear the American Heart Association Check Mark of approval emblem, signifying that they are "heart healthy":


Kellogg's Frosted Mini-Wheats cereal

Ingredients:WHOLE GRAIN WHEAT, SUGAR, STRAWBERRY FLAVORED CRUNCHLETS (SUGAR, CORN CEREAL, CORN SYRUP, MODIFIED CORN STARCH, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED COTTONSEED AND/OR SOYBEAN OIL, CITRIC ACID, GLYCERIN, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, RED #40, BLUE #2), NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL STRAWBERRY AND CREME FLAVOR, SORBITOL, GELATIN, REDUCED IRON, NIACINAMIDE, ZINC OXIDE, RED #40, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B6), RIBOFLAVIN (VITAMIN B2), THIAMIN HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B1), FOLIC ACID, BLUE #1, AND VITAMIN B12. TO MAINTAIN QUALITY, BHT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE PACKAGING.










Orville Redenbacher popcorns









Dora the Explorer Cereal
























Cheerios
























The following requirements must be met to gain approval of the Check Mark program:

1) total fat 3.0 grams or less per serving

2) saturated fat 1.0 gram or less per serving

3) 20 grams or less cholesterol per serving

4) 480 mg or less sodium per serving

5) "Jelly Bean Rule": 10% of the Daily Value of 6 nutrients (e.g., fiber, vitamins A and C, etc.) must also be contained in each serving.


Had the Check Mark program focused on genuine nutrition and rated products by:

1) Healthy oil content

2) Sugar content or sugar-equivalents, i.e., glycemic index or load

3) Impact on HDL, small LDL, triglycerides

none of these products would have made the list, not even close.

Warfarin is scary stuff

Gilbert is a 58-year old high school science teacher.

When I first met Gil, he'd been having bouts of atrial fibrillation and had required various medications to suppress recurrences of the rhythm. However, because his rhythm proved somewhat difficult to control, his electrophysiologist (heart rhythm specialist) prescribed warfarin to reduce the risk of stroke. With atrial fibrillation, because of blood stagnation (in the left atrial appendage) in the heart, there is a stroke risk of approximately 8% per year. Warfarin reduces this risk substantially, to about 2%.

I met Gil because he had a cholesterol disorder. In my practice, the first step in gauging the implications of a lipid or lipoprotein disorder is to obtain a heart scan. If the heart scan score is zero, great. It means that we have plenty of time to treat the disorder since risk for cardiovascular events is near zero also; it means less intensive efforts less intensive efforts are necessary. But if the heart scan score is, say, 1200, then an aggressive approach in short order is required, since the risk for heart attack may as high as 20-25% per year, even in the absence of symptoms.

Gil's heart scan score: 787--high and posing a risk for heart attack of about 5-10% per year without preventive efforts. Gil did indeed prove to have a complex lipoprotein disorder, as well as high blood pressure, vitamin D deficiency, and several other potential contributors to coronary plaque.

Gil did just about everything right: He exercised, followed the recommended diet, achieved better than the Track Your Plaque 60-60-60, lost 18 lbs of abdominal fat.

Gil's rhythm stabilized for several months, only to have atrial fibrillation break through again. So Gil's electrophysiologist re-prescribed warfarin.

18 months later, Gil's 2nd heart scan score: 1410--a near doubling. Unsettling to Gil and to us, to say the least.

How can this happen in the face of perfect lipids/lipoproteins, correction of hidden causes like lipoprotein(a) and inflammation, along with a vigorous lifestyle effort?

I fear that the culprit might be warfarin.

Warfarin, better known by its brand name, Coumadin, may have some effects that intersect with the Track Your Plaque mission of reducing coronary plaque.

It is no secret that, beyond the obvious risk of bleeding from blood thinning, warfarin also may:

--Accelerate aortic valve calcification
--Accelerate calcification of the framework of the mitral valve (the mitral "anulus")
--Accelerate osteoporosis
--Induce an artificial situation of vitamins K1 and K2 deficiency.

The vitamin K1 deficiency is the route by which blood thinning is achieved. However, the K2 deficiency may have undesirable consequences, among which are the above list of various pathologic calcifications.

I therefore wonder if warfarin dramatically accelerated the coronary calcium that we track to gauge the progression of coronary atherosclerosis. One experience is hardly sufficient reason to sound the alarm. It is also difficult to pinpoint the cause of the explosive growth in Gil's coronary calcium specifically on warfarin.

That all said, I am quite certain it was the warfarin.

Unfortunately, some people are unavoidably committed to warfarin, such as those with specific genetic blood clotting disorders, prosthetic valves, prior deep vein thromboses and pulmonary emboli, etc.--serious reasons. Until an alternative emerges, warfarin remains a necessity for some people. (No, nattokinase is NOT an alternative, at least not one that would permit survival.)

My personal policy is that warfarin be used only when absolutely necessary and the gains markedly outweight the risks--including that of possible accelerated calcification of multiple sites.

Whether we will be able to get Gil off warfarin and potentially gain control over his coronary disease/plaque/calcium remains to be seen. I sure hope so.




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Copyright 2008 William Davis, MD

Lipoprotein(a) Research Foundation

There is no longer any doubt that lipoprotein(a) is a major causal factor in heart disease:

Meta-analysis (combined re-analysis) of 27 prospective studies:
Danesh J et al. Lipoprotein(a) and Coronary Heart Disease: Meta-Analysis of Prospective Studies


Lp(a) and "subclinical" atherosclerosis
Brown SA et al. The relation of lipoprotein[a] concentrations and apolipoprotein[a] phenotypes with asymptomatic atherosclerosis in subjects of the Atherosclerosis Risk in Communities (ARIC) Study.

Lp(a) and oxidized LDL
Tsimikas S et al. Oxidized phospholipids, Lp(a) lipoprotein, and coronary artery disease.

Lp(a) predicts peripheral vascular disease
Valentine RJ et al. Lp(a) lipoprotein is an independent, discriminating risk factor for premature peripheral atherosclerosis among white men.

Peltier M et al.Elevated serum lipoprotein(a) level is an independent marker of severity of thoracic aortic atherosclerosis.


Lp(a) across various populations
Gambhir JK et al. Association between lipoprotein(a) levels, apo(a) isoforms and family history of premature CAD in young Asian Indians.

Weber M et al. Metabolic factors clustering, lipoprotein cholesterol, apolipoprotein B, lipoprotein (a) and apolipoprotein E phenotypes in premature coronary artery disease in French Canadians.



Lp(a) and stroke risk
Jurgens G et al. Lipoprotein(a) serum concentration and apolipoprotein(a) phenotype correlate with severity and presence of ischemic cerebrovascular disease.

Willeit J et al. Lipoprotein(a) and asymptomatic carotid artery disease. Evidence of a prominent role in the evolution of advanced carotid plaques: the Bruneck Study.




From just about any direction, Lp(a) has been conclusively associated with atherosclerotic disease. We have more than enough data proving association.

But there are two areas of desperate need:

1) Data on effective treatments.

2) Raising awareness of this widely unknown (among the public) and ignored (among health professionals) genetic condition.

Treatment remains a real struggle. In a recent detailed Track Your Plaque Special Report, Unique Treatment Strategies for Lipoprotein(a) Reduction, we summarized the treatment approaches that have some power to reduce Lp(a) and/or its potential for causing heart disease. But, even armed with an appreciation for the world's scientific literature on this genetic condition, full control remains difficult for many people.

Track Your Plaque's HeartHawk has Lp(a) and he has struggled with this pattern for the last several years. He details some of his thoughts in a recent blog post.

More research and clinical studies are required and we need it soon if we hope to gain better control over this genetic pattern that affects up to 20% of people with coronary or vascular disease. Much of the needed research is sophisticated, background work similar to that being done by Dr. Santico Marcovina at University of Washington, Dr. Angelo Scanu at the University of Chicago, and Dr. Sally McCormick in New Zealand.

However, much of the needed research also consists of brief clinical experiences that detail whether or not there is an effect of various potential agents. Larger experiences, for instance, with potential treatment agents such as various phospholipid fractions, acetylcysteine, antibiotic regimens, some hormonal treatments, etc. could be performed quickly and simply. These studies would not require the $20 or $30 million typically spent by a drug company for a study, nor the several hundred million dollars to gain FDA approval of a new agent. They would simply be examinations of existing agents. These studies still cost money, require expertise, staff, and equipment. But the cost is a tiny fraction of the drug industry's investment in research. But it also means that investment return is nil from a drug manufacturer's perspective. Yet there are literally dozens, perhaps hundreds, of agents that hold some promise but have not been thoroughly studied.

For instance, if a specific modification of the phosphatidylcholine molecule were to generate a substantial Lp(a) reducing effect, Merck, Pfizer, and AstraZeneca would yawn--it is non-patent protectable, cannot be protected from competitors through the costly FDA approval process, and therefore is simply not worth their investment--regardless of whether it works or not.

(This is yet another example of how the drug industry, as well as hospitals and many health professionals, have lost sight of their real mission: to alleviate disease, not to profit from sickness.)

HeartHawk and I have discussed on a number of occasions whether a Lipoprotein(a) Research Foundation should be formed, an organization that seeks to fund the smaller research efforts that may accelerate productive research in Lp(a) and perhaps yield useful strategies faster than hoping for somebody to simply stumble on a treatment, or wait for the drug industry to create a unique, patentable entity that returns billions.

I'd like to propose that our Track Your Plaque program begin to fund such an effort. But a lot more help will be needed, particularly to generate the money to fund genuine, high-quality research from high-quality researchers.

If any readers of the Heart Scan Blog have any thoughts or insights into this process of creating a foundation, we'd appreciate your input.

More on ASTEROID

Since we are on the topic of the ASTEROID trial and rosuvastatin, I'd make one more point before I start to sound like I'm plugging this drug (which I definitely am not).

In an informative Roundtable Discussion (open to subscribers to the American Journal of Cardiology; sorry) amongst Dr. Steve Nissen, principal investigator behind ASTEROID; and Drs. Vincent Friedewald, Christie Ballantyne, P. Shah, and William Roberts, Dr. Nissen made some interesting comments:


Dr. Shah: In ASTEROID, was the magnitude of atheroma volume change seen across different levels of LDL-C and HDL-C?

Dr. Nissen: No. There was no plaque regression seen in the 17 persons with LDL-Cs >/= 100 mg/dl, and there was little change in persons with LDL-Cs of 70 to 100 mg/dl. Only in persons with LDLs less than or equal to 70 mg/dl was there significant regression. The study was not powered to look for an HDL-C(which increased by 14.7%)-raising effect.



Interesting. In other words, ASTEROID, in a fairly internally consistent way, suggests that the lower the LDL is reduced, the more likely plaque regression is obtained. This is consistent with the Track Your Plaque experience, in which we've advocated reducing (calculated) LDL cholesterol to 60 mg/dl for the past several years.

Unfortunately, the message that the ASTEROID Trial sponsors, AstraZeneca, as well as the roundtable discussion panel (later in the discussion) try to make is that there is something magical about Crestor, that it yields benefits superior to other statin agents or other means of reducing LDL.

I disagree with this message. In the Track Your Plaque experience, we do aim for a similar LDL target. But we also employ a number of other strategies. We have also succeeded in regressing plaque without use of any statin drugs (though, admittedly, many people do require statin drugs to obtain LDLs in this range). We also witness magnitudes of reversal that often far exceed that seen in ASTEROID.

The Rountable Discussion is unfortunately tainted, as is the ASTEROID Trial itself, with deep drug industry financial involvement of the Roundtable participants. In fact, the discussion begins with a listing of the financial disclosures of the participants, a listing that occupies a full column of a two-column page. The potential biases of the participants doesn't necessarily invalidate the arguments, but to me suggests that participants are more likely to argue in favor of the sponsor's drug, or that participants were chosen because of these biases.

Why bother to even mention the ASTEROID Trial in a venue (the Heart Scan Blog, that is) that purports to seek unvarnished, unbiased truth in coronary plaque reversal? Because useful information can sometimes be found in unlikely places. Just like the four-year old child who blurts out an unexpected pearl of wisdom, so it can happen with the gobbledy-gook that emerges from the drug industry.

Every once in a while, they are worth paying attention to.

LDL cholesterol, statins, and plaque regression

The ASTEROID Trial reported in 2006 examined the effects of LDL cholesterol reduction using the statin drug, rosuvastatin (Crestor), with coronary atherosclerosis quantified and tracked with intracoronary ultrasound. The Track Your Plaque report, New study confirms: LDL of 60 mg reverses plaque, on the ASTEROID Trial provides commentary on the results.


Though I remain skeptical that a statin-only treatment strategy can reverse coronary plaque in the majority of people, I do believe that the AstraZeneca-sponsored ASTEROID Trial does add to the wisdom on heart disease management. More importantly, it has served to raise awareness among both the public and my physician colleagues that atherosclerosis is indeed a potentially reversible condition.


Specifically, the ASTEROID results confirm that, either directly or indirectly, LDL cholesterol reduction achieved with statin agents does correspond to increasing degrees of plaque reversal. The mean (calculated) LDL cholesterol achieved in ASTEROID was 60 mg/dl, the same as the Track Your Plaque suggested LDL target.

Though the ASTEROID Trial is not news, I stumbled on a chart posted on the ASTEROID Trial website that clearly highlights how a number of other studies beyond ASTEROID have fallen into this pattern:





The graph reveals a linear relationship: The greater the reduction in LDL cholesterol with statin drugs, the greater the plaque regression ("change in percent atheroma volume"). (Several other studies not included in the graph also cluster into the same linear relationship.)

I am no supporter of drug companies, nor a defender of their policies and practices. But I do believe that their data can serve to teach us a few lessons. For instance, here is an (cherry-picked, to be sure) example of intracoronary ultrasound cross-sectional images before and after two years of rosuvastatin, 40 mg daily:





The color-coded/outlined atherosclerotic coronary plaque is shown shrinking, while the "lumen," or the path for blood to flow, enlarges. The reduction in coronary plaque is irrefutable. (The small circle within the lumen with the white halo surrounding it is the ultrasound catheter.)

If you and I were to choose a single treatment approach to coronary disease reversal, then 40 mg of rosuvastatin is probably at the top of the list. However, in the Track Your Plaque program, we do not advocate a single treatment strategy. While the Crestor-only approach is relatively straightforward--one pill a day--few people, in my experience, can tolerate this dose for any length of time. Patients invariably have to stop the drug or reduce the dose severely due to muscle aches when I've had patients try it. Contrary to the ASTEROID results, in my experience the majority of people, perhaps all, eventually give up with this improbable "one-size-fits-all" scheme.

The Track Your Plaque approach, while more complicated and involves several nutritional supplements and strategies, in my view addresses more causes of coronary plaque, is better tolerated, and provides health benefits outside of just LDL cholesterol reduction. It also minimizes or eliminates the need for prescription medication.



Studies cited in graph:

1.Nissen S et al. N Engl J Med 2006;354:1253-1263.
2 Tardif J et al. Circulation 2004;110:3372-3377.
3 Nissen S et al. JAMA 2006;295 (13):1556-1565
4 Nissen S et al. JAMA 2004;292: 2217–2225.
5 Nissen S et al. JAMA 2004; 291:1071–1080

When is a calorie not a calorie?

One ounce of raw almonds (about 23 nuts) contains:


6 grams protein

14 grams fat

6 grams carbohydrate

3.5 grams fiber

For a total of 163 calories per ounce.


(From the USDA Nutrient Database)


Calorie content of foods is determined by summing up the calories from each constituent: 1 gram of fat = 9 calories; 1 gram protein = 4 calories; 1 gram carbohydrate = 4 calories. Calorie content can also be directly measured using a device called a burn calorimeter, in which the amount of energy released from a specific food is measured by literally burning it and gauging precisely how much energy is released.


The problem with both of these methods is that it is assumed that all foods are digested with equal efficiency. That is, it assumes that a potato chip is as readily digested and absorbed as energy from table sugar, a pretzel, oatmeal, a piece of steak, or a handful of nuts. In real life, of course this is not true. Different foods are absorbed with varying efficiency.

For a long time I've suspected that some foods are very inefficiently absorbed. I've particularly suspected that raw nuts are relatively poorly absorbed and thus yield only a fraction of the calories ingested.

Among the studies recently reported at the Federation of the Association of Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) meetings I attended in San Diego this past week were several devoted to almonds.

One study, to my surprise, documented this phenomenon. In Manipulation of lipid bioaccessibility of almonds influences postprandial lipemia in healthy human subjects, it was determined that, of 100 calories ingested from the fat fraction of almonds, only about half was actually absorbed. The remaining half passed out in the stool. (They did this by collecting stool samples and comparing the fat composition after eating the different almonds prepartions. This is not discussed in the limited text of the abstract.) In addition, postprandial (after-eating) surges in triglycerides were much less with whole almonds compared to the oil separated from the nut (i.e., broken down into almond oil + defatted almond flour). The researchers attributed the difference to the inhibitory effects of the almond nut's "food matrix," or the structural properties of chewed foods.

Add to this the fact that, of 6 grams of carbohydrate per ounce of whole almonds, 3.5 grams are indigestible fibers. This means that 6 - 3.5 = 2.5 grams of digestible carbohydrates are present per ounce (assuming 100% release).

If we follow the reasoning that only about half the fat fraction of almonds are absorbed, and assume that the protein and carbohydrate (minus the indigestible fibers) are absorbed efficiently (100%), then we would re-calculate the calorie content of almonds to be 97 calories per ounce, or 40% less than calories calculated by composition or measured with a calorimeter.

If we were to assume that protein and carbohydrates were, like fats, inefficiently absorbed because of the effects of the food matrix, then one ounce of almonds yields 88 calories per ounce, or 46% less. This is, in fact, a likely scenario, since the food matrix is largely created by the cell wall and should impede digestive access to fat, protein, and carbohydrate equally.

My point? Almonds and other nuts at first appear to be calorically dense due to fat composition. However, this simplistic view of nuts is misleading because of the confounding effects of the food matrix. Stated differently: Whole foods yield less calories. And, judging by the postprandial triglyceride effects: Whole foods yield less undesirable effects, such as postprandial rises in triglycerides.

Some other observations with almonds included:

The effect of almonds on plasma lipids in persons with prediabetes This study confirmed the LDL-reducing and modest HDL-raising effects of almonds.

Almonds (Amygdalus communis L.) as a possible source of prebiotic functional food This curious observation suggests that almonds modify the bacterial flora of the intestinal tract in a positive way (like the cultures in yogurts).



Copyright 2008 William Davis, MD
"High-dose" Vitamin D

"High-dose" Vitamin D

I stumbled on one of the growing number of local media stories on the power of vitamin D.

In one story, a purported "expert" was talking about the benefits of "high-dose" vitamin D, meaning up to 1000, even 2000 units per day.

I regard this as high-dose---for an infant.

Judging by my experiences, now numbering well over 1000 patients over three years time, I'd regard this dose range not as "high dose," nor moderate dose, perhaps not even low dose. I'd regard it as barely adequate.

Though needs vary widely, the majority of men require 6000 units per day, women 5000 units per day. Only then do most men and women achieve what I'd define as desirable: 60-70 ng/ml 25-hydroxy vitamin D blood level.

I base this target level by extrapolating from several simple observations:

--In epidemiologic studies, a blood level of 52 ng/ml seems to be an eerily consistent value: >52 ng/ml and cancer of the colon, breast, and prostate become far less common; <52 ng/ml and cancers are far more likely. I don't know about you, but I'd like to have a little larger margin of safety than just achieving 52.1 ng/ml.

--Young people (not older people >40 years old, who have lost most of the capacity to activate vitamin D in the skin) who obtain several days to weeks of tropical sun typically have 25-hydroxy vitamin D blood levels of 80-100 ng/ml without adverse effect.

More recently, having achieved this target blood level in many people, I can tell you confidently that achieving this blood level of vitamin D achieves:

--Virtual elimination of "winter blues" and seasonal affective disorder in the great majority
--Dramatic increases in HDL cholesterol (though full effect can require a year to develop)
--Reduction in triglycerides
--Modest reduction in blood pressure
--Dramatic reduction in c-reactive protein (far greater than achieved with Crestor, JUPITER trial or no)
--Increased bone density (improved osteoporosis/osteopenia)
--Halting or reversal of aortic valve disease

(I don't see enough cancer in my cardiology practice to gauge whether or not there has been an impact on cancer incidence.)

My colleagues who have bothered to participate in the vitamin D conversation have issued warnings about not going "overboard" with vitamin D, generally meaning a level of >30 ng/ml.

I know of no rational basis for these cautions. If hypercalcemia (increased blood calcium) is the concern, then calcium levels can be monitored. I can reassure them that calcium levels virtually never go up in people (without rare diseases like sarcoid or hyperparathyroidism). Then why any hesitation in recreating blood levels that are enjoyed by tropical inhabitants exposed to plentiful sun that achieve these extraordinary health effects?

For the present, I have applied the target level of 60-70 ng/ml without apparent ill-effect. In fact, I have witnessed nothing but hugely positive effects.

Comments (43) -

  • Anne

    12/30/2008 8:58:00 AM |

    This time last year I started taking 4,000 ius of D3 per day. Four months later I had a 25(OH)D test and the result was 154 ng/ml. I had to stop taking the D immediately as my alkaline phosphatase levels had got too high.

    Two months later with no D3 and no sun my 25(OH)D had dropped to more normal levels and I resumed taking the D3 last August but this time at 2,000 ius per day. I continue to take 2,000 ius per day. I don't get any sun. My last measurement of 25(OH)D was 62 ng/ml. My HDL is 93 and my triglycerides 53. Maybe I'm unusual ? My endocrinologist was very surprised I must say.

    Anne

  • Elise P

    12/30/2008 2:22:00 PM |

    I take 3000 IU's daily and my D level is 52.  I'm also 2 months pregnant.  Is it safe for my pregnancy to continue taking higher levels of Vitamin D and should I up my dosage?  Baby books of course recommend a very low dose citing potential overdose at higher levels. I haven't asked my OB yet.

  • Anonymous

    12/30/2008 3:03:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis,
    Good to know the right dosage for Vitamin D. But if mere addition of it results in all the things you listed, how do you explain the high incidence of CVD in a country like India where the sun shines 12 months a year.

  • BarbaraW

    12/30/2008 3:26:00 PM |

    Thank you Dr. Davis for all the articles on Vitamin D, as well as all the other useful information you provide!  We truly appreciate it.

    Happy New Year!

  • JoeEO

    12/30/2008 8:58:00 PM |

    I primary care physician raised his eye brows when I told him I was supplementing with 8IU of Vitamin D. (Carlson Vitamin D gelcaps)

    I just received my the results of my blood test. My vitamin D level is 25NG/ML - I hate to see what my levels would be like with zero supplementation.

    Joe E O

  • David

    12/31/2008 12:37:00 AM |

    Anonymous,
    Don't forget --exposure to sunlight doesn't guarantee vitamin D activation in the body. This is dependent on several factors, including things like age and darkness of the skin. The darker the skin, the less vitamin D will be made in the body. If those in India are not supplementing with vitamin D, chances are good that they aren't making enough from whatever UVB exposure they have.

    Just my two cents.

    David

  • Wifezilla

    12/31/2008 1:29:00 AM |

    I take 8000IU of D3. So far my head has not exploded nor have I turned in to a newt.

    Why this amount? I am over 40, I am still a little over weight (down over 40 lbs), and I have a family history of heart disease, high blood pressure, stroke and Alzheimer's disease.

    I began supplementing last Winter at 2000IU. I stopped when Summer hit because I actually got some sun. Due to taking the supplements, I could go outside without bursting in to flames for the first time since I was a kid!!!

  • Anonymous

    12/31/2008 6:22:00 AM |

    Elise said:
    I take 3000 IU's daily and my D level is 52. I'm also 2 months pregnant. Is it safe for my pregnancy to continue taking higher levels of Vitamin D and should I up my dosage? Baby books of course recommend a very low dose citing potential overdose at higher levels. I haven't asked my OB yet.

    The baby books are probably very wrong.  A new study in Clinical Endocrinology reports that...women with 25(OH)D <37.5 nmol/L were almost 4 times as likely to have a cesarean than women with 25(OH)D ≥37.5 nmol/L (AOR 3.84; 95% CI 1.71 to 8.62).
    Full link:
    http://tr.im/2rnz

    I also read somewhere that if you breastfeed, your milk will not contain any D3 until your blood levels are above 50 (ie, if you don't supplement enough, your body conserves all D3 for itself, sharing none with your infant.)

    (Unfortunately, I don't have the link to that study.)

  • Anne

    12/31/2008 12:36:00 PM |

    In the first post Anne says that she is able to keep her vitamin D level at 62 with 2000 IU's. I got my level to 42 in the summer, but this fell to 24ng/ml during the winter even though I was using 2000 IU's. I am now supplementing with 5000 IU and will test again soon. My oral supplementation of D needs to be higher in the winter than in the summer.

    Elise ~ congratulations on your pregnancy. There are recent articles showing a possible link between low vitamin D and higher C-section rates and higher risk of pre-eclampsia.

  • Jessica

    12/31/2008 5:16:00 PM |

    Elise- Pregnant women need Vitamin D and your level should be greater than 60 ng/mL.

    Having an optimal Vitamin D level could help prevent preeclampsia. Plus, your baby NEEDS Vitamin D for normal development and has no way of getting it except through you.

    Google "Vitamin D philadelphia pregnancy study" and see about the research done re: Vit D and pregnancy.

    My Primary care doc recommends 6,000 IU/daily for pregnant patients. He draws Vit D and calcium blood levels every 3 months.

    Your OB will likely not recommend much- OBs live in the dinosaur ages. It's by far the slowest specialty to adapt to medical news.

    Google Vitamin D and pregnancy and read up- you'll find that it's perfectly safe (and in fact, will help your infant immensely) to stay on optimal doses of D.

    My sister took 10,000 IU daily during pregnancy, so did a RN at our office.  

    Best wishes for a happy and healthy pregnancy Smile

  • Richard Nikoley

    12/31/2008 9:46:00 PM |

    I just had a very interesting experience, but keep in mind: this is purely anecdotal.

    I've been taking 6k IU per day for a few months and I'll soon get tested to see what my level is. However, week before last was the holiday party week and I was at parties like 5 days in a row, LOTS of drink (scotch, mostly), staying up late, getting up early, etc.

    Predictably, I came down with a cold. On that first day, with that odd scratchy feeling in the back of my throat, I did 18k units of D. Next morning, no symptoms, to the point I though I might be mistaken about a cold coming on. Next morning, bang, the nose starts running, sneezes, but very mild -- like 25% of a cold. 18K units again, and within hours, no more symptoms. Next morning, same thing with the runny nose, so I did another 18K units and within a few hours all symptoms were gone, it's now almost a week later and they have not returned.

    I almost can't wait to catch another cold just to see if I can duplicate.

    BTW, I stumbled on some amazing epidemiological info on D, and did a series of posts on it yesterday:

    http://www.freetheanimal.com/root/2008/12/epidemic-influenza-and-vitamin-d.html

    http://www.freetheanimal.com/root/2008/12/vitamin-d-deficiency-and-type-1-diabetes.html

    http://www.freetheanimal.com/root/2008/12/melanoma-sun-and-its-synthetic-defeat-sunscreen.html

    http://www.freetheanimal.com/root/2008/12/vitamin-d-deficiency-and-all-cancer.html

  • David

    1/2/2009 2:06:00 AM |

    Very interesting indeed, Richard. I had a similar experience recently.

    It was a few days before Thanksgiving, and I felt myself getting sick. Not with a cold, but with the flu. I got a 102 degree fever and felt awful. I remembered Dr. Cannell and Dr. Mercola talking about "stoss" therapy, so I calculated an "influenza dose" based on my body weight. I took around 150,000 IU once per day for three days. On the morning of the third day, I was completely better and was able to eat Thanksgiving dinner with my family. All in all, I had the flu for TWO DAYS. Amazing. I've never recovered from a severe illness that fast. In the past, I have always been very slow to recover. Incredible stuff.

  • Anna

    1/2/2009 10:20:00 PM |

    My experiments last winter and this one with high doses of D at the first sign of a cold have been very similar, though I have been using 8-12,000iU of D3 (Carlson Solar Gems 4000iU x 3 each morning for my husband and I, x 1 for my son).  The past week we were visiting family members some of whom had a cold that was catchy, and so far, we haven't caught the cold.  Of course, they were skeptical of the Vit D boosting the immune system, etc.

  • Anonymous

    1/2/2009 10:23:00 PM |

    Richard,  

    your experience where Vitamin D appears to eradicate cold symptons is similar to my experience.

    In past winters I always experienced major colds - typically three to five during the months of November through April.  Usually they would last a couple of weeks each.

    Late Spring 2008 I learned about the critical importance of vitamin D3.  Now I supplement between 6,000 IU and 8,000 IU per day, and my 25(OH)D level floats in the 60 - 80 ng/ml range.  

    This year, sofar, I have had three experiences where I thought I caught a cold with typical symptoms.   In each case the symptoms seemed to get worse during the first day, but completely resolved within 24 hours.  No additional medication or supplementation of anyting, except the regular 6k - 8k IU D3.

    With research indicating that vitamin D is critical to a strong immune system, my sense is that the cold virus still attacks, but has no change to survive when the immune system is strong, enabled by means of adequate Vitamin D.

    By the way, my four year old son also has no persistent cold symptons this year, no ear infections.  Such relief!

    It is great to see that vitamin D does much more than enusring the cold virus cannot survive.  The strong immune system it allows our bodies to build, appears to reduce all kinds of inflammation (CVD link) and cellular problems.

    Arnoud

  • Anonymous

    1/4/2009 10:52:00 PM |

    Hi Dr. Davis,

    I am having a physical soon, which labs/tests would you recommend that I ask my physician to order?

    Thanks in advance.

    -Patrik

  • Richard Nikoley

    1/5/2009 6:54:00 PM |

    Regarding the epidemiological aspect of 52, check out the last image on my post the other day about vitamin d and all cancer:

    http://www.freetheanimal.com/root/2008/12/vitamin-d-deficiency-and-all-cancer.html

  • moblogs

    1/6/2009 1:21:00 PM |

    I've had a similar experience to Anonymous.
    I'm currently taking 10k a day and I never had the flu in 2008 (and I usually get it without fail once a year minimum).
    However there were times close to the 5th day (I take my D as 50k once every 5 days) where I'd feel I was getting something. But by the time I took the next dose I was fine. The flu didn't really get to develop, but the next dose seemed to get rid of it.

  • Anonymous

    2/17/2009 7:55:00 PM |

    Can taking an oil-based vitamin D-3 supplement
    in the range of 2,000-5,000 IU per day spike liver enzymes AST and/or ALT ???

  • David

    2/18/2009 4:24:00 AM |

    "Can taking an oil-based vitamin D-3 supplement in the range of 2,000-5,000 IU per day spike liver enzymes AST and/or ALT ???"

    Just ran across this study recently, and thought it might have some application here:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17823429

    These were specifically people with MS, but it's noteworthy that they mention in passing that liver enzymes were unchanged with D3 doses at 28,000 to 280,000 IU per week.

    It seems very unlikely to me that vitamin D at that dose would cause a spike in liver enzymes...

  • Anonymous

    3/22/2009 10:04:00 PM |

    Elise,

    I did not realize that I was pregnant until Week 6 of pregnancy.  During Week 4 and Week 5, I took one 50,000 IU dose of a vitamin D prescription. I can't find much info on whether this overdose is likely to cause birth defects.  I stopped taking it after week 5.  Was your baby healthy after taking your 3,000 IU's during pregnancy?  If anyone has any info, I appreciate it because I am so worried about this!

  • Elise P

    3/23/2009 1:23:00 PM |

    Anonymous said...

        Elise,

        I did not realize that I was pregnant until Week 6 of pregnancy. During Week 4 and Week 5, I took one 50,000 IU dose of a vitamin D prescription. I can't find much info on whether this overdose is likely to cause birth defects. I stopped taking it after week 5. Was your baby healthy after taking your 3,000 IU's during pregnancy? If anyone has any info, I appreciate it because I am so worried about this!

    Anonymous: I'm almost 5 months pregnant now and all tests show the baby is healthy, and I'm still taking D at a dose of 4,000 IU per month.  I'm due to get my blood levels tested again but I'm not worried any more after doing some research specifically on pregnancy and vitamin D supplementation.  I wouldn't do the high doses weekly as you were previously doing but I wouldn't discontinue taking the D if I were you (keep your levels in the high normal range and keep testing). I'm 40 with my first baby and became pregnant after trying for a while - only after I had been supplementing D for a few months and it could be what made the difference in conceiving.  A very nice reply from Mike V. from a related post gave me this link: http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/VitDGenScience/Hollis%20vit%20D%20pregnacy.pdf
    Hope that helps and good luck!

  • Anonymous

    3/26/2009 10:37:00 PM |

    Elise,  Thank you so much for the response. I feel better. I also visited a prenatal specialist and they put my mind at east as well.  I am not going to take the 50,000 IU dosage during the remainder of pregnancy.

  • Anonymous

    4/8/2009 12:47:00 AM |

    Well, I had posted a while back that I took 50,000 IU doses of vitamin D early in my pregnancy because I had not yet known that I was pregnant.  I had a miscarriage today.  I'm so sad.

  • Elise P

    4/8/2009 6:20:00 PM |

    Anonymous,
    I'm so sorry for your loss.
    Elise

  • mbarnes

    9/9/2009 10:42:17 AM |

    There are good data showing that vitamin D protects against colds and flu. Indeed the Canadians are running studies with vitamin D to determine if it can reduce the indcidence of N1H1, Here is a link a to a recent article that covers these data:
    http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs026/1102452079631/archive/1102685428884.html
    and take a look at www.vitaminD3world.com for some good summaries of the data in general

  • Anonymous

    11/6/2009 4:00:15 PM |

    Everybody should get their Vitamin D level tested, because we are all so different. I was at 40 with 4000 IU of D3 a day. I doubled it to 8000 IU of D3 and, after 6 months, my level is only 52! I read that 10,000 IU per day was the new safe upper limit. I am going up to 10,000 now, but I wonder if it would be safe to take more than that. I really want to get up to the 80ish level. Why settle for 50% less chance of cancer? 90% less sounds much better to me. I wonder why I need so much more D3 than others. I am older and fatter than average; maybe that is the reason.

  • Chris Tucker

    11/25/2009 1:11:54 AM |

    I am going to start taking 4000 IU a day of Vitamin D3 for my Rosacea.

  • DeBorah Beatty

    1/29/2010 7:08:27 AM |

    My doctor wants me to take 10,000 units a day of Vitamin D. But where can I find any in mega doses so I can avoid spending my entire day taking Vitamin D? So far, can't find anything higher than 400 units.

  • Elise P

    1/29/2010 3:02:21 PM |

    I've been buying 5,000 IU caps at vitacost.com for about $17 for 365.

    They're making them stronger these days so it shouldn't be too hard to find.  Probably vitamin shoppe, GNC, etc. carry them as well.

  • Anna

    1/29/2010 5:19:27 PM |

    DeBorah Beatty,

    More stores are starting to carry higher dose Vit D, but I've noticed the supermarkets and drug stores are lagging behind.  I'm seeing 1000iU and 2000iU doses creeping on to those shelves, but frankly, even with the increasing awareness of the need for more Vit D, the options are still quite limited in these retail establishments (and are too often the tablets, which may be cheaper, but may not absorb as well).  Be sure to ask for the higher doses so the managers who order know people are looking for them.  I also have found the chain supermarkets and drug stores don't necessarily have the best prices or brands.

    When shopping at "brick & mortar" stores, I've had the best luck finding better prices and higher dose Vit D3 (2500-5000+iU) at specialty vitamin businesses (such as Vitamin Shoppe, GNC, and independent vitamin shops) and in the vitamin depts of "health food" and "natural food" grocery stores, such as Whole Foods and similar local chains.

    Online shopping will provide you with the best options for both price and selection.  There are many good options.   Ted Hutchinson's Vit D3 blog (http://vitamind3.blogspot.com/) often lists good online sources and deals on Vit D3 in the higher doses you want.  

    Last year I purchased Bio-Tech 5000iU dose D3 from the Drs Eades Protein Power website (www.proteinpower.com) for a great price ($8 for 100 capsules).  These capsules are a dry-powder in a gel cap (not a hard tablet) and I seem to get just a good a 25(OH)D result as when taking an oil gelcap.  The bottles are small and light-weight, so they don't take up much storage or packaging room.  For the same shipping cost as 1 bottle, I bought 10 or 11 bottles before going to a high shipping price - enough D3 for a year for myself (I take 5000iu daily) and some to send to my MIL and SIL in London.  The Eades' Protein Power site also sells Bio-Tech's D3 in 50,000iU (that's equivalent to the Rx dose) capsules, 12 qty for $18, which is a good way to get a low 25(OH)D up fast.

  • Anonymous

    2/4/2010 1:08:09 PM |

    My 2 year old and I had the same experience with taking larger amounts of Vitamin D and staying well while exposed to sickness. My husband came home with the Swine flu a few months ago. I was 7 weeks pregnant at the time. My Dr. told me to take Tamiflu immediately. I was concerned about taking a Cat C drug while pregnant so, instead I started to take around 10,000 IU of Vitamin D. My daughter took about 5,000 IU (cherry chew-ables). We got the common cold out of it but we never got a fever above 98.8 and that only lasted 1.5 days. My husband was out for days and the two people who, theoretically have the lower immune systems stayed well! I owe it all to taking Vitamin D. We continue to take it daily to prevent getting any flu that comes around, especially since I'm more pregnant and I'm not planning on getting my H1N1 vaccine.

  • Anonymous

    2/21/2010 4:43:09 PM |

    I inquired with a Vitamin D researcher regarding megadoses of Vitamin D (e.g. 50,000) and he informed me those are usually D2 not D3, one's slower acting and the other faster acting.  Be sure you're comparing apples to apples.

  • vitamin D

    5/17/2010 5:26:19 AM |

    After read this post I think that it is good to take high dose of vitamin D?

  • hoosierdaddy

    5/17/2010 4:03:20 PM |

    I live at latitude 38.72 just south of Annapolis, MD. On Nov. 10,2009 my 25(OH)D test revealed my D level at 50 ng/ml. I'm a blonde, light skinned, 58 year old male, weight 137, height 5'7".
    Immediately after the test I began to supplement with 10,000 IU D3 per day in addition to the 400 IU in my multivitamin. I took this high-D3 dosage every day through the winter and on March 19,2010 my 25(OH)D test revealed my result as 64 ng/ml. On this date I decreased my D3 to 5,000 IU per day (+ 400 IU from multi) and intend to stay at that dosage until my next test, which I plan to take in mid August. I do not sunbathe and I go swimming maybe once a week. I get an average amount of exposure during the warm months while mowing the lawn and just going outdoors to go to the store or walking my dogs.
    I also get 1,000 mg of calcium and 500 mg magnesium per day - my calcium level is 2.45 mmol/L and my total cholesterol is 147 mg/dL. I do not follow any speial diet other than eating everything in moderation and balancing veggies, fruits, grains, meats and seafoods. I do however avoid trans-fats and instead use coconut and palm oils as well as butter and olive oils. I also supplement with a complete EFA and 1200 mg of Lecithin daily.
    I hope this helps others make a determination where to start with their high dose D3 supplementation.

  • Maddy

    6/22/2010 2:45:55 AM |

    Dr. Davis,
    I am 21 years old and have a level of vitamin D of 25. My doctor told me that was very low and put me on 2 pills a week of 50,000 units of supplements and also 5,000 units a day. Is this normal or safe? I just really need a second opinion because I feel like it is a lot.

    Thanks, Maddy

  • jfwysong

    9/14/2010 1:22:53 AM |

    I had low D (14).  My doc put me on 50000/mo (D2??).  After 2+ years, little effect.  Found www.vitamindcouncil.org and got educated.  For every 1000iu (D3) intake, you should see a 7-10 ng/ml serum increase.  So I started (again) at 18ng/ml and am taking an extra 5000iu/day.  It is all going as expected.  After 6 months I am up to 38ng/ml.  On the liver enzyme issue, I drink alcohol and have noticed NORMAL enzyme levels now after my D3 intake...even when drinking the night BEFORE my blood test.  Interesting.  Hope this helps somebody.....

  • Anonymous

    9/15/2010 2:59:02 PM |

    Here's my experience regarding testing:

    I test my D3 level twice a year, at the end of winter (April) and the end of summer (October) and then adjust the amount of D3 I take depending on the results.

    Living in a northern state (WIS) and getting outdoors in shirtsleeves in the summer a lot, I find that I need about 5,000 IU in the winter months and 1,000 IU in the summer months to maintain a level around 70 ng/ml.

    So far, I've tested four times over two years and I may adjust both the summer dose and the winter dose just a bit after another year of tests, but I think I'm homing in on the amount I need. Everyone is different and everyone should attempt similar testing, in my opinion. Each test costs about $70 and I pay it myself.

    Side note: It's also supposed to help with psoriasis. For 25 years or so, I've had a psoriasis-like itching/redness develop almost monthly in my moustache and hairline that one application of Head & Shoulders would bring under control for about a month. Obviously it's not a serious case of psoriasis. Nevertheless, I started the vit D3 supplementation three years ago and haven't used the Head & Shoulders since.

  • Anonymous

    10/21/2010 6:10:38 AM |

    So is a vitamin d level of 85 ng/mL something to worry about? Should one continue taking 2000 IU a day of vitamin d3?

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    11/3/2010 3:05:29 PM |

    -Young people (not older people >40 years old, who have lost most of the capacity to activate vitamin D in the skin) who obtain several days to weeks of tropical sun typically have 25-hydroxy vitamin D blood levels of 80-100 ng/ml without adverse effect.

  • Helen BC

    12/26/2010 5:37:29 PM |

    Fall 2009 I had done 25(OH) D-test which revealed my D level at 32 ng/ml (36 y/o Female). My “old school “doctor told me that there is a little that I can do about it since we live in Canada and during Fall/Winter we have almost no exposure to sun. I was not satisfied with answer that there is little that we can do and did some research on line about it.
    As of today I am taking about 15,000 IU/day of D3 (3 tiny gel pills – Spring Valley brand @ Wal-Mart $6.00 per 100 pills) and my D level is barely 45 ng/ml.
    I am also working with public at Major International Airport, so we are constantly exposed disease (like TB, HEP-C, N1H1 on daily basis). First year working I managed to get Kidney infection, 3x cold, 1x flue and  weeks long cough. Now I am working with gloves and when I am feeling that I may get flu I will double dosage to 30,000 IU/Day + 400 IU Ginseng. In 2010 I was not sick all.
    I must say I can see Significant improvement on my skin (suffering from Psoriasis). Also good prevention for breast, colon cancer, hypoglycemia and development of Type 1 Diabetes that is in my family history.
    However, since some articles suggesting that high dosage of D3 may assist with weight lost finding difficult locate this bottle (5,000 IU) and be available on shelf, but I can order it on-line from Wal-Mart at any time.

  • Anonymous

    1/8/2011 12:22:41 AM |

    I'm 32 weeks pregnant and when my doctor heard that I am supplementing with vitamin D3, she was very concerned and advised against it. I had my D3 levels checked about a month ago and they were 25 ng/mL, which makes me vitamin D3 deficient. I had been taking 4000 IU of vitamin D3 for about 3 months by then, and decided to take 6000 IU from that day on, because I was concerned that 4000 IU is too low for me and that my baby and that I needed more so that my D3 levels could reach the optimum of 50-80 ng/mL). In the meantime I've read more on the subject because I got a cold and am worried a bit about the flu (didn't want to get vaccinated), so now I'm taking 10000 IU/day. Is that too much?! I don't have anyone else to seek advice from, my doctors have no idea about the new research and would freak out if I told them how much I'm taking. Smile I plan to breastfeed and I want to do what's best for my baby... 4000 IU was obviously not an adequate dose for me since after 3 months of taking it my levels were 25 ng/mL, right? Thank you in advance. Smile

  • Elise P

    1/11/2011 2:28:30 AM |

    Anonymous,
    I took 3000 while pregnant and my level was 52, but I had been taking that level for a while before I became pregnant - not sure how long you've been supplementing.  Anyway, my advice to you would be to find a doctor who is well versed in vitamin d supplementation (call around or search the internet) and is willing to help you monitor your levels, and you could keep your current doctor as well (I'm assuming the one you're referring to is your OB).  Also, get retested now to make sure your levels are really that low, as lab results are sometimes wrong.  I don't know if it was the vitamin d, but after I started taking it I was able to get pregnant, had an uneventful pregnancy and vaginal birth - (no need to be induced).  I've had a couple of colds that were over more quickly than they used to be, but no flu.  My son who is now 1 1/2 takes about 1200 IU's of D - they come in drops that are easy to mix in food.  He's had one short cold that lasted for 24 hours and roseola but no flu and bounced right back. Vitamin D has helped us so much but it doesn't mean you'll never get sick - a lot less and a lot less severe though.  If you're getting leg cramps at night, try pickle juice. Good luck!

  • Benjamin

    2/25/2011 2:12:57 PM |

    Brilliant blog.

    More people need to be aware theat suggested doagsages are often well short of the mark.

    A recent publication suggestes that doses of 4000-8000 IU are required daily to amintain optimal levels.

    check out the study, and video here:
    http://www.timeforwellness.org/blog-view/you-need-a-lot-more-vitamin-d-than-you-think-178

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