Super size me in little bits and pieces



Alvin came into the office for consultation on his cholesterol values: LDL 198 mg/dl, HDL, 43 mg/dl, triglycerides 143 mg/dl. He says that he doesn't really try to choose healthy foods but he restricts his overall calorie intake by following the Weight Watcher's exchange approach.

Every morning, 7 days a week, Alvin eats a Sausage McMuffin for breakfast. He justified this by skipping lunch to make up for the 450 calories in the Sausage McMuffin, and not eating anything until dinner.

Can this work? Can you eat foods with unhealthy ingredients but make up the excessive calories by cutting back elsewhere?

The nutritional composition of McDonald's Sausage McMuffin includes 27 grams of total fat (10 gm saturated); 255 mg cholesterol; 950 mg sodium; 31 gm carbohydrate; 2 grams fiber. In other words, it's essentially the same as butter with sugar on it--pure fat, processed wheat, with little fiber or nutritive value.

For Alvin, this is an extremely unhealthy way to eat. His lipid patterns are just the tip of the iceberg: multiple hidden factors are also at work to create heart disease, atherosclerosis in other territories outside the heart, diabetes, high blood pressure, and cancer.

I think the effects are not much different than what Morgan Spurlock achieved in his Super Size Me documentary, but in little bits and pieces. Eating at McDonald's "restaurants" three times a day yielded frightening changes in his lipids, liver function, kidney function, not to mention his appearance and the way he felt. Alvin is doing the same thing, though in less dramatic fashion.

I see this very frequently: people mimicking the experience of Spurlock, just a little at a time, with overindulgence in processed fats and starches.

When you seen a set of Mcdonald's golden arches (or any fast food restaurant, for that matter), run as fast as you can in the other direction. Such indulgences, even in small bits and pieces, still creates a mess of your health.

View from the precipice


Many people, upon first learning of their CT heart scan score, feel like they're on the edge of a sharp drop. It can feel like you're facing a vast, unknown abyss. At the bottom, all those dreaded things that can happen to you: heart attack, heart failure, hospitals, even dying.

I've encountered this "deer in the headlights" look many times. It truly can be frightening to hear that your heart scan score is 300, or 500, or whatever.

What I find truly frightening, however, is when your score prompts the usual array of misinformation commonly dispensed by physicians: "That's so bad you need a heart catheterization", "Nobody knows why people get calcified plaque", or "Reversal is impossible". All absolute bunk.

Let your fear motivate you to do something about your risk for heart disease. Aim for reversal of your coronary plaque and seek out the tools to achieve this. It is possible and, in fact, we do it all the time. I can't claim 100% success, but the majority of people who engage in an effort like the Track Your Plaque program to reverse coronary plaque succeed. Even a substantial slowing of plaque growth from the expected 30% per year is better than submitting to the conventional approach.

At the very least, get both LDL and HDL cholesterol around 60 mg/dl. This alone is a major plus in reducing the risks associated with your heart scan score. It doesn't guaranteee reversal, but it sure tips the odds in your favor.

Organic Rice Krispies?



Breakfast cereal manufacturing giant, Kelloggs, is launching a line of three cereals that will carry the "organic" designation: Organic Rice Krispies, Organic Raisin Bran, and Organic Frosted Mini-Wheats.

This reminds me of the advertisements I've seen for "fresh fried chicken", or "fresh from the can", or "contains only pure cane sugar". How about organic tobacco? Would that make cigarettes healthier?

The TV ad ends with the slogan "Childood is calling!" Oh, those marketers are a shrewd, clever bunch. I worry that they're so clever that most people will fall for these ludicrous tricks.

Don't fall for these thinly-shrouded marketing shenanigans. Organic? Who cares. These foods remain unhealthy whether or not they contain pesticide residues. Take a look at the nutritional composition: Rice Krispies, organic or not, is sugar to your body. It is the sort of food that creates pre-diabetes, diabetes, makes us fat, and fans the flames of lipoprotein patterns like small LDL, VLDL, and postprandial particles, all of which is like throwing cow manure on the weed patch of your coronary plaque.

Nuts as functional foods

Food manufacturers gave nuts a bad name when they started adding evil ingredients to them. "Party mix", "honey-roasted", mixed nuts, etc., are made with added hydrogenated oils, salt, sugar, excessive quantities of raisins, or other added ingredients that turned a healthy food--nuts--into something that made us fat and hypertensive, raised LDL, dropped HDL, and raised blood pressure.

But nuts themselves are, for the most part, very healthy foods. The very best are nuts with a brown fiber coating like almonds, walnuts, and pecans. Nearly all nuts also come rich in monounsaturated oils similar to that in olive oil. Although calorie-dense, nuts tend to be very filling and slash your appetite for other foods. I have never seen anyone gain weight by adding raw nuts to their diet. In fact, I find adding raw nuts cuts craving for sweets.

Nuts are also among the most concentrated sources of magnesium, containing around 150 mg per 1/2 cup serving. As most Americans are at least marginally if not severely deficient in magnesium, this really helps. Magnesium deficiency is a prominent aspect of "metabolic syndrome" and resistance to insulin.




Some nuts have added benefits like the l-arginine content of almonds or the linolenic acid content of walnuts. However, I think the real health "punch" comes from the fiber and monounsaturate content.

Add 1/4-1/2 cup of raw almonds, walnuts, or pecans per day to your diet and what can you expect? The effects that I see every day that are relevant to plaque control/heart scan score-reducing efforts include:

--Reduction in LDL--usually a 20 mg/dl drop, sometimes more.

--Reduction in triglycerides, especially if nuts replace processed carbohydrate calories. This may be because the fiber and monounsaturate content of nuts reduces blood sugar and the effective glycemic index of any accompanying foods.

--Modest blood pressure reduction.

--Though somewhat inconsistent, partial suppression of the dreaded small LDL particle pattern. We struggle with turning off the small LDL pattern in some people, and raw nuts can provide a real advantage.

If that isn't enough, the fiber content also makes your bowels regular.

Unless there's some reason to avoid nuts (e.g., allergy), nuts should be a part of your heart scan score reducing program. Shop around, as prices can vary wildly. I've been paying $12.99 for a 3 lb bag of raw almonds from Sam's Club, though I've seen almonds elsewhere for up to $12.99 per pound.

For additional commentary, go to one of my favorite Blogs, http://fanaticcook.blogspot.com. The Fanatic Cook's recent post, The Season for Walnuts , provides additional discussion on walnuts and the recent study showing how they improve "endothelial function". The nutritionist behind this Blog has fabulous insights into food, including the concept of "functional foods", i.e., using foods as a treatment tool. She is also unfailingly entertaining.

Can you tell the difference?

Stan is 55 years old. He feels fine, is in moderately good physical condition. His LDL cholesterol is 135 mg/dl, HDL 43 mg/dl, triglycerides 167 mg/dl, total cholesterol 211 mg/dl.

Can you tell me whether Stan has heart disease or not?

How about Charles? Charles has an LDL cholesterol of 127 mg/dl, HDL of 44 mg/dl, triglycerides of 98 mg/dl, and total cholesterol of 191 mg/dl. He is also reasonably fit and feels fine. Can you tell whether Charles has heart disease?

If you can't, don't feel bad. Neither can your doctor. But this is the folly of using cholesterol for risk prediction.

Stan's heart scan score: 0

Charles' heart scan score: 978

Look even more closely at Stan's and Charles' cholesterol numbers. Is there some fine distinction we overlooked? What if we calculated total cholesterol to HDL ratio? Or LDL/HDL ratio?

No matter how you squeeze it, shake it, beat it with a stick, you simply cannot use cholesterol numbers to predict heart disease in specific individuals. Yes, the higher your LDL cholesterol and lower your HDL, the higehr your total cholesterol to HDL ratio, the greater the likelihood of heart disease. But you can simply cannot tell in a specific individual at a specific point in time. If you've seen your doctor puzzle over the numbers, understand that he/she is trying to make sense out of something that doesn't make sense, no matter how hard he/she tries.

You simply need to measure the disease itself: get a CT heart scan, the only measure of atherosclerotic coronary plaque that you have access to.

By the way, if you haven't seen it yet, go to the Track Your Plaque website (www.cureality.com) to see the news piece reporting the American Heart Association's much overdue position statement on CT heart scanning. The AHA has finally released a statement which, in effect, provides their "official" endorsement. Blocked by political shenanigans behind the scenes for several years, the guidelines finally made it to press. The only real difference it makes to me is that my patients may finally get their heart scans paid for by insurance, once the insurance companies realize that it's getting tougher and tougher to dodge their responsibility.

Statin agents and muscle aches

How common are muscle aches with the statin drugs?

It depends on who you ask. If you ask the drug manufacturers, they will tell you no more than 2% of people who take them. They back this up with the experience in tens of thousands of people in published clinical trials.

What if we ask people who take them outside of clinical trials. How many then? I estimate, from my large experience, over 80%! In other words, muscle aches are inevitable in nearly everyone who takes them. The longer you take them, the higher your dose, the more likely muscle aches are going to be.

Why the disconnect between published data and real-world experience? I really don't know. In some instances, the differences are dramatic. The ASTEROID trial, for instance, in which Crestor, 40 mg, was given for two years, only resulted in 8% of people dropping out because of side-effects. My experience: everybody--nobody can tolerate this dose for any length of time.

Let me qualify what "muscle aches" mean. It means achiness and/or weakness, usually mild, occasionally moderate to severe, worse upon awakening and less with use. It can affect many muscles or it can involve only one. Rarely is it incapacitating but it is commonly annoying and frightening. It commonly shows up as gradually diminishing strength with exercise. Strength usually returns promptly upon stopping the offending drug.

"Rhabdomyolysis", or true muscle destruction is, fortunately, very unusual in otherwise well people. People with abnormal kidney function, diabetes, and other concurrent illnesses are somewhat more prone. But in reality, rhabdomyolysis is unusual. I've personally seen it twice, both in people sick for other reasons.

Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) supplementation has been a godsend for us. At least 4 out of 5 people who require statins and develop muscle aches respond favorably, but it requires 100 mg per day. The preparation must be oil-based to work, not powder in a capsule which exerts no effect. Some people get by with less; some require as much as 300 mg per day. I've had favorable experiences with the CoQ10 from Sam's Club, GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, and Life Extension (www.LEF.org).

The Track Your Plaque target for LDL cholesterol is 60 mg/dl. Many people do indeed use statins to achieve this level, the level of LDL that amplifies your chances of heart disease reversal, i.e., reduction of heart scan score. The only drawback that I'm aware of with CoQ10 replacement is cost. Beyond this, it's a benign supplement that even supplies higher energy for some people who take it.

More catheterizations would make me happy!

I received this fax today from a cardiologist seeking a position:

"I would prefer to perform as many interventions [stents, angioplasties, etc.] as possible..."

That about sums it up, doesn't it? The goal of this young man, trained in major universities including Columbia University, Harvard, and Emory, is not to pursue an avenue of investigation or healthcare that yields real answers. His goal is to perform as many procedures as possible.

This attitude is deeply ingrained in cardiologists. It's also shared by all procedural medical specialties: the drive to do more and more procedures. It's not because it does more good for the public, but it fulfills a primitive impulse to spread your influence, enlarge your territory, and--of course--make more money.

Personally, I find this impulse repulsive. The fact that this young cardiologist looking for a position is willing to make this statement out in the open demonstrates how widely accepted this attitude is. Imagine your cancer surgeon, looking for a new job, said, "I'm looking to remove as many tumors as I can."

My colleagues have lost sight of the fact that we're trying to reduce or eliminate disease, not enrich our pockets or service some primitive impulse to beat others at our game.

"I hate fish oil!"

I get this comment occasionally, usually from the fishy belching that can occur, rarely because of other crazy effects like rash, fishy body odor, etc.

In the vast majority, fish oil is a benign but wonderfully effective agent. Track Your Plaque followers know that fish oil, starting at 4000 mg per day of a standard 1000 mg capsule preparation, dramatically reduces triglycerides and thereby raises HDL, partially suppresses small LDL, and is the best agent available for reducing postprandial (after eating) abnormalities like IDL and certain VLDL fractions.

However, an occasional person (about 1 in 20) just doesn't like the effects. Are there alternatives? Fish oil packs such a wallop of beneficial effects that can not be replaced by any other single agent or lifestyle practice. For this reason, we have a number of easy strategies to enhance your tolerance for fish oil. (Of course, if your and/or you doctor determine that you're allergic to fish oil, then you should indeed avoid it; thankfully, this is rare.)

Helpful strategies include:

--Refrigerate fish oil capsules--this cuts back on fish belching.
--Take only with meals. This also may increase fish oil's benefits on suppressing after-eating lipoprotein abnormalities.
--Take an enteric-coated preparation--this delays breakdown of the tablet/capsule, making fishy belching less of an issue. Sam's Club has an inexpensive preparation.
--Take liquid fish oil. Usually orange or lemon flavored, liquid fish oil may be a faint fishy taste and odor, but usually not as prominent as the capsules. There's also less stomach upset.
--Coromega--a paste form of fish oil available at health food stores or through http://www.coromega.com. Coromega tastes fruity and comes in little squeeze envelopes.
--Frutol--Pharmax, a British company, makes another fruity fish oil that is non-oily and tastes like apricot. It's actually fairly reasonably priced, too. However, it is hard to find. The only way I know to get is to go online at www.pharmaxllc.com. You may have to actually order through a health care provider.

When using any preparation of fish oil, the best way to determine your dose is to add up the EPA and DHA content. For instance, if you use a fish oil liquid that contains 320 mg EPA and 240 mg DHA per teaspoon, you will need two teaspoons a day to achieve the equivalent of our starting dose of 1200 mg of EPA+DHA, usually provided by 4000 mg total in 4 capsules. Note that some lipid and lipoprotein disorders will require higher doses, e.g., 1800 mg EPA+DHA for high triglycerides (>200 mg/dl) or high IDL.

Sudden death in athletes

A recent report in the Journal of the American Medical Association details how a group in the Veneto region of Italy cut back on the incidence of sudden cardiac death in athletes by a simple screening program.



You can read the abstract of the article at http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/296/13/1593.

Although sudden death in athletes is still a rare event, it is especially tragic when it happens. In this population, the incidence was 3.6 deaths per 100,000 athletes aged 12 to 35 years. By implementing a simple screening program that involved only a physical examination and an EKG, an astounding 89% reduction in sudden death was documented.

What lessons does this hold for those of us interested in coronary plaque reversal? Beyond the obvious lesson of pointing out the great benefit of simple screening of athletes, I believe that it tells us the value of simple screening tools for heart disease in general. It is my strong belief that, if we were to implement CT heart scans among the broad population of men 40 years and over, women 50 years and over--without regard to cholesterol or other relatively lame risk identifiers--we could slash the risk for heart attack and death 90% or more. Putting CT heart scans into the hands of the public makes your coronary risk obvious. It takes the guesswork out of risk predictors like cholesterol and high blood pressure.

But heart scans are already available, you say! Yes, of course they are. But the lack of insurance reimbursement continues to be a restricting factor for many people, despite the number of lives that could be potentially saved and the money that would be saved in the long run by reducing need for major heart procedures. The continuing resistance to prevention by my cardiology colleagues and the persistent ignorance of primary care physicians also remain major impediments.

But it's getting better. You don't have to be chained by ignorance. Put your CT heart scan to good use.

My heart scan was wrong!



Tom came into the office ready for a confrontation.

Tom's wife insisted that he see me to discuss the implications of his CT heart scan score of 459. At age 50, this was clearly bad news that placed Tom in the 99th percentile (worst 1% of men in his age group).

But Tom had already undergone a stress test. There had apparently been a small abnormality, and a heart catheterization had been performed by another cardiologist. "They told me they didn't need to do anything. No stent, no ballon, no bypass, nothing!"

I asked, "Did they tell you that there was any plaque or blockages seen?"

"Yeah, but he said it was nothing. So the heart scan was wrong!"

I've been here many times before. I explained to Tom that, no, his heart scan was not wrong. All the tests he'd undergone siimply provided a different perspective on the same disease. You could say:

--The stress test, being a test of blood flow, may have been abnormal because of the abnormal constrictive behavior of arteries containing plaque, known as "endothelial dysfunction", because the inner lining of arteries (the endothelium) control the tone of the artery. Abnormal constriction in arteries with plaque is quite common.

--The catheterization simply showed that no plaque had collected in a configuration to block flow, thus no stent, etc., since flow was normal. But there was indeed plaque.

All three tests were right; none were wrong. They all provided a little different perspective on the same process. Of course, I favor the heart scan as the means to identify, precisely measure, and track the atherosclerotic plaque in your arteries. The stress test is too crude and only measures flow, the catheterization is not something you'd want to undergo year after year. Catheterization also is too crude a measure to precisely track plaque growth or reversal.

So I explained to Tom that, even though a stent or similar procedure was unnecessary, he remained at substantial risk for heart attack due to plaque "rupture". In fact, Tom's heart attack risk was 5% per year, or approximately 50% over the next decade. That is, indeed, substantial. In fact, you might say that, of the three tests Tom underwent, only the heart scan revealed his true risk.
CIS: Carbohydrate intolerance syndrome

CIS: Carbohydrate intolerance syndrome

Carbohydrate intolerance comes in many shades and colors, shapes and sizes.

I call all of its varieties the Carbohydrate Intolerance Syndrome, or CIS. (Not to be confused with CSI, or Crime Scene Investigation . . . though, come to think of it, perhaps there are some interesting parallels!)

At its extreme, it is called type II diabetes, in which any carbohydrate generates an extravant increase in blood sugar, followed by the domino effect of increased triglycerides, reduction in HDL, creation of small LDL, heightened inflammation, etc. and eventually to kidney disease, coronary atherosclerosis, neuropathies, etc.

An intermediate form of carbohydrate intolerance is called metabolic syndrome, or pre-diabetes. These people, for the most part, look and act like diabetics, though their reaction to carbohydrate intake is not as bad. Blood sugar, for instance, might be 125 mg/dl fasting, 160 mg/dl after eating. The semi-arbitrary definition of metabolic syndrome includes at least three of the following: HDL <40 mg/dl in men, <50 mg/dl in women; triglycerides 150 mg/dl or greater; BP 135/80 or greater; waist circumference >40 inches in men, >35 inches in women; fasting glucose >100 mg/dl.

This is where the conventional definitions stop: Either you are diabetic or have metabolic syndrome, or you have nothing at all.

Unfortunately, this means that the millions of people with patterns not severe enough to match the standard definition of metabolic syndrome are often neglected.

How about Kevin?

Kevin, a 56 year old financial planner, is 5 ft 7 inches, 180 lbs (BMI 28.2). His basic measures:

HDL 36 mg/dl
Triglycerides 333 mg/dl

BP 132/78
Waist circumference 34 inches
Blood sugar 98 mg/dl

Kevin meets the criteria for metabolic syndrome on only two of the five criteria and therefore does not "qualify" for the diagnosis.

Kevin's basic lipids showed LDL 170 mg/dl, HDL 36 mg/dl, triglycerides 333 mg/dl.

But take a look at his underlying lipoprotein patterns (NMR):

LDL particle number 2231 nmol/L (equivalent to a "true" LDL of 223 mg/dl)
Small LDL 1811 nmol/l
Large HDL 0.0 mg/dl


In other words, small LDL constitutes 81% of all LDL particles (1811/2231), a severe pattern. Large HDL is the healthy, protective fraction and Kevin has none. These are high-risk patterns for heart disease. These, too, are patterns of carbohydrate intolerance.

Foods that trigger small LDL and reduction in healthy, large HDL include sugars, wheat, and cornstarch. Kevin is carbohydrate-intolerant, although he lacks the (fasting) blood sugar aspect of carbohydrate intolerance. But he shows all the underlying lipoprotein and other metabolic phenomena associated with carbohydrate intolerance.

We could also cast all three conditions under the umbrella of "insulin resistance." But I prefer Carbohydrate Intolerance Syndrome, or CIS, since it immediately suggests the basic underlying cause: eating carbohydrates, especially those that trigger rapid and substantial surges in blood sugar.

CIS is the Disease of the Century, judging by the figures (both numbers and humans) we are seeing. It will dominate healthcare in its various forms for many years to come.

The first treatment for the Carbohydrate Intolerance Syndrome? Some would say the TZD class of drugs like Avandia. Others would say a DASH or TLC (American Heart Association) diet. How about liposuction, twice-daily Byetta injections, or even the emerging class of drugs to manipulate leptin and adiponectin? How do "heart healthy" foods like Cheerios and Cocoa Puffs fit into this? (Don't believe me? The American Heart Association says they're heart healthy!)

The first treatment for the Carbohydrate Intolerance Syndrome is elimination of carbohydrates, except those that come from raw nuts and seeds, vegetables, occasional real fruit (not those green fake grapes), wine, and dark chocolates.

Comments (28) -

  • Sarah

    1/28/2009 2:45:00 PM |

    What's a "fake grape"?

  • Anonymous

    1/28/2009 4:19:00 PM |

    Do you think instant oats, or rolled oats, are ok?

    How about grits?  

    A Southerner trying to find something to replace cheerios or bagel for breakfast!  Already gave up eggs and bacon!

  • Anonymous

    1/28/2009 6:19:00 PM |

    "green fake grapes"
    - can you expand on this or provide a link to another blog entry that explains what is wrong with these? Thanks.

  • Diana Hsieh

    1/29/2009 1:09:00 AM |

    Anonymous -- Why give up eggs and bacon?  Reducing carbs requires increasing fat intake -- and contrary to the conventional wisdom, that's a good thing for your health.  (See Gary Taubes' _Good Calories, Bad Calories_.)

  • Anonymous

    1/29/2009 1:43:00 AM |

    Green grapes:  negligible amounts of reversatol.

    AJL

  • Anonymous

    1/29/2009 2:30:00 AM |

    Yes, I'd like to know if carbs like whole, cooked oat groats and/or wild rice are okay on TYP?  These are the only grains my cardiologist allows on his program.

    Also, what about oat bran, both cooked and uncooked?

    And lastly, ground flax seed?

    madcook

  • Anne

    1/29/2009 3:06:00 AM |

    Anonymous ~ bring back the eggs. add some veges and cheese and that makes a great breakfast. When I eat bacon I buy the stuff without the nitrites. My breakfast often looks like my dinner - lots of low carb veges and protein.

    I am a Southerner and grits are too high carb for me - shoots my blood sugar up to 200. Yup, I have CIS or maybe it is T2DM. Whatever I have, keeping my carbs low seems to be working well.

  • Anonymous

    1/29/2009 4:05:00 AM |

    what's a fake grape?

  • Anna

    1/29/2009 7:59:00 AM |

    Salmon is great for breakfast, either leftover from dinner or cured salmon (gravlax).  So is a salami and cheese plate now and then, for variety.  Breakfast doesn't have to be sweet or  grainy, if one can get out of that mindset.  

    Avocado omelet, sausage (make 2-3 days worth at one time and reheat), baked custard, smoothies.  There are all sorts of great non-grain breakfasts.

  • Grapes of wrath

    1/29/2009 12:22:00 PM |

    Can't say I have heard of fake grapes, well maybe the plastic ones.

  • keith

    1/29/2009 1:17:00 PM |

    fake grapes are seedless green grapes that are effectively candy. fruit with seeds that are close to the way they occurred in nature before we mass produced them are healthier.

  • Dr. William Davis

    1/29/2009 2:19:00 PM |

    Madcook--

    All are fine, with little rise in blood sugar except for the oat products, which can raise blood sugar in very carb-sensitive people.

    Ground flaxseed is the very best, with pure protein, oils (including linolenic acid), and fiber but with no digestible starches.

  • Anonymous

    1/29/2009 3:37:00 PM |

    This blog is great, that's why I added it to my top ten health blogs. www.mydailywellnesstip.com

    Jean-Luc Boissonneault

  • Frederick

    1/29/2009 7:01:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    I recently received some curious results on my blood panels and am curious for your feedback. I am sorry to trouble you with my personal story but am not sure where else to go for info. I appreciate any help you can provide, in addition to what you have already done with this blog, which is a terrific resource.

    In May 2007 my blood panel looked like this:

    Total cholesterol 155
    Trigylcerides 65
    HDL 50
    LDL (calc) 92

    In Jan 2009 I received the following:

    Total cholesterol 311!
    Trigylcerides 43
    HDL 88
    LDL (calc) 214!

    I am currently 41, athletic, do high intensity short duration exercise 3-4 times/wk, low body fat, fairly good health. I changed my diet in Jan 2008 from a standard "healthy" diet to paleo style after reading Cordain's book. I followed Cordain's recommendations fairly closely for about six months, eating lots of fruits and veggies, lean meat (trimming the fat), very few starches, and nuts seeds avocados, olive oil, etc. In summer I began reading some blogs and books which recommended a diet higher in sat fats, lower in protein and lower in PUFAs, so I made some changes by severely limiting PUFAs (no more nuts, less fatty chicken and pork) and eating fattier red meat, coconut oil. I also cut down on veggies and fruits and added starches and white rice.

    While I would consider myself a little skeptical about the meaning of cholesterol tests, I am by no means an expert and was amazed by the increase in cholesterol and am very curious what this means and why. I understand that some of the numbers here (e.g. total cholesterol) don't mean much, that some of the numbers (e.g. hdl/tris ratio) are good, that LDL calc is often inaccurate, and that based on my low tris, my LDL is likely to be large and fluffy instead of small and dense. But I am still amazed by the rise and curious what it means. Should I be concerned? Why did this happen so fast? Thanks again for any guidance you can provide.

  • Dr. William Davis

    1/29/2009 10:33:00 PM |

    Frederick--

    While I don't make a habit out of responding to personal questions (because they would overwhelm time demands), your changes are quite profound.

    However, there are a number of underlying processes that could account for such a change. One solution would be to obtain lipoprotein analysis to see what the true, underlying patterns are, e.g., what is measured LDL?

    Also, consider thyroid issues.

    Also consider consulting the Track Your Plaque program, in which these discussions are conducted in detail every day.

  • Anna

    1/29/2009 11:13:00 PM |

    Frederick,

    While my numbers are not exactly the same as yours (past and present), they show a similar trend since I have adopted a more paleo-oriented diet, starting about 5 years ago.  The main difference is that I am female, 47 yo (not menopausal yet, and I wouldn't call myself athletic.  I really haven't been worried about the lab numbers, though they raise my endocrinologists eyebrows.  I had my first coronary calcium scan in Dec '08 and my score was 0, no evidence of coronary artery plaque.

    Have you had a coronary calcium scan yet?  That should tell you if your coronary arteries are building plaque or not.  And of course, the detailed analysis of your lipoproteins needs to be done, too, as Dr.Davis mentioned.  

    Keep in mind, the vast majority of the studies and references for  "good" or "bad" lab results in "Westernized" people come from people who *don't* eat paleo.  So there really isn't much of a comparison data base for those Westerners who eat paleo.  Peter at Hyperlipid blog has some discussion of this "lack of comparison data issue".

  • Anonymous

    1/30/2009 4:49:00 AM |

    Frederick,

    Please join us over on the Track Your Plaque membership website.  We routinely discuss issues such as yours, there is a wealth of information there beyond Dr. Davis' book, and we are a friendly, supportive, and well informed group.

    That aside, it appears you have gotten standard blood testing.  Please get an NMR lipoprofile, Berkeley or VAP test done... you will learn so much more.

    You were eating Paleo, but then you've cut out nuts and I see this little kicker: " I also cut down on veggies and fruits and added starches and white rice."  Hummmm... that is definitely not Paleo anymore, and if you are indeed carb sensitive, those additions could completely tip the cart and put you where you appear to be now.

    And I see that Dr. Davis has mentioned thyroid issues... get your doctor to test for those.  You are now "of an age" where these issues begin to express themselves.

    If you have not had one, go get a heart scan.  You will then know where you stand with regard to plaque formation.  BTW, I am talking about a simple heart scan, not the whiz bang 64-slice thing with the big dose of radiation.  Knowledge is power in this regard.

    I have no affiliation with Dr. Davis nor Track Your Plaque, other than as a very satisfied member/subscriber for the past several years.  I would feel alone and bewildered by such issues, were it not for TYP, which is IMO the most cutting edge program available.

    Good luck to you in finding answers to your personal situation.

    madcook

  • Nameless

    1/30/2009 9:25:00 PM |

    Frederick--

    Your rise in LDL... could it simply because you increased saturated fat intake? Your HDL also increased, which would make sense too. And trigs went down.

    Whether or not this is a good thing, I'm not sure. But increased animal fats usually equals higher LDL, higher HDL, lowered trigs (assuming fats replace carb intake).

    Have you measured your C-reactive protein before and after this diet change? I'm curious if saturated fats cause more inflammation, or less.

  • Dr. B G

    1/31/2009 2:12:00 AM |

    Frederick, Diana Hsieh:

    I don't worry about your LDL -- again it is a faulty inaccurate measure as Dr. D talked about in the 'Tale of Two LDL's post.

    Your TGs are Excellent!!

    Your HDLS totally ROCK and are the envy of anyone who knows anything about heart disease (or cancer).

    If you NMR'd or VAP'd your particles -- you would find that they are ALL Large, nice fluffy PHAT buoyant particles (just like Jimmy Moore's who has a similar diet/lifestyle as you two -- no grains, low carb, mod prot, mod-high fat and exercise).

    Likewise, you'll likely find that your HDL2b which are the regressive particles and necessary for optimal longevity and health will be stunning and awesome.

    Keep up the strong work and let us know if you get a particle count and density evaluated (~$99).

    -G

  • Dr. B G

    1/31/2009 2:12:00 AM |

    Frederick, Diana Hsieh:

    I don't worry about your LDL -- again it is a faulty inaccurate measure as Dr. D talked about in the 'Tale of Two LDL's post.

    Your TGs are Excellent!!

    Your HDLS totally ROCK and are the envy of anyone who knows anything about heart disease (or cancer).

    If you NMR'd or VAP'd your particles -- you would find that they are ALL Large, nice fluffy PHAT buoyant particles (just like Jimmy Moore's who has a similar diet/lifestyle as you two -- no grains, low carb, mod prot, mod-high fat and exercise).

    Likewise, you'll likely find that your HDL2b which are the regressive particles and necessary for optimal longevity and health will be stunning and awesome.

    Keep up the strong work and let us know if you get a particle count and density evaluated (~$99).

    -G

  • Anonymous

    1/31/2009 9:05:00 PM |

    Frederick-

    I think your changes are a simple result of "added starches and white rice".
    As you can see from this post from Dr. Davis just days ago, lipid levels can change dramatically and quickly with the added starches.


    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/making-sense-out-of-lipid-changes.html

  • Trinkwasser

    2/2/2009 6:57:00 PM |

    Here's a big amen! to this post. My FBG is usually under 90 and never over 100. My GTT came back at 193 so "not diabetic" (I've since managed "truly" diabetic numbers by eating on top of a liver dump, but they are unofficial, measured on my own meter.)

    BMI about 22 so not overweight. Fit and active.

    So the ADA calculator still tells me I am at "low risk of diabetes" and that's what doctors have told me all my life despite the most horrendous lipids, including gallstones in my twenties, rising BP, episodes going back 50 years of what I now know to be reactive hypoglycemia (they knock my A1c right down)including ferocious night sweats in childhood. And of course all the other symptoms of diabetes, nocturia, chronic skin infections etc. all blown off because I didn't show that magic FBG rise.

    Curiously all these "neurotic" "hypochondriac" "anxiety" "depression" "pretending to be ill for sympathy" "personality disorder" symptoms have normalised by doing one thing: eating the exact opposite of the "Heart Healthy" diet - so long as I keep carbs to about 60g with the odd excursion to 100g or so I produce better numbers than a lot of "normies".

    Genealogical research shows the family is riddled with "metabolic syndrome" in non-obese people along with other diabetics who were also skinny Type 2s. I don't know how many other families, let alone individuals, have these obvious but not diagnosed type patterns.

    Or how many of them could be so comparatively easily treated.

    Well OK I cheat a bit, an ARB and a statin helps with the BP and LDL but they might not have been necessary if the thing had been caught earlier, or its comparatively slow progression hadn't been speeded up courtesy of the dietician.

    Yes it doesn't take a CSI to diagnose CIS. Just someone who looks at the Big Picture.

    My worst carbohydrate is wheat, spikes my BG about as bad as sugar, I can manage small quantities in the evening though. Fruit is nearly as bad except for berries.

    I shudder at all that healthy muesli I used to shovel into my face for breakfast and swill down with orange juice. I shudder more when I see the dietician's smile of approval.

    I can handle small quantities of oatcakes at breakfast, I favour high protein moderate fat and especially fish and salad, with other meats as a change. I can do ryebread in small quantities by lunchtime. I'd eat eggs if I could stand the taste.

    Carb input goes up on a slope from 15g at breakfast to 30g and sometimes 50g by evening. Masses of veggies, fish, meat, nuts and cheese and the occasional 85% chocolate make up the rest of my diet (oh and the coffee, and red wine, so not entirely paleo).

    None of this came from Medical Professionals in real life, it all came from the interweb and was run past my BG meter. Maybe by the 22nd century it will be mainstream and the Heart Healthy High Carb Low Fat diet will be consigned to the history books as a failed experiment on an entire population.

  • Dr. William Davis

    2/2/2009 10:38:00 PM |

    Trinkwasser--

    Thanks for sharing your wonderfully insightful experience.

    Do I have your permission to feature your comment as the focus of a blog post?

  • Trinkwasser

    2/6/2009 9:07:00 PM |

    You're more than welcome! I like to get my story out as it is a direct opposite of the standard "you made yourself ill through sloth and gluttony" accusation. Big major thanks must go to my late Aunt who did a lot of the genealogical research which discovered the pattern (she was told at 80 she had the blood pressure of a 30 year old, I was the exact opposite!) and died at 88 of an aneurysm: this despite being slightly overweight. So the genes can be survivable so long as we are careful!

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  • Timothy Murphy, MD

    4/18/2009 4:14:00 PM |

    The amazing story of the ascent of the Keys Hypothesis regarding the connection between dietary fat and heart disease is well documented in "Good Calories, Bad Calories", by Gary Taubes.

    As a pediatrician, I do not often counsel about heart disease. But I do deal with obesity in children, and as I am now in my 50's, I am caring more because of my own health.

    The bottom line is that virtually everything we learned about preventing heart disease in medical school is wrong or untested, and an alternative hypothesis has existed that has been largely untested - yet is simpler (and therefore better).

    The role of glucose and insulin in the evolution of obesity and the development of heart disease is finally becoming clear(er), and with the definition of the Metabolic Syndrome, is becoming more "main stream". But the primary drivers of policy (NIH/NHLBI, FDA and ASDA) will not change their recommendations regarding carbohydrate intake.

    It is time for individuals to take charge of their own diet, and the information I have found here is all to the good. I am glad I found this blog.

    TM, Pittsburgh

  • Kelvin

    9/4/2009 12:45:22 PM |

    I am a classic CSI class and after running 5km for 1 1/2 years my blood stayed CSI classic as well, I didn'y follow a good diet but kept my weight down due to excerise - so then it happened - ventricle fibrulation - down for 6 min not breathing while I was shocked and had CPR - had bypass surgery - 46 yrs - read my story google "A hug for his life savers". Following a low card diet now my email is kwillikj@gmail.com

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    Foods that trigger small LDL and reduction in healthy, large HDL include sugars, wheat, and cornstarch. Kevin is carbohydrate-intolerant, although he lacks the (fasting) blood sugar aspect of carbohydrate intolerance. But he shows all the underlying lipoprotein and other metabolic phenomena associated with carbohydrate intolerance.

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