Add Boston Globe to the list of heart scan blunders

Yet another piece of mass media misinformation hit the airwaves today. This time it's not from the New York Times or the LA Times, both of which have previously mangled the issues surrounding heart scans. This time it's from the Boston Globe.

In an article titled What is a calcium scan for heart disease, and who should undergo the test?, the report states:

". . . calcium scans may not be a good idea, or prove terribly useful, for most people. For one thing, the scans expose a patient to significant radiation - equivalent to roughly 50 chest X-rays" said Dr. Warren Manning, chief of noninvasive cardiac imaging at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center."

As many before him, Dr. Manning is confusing two tests: CT coronary angiography and CT heart scanning. Perhaps we can't blame him: This technology has had its weakest following in the northeast, for reasons not entirely clear to me. (In fact, Track Your Plaque followers have had the greatest struggle obtaining heart scans in that part of the country.) Nonetheless, you'd think he'd have his simple facts straight before talking to the press. Unfortunately, hospital public relations departments will usually just grab whoever they can willing to talk to the press--regardless of their expertise or lack of.


The story goes on to say:

. . ." it's not clear what to do with the results from a calcium scan. If you have diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, or a family history of heart disease, you already know - or should know - that you are at increased risk of heart problems and should lower these risk factors. So, a calcium scan provides little additional information," Manning said.

"Moreover, even a high score doesn't necessarily mean that the calcified plaque in your arteries is obstructing blood flow, said Dr. Adolph Hutter, a cardiologist at Massachusetts General Hospital."

"The vast majority of people with high calcium tests don't have obstructions and they do fine long-term. So you'd have to test lots and lots of people to prevent one heart attack or sudden death," said Manning.

And if you get a low calcium score, a sign of little or no calcification of plaques, that's not very useful, either, because it could be wrong, or it could be right but lull you into believing you do not have to exercise and watch your diet, cholesterol, and blood pressure levels. "You can still be at risk even if your calcium test is negative," Hutter said.



It is truly shocking how little many (not all, thank goodness) of my colleagues really know about 1) heart scans, 2) coronary disease prevention, and 3) prevention in general. These same "experts" likely advocate high-dose statin drugs and low-fat diets for people at risk. They likely refer patients to the American Heart Association for diet advice and themselves obtain a lot of information from the pharmaceutical industry. The notion of identification, tracking, and purposeful reversal of coronary plaque is entirely foreign to this bunch.

"The vast majority of people with high calcium tests don't have obstructions and they do fine long-term. So you'd have to test lots and lots of people to prevent one heart attack or sudden death." Well, take a look at a graph from a database of 25,000 people undergoing heart scans then observed for several years afterwards:




You can see quite clearly from the curves that heart scan scores very clearly predict your future (if no preventive action is taken). The higher the score, the greater the likelihood of heart attack and death. How much clearer can it get?

The most recent addition to this literature is the PREDICT study which concluded:

Hazard ratios relative to CACS [coronary artery calcium scores] in the range 0-10 Agatston units (AU) were: CACS 11-100 AU, 5.4 (P = 0.02); 101-400 AU 10.5 (P = 0.001); 401-1000 AU, 11.9 (P = 0.001), and >1000 AU, 19.8 (P < 0.001).

In other words, a heart scan score of >1000 is associated with a 20-fold increased risk of cardiovascular events (without preventive efforts). That kind of predictive power and quantitative confidence simply cannot be squeezed out of blood pressure and cholesterol values.

How about the 2008 University of California-Irvine study from the New England Journal of Medicine (do the northeast docs even pay attention to something that is published in their own neighborhood?) that reported:

There were 162 coronary events, of which 89 were major events (myocardial infarction or death from coronary heart disease). In comparison with participants with no coronary calcium, the adjusted risk of a coronary event was increased by a factor of 7.73 among participants with coronary calcium scores between 101 and 300 and by a factor of 9.67 among participants with scores above 300 (P<0.001 for both comparisons). Among the four racial and ethnic groups, a doubling of the calcium score increased the risk of a major coronary event by 15 to 35% and the risk of any coronary event by 18 to 39%.

How about the Prospective Army Coronary Calcium (PACC) project (men average age 43 years):

"In these men, coronary calcium was associated with an 11.8-fold increased risk for incident coronary heart disease (CHD) (p = 0.002) in a Cox model controlling for the Framingham risk score. Among those with coronary artery calcification, the risk of coronary events increased incrementally across tertiles of coronary calcium severity (hazard ratio 4.3 per tertile)."

Calcium score provided additional information even after factoring in the Framingham risk score.

That's just a sample of the studies. There are a number more.

Add to these conversations the fact that, unlike reducing blood pressure or LDL cholesterol, the heart scan score is a quantification of the disease itself. It can also be tracked over time to gauge the success or failure of prevention efforts. To believe that blood pressure reduction or LDL cholesterol reduction is sufficient to eliminate risk is something only a fool would believe.



Contary to the above statements, the data are clear:

--The higher the heart scan score, the greater the risk. This has been demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt in at least a dozen published studies. In fact, heart scan scores outshine lipid/cholesterol values several-fold.

--A person with a zero score has a nearly zero risk for cardiovascular events over a 5-year timeline.

--Heart scans are the only quantitative test available of coronary atherosclerotic plaque. This means that they can be repeated to gauge progression or regression. Cholesterol does not do that. Stress tests do not do that.

--Heart scans are not the same as CT coronary angiography.

--The lack of "need" for a procedure does not equate to the absence of disease.

The power of heart scans is that they can uncover evidence for coronary atherosclerotic plaque 10 years before a cardiac disaster strikes. Witness Tim Russert's heart scan score of 210 in 1998 at age 48. 10 years later, you know what happened.

Beware the camipaign of misinformation and ignorance that continues that is hell-bent on maintaining the procedural status quo or locking us into a "drugs for all" mentality.

Comments (15) -

  • Anna

    9/17/2008 7:34:00 PM |

    I hate to dump on Northeasterners (I was one for the first 25 years of my life) but perhaps they have greater cognitive difficulties stemming from lack of Vit D & over-statinating?  Can't see the forest for the Framingham trees?

  • rabagley

    9/18/2008 4:46:00 AM |

    Dr. Davis, I think that you well know exactly why those statements are made the way they are Smile  The issue is that the CT heart scan does not clearly show any indication of a need for medical intervention, and therefore is considered worthless by those who think that the only justifiable reason for a diagnostic procedure is to determine if medical intervention is appropriate.

    Your argument for the utility of the heart scan is based on the ability of the scan to predict the utility of preventive behavior, reversing the accumulation of plaque by changing the composition of blood lipids.  Preventive action isn't even on these guys' radar.  You've also told us why it's not on their radar: prevention isn't profitable and doesn't pay off the student loans that cardiologists incur or the capital costs of the cardiology facilities in big medi-business.

    If I was cynical, I would say that they know the actual value of statins by the argument they use to dismiss the primary indicator of ongoing heart disease.  They know that statins have little or no effect on accumulated calcium in the heart and know that someone paying attention to heart scan scores would quickly realize the significant, painful and common side effects of statins are not worth the limited benefit.

    But anyone reading your blog or on the TYP program already knows why this is the rhetoric because you have repeatedly clearly explained what's going on any why (as usual: follow the money)

  • Anonymous

    9/18/2008 12:56:00 PM |

    50 x-rays? is that true?

  • lizzi

    9/18/2008 3:23:00 PM |

    Dr Davis.  Do you have any data that decreasing coronary calcium scores actually saves lives or decreases cardiac morbidity? As you show in this post, the association of Coronary calcium score and atherosclerotic heart disease is undeniable as well as prolific.  I would just love to believe that decreasing one's score really prevented heart attacks.

  • Anonymous

    9/18/2008 6:38:00 PM |

    It would be nice if you could address what tests us 20 and 30 somethings can have done since CT scans are not recommeneded for our age group.

  • jean

    9/18/2008 6:54:00 PM |

    "If I was cynical, I would say that they know the actual value of statins by the argument they use to dismiss the primary indicator of ongoing heart disease. They know that statins have little or no effect on accumulated calcium in the heart and know that someone paying attention to heart scan scores would quickly realize the significant, painful and common side effects of statins are not worth the limited benefit."
    -rabagley
    And knowing all of the above, why would they espouse knowledge that makes a mockery (!yes!) of their entire professional life? Having worked 10 years in a CCU as a nurse, a little thing called EGO is possibly involved (ah, the turf fights, I remember them well). Just possibly. Oh, and money. Money, money, money!
    Thank you for trying to bring these folks, kicking and screaming, into the 21st century.

  • Peter Silverman

    9/19/2008 2:58:00 PM |

    I wonder if anyone has scanned John McCain's 1000 pages of medical records to see if he's had heart scan?

  • Anonymous

    9/19/2008 10:42:00 PM |

    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
         - Leo Tolstoy

  • Anonymous

    9/20/2008 2:56:00 AM |

    Dr Davis,

    As someone who is "in between" scores - first one 230 at 52 and 410 at 54 - with huge changes in Vit D, fish oil, etc and great results in both Berkley and MNR results.... I do wonder.

    Have there been studies that show the hard to soft ratio of calcium is constant, or in people who have declining heart scan scores, or *slowing* scores, that the soft dangerous plaque for those people is lower than those whose scores are growing.

    It seems (logically) that declining scores would indicate a change in percentages (e.g. flat scores show a significant reduction in the amount of "soft" plaque.

    Dave K

  • Anonymous

    9/20/2008 12:03:00 PM |

    Re:"50 x-rays? is that true?"

    From July 3, 2008

    On present-day CT devices, heart scans expose a patient to 0.4 mSv of radiation on an electron-beam, or EBT, device, and on up to 1.2 mSv on a 64-slice multi-detector, or MDCT, device, compared to 0.1 mSv during a standard chest x-ray. CT heart scans are therefore performed with about the same quantity of radiation as a mammogram done to screen women for breast cancer, or about the equivalent of four chest x-rays on an EBT scanner, up to 12 chest-xrays on a MDCT scanner.

  • Alan S David

    9/24/2008 2:56:00 PM |

    I have cut the wheat to less than 3% of my diet.I do eat a once a wekk lower fat pizza Smile
    My calcium scan score was a 90 last January and I am hoping ( at age 59+) to see the same or better this January. I also added 6-8 fish oil caps a day, take niacin and L-arginine, as well as increased my cardio program.
    Lost 18 pounds from an already somewhat trim weight level. My ldl though went from 170 to 220, while HDL went from 40 up to 55. Not sure why on this, other than the fish oil maybe?

  • Rick

    6/25/2009 6:55:55 AM |

    >My ldl though went from 170 to 220, while HDL went >from 40 up to 55. Not sure why on this, other than >the fish oil maybe?

    My take (based on my reading of Dr Davis's work and that of Dr Michael Eades) is that:
    1. The score is probably inaccurate because they've calculated the LDL for you rather than actually measuring it;
    2. Since your HDL has gone up (and probably triglycerides have gone down), it probably doesn't matter even if your LDL has actually gone up. ( I think Dr Davis might disagree with this second one.)

  • Rick

    6/25/2009 6:58:52 AM |

    BTW, Dr Davis, although you say that Dr Manning has confused CT coronary angiography and CT heart scanning, you don't mention what the difference is or why people would confuse them.

  • Anonymous

    9/21/2009 3:46:44 PM |

    AS A CARDIOLOGIST MYSELF: Unfortunately, this article is overly opinionated and incorrect at times. Much of the info IS correct, such as the fact that calcium DOES predict risk of coronary disease. But using this to track progression/regression is NOT appropriate and this has been shown in a very large published trial (mainly because calcium tends not to regress with treatment on statins).

    I don't mind a blog post like this with an opinion, but it is irresponsible to suggest that another physician (and one of the most respected in the field) is incorrect without confirming your facts. Dr. Manning is correct in his statments about calcium scoring, the radiation exposure, and general lack of usefulness in practice. Please post response if you would like me to further address the specifics on this issue.

  • Dr. William Davis

    12/16/2010 2:29:07 AM |

    Anonymous cardiologist--

    I'd be happy to hear more about your opinions.

    First, credible opinions do not originate from "anonymous." For all I know, you are a plumber or the guy who changes oil at the Quick Change station.

    Second, credible opinions do not start with criticizing a blog for expressing opinion. This is a BLOG, not a JACC or NEJM publication.

    As a start, I would say you've been sucker-punched into believing that serial coronary calcium scores do not work because statins don't have an effect on reducing scores. What if they were the wrong treatment to begin with?

    Are you the same guy who invites the good looking sales rep for Pfizer into your office who tells you that their "data" shows extravagant improvement in endpoints? Do you also believe that heart disease prevention ends with your prescription pad?

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Lethal lipids

Lethal lipids

There's a specific combination of lipids/lipoproteins that confers especially high risk for heart disease. That combination is:

Low HDL--generally less than 50 mg/dl

Small LDL--especially if 50% or more of total LDL

Lipoprotein(a)--an aggressive risk factor by itself



This combination is a virtual guarantee for heart disease, often at a young age. It's not clear whether each risk factor exerts its own brand of undesirable effect, or whether the combined presence of each cause some adverse interaction.

For instance, lipoprotein(a), or Lp(a), by itself is the most aggressive risk factor known (that nobody's heard about--there's no blockbuster revenue-generating drug for it). Each Lp(a) molecule is a combination of an LDL cholesterol molecule with a specific genetically-determined protein, apoprotein(a). If the LDL component of Lp(a) is small, then the combination of Lp(a) with small LDL is somehow much worse, kind of like the two neighborhood kids who are naughty on their own, but really bad when they're together.

Interestingly, the evil trio responds as a whole to many of the same corrective treatments:

Niacin--increases HDL, reduces small LDL, and reduces Lp(a)

Elimination of wheat, cornstarch, and sugars--Best for reducing small LDL; less potent for Lp(a) reduction.

High-fat intake--Like niacin, effective for all three.

High-dose fish oil--Higher doses of EPA + DHA north of 3000 mg per day also can positively affect all three, especially Lp(a).


If you have this combination, it ought to be taken very seriously. Don't let anybody tell you that it is uncorrectable--just because there may be no big revenue-generating drug to treat it on TV does
not mean that there aren't effective treatments for it. In fact, some of our biggest successes in reducing heart scan scores have had this precise combination.




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  • Jenny

    5/8/2009 12:22:00 PM |

    Isn't it time we stopped talking about "risk factors" which is a flaky idea invented by drug companies and often means "associations" and start talking about causes?

    In this case, a CAUSE of heart problems is probably glycosylation [permanent binding of glucose to the protein] of receptors used in lipid removal. That's why cutting back on carbs which lowers glycosylation helps.  

    The CAUSE explanation for why  wheat is an issue for many people is most likely that they have genes for mild gluten intolerance which leads to systemic inflammation. New genes have been discovered recently which are making many more people test positive for gluten intolerance, usually people with other autoimmune markers.

    Without those genes wheat behaves just like another glucose-source in the diet. I do eat wheat, just not much of it, but I keep all my carbs low and have very low Apo-A and very high HDL.

    I do occasionally hear from people with diabetes who are fat sensitive and whose insulin requirements and blood sugar go up not down on a high fat/low carb diet. That's probably another genetic error at work. It's rarer, but it does exist. For such people the cause profile may be different.

    It would be nice to know what's the cause behind the positive effects of the fish oil on heart disease. Any clue?

    As long as we stick with "risk factors" we can end up thinking that yacht ownership is a "risk factor" for wealth since studies have repeatedly shown that people who own yachts are more wealthy than those who don't.

  • prophets

    5/8/2009 1:23:00 PM |

    i have this pathology.  the causes are pretty clear, imo.  i take nicotinic acid, fish oil, etc.  unfortunately, i had to self-diagnose my condition because every cardiologist i saw was so fixated on low-ldl/lipitor-is-everything analysis.

    thx for the note.

  • Steve

    5/8/2009 2:13:00 PM |

    high fat intake is a surprise! are you saying high saturated fat or unsaturated fat from oily fish for example?  
    Does elimination of sugar mean not eating fruit?

  • Anonymous

    5/8/2009 2:31:00 PM |

    After reading your post about the use if niacin to improve low HDL, I started niacin.
    I just got my test results:In 6 months, I've gone from 42 to 79!
    I'm still waiting for the results from my vitamin d level and CRP, but I bet I'm not disappointed.
    Thanks again for great information.
    Jeanne

  • Anonymous

    5/8/2009 2:33:00 PM |

    Oh, and my total cholesterol went up a little, to 211, but my tryglycerides are still very low (38), so I'm guessing my small dense LDL particles are very few.
    Jeanne

  • Kurt

    5/8/2009 2:51:00 PM |

    I've been reading this blog with interest for the past week. I'm a 44 year old male who had my first coronary artery calcium scan. My doctor wanted to prescribe statins for my cholesterol (LDL 155, HDL 65, Triglycerides 78) so I decided to have a scan first. I was hoping my high HDL had kept my arteries healthy. My score was 42 (LAD 42, the rest were 0). I thought that was pretty good ("mild plaque burden," the test result said), but the doctor told me I was in the 85th percentile - only 15% of men in my age group have a higher score. I'm wondering, do you see any good news in my results? Thanks.

  • waxjob

    5/8/2009 10:29:00 PM |

    I've just read a Norwegian study that was recently cited in a cardiology journal that has found high HDL readings can be dangerous.
    I'm a 57 yr old male and this is my lipid profile:
    185 (TC)
    76 HDL
    103 LDL
    29 Triglycerides (TRG)
    My HDL is nearly as high as my LDL and my triglycerides are almost non-existant. Nobody in my family has ever had heart problems but my profile doesn't look like any of the other ones I see and I'm wondering if I should go back and ask to see a cardiologist for a follow up?

  • billye

    5/9/2009 1:32:00 AM |

    I am already taking 7000mg fish oil providing a little more than 2400mg EPA and DHA on a daily basis. What is your reference of north of 3000mg talking about, total fish oil or just EPA and DHA?.  You say high fat intake like niacin.  Did you also mean to infer that high fat animal protean and cheese could be helpful? My doctor stopped me from taking all Staten's and I already stopped sugar, wheat and high carbohydrates.

    Billy E.

  • Rick

    5/9/2009 3:06:00 AM |

    Dr Davis,
    Could you qualify the high-fat intake treatment a bit? Is any kind of fat effective? And presumably there are conditions for what the fat can be combined with, too?

  • David

    5/9/2009 4:00:00 AM |

    Saturated fat in particular is the most effective for increasing HDL, decreasing Lp(a) (by nearly 12% in one study), and decreasing sdLDL. One should note that saturated fat may cause an increase in calculated LDL, but this is inconsequential, as the LDL particles will be of the larger, fluffier, more benign type. Also, if triglycerides are decreased (as they would be -- oftentimes dramatically -- on a lower carb, higher saturated fat diet), of course calculated LDL will go up. According to the Friedewald calculation: LDL cholesterol = Total cholesterol – HDL cholesterol – Triglycerides/5. Therefore, if all you do is decrease triglycerides (a good thing, to be sure!), your LDL could go up! This is why the NMR is a much better way to track changes. It measures particle number and size instead of making a mere "calculation."

  • Anonymous

    5/9/2009 2:09:00 PM |

    Dr Davis:

    Would you comment or send a link to a comment about when you would do a calcium scan vs a full CTA for stratification of cardiac risk?

    DoctorSH

  • Anonymous

    5/9/2009 11:13:00 PM |

    David -  I would love to read more about this.  Can you point me to any studies where they have gotten these results.

    Thanks,

    Bonnie

  • David

    5/11/2009 4:02:00 AM |

    Bonnie,

    Certainly. Here's a study with all of the things I mentioned: Increased HDL, decrease in small LDL (increase in LDL particle size, which is good), and ~12% reduction in Lp(a) -- and all with a low-carb/high-fat (60%) diet.

    http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/3/1/19

  • Ricardo

    5/21/2009 3:03:51 PM |

    Dear Dr. Davis, I believe these recent studies tell us that LDL is not as bad as we were thinking. When shall we expect to see small LDL as a standard medical test/marker, and LDL discarded?

    1- http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/jac/article/PIIS0002870308007175/
    2- http://astute.cardiosource.com/2007/vposters/pdf/275_Fonarow.pdf
    3- http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/jac/article/PIIS0735109706004797/
    4- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17134630

  • mongander

    8/17/2009 9:16:53 PM |

    My HDL just doubled from under 40 to 80.  Have been on niacin and also use 1 oz of 190 proof Everclear to dissolve supplement powders which I then add to hot cocoa.  My doc thinks the increased HDL was due to the alcohol.

    Coincidentally, at the same time my HDL doubled, so did my PSA.  Now I'm scheduled for a prostate biopsy.  I'm 70.

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