The battle for natural hormones

The battle for preservation of availability of compounded natural hormones goes on.

It started with pharmaceutical manufacturer, Wyeth, who petitioned the FDA to disallow the mixing of pharmaceuticals, especially natural human hormones, by specially trained pharmacists at what are called "compounding pharmacies." These are pharmacies that have special equipment and where trained pharmacists can mix up specific preparations for dispensing. These are available by prescription.

For instance, I have been prescribing natural human testosterone and progesterone for nearly 10 years. I have found service to be excellent, with lots of learning materials provided to patients by the pharmacy. The pharmacists I've spoken to have been courteous and knowledgeable. Compounded hormones are also shockingly less expensive. While a testosterone patch from a pharmaceutical company costs around $4.00 per day, the same quantity of testosterone cream formulated by a compouding pharmacy costs around $0.50 per day--87.5% less.

Wyeth hides behind a smoke screen of concern over quality. But the price differences tells the entire story: they want to eliminate the inexpensive competition and hold us all hostage to the far more expensive, often inferior products that they produce. They'd sooner force a woman to use horse-derived Premarin than to allow her access to human estrogens and progesterone.

To me, this is an outrageous affront to our freedom of choice, both as consumers as well as a physician. If you feel as strongly as I do about opposing the unfair and bullying ways of Wyeth Pharmaceuticals and the FDA, the P2C2 association of compounding pharmacists makes writing a letter to your Senator easy by going to

http://iacprx.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=P2C2

Just enter your info and personalize the comments, and the e-mails will be generated for you.

Lipitor and memory

At first, I was skeptical. A book from a nutty author and physician named Duane Graveline kept on coming up in conversations with patients. His book, Lipitor: Thief of Memory , details his personal experience with dramatic changes in memory and thought while taking Lipitor.



Now this is a drug that I've seen used thousands of times. But I've now seen about a dozen people who have had distinct struggles with memory and clarity of thinking while taking Lipitor. Most took doses of 40 mg per day or more, though an occasional person takes as little as 10 mg. The association seems to be undeniable, since it improves after two weeks off the drug, recurs when resumed. Just today, I saw two people where this effect may be an issue.

Curiously, I've not seen it with any other statin agent. Unfortunately, uncovering any scientific data on the issue is a hopeless quest. Either it's very uncommon or, worse, the data has been suppressed.

Any way, I believe that Dr. Graveline was right: Lipitor, in a small number of people, does indeed seem to exert real detrimental effects on the mind.

If you take Lipitor, should you stop it in fear of long-term effects on your mental capacity? I think it's premature to toss the drug out based on this relatively uncommon relationship. This particular effect is likely to be idiosyncratic, i.e., peculiar to an occasional person but does not seem to apply to the majority, probably by some quirk of metabolism or penetrability of the barrier between the blood and nervous system tissue.

If, however, you feel that your thinking and memory have deteriorated on the drug, please speak to your doctor.

EKG's and heart disease


How helpful are EKG's for detecting hidden heart disease?

I pose this question because several patients asked this question just this week. It's also a frequent point of confusion and misperception.

Your EKG is nothing more than an expression of the surface electrical activity emitted by heart muscle activity. Multiple (12) leads are attached to the body simply to provide various "views" of this electical activity. EKG, or sometimes "ECG", is short for "electrocardiogram".

What modifies this surface electrical activity? Anything that modifies the electrical activity within the heart itself, or interferes with the detection of the activity. An old heart attack modifies the patterns of electrical conduction in the heart and that can change your EKG. An ongoing heart heart attack likewise. High blood pressure commonly creates changes in the EKG, as does lung disease. A bellyache can change your EKG, as can a stroke. (These non-heart-related phenomena probably are often due to changes in autonomic, or "automatic," nervous system activity.) The heart generates electrical activity in a predictable sequence that generates the heart beat, or "rhythm". EKG's are useful for monitoring heart rhythm, also.

Does having plaque in your coronary arteries have any effect on the EKG? None whatsoever, unless plaque rupture caused heart attack or is about to cause heart attack. So, you can have a horrendous CT heart scan score of, say, 3000, yet maintain a perfectly normal EKG, as long as the heart muscle is normal.

Then why bother with these iffy tests? They are indeed useful to diagnose the cause of active symptoms. For instance, go to the ER with chest pain and an EKG could show changes suggesting that the chest pain is a heart attack. EKG's are also useful for future comparison. Any change in EKG can suggest certain things, like new heart rhythm disturbances unrelated to coronary plaque.

Think of your EKG as just like buying a used car. Say I'm trying to sell you my 1999 Buick Century. It looks pretty good from the outside and I tell you that it has 70,000 miles and runs well. You ask to open the hood, look in the interior and take it out for a drive. I tell you no, you can't do that.

Would you buy the car? Of course you wouldn't. You were permitted only a very superficial examination of the car. You have no idea what's going on inside. Just because the paint job looks brand new doesn't mean the engine and transmission are good.

The same with your EKG: It's a superficial look at one aspect of this used car called your heart. If the EKG is normal, that's good, just like a good exterior on the Buick. But you cannot assume that the heart is otherwise normal.

View the EKG as a simple, superficial test that can only provide minimal reassurance, no matter how often you have it done.

A new Track Your Plaque record

Neal, a 40-year old school principal, and his young wife were terrified on learning of his CT heart scan score of 339, a concerningly high score for any age, particularly age 40.

To make matters worse, all of Neal's plaque was located in the critical left mainstem coronary artery, the shared stem of two of the three coronary arteries. A heart attack in this location is instantly fatal.

So, it was especially gratifying that Neal has set the Track Your Plaque record for largest magnitude of plaque reversal: 51% in his first year.

Studies that show a reduction in heart attack make the news. They talk about 1, 2, up to 6% regression, all achieved with high doses of statin drugs. Yet we are seeing huge, extraordinary quantities of heart disease reversal that haven't yet made headlines, amounts that far exceed those featured in the news. We should be encouraged by experiences like Neal's.

Watch for the upcoming Track Your Plaque newsletter for more details on Neal's story--how he came to the program, how he accomplished this huge effect, and why his experience was such a success. If you haven't yet subscribed, go to the www.cureality.com homepage and click on the upper right hand corner.

The Plavix Scam

Periodically, I'll see a flurry of TV ads for Plavix. It comes with a polished computer-animated cartoon that shows how platelets clump and form a blood clot, causing heart attack.

Imagine there's a pile of oil-soaked rags in a corner of your garage. I come by and tell you to get a good fire extinguisher to keep next to the rag pile in case they spontaneously ignite.

Does that make sense to you?

Wouldn't it be better to get rid of the oily rags and forget about the fire extinguisher?

Plavix is the fire extinguisher. The oil rags are your coronary plaque. The solution is to gain control over plaque behavior. Unfortunately, the TV ads (intentionally, I suspect) give the impression that blood clots just form out of the blue for no reason. Of course that's not true. It requires active, growing, inflamed atheroslcerotic plaque that ruptures, uncovering the "angry" and platelet-adhering material underneath the thin covering or endothelial lining.

Urging everybody to take Plavix is absurd. The TV ads urge many people who have no business taking the drug to take it. There are, without a doubt, groups of people who are better off taking Plavix and aspirin: people who are in the midst of heart attack, people who have unstable plaque, people with recent stents or bypass. Perhaps people at high risk for plaque rupture, e.g., extensive coronary plaque that has continued to grow.

These tactics are consistent with the experiences I've had with the sales representatives from the company (when I used to actually talk to sales reps; my office is now barred from them). The reps very aggressively would urge me to consider having everyone take Plavix. No kidding.


For us, i.e., for people who just have a heart scan score but interested in engaging in a powerful program of prevention and reversal, Plavix rarely provides any advantage. The answer is, just like our oily rag analogy, control the plaque, not put out the fire.

Lipoprotein(a) and small LDL

You won't find a lot of scientific validation for this, but it is my firm impression that small LDL, by some crazy means, has the capacity to "turn on" or "turn off" lipoprotein(a), Lp(a).

Recall that Lp(a) is a specific genetic trait, passed to us (if you have it) by mother or father. It falsely elevates LDL cholesterol and escalates heart disease risk more than just about any other known abnormality.

A frequent hint that Lp(a) might be present is a comment I hear often from patients: "My doctor said statin cholesterol drugs don't work for me. I tried them all and my cholesterol won't go down." Or, the result was substantially less than expected. That's because, when Lp(a) is lurking in your cholesterol value, it is unaffected by the statins.

It's been my in-the-trenches observation that, the more fully expressed the small LDL pattern becomes, the worse the Lp(a) behaves. In other words, if small LDL is suppressed effectively, Lp(a) doesn't seem to carry the same dangers as in someone who has plenty of small LDL. I don't know why this is. (I expect that the answer will come from someone like Dr. Marcovina at Stanford, who is at the forefront of Lp(a) structural research. Lp(a) is a complex molecule with several components. How and why it interacts with other particles remains a mystery.)

There are a little bit of data to confirm this. The Quebec Cardiovascular Study has presented some data to this effect, that the combination of small LDL particles and Lp(a) are a particularly lethal combination. We are trying to correlate our data from a CT heart score perspective to discern any statistical relationships.

This raises a very important therapeutic issue if you have Lp(a): the worst thing you can do if you have Lp(a) is become overweight. Excess abdominal fat is a huge trigger to create small LDL particles. Even though being overweight itself has no effect on the measured level of Lp(a), it activates small LDL which, in turn, throws gasoline on the Lp(a) fire.

If you have Lp(a), stay skinny.

Optimal medical therapy

I was re-reading some of the details behind the recently announced COURAGE Trial comparing angioplasty/stent in 1100 people compared to "optimal" medical therapy in another 1100. You'll recall that no difference was found.

In particular, over approximately 5 years, 20% of participants in each group died, experienced heart attacks, or strokes. Of those treated with "timal" medical therapy, 32% ended up getting a procedure like stents or bypass anyway due to deteriorating symptoms.

What is "optimal" medical therapy? I bring this up again because the study investigators in COURAGE, as well as in similar trials, say this with a straight face. Optimal medical therapy means aspirin and/or Plavix (the anti-platelet, aspirin-like blood thinner); "aggressive" statin drug therapy to reduce LDL cholesterol to 60-85 mg/dl; and "anti-ischemic" therapy (that reduces angina and the phenomena of poor coronary blood flow) using nitroglycerin preparations, beta blockers, and other drugs.

I do give credit to the investigators for having the courage to perform this trial in a world hell bent on doing procedures and still reporting the neutral outcome. But the notion of "optimal" medical therapy begs for comment.

Indeed, this is regarded as optimal by most practitioners. Some would even argue excessive, based on the low LDL target achieved. Would you be satisfied with a 20% likelihood of heart attack, stroke, or death or 5 years, a 1 in 5 roll of the dice? I would not. Recall that we aim for near-total elimination of risk.

What could have been further "optimized"? Plenty. For instance:

--What is the real LDL, not the fabricated, calculated LDL? The two can be commonly 100 mg/dl different.

--How about raising HDL to 60 mgd/?

--What about reducing the proportion of small LDL particles? After all, small LDL is the number one cause of heart disease in the U.S., not high LDL.

--What is Lp(a)? If you treat LDL with a statin drug, Lp(a) is unaffected and continues to trigger huge plaque growth. You will fail if this is not identified and corrected.

--What is vitamin D3? One of the most powerful facilitators of plaque reversal I know of.

--What are triglycerides? Triglycerides create hidden particles in the blood like intermediate-density lipoprotein, potent triggers for coronary plaque growth. Speaking of intermediate-density lipoprotein, that's another very important pattern to identify, the after-eating persistence of dietary fats.

--Why aren't they taking fish oil? With a 28% reduction in heart attack and 45% reduction in sudden death from heart attack, this alone would have halved the number of "events" in the "optimal" medical treatment group.

Of course, there's more. But the idea that aspirin, statins, and anti-ischemic therapy is somehow optimal is silly and sad at the same time. But that's the bias. The COURAGE Trial does represent a step forward, a step away from the "stent everyone and everything" mentality that motivates my colleagues, aided and abetted by their co-conspirators, the hospitals. But you and I know better. "Optimal" medical therapy, in truth, can mean a far better approach that can dramatically reduce, perhaps eliminate, risks for events like heart attack. The conventional "optimal" medical therapy will suffice only if you're content with a 20% likelihood of heart attack, death or stroke, or a 32% likelihood of an urgent procedure in your future.

Niacin, postprandial patterns

For a detailed report on the very important postprandial (after eating) patterns that contribute hugely to heart disease risk, read my recent article in Life Extension Magazine, available (no cost) at:

Uncovering a Hidden Source of Cardiovascular Disease Risk
at http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/mar2007_report_heart_01.htm


For a report on using niacin to reduce risk of heart disease, see another report in the same issue of Life Extension:

Ask the Doctor: Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health
at
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/mar2007_atd_01.htm.

Also, keep your eyes open for a lengthy report focused exclusively on the Track Your Plaque program in an upcoming issue of Life Extension. I'll provide links in this Blog when it comes out.

What's better than fish oil?

One of the recent questions on our Track Your Plaque Forum related to what to do about a triglyceride level of 101 mg/dl while on fish oil.

Recall that, contary to conventional thinking like that articulated in the ATP-III cholesterol treatment guidelines, we aim to reduce triglycerides to 60 mg/dl or less. This is important to suppress the formation of abnormal triglyceride-containing lipoprotein particles, especially small LDL, reduced HDL, lack of healthy large HDL, VLDL. ATP-III advises a level of 150 mg/dl or less. Unfortunately, triglyceride levels this high guarantee appearance of all these undesirable particles and an increasing heart scan score.

What's better than 4000 mg of fish oil for its 1200 mg of EPA and DHA (omega-3 fatty acids)? More fish oil. In other words, the 4000 mg fish oil providing 1200 mg EPA + DHA is our minimum. A simple increase to 6000 mg to provide 1800 mg EPA + DHA is usually all that is necessary to reduce triglycerides and put a halt to the cascade of abnormal lipoprotein particles that trigger plaque growth. Occasionally, a somewhat higher dose may be required. Doses are best divided into two, with meals (e.g., three capsules twice a day).

Another important issue: An over-reliance on wheat products can also increase triglycerides. This includes any flour product like breads (regardless of whether it's white, whole wheat, or whole grain--they all raise triglycerides), pretzels, bagels, breakfast cereals, and pasta. A dramatic reduction in wheat-containing products will reduce triglycerides substantially, help you reduce your abdominal fat, reduce blood pressure, raise HDL and reduce small LDL, clear your mind, provide more energy, avoid afternoon "fogginess" . . . Huge benefits.

Valve disease and vitamin D

There are two common forms of heart valve disease: aortic valve stenosis (stiffness) and insufficiency (leakiness), and mitral anular calcification.

Both valve issues are regarded as evidence of senescence, or aging--the older you are, the more likely you will have one or both. Both conditions involve progressive calcium deposition and, to some degree, cholesterol deposition. They might be regarded as phenomena of "wear and tear" just like hip arthritis.

There are no known therapies to stall or stop the development of mitral anular calcification. However, several attempts have been made over the years to identify treatments that can slow or stop the progression of aortic valve disease, which is becoming increasingly common and is addressed by surgical valve replacement when severe. The most recent trials have examined whether high-dose Lipitor (80 mg) has any effect (it did not) and high dose Crestor (40 mg), which slowed but did not stop the deterioration of stiff valves.

It's been my suspicion that vitamins D and K2 may play a crucial factor in valve health. After all, vitamin D is the master controller of calcium deposition. Preliminary data also suggest that people who are intentionally made vitamin K deficient with the drug, Coumadin, develop twice the calcium deposition on aortic valves that non-Coumadin takers develop.

I saw a patient Friday, Marianne. In addition to a moderate heart scan score of 379 at age 71, Marianne had a leaky (insufficient) aortic valve. By an echocardiogram 18 months ago, the valve was moderately leaky. I put Marianne on vitamin D, 4000 units, to raise her blood level to 50 ng/ml.

Last week, I asked Marianne to have another echocardiogram. This time, no leakiness whatsoever--none. I have never seen this happen before. Although Marianne is only one example and we don't want to extrapolate too far from the experience of one person, it's hard not to attribute this phenomenal response to vitamin D supplementation.

I wonder what would have happened if we had added vitamin K2, as well?

Anyway, just another potential wonderful effect of vitamin D restoration.
The ultimate insurance company cost savings

The ultimate insurance company cost savings

I had a very disturbing conversation with a physician who is employed by an insurance company last week.

I admitted a patient in the hospital for very clear-cut reasons. She is one of my few non-compliant patients, doing none of the strategies I advocate--no fish oil, no vitamin D, no correction of her substantial lipoprotein abnormalities, not even medication. Much of this was because of difficult finances, some of it is because she is from the generation (she is in her late 70s) that tends to ignore preventive health, some of it is because she is a kind of happy-go-lucky personality. So her disease has been progressive and, now, life-threatening, including an abdominal aneurysm near-bursting in size (well above the 5.5 cm cutoff). The patient is also a sweet, cuddly grandmother. I have a hard time bullying nice little old ladies.

While she was in the hospital, the social worker told me that her case was being reviewed by her insurer and would likely be denied. Their medical officer wanted to speak to me.

So the medical officer called me and started asking pointed questions. "Why did you do that test? You know that she's not been compliant. Are you sure you want to do that? I don't think that's a good idea." In other words, this was not just a review of the case. This was an opportunity for the insurance company to intervene in the actual care of the patient.

Then the kicker: "Have you considered not doing anything and . . . just letting nature take its course?"

At first, I was stunned. "You mean let the patient die?"

Expressed in such blatant terms, while he was trying to be diplomatic, made him back down. "Well, uh, no, but she is a high-risk patient."

Anyway, this was the first instance I've encountered in which the insurance company is not just in the business of reviewing a case, but actually trying to intervene during the hospital stay, to the point of making the ultimate healthcare cost savings: Letting the patient die.

Unfortunately, never having had an experience like this before, I did not think to record the conversation or take notes. I am wondering if this is an issue to be taken up by the Insurance Board . . . or is this a taste of things to come as the health insurers fall under increasing pressure with the legislative changes underway?

Comments (48) -

  • Apra -- The Shaman

    9/29/2010 5:34:45 PM |

    There's no reason to blame this on health care legislation yet, it hasn't taken effect yet. It sounds like it is the usual coldhearted, profiteering insurance companies have engaged in.

  • Anonymous

    9/29/2010 5:50:58 PM |

    Who needs Death Panels -- the insurance industry has been doing this stuff for years and will continue under Obamacare.

  • Jon

    9/29/2010 5:53:16 PM |

    Wow. I'm stunned. I cannot believe they basically would come in to the hospital and ask you to let her die so they can save money...

    -Goes to show how out of wack peoples' values have become these days.

  • aek

    9/29/2010 6:02:09 PM |

    As stunning as that was, it does bring up an interesting point:  if this patient is essentially refusing interventions aimed at reversal/control of disease, is it appropriate to have an end of life discussion with her?  Is she opting for palliative care or hospice type care?  What are her goals?  Pain management? ADL function?  Some quality of life issue?

    I don't think that "bullying", scare tactics, coercive tactics, disease curative advocacy tactics  etc. are useful here.

    Having a frank discussion about her health aims and her knowledge in order to partner in achieving her health/quality of life goals may actually be where the utility will be.

    Great post.  Thanks for writing this.

  • Dawn

    9/29/2010 6:27:23 PM |

    I think the whole point of this episode is that Obamacare has nothing to do with "death panels" and that insurance companies have already been intervening (read: rationing) care for years.

  • David Csonka

    9/29/2010 7:19:44 PM |

    This is the kind of situation that got so many people riled up, when the topic of "death panels" arose during the health care reform debates.

  • Elenor

    9/29/2010 7:43:34 PM |

    No one is willing to point this out  -- but if she is NOT willing to do anything to try to ameliorate her health, then perhaps "society" should not have to pay for her hospitalization.  

    People are all up in arms about "oooohhh. Death panels!!" There is no human life that does not end in death. It is a REASONABLE economic consideration whether "society" (that is, you and I) owe anyone 'free' health care when they refuse to follow their medical practitioner's advice. (Yes, that means I pay for my own medical care, because I'm not insured, and I don't always agree with my doctor's advice.)  

    No one is "owed" full medical coverage when they're not willing to participate in their own health.  And society (you and I) CANNOT afford to pay for everyone's health care. Period. It's not possible.  There is not that much money on the planet!  

    I dislike the insurance companies -- but their attempt to protect their shareholders' money is a REASONSABLE financial decision based on rational grounds. Sorry that granny isn't able or willing to take care of herself, but we CANNOT afford to pay for everything for everyone.

  • Anonymous

    9/29/2010 8:05:20 PM |

    This is nothing new.  Insurance companies exist to make money.  They're neither good nor evil.  They're not interested in patient care.  They're interested in taking in more money than they give back out.

    Not sure what else you'd expect.

  • Tax Sale Property Jim

    9/29/2010 8:21:52 PM |

    Wow. Reading this chilled my blood to the point that I wondered for a split second if you made it up (nothing personal, was just that shocked).

    Shocking, and appalling.

  • Anonymous

    9/29/2010 8:26:58 PM |

    Given the complexity of the health care legislation, is it really possible to say that it will make the situation with insurers better or worse?  Some provisions aimed at limiting cost could make the situation worse, but the standardization of plans that the exchanges are likely to cause could make the situation better.  From my point of view, it seems to hard to answer without going into the details, and I have yet to see a detailed analysis.  Does anyone know of one?

    Even then, the full effects of the legislation is likely to be unpredictable due to the hybrid nature of our health care.  (See "The Healing of America: A Global Quest for Better, Cheaper, and Fairer Health Care" for a description of various health care systems and how ours compare).

  • Chuck

    9/29/2010 8:27:03 PM |

    I tend to agree that if she refuses to make attempts to improve her health that a real "end of life" discussion is warranted.  maybe that was had and that what precipitated the test requests.

  • Barkeater

    9/29/2010 8:31:36 PM |

    If she has insurance, it is not "society" that should determine her care, it is her individual contractual right.  The insurance company is stuck with her and needs to pay for her care in accordance with the contract.  Trying to persuade her doctor not to prescribe the care he ought to is dealing off of the bottom of the deck.  

    She should be compliant, of course, but I am certain she cannot be denied further care under the policy just because she made some poor choices in the past.

    I think the reason "death panels" is such a scary concept (and insurance companies rationing care too) is that as individuals we want the right to the best care, and we thought we were getting it and paying for it through insurance.  Sadly, the entire system (as is and as will be) is skewed toward top-down decision-making, rather than patient empowerment (and responsibility).

    If her regular doctor were someone other than Dr. Davis, the care she might have gotten might not have done any good anyway.  God sent her a rowboat as the flood waters lapped at her feet, and she did not get in.

  • Anonymous

    9/29/2010 9:57:30 PM |

    As long as health insurance is a "for profit" business, this situation is bound to happen. Why should this surprise anyone ? Like any for profit business, they are in it for the money. It unfortunately for us, the paying public, involves our lives. I don't see anything changing unless the insurance industry is changed over to a non-profit one. Not likely to happen in the US.

  • Ellen

    9/29/2010 10:06:29 PM |

    ". . or is this a taste of things to come as the health insurers fall under increasing pressure with the legislative changes underway?"


    Yes.

  • TJ

    9/29/2010 10:15:48 PM |

    >>>  No one is willing to point this out -- but if she is NOT willing to do anything to try to ameliorate her health, then perhaps "society" should not have to pay for her hospitalization

    -----

    Well the irony here is that the prescription of many docs for being "compliant" (ie. eating whole grains and takings statins etc) actually makes their health WORSE and costs society more money in the end (all the while lining the pockets of big pharma.)

    I agree in principle with your point about self-responsibility, but we have to be careful because few docs are as enlightened on this topic as Dr Davis are.

  • scall0way

    9/29/2010 10:41:33 PM |

    Hmm, well in many ways I *also* reuse to follow my medical practitioner's advice - by following a low carb diet, and refusing to take statins. So does that make me also "non-compliant" and ready for the death squad?

  • Anonymous

    9/30/2010 1:37:28 AM |

    I'm not sure how insurance works for the elderly, but remember for my father he didn't have a choice.  Once he reached the age of 65 he had to join the government plan.   I remember, he wasn't too happy about it.  Was the insurance firm for your patient Medicare?  Is there other insurance?  Scary tale regardless.

  • Anonymous

    9/30/2010 1:44:02 AM |

    Doesn't want to follow advice, change her diet, but likes to visit doctors a lot. Sounds like Elderly Munchausen syndrome.

  • rdyck

    9/30/2010 1:49:23 AM |

    No one has a right to health care and no one has a right to force care on another that refuses such care. Whether or not her decisions are "right" as judged by others is immaterial.

  • Anonymous

    9/30/2010 4:52:40 AM |

    Doesn't this woman have Medicare (i.e., govt health insurance for the elderly)?  

    Also, the health care law HAS taken effect as companies and insurance companies seek to adjust to its many diktats.  See today's news that McDonald's is thinking of dropping its (admittedly paltry) coverage and the "reform" has added much extra cost to many company bottom lines, not to mention additional tax reporting obligations.  Think what you will about the current system, but it will get worse with this reform.  Long lines, fewer specialists, no cutting-edge testing like the doctor advocates.  I know; I have lived in Canada.

  • Medical Insurance

    9/30/2010 5:31:35 AM |

    Group health insurance policies are always beneficial and the premiums for health insurance quotations are lowest when opted for a group health insurance policy, since it’s important to cover the health first.

  • Jack M.

    9/30/2010 9:21:31 AM |

    Thanks for being so transparent!  Do the drug companies offer you money to write prescriptions?  Have you heard about that from your colleagues?

  • Dr. William Davis

    9/30/2010 4:03:28 PM |

    Although I was frustrated by this (very nice) woman's inability or unwillingness to follow a preventive effort, my primary concern here is the aggressive effort to intervene by the insurance doctor.

    This is not the only instance of the clamp-down they have been exerting; we've been seeing it in many others ways. For instance, for most of the routine tests we run, including lab work, we have to get the okay of the insurer. Sounds fine, except my staff spends hours every day on the phone telling the insurance person things like "Their last HDL was 67," or nonsense that has nothing to do with justification of testing.

  • Anonymous

    9/30/2010 8:15:09 PM |

    Some of the comments here emphasize the problem of looking at health care of an individual as some sort of collective enterprise where society or some other collective claiming an interest should have its say in life or death decisions of the individual, rather than the individual, with the counsel of family and physician, retaining sole autonomy. For those of you advocating the right of the "collective," however viewed, to cast its vote on your treatment consider this: 1) by any objective standard, none of you took perfect care of your health, either, (glass houses & stones) 2) by even being on this website, you advertise your dissent from many prevailing opinions of "correct" medicine; maybe the collective would conclude that your suspect medical practices ought not to be rewarded with treatment in a crunch 3) e.g., maybe because you refused that statin & now you've had a CVA, nature ought to be allowed to take its course since you refused "best practice." I could say a lot more, but maybe you collectivists can figure it out from here.

  • Anonymous

    10/1/2010 10:31:32 AM |

    Welcome to "Obama Care"....

  • eh

    10/1/2010 4:11:26 PM |

    Happens all the time, in one way or another. My mother was sent home from the hospital in hospice care with morphine prescribed for "shortness of breath" (she had lung cancer). Clearly they didn't think there was anything more they could (or TBH, probably wanted -- she was 84) to do for her, but I guess they couldn't quite conscience doing nothing for someone experiencing difficulty breathing.

  • Anonymous

    10/1/2010 6:40:38 PM |

    Adopting unconventional approaches to health do not imply unconventional political or philosophical views. Please take these sorts of debates elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    10/1/2010 11:43:22 PM |

    Another Anonymous said:

    "welcome to Obamacare"

    This will be the outcry going forward even though it is patently false.

    I say welcome to the culture of greed.


    2007 Total CEO Compensation

    Aetna - Ronald A. Williams: $23,045,834

    Cigna - H. Edward Hanway: $25,839,777

    Coventry - Dale B. Wolf: $14,869,823

    Health Net - Jay M. Gellert: $3,686,230

    Humana - Michael McCallister: $10,312,557

    U.Health - Grp Stephen J. Hemsley: $13,164,529

    WellPoint - Angela Braly (2007): $9,094,271

    These people do not earn this money.  There is nothing about them that is that special or irreplaceable.
    A whole lot of healthcare could have been provided in place of these bloated compensation packages.

    Let's look at H. Edward Hanway at Cigna as the poster child of egregiousness.  He makes just under a half million dollars EVERY WEEK!!!!  Now a half million dollars would buy a nice house (since it's not buying healthcare).  Something that many people would like to be able to afford on a 15 or 30 year mortgage.  But not H. Edward Hanway, he can pay cash for his house and buy himself another one every week if he wants.  That granny has to die early so H. Edward Hanway can have a new house every week is a small price to pay don't you think?

    So Anonymous who blames this on Obamacare, do us a favor and stay home on election day.  We can't afford YOU!  Sheesh

  • Anonymous

    10/2/2010 12:59:44 AM |

    Welcome to a taste of the coming Obama-care health era. This case is an example of something that no one will even raises an eyebrow about. Ahhhhhhh, the people's paradise. The joys of socialism, right here in America.

    And Apra, you're mistaken about the legislation not haven taken effect yet.

  • Anonymous

    10/2/2010 11:40:53 AM |

    Socialism? What a laugh. The "Affordable Care Act" is corporate welfare in the same way Medicare Part D was corporate welfare. Big Pharma got theirs, and now the insurance industry will get theirs. (like they were suffering before)

    And let's not forget Big Agra who gets to design the food pyramid with all those "heart healthy grains" at the top.I'm really surprised the corn industry couldn't buy a place for HFCS in the corporate pyramid.

    It's not socialism, it's an oligarchy, get used to it.

  • Anonymous

    10/2/2010 2:16:18 PM |

    Why am I not surprized?  If more doctors spoke out when insurance companies do this kind of thing, I'd be willing to bet that the insurance companies would soon stop doing it.

  • helene edwards

    10/2/2010 10:59:32 PM |

    Why don't you draft up a declaration in highly detailed form, and submit it to your state's Trial Lawyers' Association for future use?  The hardest thing to do in law is prove that an insurer has a "pattern" of acting badly.  You  could provide the starting point.

  • Cheryl

    10/3/2010 2:08:09 AM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Aren't you "intervening" in the care of this patient?  Aren't you taking her (or her insurance company's money) for treatment that she rejects?

    Maybe this is a patient you should decline to treat. Sounds like if she is a lovable old lady there is a doctor who will assist her in the way she wants, clearing your schedule to accept patients who want your style of care.

    Sounds harsh, but why try to push someone into something they don't want?  She's heard you, and doesn't want to listen. she wants to live her life they way she wants.  that "living" includes her eventual death.

    That's the way it goes birth-life-death. We don't typically choose our birth, and we're sometimes asleep during our life and death.  Still though, choice is ours.

  • Principal Quattrano

    10/3/2010 4:20:32 AM |

    The real issue is that a great many Americans cling desperately to absolutely horrible diets. I'm not even talking about that vast gray area of controversy, but of those who only occasionally eat fruit or vegetables and consume mostly wheat or corn, truly a third world diet.

    How does one motivate someone who clings desperately (in a quasi-religious cultish fashion) to something that not only may hurt them in the distant future, but actually does hurt them right now? Many celiacs continue to eat wheat even though they experience immediate symptoms.

    It is as though Americans have confused the diet they may need to continue living healthy lives with an imposition on their freedom of expression.

  • Anonymous

    10/3/2010 4:56:21 AM |

    happens all the time in Neurosurgery my friend.  Welcome to our world.

  • Anonymous

    10/3/2010 1:08:05 PM |

    I'm Canadian. Like most of Europe, we have national health care. If you are ill, you get care. It is only primary care.  Each Province has its own flavor so in some cases drugs are covered across the board and in other cases, like Ontario, it is only in hospital and if you don't have a drug plan and need expensive drugs....you are no better off than in the US. Anyone with financial means can,and does, go out of country if they want.  The government will pay for private care out-of country if they have emergency needs where a patient is at risk.

    Friends of mine from Boston visited recently (I lived there for 5 years) and I was surprised to hear the question of economic value for treatment of an at-risk patient come up.

    Insurance companies get no say in who gets health care, it is Universal and is part of who we are as a nation.  

    Having a profit layer in the middle does not sound like a good place to be. Sure people are covered, but the insurance company forced to take on "bad risk" will look to minimize the loss potential.

    Trev

  • John Townsend

    10/3/2010 3:40:23 PM |

    Noting here a number of comments about the pushing of “heart healthy grains" on an unwitting public, I was intrigued this morning by the host of the Rachael Ray show (CBS)devoting a whole program on this very topic. While demoEdit  John Townsend said...nstrating various grain-based dishes, Rachael quite unabashedly pronounces that grains in the diet are very healthy, reducing the risk of heart disease by 25%, followed by a gleeful applause endorsement by the TV audience.
    She provided no backup source, nor an explanation of how this is so. This sort of irresponsible
    “pushing” of what is clearly a doubtful contention by celebrities of this ilk on mainstream media is appallingly reprehensible.

  • John Townsend

    10/3/2010 3:44:19 PM |

    Noting here a number of comments about the pushing of “heart healthy grains" on an unwitting public, I was intrigued this morning by the host of the Rachael Ray show (CBS)devoting a whole program on this very topic. While demonstrating various grain-based dishes, Rachael quite unabashedly pronounces that grains in the diet are very healthy, reducing the risk of heart disease by 25%, followed by a gleeful applause endorsement by the TV audience.
    She provided no backup source, nor an explanation of how this is so. This sort of irresponsible
    “pushing” of what is clearly a doubtful contention by celebrities of this ilk on mainstream media is appallingly reprehensible.

  • Anne

    10/4/2010 11:40:32 AM |

    Thankgoodness I don't live in the USA - that's all I can say !

  • f0xpawz

    10/7/2010 4:35:03 PM |

    ". . or is this a taste of things to come as the health insurers fall under increasing pressure with the legislative changes underway?"

    You nailed it.

    The redeeming feature of the free market is when one company is being a jerk, customers can take their business elsewhere. If they are big enough jerks they get sued and have to change their policies or at least get bad publicity.

    When the government is in charge of insurance, there is no elsewhere, they can arrest you for not paying your permium, they cannot be sued, and no amount of bad publicity will make them clean up their act.

  • Anonymous

    10/8/2010 2:27:48 PM |

    It’s annoying how some people such as f0xpawz use an otherwise importantly informative
    web-site and discussion board as a bully pulpit for their unlettered views on subjects entirely
    irrelevant to what the site is all about. This kind of behavior is straight up unseemly and offensive.

  • Anonymous

    10/25/2010 5:38:05 AM |

    I this happened to my mother last year.  

    The hospital and then nursing home staff were clearly driving her into the ground with bad food and defective medicines.  The doctor was a social climbing medical deity, the head nurse a borderline psychotic.  

    I was able to find more knowledgeable, broad minded doctors, cut the meds, improved the food, aded supplements over the nursing home's many obstructions, and we eventually escaped without mortality.  Mom got better, after eliminating a number of drugs and their horrid side effects (including nausea and vomiting, Parkinsonism).

    All the nursing homes in the locale exhibited the (sub)standard American diet syndrome.  I have since come to view US nursing homes as death traps.

    Also my wife's cousin died in UK last year under NHS cost control.  Her sister, an American MD, on the phone, recognized her sister had a systemic infection that needed IV antibiotic, stat.  NHS guidelines delayed treatment.  Dead in 48 hrs.

  • Anonymous

    10/25/2010 5:38:29 AM |

    I this happened to my mother last year.  

    The hospital and then nursing home staff were clearly driving her into the ground with bad food and defective medicines.  The doctor was a social climbing medical deity, the head nurse a borderline psychotic.  

    I was able to find more knowledgeable, broad minded doctors, cut the meds, improved the food, aded supplements over the nursing home's many obstructions, and we eventually escaped without mortality.  Mom got better, after eliminating a number of drugs and their horrid side effects (including nausea and vomiting, Parkinsonism).

    All the nursing homes in the locale exhibited the (sub)standard American diet syndrome.  I have since come to view US nursing homes as death traps.

    Also my wife's cousin died in UK last year under NHS cost control.  Her sister, an American MD, on the phone, recognized her sister had a systemic infection that needed IV antibiotic, stat.  NHS guidelines delayed treatment.  Dead in 48 hrs.

  • ash17

    11/9/2010 4:01:24 PM |

    Well, it’s amazing. The miracle has been done. Hat’s off. Well done, as we know that “hard work always pays off”, after a long struggle with sincere effort it’s done.
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    marqgibs
    Savings

  • zeeshan ali

    12/3/2010 8:31:36 AM |

    I found your blog very informative about insurance policies and plans.

  • Dana Seilhan

    12/11/2010 9:50:02 AM |

    I get angry every time I hear a don't-wanna-be-a-socialist RED-stater griping and complaining about "Obamacare" and how they don't want to be forced to pay for other people's bad health choices.  Then they bleat about death panels.  Have these kind souls ever BEEN without insurance?  Boy, I sure have.  Nothing says "death panel" like "sorry, we require payment up front and by the way, you don't qualify for Medicaid."

    Paying for someone's dumb decision to leave their front door unlocked at night when they suffer a burglary and have to call the cops?  No problem.  Paying for someone's dumb decision when they fall asleep in bed with a lit cigarette and need the fire department?  No problem.  What's the difference then?

    I do not understand and I will never understand.  Yet they go on about "death panels" and "un-American" and so on and so forth.  What, are fat people and chronically ill people not alive or something?  Or not American?

  • commercial insurance quote

    1/27/2011 2:31:50 PM |

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  • Anonymous

    3/10/2011 1:23:55 AM |

    To: Dana Seilhan

    VERY WELL said!

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