Heart attack guaranteed

What if you knew for a fact that your risk for heart attack was 100% by, say, age 58? This is indeed true for many people, though at age 60, 65, 70--or 45.

In other words, unless something were done about the causes of heart disease, you would inevitably suffer a heart attack at 58.

What sort of action could you take at age 45?

Obviously, not smoking is an absolute requirement. Continue and you may as well start getting your affairs together.

How about exercising and eating a generally healthy diet? Will your risk be reduced to zero? No. It might be reduced 20-30%, depending on genetic factors.

How about a statin drug? Watch TV ads during Oprah, and you might think it's a cure. But in reality, while it is a financial bonanza for the drug manufacturers, it will reduce risk for heart attack by 30%.

(Note that risk reduction by following multiple strategies is not necessarily additive. In other words, if you have a healthy lifestyle and take a statin agent, is risk reduced 60% (30 + 30)? No, because the effects may overlap.)

So, eating healthy, exercising, and taking a statin drug might reduce risk 35-40%, maybe 50% in the best case scenario. Would you be satisfied? Most would not.

Add fish oil at a truly therapeutic dose. Risk reduction by itself: 28%.

Add niacin or other strategies for correction of your individual, specific causes of heart disease: Now we're up to 90% reduction.

Throw in a tracking process to prove whether or not atherosclerotic plaque has progressed or reversed. Now we're approaching 100% if plaque reverses. The only way I know how to track plaque is through CT heart scans. What other test is readily available to you with low radiation exposure, yet is relatively inexpensive and precise? It certainly is not stress testing, heart catheterization, CT angiograms, or other techniques. Cholesterol won't tell you. Besides CT heart scans, there's nothing else I know of.

Let's fact it: For many people, uncorrected risk for heart attack is truly 100% at some age. Take action while you can.

That, in a nutshell, is the Track Your Plaque program.

Heart scan curiosities 3



This is a sample image from the heart scan of a 54-year old, 212 lb, 5 ft 2 inch woman. The heart is the whitish-gray in the center; lungs are the dark (air-filled) areas on either side of the heart. Note the massive amount of surrounding gray tissues that encircles the heart and lungs. This is fat. At this weight, the diameter of total fat exceeds the combined diameter of the heart and lungs. If we were to show the abdomen, there would be even more fat. (The image shows the body not well centered because the technologist centers the heart, since this is, after all, a heart scan.)





This is a 55-year old, 151 lb, 5 ft 4 inch woman. Note the contrast in the quantity of fat tissue surrounding the chest, a much more normal appearance. Note that this woman is still around 25 lb over ideal weight, but not to the extreme degree of the woman above.

Another curious observation: Note the more whitish streaking in the heavier woman's lungs. Heart scans are performed while holding a deep inspiration (a deep breath inwards), mostly to eliminate lung respiratory motion during image acquisition. Nonetheless, the heavier woman's lungs are not as fully expanded as the more slender woman. In other words, the heavier woman cannot inflate her lungs as effectively as the thinner woman. Ever notice how breathless heavy people are? Some of this effect is just being out of shape. But there's also the added effect of the abdominal fat exerting upwards compression on the lung tissues, and the constrictive effect of the encircling fat mass. At the beginning of inspiration, the chest fat exerts the resistance of inertia to inspiration that is absent, or less, in a slender person. With each breath, the heavy woman must move 50 lbs or so of surrounding fat mass just to inhale.

The heavier woman is, in effect, suffocating herself in fat.

The distortions to the human body incurred by extreme weight gain are both fascinating and shocking. I hope you're breathing easily.

The shameful "standard of care"

John's initial heart scan four years ago showed a score of 329. His physician prescribed Zocor for a somewhat high LDL cholesterol.

One year later, John asked for another scan. His score: 385, a 17% increase. John exercised harder and cut his fat intake.

This past fall--3 years after his last scan--John had yet another heart scan. Score: 641, a 66% increase over the last scan, all the while on Zocor.

John sought an opinion from a reputable cardiologist. He concurred with the prescription of Zocor and advised annual stress tests. That's it.

Followers of the Track Your Plaque approach know that the expected uncorrected rate of increase in heart scan score is 30% per year. On Zocor or other cholesterol reducing statin agent, a common rate of growth is between 18-24% per year--better but not great. Plaque growth is certainly not stopped.

But that is the full extent of interest and responsibility of your cardiologist. Prescribe a statin drug, perform a stress test, and the full extent of his obligation has been fulfilled. In legal terms, your physician has met the prevailing
"standard of care". No more, no less.

In other words, the prevailing standard of care falls shamefully short of what is truly possible. For the majority of the motivated and interested, coronary plaque reversal--reduction of your heart scan score--should be the standard aimed for. It's not always achievable, but it is so vastly superior to the prescribe statin, wait for heart attack approach endorsed by most cardiologists.

Heart scan curiosities 2



This is an example of a so-called "hiatal hernia", meaning the stomach has migrated through the diaphragmatic hiatus into the chest--the stomach is literally in the chest. This example is an unusually large one. Hiatal hernias can cause chest pain, indigestion, and a variety of other gastrointestinal complaints. Heart scans are reasonably useful to screen for this disorder, though very small ones could escape detection by this method.

Sometimes, you can actually hear the gurgling of stomach contents (the common "growling" stomach) by listening to the chest. Large ones like this actually crowd your heart (the gray structure above the circled hernia), irritating it and even causing abnormal rhythm disorders. The dense dark material within the hernia represents lunch.

I would not advocate CT heart scans as a principal method to make a diagnosis, but sometimes it just pops up during a heart scan and we pass it on to the person scanned.

Vitamin D: New Miracle Drug

At the meetings of the American Society of Bone and Mineral Research, Dr. Bruce Troen of the University of Miami detailed his views on the extraordinary benefits of vitamin D replacement. He also talked about the enormous problem of unrecognized vitamin deficiency.

“There’s a huge epidemic of hypovitaminosis D, and the real key here is not just that it’ll benefit you from a bone and neuromuscular standpoint, but if you correct hypovitaminosis D and the corresponding secondary hyperparathyroidism, then you’re going to decrease prostate cancer, colon cancer—actually “up to 17 different cancers, breast cancer included.”

Unfortunately, Dr. Troen did not talk much about the heart benefits of vitamin D, likely since the data is scant, nearly non-existent. However, if the Track Your Plaque experience means anything, I predict that vitamin D replacement will become among the most powerful tools you can use to gain control over coronary plaque.

Read the text of a report from the Internal Medicine World Report to read more of Dr. Troen's comments.


http://www.imwr.com/article.php?s=IMWR/2006/11&p=40

Heart disease "reversal" by stress test


Here's an interesting example of a 71-year old man who achieved "reversal" of an abnormality by a nuclear stress test.

This man underwent bypass surgery around 10 years ago, two stents three years ago. A nuclear stress test in April, 2005 showed an area of poor blood flow in the front of the heart. On the images, normal blood flow is shown by the yellow/orange areas. poor or absent blood flow is shown by the blue/purple areas within the white outline.

Now, I can tell you that this man is no paragon of health. He's only accepted limited changes in his otherwise conventional program--in other words, someone who I'd be shocked achieved true reversal of his heart disease. (I didn't have him undergo any CT heart scans because of the difficulties in scoring someone who has undergone bypass surgery and stents, and because of limited motivation. True plaque reversal is for the motivated.)This patient did, however, accept adding fish oil and niacin to his program.

Nonetheless, stress testing can be helpful as a "safety check". Here's the follow-up stress test:
You'll notice that the blue/purple areas of poor blood flow have just about disappeared. This occurred without procedures.

Does this represent "reversal"? No, it does not. It does represent reversal of this phenomenon of poor flow. It does not represent reversal of the plaque lining the artery wall. That's because improvement of flow, as in this man, can be achieved with relatively easy efforts, e.g., improvement in diet, statin drugs, blood pressure control, etc. True reversal or reduction of coronary plaque, however, is tougher.

If blood flow is improved, who cares whether plaque shrinks? Does it still matter? It does. That's because the "event" that gets us in trouble is not progressive reduction in blood flow, but "rupture" of a plaque. A reduction in plaque--genuine reversal--is what slashes risk of plaque rupture.

Calcium reflects total plaque





People frequently ask, "Why measure coronary artery calcium? My doctor said that calcium only tells you if there's hard plaque, and that hard plaque is stable. He/she says that calcium doesn't tell you anything about soft plaque."

Is that true? Is calcium only a reflection of "hard" plaque? Is hard plaque also more stable, less prone to rupture and causes heart attack?

Actually, calcium is a means of measuring total plaque, both soft and hard. That's because calcium comprises 20% of total plaque volume. Within plaque, there may be areas that are soft (labeled "lipid pool" in the diagram). There are also areas made of calcium (shown in white arcs within the plaque). Even though this is just a graphic, it's representative of what is seen when we perform intracoronary ultrasound of a live human being's coronary artery. In other words, this cross section contains both "soft" (lipid pool) as well as "hard" (calcium) elements.

Is this artery "soft" or "hard"? It's both, of course. The artery compostion can vary millimeter by millimeter, having more soft or hard elements. The artery can also change over time in either direction. Thus, "soft" plaque may indeed be soft today, only to be "hard" in 6 months, and vice versa.

The essential point is that measuring just "soft" plaque provides limited information. What the CT heart scan does is provide a gauge of total plaque, soft and hard, and it does so easily, safely, precisely. If your score increases, the lengthwise volume of total plaque has also grown. If your score decreases, the total amount of plaque has also decreased.

Don't mistake marketing for truth

We're all so inundated with marketing messages for food. Unfortunately, many people confuse the messages delivered through marketing with the truth.

For instance:

Pork: "The other white meat." Pork is a high-saturated fat food.

"Bananas: A great source of potassium." Bananas are a high glycemic index (rapid sugar release), low fiber food.

"Pretzels: A low-fat snack." A high glycemic index food made from white wheat flour. It makes you fat and skyrockets blood sugar.

Jif peanut butter: "Choosy moms choose Jif." Do they also choose hydrogenated fats?

Hi-C: Upbeat jingles like "Who put the straw in my Hi-C fruit drink, a new cool straw that wriggles and bends? Who put the straw in my Hi-C fruit drink, with Vitamin C for me and my friends? Who was that man, I'd like to shake his hand, he made my Hi-C cooler than before!" What about the 25 grams of sugar per 4 oz serving? And the high fructose corn syrup that creates an insatiable sweet tooth, raises triglycrides 30%, and exagerates pre-diabetes?


Marketing is not reliable, unbiased information. If Ford boasts that their cars are superior to GM, do you say "Well then, I need to buy a Ford?" Of course not. Take marketing for what it is: A method of persuading people to buy. It may or may not contain the truth. It's a big part of the reason Americans are the fattest people on earth and are experiencing an explosion of chronic diseases of excess.

Tattered Red Dress

"Are you taking your health to heart? Perhaps you understand the importance of eating a diet low in cholesterol or getting 30 minutes of exercise a day. But do you know your own risk of developing cardiovascular disease?


It’s time to take your heart health personally. Heart disease is the No. 1 killer of American women — and that means it is not “someone else’s problem.” As a woman, it’s your problem.

That’s where the Go Red Heart Checkup comes in. This comprehensive evaluation of your overall heart health can help you now and in the future. By knowing your numbers and assessing your risks now, you can work with your doctor to significantly reduce your chances of getting heart disease tomorrow, next year, or 30 years from now!"



So reads some of the materials promoted by the American Heart Association Red Dress campaign to increase awareness of heart disease in women. The effort is well-intended. There is no doubt that most women are unaware of just how common coronary disease is in females.

But I've got a problem with the solutions offered. "Know your numbers"? Eat healthy, don't be overweight, be active, don't smoke. That's the gist of the program's message--nothing new. In 2006, why would some sort of screening effort for detectin of heart disease not be part of the message? Why isn't there any message about the real, truly effective means to detect hidden heart disease in women--namely, heart scanning?

Does a 58-year old woman with normal blood pressure, LDL 144, HDL 51, 20 lbs overweight have hidden heart disease? I've said it before and I'll say it again: You can't tell from the numbers. She could die of a heart attack tomorrow without warning, or maybe she'll be dancing on our graves when she's 95 and never have experienced any manifestation of heart disease. The numbers will not tell you this.

I'm glad the American Heart Association has seen fit to invest its sponsors' money in a campaign to promote prevention. I wish they hadn't fallen so far short of a truly helpful message. Perhaps the sponsors (like Pfizer, maker of Lipitor) will benefit, anyway.

Panic in the streets

Several days ago, I wrote about a local prominent judge in my neighborhood who was unexpectedly found dead in bed of a heart attack at age 49.

As expected, I've received multiple calls from patients and physicians who want heart catheterizations. For instance, an internist I know called me in a panic. He asked that I perform a heart catheterization in a patient with a heart scan score of 768. I've been seeing this patient for about a year. He's without symptoms, even with strenuous exercise; stress tests (i.e., tests of coronary bloow flow) have been normal.

I remind patients and colleagues every day, day in day out: Having a heart scan score revealing some measure of coronary plaque is not a sufficient reason by itself to proceed with procedures. Fear of suffering a fate like the unfortunate judge is also not a reason to proceed with procedures.

Increased awareness of the gravity of heart disease is a good thing. Some good can come out of a needless tragedy like this. The lesson from the judge's unfortunate experience: he needed a CT heart scan. I'm told that the judge's doctor advised him that a heart scan was a waste of time. I hope that appropriate legal action for negligence is taken by the judge's family against this physician.

Not doing a heart scan is wrong. That's the lesson to learn. The lesson is not that everybody with coronary plaque needs a procedure. Had the judge undergone a simple heart scan, intensified prevention could have been instituted and he'd still be alive with his wife and children today.

The indications for procedures are unchanged by your heart scan. If a stress test is abnormal and indicates poor flow to a part of the heart, that would be a reason. If symptoms like chest discomfort or breathlessness appear, that's an indication. If there's evidence of poor heart muscle contraction, that's a reason to proceed with a procedure. But just having coronary plaque is not a sufficient reason.
Vitamin D: Treatment for metabolic syndrome?

Vitamin D: Treatment for metabolic syndrome?

Metabolic syndrome is that increasingly common collection of low HDL cholesterol, high triglycerides, high blood sugar, and high pressure that now afflicts nearly 1 in 4 adults, rapidly gaining ground to 1 in 3. Beyond these surface factors, metabolic syndrome also creates small LDL particles, VLDL, intermediate-density lipoproteins (IDL), increased imperceptible inflammation measured as higher c-reactive protein, and greater blood clotting tendencies. Metabolic syndrome is usually, though not always, associated with a big tummy ("beer belly," though I call it "wheat belly").

In short, metabolic syndrome creates a metabolic mess that leads to dramatic increases in heart disease, vascular disease and stroke, and cancer. The medical community has been paying increasingly greater attention to this condition because of its booming prevalence and because of the big bucks invested in "education" by the manufacturers of the diabetes and pre-diabetes drugs, particularly makers of Actos and Avandia.

But here's a curious observation:

Replacement of vitamin D to healthy levels (we aim for 50-60 ng/ml, or 125-150 nmol/l) yields:

--Higher HDL
--Lower triglycerides
--Lower blood sugar
--Reduced c-reactive protein
--Reduced blood pressure
--Reduced small LDL
--Enhanced sensitivity to insulin

(Whether blood clotting and effects on IDL should be added to this list is uncertain.)

It's obvious: Vitamin D is proving to be a very important and powerful corrective influence on many of the facets of the metabolic syndrome. In fact, I would go as far as saying that, side by side, vitamin D yields nearly the same effect as prescription drugs Actos and Avandia--without the extravagant cost (nearly $200 per month), leg swelling, congestive heart failure and heightened heart attack risk (with Avandia), and average 8 lb weight gain. Of course, vitamin D also provides benefits beyond metabolic syndrome like facilitation of coronary plaque regression, increased bone density, reduced arthritis, and reduced risk of several cancers.

You'd think that agencies like the American Diabetes Association (ADA) would be all over vitamin D like white on rice. Yet they remain curiously quiet about the entire issue. (That should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with the behavior and politics of this organization, the same outfit that has widely propagated the ADA diet, a program that accelerates diabetes and its complications. In my view, the ADA is an embarassment.)



For a really great story and video on vitamin D that includes a terrific interview with vitamin D guru and Track Your Plaque friend, California psychiatrist Dr. John Cannell, go to What's the Real Story on Vitamin D?. While the video will yield little new to readers of The Heart Scan Blog or Track Your Plaque members, it just feels really good to see a well-made, high-class video production echoing many of the things we've been talking about these past two years.

Comments (44) -

  • Anonymous

    12/21/2007 5:52:00 PM |

    > Whether blood clotting and effects on IDL
    >should be added to this list is uncertain.

    Meaningless anecdote: I've noticed an increased tendency to bruise easily since I've been taking higher doses of vitamin D, and had been wondering whether it was the cause. I definitely have metabolic syndrome.

  • mo79uk

    12/21/2007 7:36:00 PM |

    I wish Dr. Cannell would come talk the British media. We need a tank load of D talk to infiltrate here.

  • Mike

    12/22/2007 3:49:00 PM |

    An irrational fear of skin cancer prevents most people from getting their vitamin D from sunshine. The doses that the medical establishment recommends are so small as to be almost worthless.

  • MarilynMann

    12/22/2007 10:36:00 PM |

    It would be helpful if you could tell us where the research on vitamin D you are referring to is published.  Some of us like to go to the original source.

  • Dr. Davis

    12/23/2007 12:38:00 AM |

    See our special reports on the Track Your Plaque website with detailed references. Or, go to Dr. John Cannell's www.vitamindcouncil.com website.

  • Sue

    12/23/2007 2:38:00 AM |

    Is cod liver oil the best way to get vitamin D or just vitamin D3 capsules?
    Is there are connection with hypothyroidism and low vitamin D levels?

  • Dr. Davis

    12/23/2007 1:57:00 PM |

    Either source for vitamin D works.

    I do believe that correction of vitamin D has, in occasional instances, modestly increased thyroid function.

  • MarilynMann

    12/23/2007 3:45:00 PM |

    Cod liver oil has a lot of vitamin A, which in excess can lead to low bone density.  It is better just to take the vitamin D by itself.

  • g

    12/23/2007 9:20:00 PM |

    I agree -- over 20yrs ago it was suggested that increased thyroid doses are required in the winter time for hypothyroid pts on replacement (see below). IT sure seems to suggest that Vitamin D deficiency exacerbates hypothyroidism (and I'd go as far to say it even CAUSES it)?  I've observed this as well. (it's corrected with D3)

    In the second study, a corollary phenomenon occurred -- thyroid replacement in hypothyroid pts caused 25(OH)D to INCREASE (in the autumn when you'd normally expect it to decrease).  

    Isn't it fascinating how thyroid hormone and D3 hormone are interrelated.
    ---When D3 hormone (sunlight) is lacking, thyroid function suffers
    ---When thyroid hormone is lacking, a high D3 dose fails to increase 25(OH)D much....
    ---When thyroid hormone is NOT lacking, high dose D3 causes a large increase in 25(OH)D (in normal euthryoid controls)

    it all sounds very familiar to me...  Smile

    THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND INSIGHTS!! Keep up the strong work, g


    Metabolism. 1984 Mar;33(3):215-8. Links
    Is it necessary to adjust the replacement dose of thyroid hormone to the season in patients with hypothyroidism?Hamada N, Ohno M, Morii H, Jaeduk N, Yamakawa J, Inaba M, Ikeda S, Wada M.
    Hypothalamo-pituitary-thyroid activity varies with the temperature of the environment; we therefore measured variables involved with thyroid function in summer and winter in normal controls and in patients with primary hypothyroidism. All seven patients had impalpable thyroid glands and had received a set replacement dose of thyroxine for over a year. In the patients, serum T3 and FT4 levels were slightly but significantly lower in winter, and TSH levels and delta TSH at 30 minutes in the TRH tests were significantly higher. In the controls, there were no significant differences between summer and winter in these values. These findings suggest that the dose required for replacement of thyroid hormone in patients with hypothyroidism may be higher in winter than in summer.

    PMID: 6420646 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



    Acta Endocrinol (Copenh). 1986 Nov;113(3):329-34.Links
    Effect of vitamin D3 loading and thyroid hormone replacement therapy on the decreased serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D level in patients with hypothyroidism.Bársony J, Lakatos P, Földes J, Fehér T.
    Twelve hypothyroid subjects, 13 healthy and 12 healthy women with a slight deficiency of vitamin D were studied to distinguish seasonal changes from the thyroxine-dependent ones. Serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels of hypothyroid patients were lower than those of healthy individuals when the sera were obtained in the autumn. In hypothyroid patients a single oral dose of 100,000 IU vitamin D3 resulted in a smaller increase in 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentration than in controls having subclinical exogenous vitamin D deficiency. Substitution therapy with thyroid hormone, started in our study always in autumn, increased the 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentration in hypothyroid patients, which was opposite to the autumn-to-spring variation of this hormone observed in healthy controls. The increase of 25-hydroxyvitamin D, dehydroepiandrosterone and its sulphate values following substitution therapy in the hypothyroid patients may indicate that thyroid hormone(s) is (are) involved in the regulation of steroid hormone synthesis.

    PMID: 3024434 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

  • g

    12/23/2007 9:32:00 PM |

    This is very hopeful...Vitamin D3 stalls thyroid cancer, one case report:

    Endocr J. 2005 Oct;52(5):613-6. Links
    Vitamin D3 treatment for locally advanced thyroid cancer: a case report.Morishita M, Ohtsuru A, Kumagai A, Namba H, Sato N, Hayashi T, Yamashita S.
    Department of Molecular Medicine, Atomic Bomb Disease Institute, Nagasaki University Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, Japan.

    There are many intricacies in the surgical treatment of locally advanced thyroid cancer, including the medical management of the remaining functional organ and any cosmetic impairments, which are sometimes very difficult to manage and eventually carry a relatively high morbidity and mortality. Here, we report on a case of a 65-year-old female with an extremely locally-advanced thyroid cancer involving both lobes of the thyroid, blood vessels, trachea and esophagus. Despite the severity of her condition, oral administration of vitamin D3 (alphacalcido) has stalled both the tumor growth and further increases of serum thyroglobulin (Tg) level, and has led to a good preservation of quality of life for the last two years. Several reports have previously demonstrated the efficacy of vitamin D3 to inhibit the proliferation of thyroid cancer cell lines in vitro, but clinical evidence has been limited so far. Therefore, this case report provides important evidence for the effectiveness of vitamin D3 therapy against advanced thyroid cancers.

    PMID: 16284441 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

  • g

    12/23/2007 9:42:00 PM |

    Another good story... 3mon old child with depressed thyroid function, CHF and profound Vitamin D deficiency in Oslo, Norway -- corrected with a Vit D analogue:

    Acta Paediatr. 1995 Jan;84(1):106-8
    Congestive heart failure caused by vitamin D deficiency?Brunvand L, Hågå P, Tangsrud SE, Haug E.
    Department of Paediatrics, Ullevål Hospital, Oslo, Norway.

    We describe a child, 3.5 months old, with severe vitamin D deficiency, profound hypocalcaemia, hyperphosphataemia, dilated left ventricle, severely reduced myocardial contractility and congestive heart failure. She also had depressed thyroid function with subnormal thyroxine and non-detectable serum thyrotropin (TSH) levels. The child promptly responded to calcium infusions, conventional anticongestive therapy and calcitriol. She is now 3 years old and received no medication. Myocardial function is normal but she has motor delay. We believe that her transitory congestive heart failure was caused by severe vitamin D deficiency with profound hypocalcaemia.

    PMID: 7734890 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

  • Dr. Davis

    12/23/2007 11:31:00 PM |

    Thanks, Marilyn. You're absolutely right.

    In all honesty, I virtually never use cod liver oil, but for some reason some people gravitate towards it, perhaps since they took it as children.

  • Jerome

    12/24/2007 1:55:00 PM |

    I went to a local vitamin supplier yesterday to get some Vitamin D after reading your blog, which is most interesting I might add.  At this store they had Vitamin D2 and D3 but no D1.  Is there such a thing (D1) and which is the one I should be taking to benefit as suggested in the blog?

  • Dr. Davis

    12/24/2007 4:59:00 PM |

    Hi, Jerome--

    Vitamin D3 is the only form I recommend. In my view, vitamin D2 is a worthless scam, whether it's in milk, a multivitamin, or a prescription product. I've never heard of vit D1.

  • jpatti

    12/24/2007 4:59:00 PM |

    I liked the *idea* of cod liver oil, as it would replace both fish oil and vitamin D tablets - a total of 8 pills in my 26-pill regimen.

    I bought what was supposed to be one of the best tasting ones and... it made me retch.  It also sort of tingles in your mouth.  And because it's oily, you can't rinse it out of your mouth.  It's just icky.

    I gave some to the cats, figuring it would be a healthy snack for them... and all four of them refused it.

    If someone can get it down, I think it's great stuff.  For me, I'll stick to the extra 8 pills...

  • Sue

    12/25/2007 2:20:00 AM |

    Thanks for all the helpful comments.  I've got cod liver oil in the fridge so I think I will use it up and then get D3 capsules.
    I take the cod liver oil with lemon juice.  I put the cod-liver oil in a little shot glass and squeeze some fresh lemon into the shot glass aswell and drink it in one swoop.  I then wash it down with some water with fresh lemon squeezed into it.  Gets rid of some of the icky fishy taste. The lemon also helps with digesting the fat.

  • cheron

    12/27/2007 7:19:00 AM |

    I wouldn't necessarily be afraid of the A, as we can be deficient in the A as well.  Perhaps alternating between A-containing and A-less forms of D supplements would work.  That way you get a vacation from the A periodically.

    As for surviving the fish taste...try following it up with a bite of something else that's strong tasting and contains fat, like cured olives or a tuna salad sandwich.

  • Anonymous

    1/1/2008 11:37:00 AM |

    Hi Dr. Davis,

    Have you seen literature making a connection to the plaque linked to Alzheimer's disease with the plaque responsible for heart disease?  I was asked this question by a distant cousin yesterday that wondered if the supplements recommended for TYP ,like vitamin D and K2, could help prevent those at risk for Alzheimer's (his grandmother, and mother both came down with Alzheimer's)

  • Dr. Davis

    1/1/2008 2:37:00 PM |

    No, sorry, they are two completely unrelated phenomena, despite the use of the word "plaque" to describe both.

  • MarilynMann

    1/1/2008 11:31:00 PM |

    Fish oil benefits
    Medical Research News
    Published: Sunday, 30-Dec-2007  

    It's good news that we are living longer, but bad news that the longer we live, the better our odds of developing late-onset Alzheimer's disease.
    Many Alzheimer's researchers have long touted fish oil, by pill or diet, as an accessible and inexpensive "weapon" that may delay or prevent this debilitating disease. Now, UCLA scientists have confirmed that fish oil is indeed a deterrent against Alzheimer's, and they have identified the reasons why.

    Reporting in the current issue of the Journal of Neuroscience, now online, Greg Cole, professor of medicine and neurology at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA and associate director of UCLA's Alzheimer Disease Research Center, and his colleagues report that the omega-3 fatty acid docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) found in fish oil increases the production of LR11, a protein that is found at reduced levels in Alzheimer's patients and which is known to destroy the protein that forms the "plaques" associated with the disease.

    The plaques are deposits of a protein called beta amyloid that is thought to be toxic to neurons in the brain, leading to Alzheimer's. Since having high levels of LR11 prevents the toxic plaques from being made, low levels in patients are believed to be a factor in causing the disease.

    Alzheimer's is a debilitating neurodegenerative disease that causes memory loss, dementia, personality change and ultimately death. The national Alzheimer's Association estimates that 5.1 million Americans are currently afflicted with the disease and predicts that the number may increase to between 11 million and 16 million people by the year 2050.

    The researchers examined the effects of fish oil, or its component DHA, in multiple biological systems and administered the oil or fatty acid by diet and by adding it directly to neurons grown in the laboratory.

    "We found that even low doses of DHA increased the levels of LR11 in rat neurons, while dietary DHA increased LR11 in brains of rats or older mice that had been genetically altered to develop Alzheimer's disease," said Cole, who is also associate director of the Geriatric Research Center at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center.

    To show that the benefits of DHA were not limited to nonhuman animal cells, the researchers also confirmed a direct impact of DHA on human neuronal cells in culture as well. Thus, high levels of DHA leading to abundant LR11 seem to protect against Alzheimer's, Cole said, while low LR11 levels lead to formation of the amyloid plaques.

    Fish oil and its key ingredient, omega-3 fatty acids (found in fatty fish like salmon), have been a mainstay of alternative health practitioners for years and have been endorsed by the American Heart Association to reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease.

    Fatty acids like DHA are considered "essential" fatty acids because the body cannot make them from other sources and must obtain them through diet. Years of research have shown that DHA is the most abundant essential fatty acid in the brain, Cole said, and that it is critical to fetal and infant brain development. Studies have also linked low levels of DHA in the brain to cognitive impairment and have shown that lower levels may increase oxidative stress in the brains of Alzheimer's patients.

    Based on the positive results, the National Institutes of Health is currently conducting a large-scale clinical trial with DHA in patients with established Alzheimer's disease. For those patients, Cole said, it may be too late in the disease's progression for DHA to have much effect. But he is hopeful that the NIH will conduct a large-scale prevention clinical trial using fish oil at the earliest stages of the disease - particularly because it is unlikely that a pharmaceutical company will do so, since fish oil in pill form is readily available and inexpensive.

    Still to be determined, he said, "is what the optimal dose should be. It could be that a smaller amount might be helpful, especially in a place like the south of France, where people are already on a Mediterranean diet."

    Here in the United States, though, where fish consumption is not very high, the dose may need to be higher.

    "There's a deficiency of DHA to begin with," Cole said, "and this may contribute to the low LR11 seen in many Alzheimer's patients."

    http://www.ucla.edu/

    This is for the person asking about Alzheimer's.

    Marilyn
      




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  • Anonymous

    1/2/2008 6:43:00 PM |

    Hi Marilyn,

    Thanks for sharing the great information on fish oil/DHA!  I'm going to pass this on to my relative.

  • J. Michael

    1/3/2008 2:07:00 PM |

    It is rather difficult to find good D3-sources in Europe. Swanson's seems to be available; gelatine capsules although with a white powder inside. Are they any good?

  • Dr. Davis

    1/3/2008 9:08:00 PM |

    I do not advocate use of powder preparations of vit D. The absorption is simply too erratic. oil-based gelcaps are best.

  • moblogs

    1/4/2008 1:25:00 PM |

    I wonder what you think of this report? http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-01/bu-vdi010208.php I'm guessing that this is probably Hollick's idea of infiltration - get them to at least accept profitable D2 more before winning them over with D2.

    Also, last year I was prescribed 400IU of D2 which raised my 10nmol/L to 21nmol/L; in realising this is inadequate what would you recommend is a good plan for me?

  • Dr. Davis

    1/4/2008 1:35:00 PM |

    I don't know what to make of Holick's study. He is a source of reliable observations. However, his experience is dramatically different from my experience and that of many others. I have seen D2 have no effect whatsoever repeatedly. I had one woman who had been taking 50,000 units D2 per day have a blood level of D3 of 4 ng/ml.

    Most of my patients take somwhere in the 4000-6000 units per day of vit D3 to generate a blood level of 50-60 ng/ml.

  • Anonymous

    1/4/2008 4:35:00 PM |

    I saw the study about the vitamin D2 being just as good as D3 also.  Here is the link I read: http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/ng.asp?n=82331-vitamin-d-cholecalciferol-ergocalciferolI thought the article was interesting, until I read the part of the company that made the softgels.  I'd question  what where the Q/C of the content? Did an independent lab test the softgels?

  • Dr. Davis

    1/5/2008 1:52:00 AM |

    Excellent point.

    To me, there is absolutely no reason to take vit D2, given the uncertainty. It is not cheaper, more effective, nor more available. It may, however, be more profitable for a drug company. D3 is the human form; D2 is the plant form.

    Is there any reason at all to take D2? I don't think there is.

  • g

    1/7/2008 12:29:00 AM |

    Thanks for the information on Alzheimer's (AD) known now as 'Type 3 Diabetes.' It's conjectured that profound Insulin Resistance in the brain occurs prior to amyloid development in AD patients.  The brain can only use two types of fuel -- ketones (ie like during starvation) and glucose.  There appears to be a problem with excessive glucose.  Some neurobiologist experts believe a mildly ketotic diet may be beneficial for preventing this type of insulin resistance.

    Many benefits in recent studies have shown that fish oil significantly decreases IR associated with Type 2 Diabetes, NAFLD (a precursor to diabetes and believed to be a new indicator for Metabolic Syndrome, non-alcoholic fatty liver dz) and even cancers -- including prostate (shown by Vieth) and glioblastoma -- a rare malignant brain cancer -- thought to be incurable but now being 'cured' with fish oil (and tamoxifen, etc cocktail).

    Thanks ! !  g

  • g

    1/7/2008 4:36:00 PM |

    sorry -- Vieth is in vitro data -- don't know if in vivo data exists yet

  • Anonymous

    1/8/2008 12:23:00 PM |

    Seems word is leaking into the mainstream press about vitamin D.  Last night NBC Nightly News ran an article about the connection between low vitamin D levels and increased risk for heart disease.

  • Paul Kelly - 95.1 WAYV

    1/8/2008 7:28:00 PM |

    Hi Dr. Davis,

    I know that you recommend oil-based / gel caps for Vitamin D as opposed to tablets. Does the same hold true for daily multi-vitamins? Is a capsule and a gelcap the same thing?

  • Renee

    1/8/2008 8:57:00 PM |

    Wow another sickness that not enough Vitamin D is contributed to.  I just read an article at Here Comes The Sun talking about ways you can intake more Vitamin D.  Check it out.

  • Dr. Davis

    1/9/2008 3:33:00 AM |

    Paul--
    Vit D gelcaps contain oil. Gelcaps are capsules. However, not all capsules are gelcaps; some contain powder.

    Oil-based vitamins like A, D, and E are best taken as an oil. The D, for instance, in your multivitamin probably doesn't work at all, or absorption is erratic.

    Gelcaps are no more expensive, so why bother with tablet or powder forms?

  • moblogs

    1/21/2008 11:54:00 AM |

    Just wondered what your opinion on this anti-D report is? http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/1/prweb639651.htm

    For what it's worth, I think this guy is going too far. His Marshall Protocol might be entertainable for those with certain autoimmune diseases, but saying D is bad for everyone based on his *personal* model seems nuts. Furthermore, his basic assumption is that everyone with low D 'is' ill, rather than has the potential to. And yet we know treating D in associated illness restores health.

    Would this guy withhold blood because a bullet causes bleeding? No wonder he's not an MD.

  • Dr. Davis

    1/21/2008 1:05:00 PM |

    Is this guy from the same planet?

    I've witnessed such extraordinary effects of vitamin D replacement that, for me, there is no turning back. Thus far, the effects of vitamin D replacement have paralleled the effects of sun exposure (except for the tan, of course).

    For every new idea, there will always be those who protest. Some have validity, some are plain kooks.

  • Anonymous

    1/24/2008 3:40:00 AM |

    Dear Dr. Davis,

    Thank you for your support of Vitamin D. I recently was tested and found to have a level of 37. I do have a question or two, though. I was on the mega-dose (50000IU twice a week for four weeks).

    I am now on 2000IU per day (just started this past Sunday). I have all of the Metabolic Syndrome symptoms except the high glucose (my last fasting was 81).

    How long do you think I should continue on this does before I have my level checked again? And how long before I would start to see results?

    My doctor seems very concerned about my CRP (3.1), and I'm really hoping that this vit d. regime helps.
    Thank you.

  • Dr. Davis

    1/24/2008 12:50:00 PM |

    Unfortunately, the "mega-dose" you refer to probably yielding nothing--it was probably vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol). In my experience, this synthetic form fails to be converted to the active form in humans, D3.

    We wait at least 4 weeks before checking a blood level, ideally 8 weeks.

  • Linda

    7/20/2009 7:30:21 PM |

    Just found out that I have
    vitamin D deficiency.  I have
    neuropathy, muscle weakness
    and arthritis.
    I hope taking the 50,000 units
    three times a week helps.
    We must certainly need our D,
    I'm proof.

  • Anonymous

    1/16/2010 2:53:37 AM |

    I have been detected with high TSH levels - 6 (the thyroid hormones are within range)and low Vit D - 25.
    Additionally, my cholesterol is 223 (good one is 81).
    I also seem to be getting ovarian cysts.
    Is all this related?

  • Anonymous

    2/15/2010 1:20:25 PM |

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    9/27/2010 1:00:12 PM |

    Heart  disease is one of the most  dangerous disease which takes thousands of life every years all over the world. If we know its symptoms and Treatment for heart disease. We can prevent is to large extent.

  • buy jeans

    11/3/2010 6:51:49 PM |

    In short, metabolic syndrome creates a metabolic mess that leads to dramatic increases in heart disease, vascular disease and stroke, and cancer. The medical community has been paying increasingly greater attention to this condition because of its booming prevalence and because of the big bucks invested in "education" by the manufacturers of the diabetes and pre-diabetes drugs, particularly makers of Actos and Avandia.

  • liposculpture guide

    1/31/2011 4:15:52 AM |

    Vitamin D is proving to be a very important and powerful influence on many of the facets of the metabolic syndrome. Because the metabolic syndrome increases the risk of diabetes and cardiovascular disease, an adequate vitamin D level in the body might be important in the prevention of these diseases.

  • robrob

    2/5/2011 6:42:42 PM |

    I was wondering can you have a genetic compenont against making enough vit d by the sun? I bask in the sun for hours (since I love it so much and I am drawn to it like postive charge does to negative charge) yet I am d deficient, I suffer terrible metabolic syndrome, the whole nine yards just short of type 2. my doctor calls me prediabetic.

    I have even improved my diet big time over the last 3 years. lower gi, lower sat fat, more veggies etc. omega 3 fish oil

    I never use sunscreen and I never burn. just a nice light brown tan.I keep this tan by the way almost the whole winter. I started to take a cal vita d mag supplement chewables and I drink whole milk with it to make sure I absorb them being fat soluable and all. I can't expose my belly for more than a few minutes that will burn. ouch!

    being obese I am sure whatever cal vita d I take is going to end up in storage hoarding it an all. what can I do? I now drink more whole milk, eat organic bacon per suggestion from article the obesity epidemic is metabolic syndrome a nutritional deficiency. by stephanic seneff. real nice lady by the way.

    anyway slowly after implementing her suggestions my fasting hypoglycemic especially at night has improved, i don't run to the bathroom like i used to, I am more relaxed too. I have more energy, all this is a slow process not overnight. over many months.

    I don't have to eat at 3 in the morning anymore because of getting super hungry, nervous sweaty etc.

    but I still suffer some of the symptoms just not as severe. is there anything else I can do to speed up the improvments in mets?

    reduced cal diets do not work I get to hungry can't sleep and lose all energy. even a slight reduction which I have done makes me to hungry to sleep at night. or forces me up to eat after a couple of hours of sleep.

    forcing my body to get by on less caloires is not an option. (losing weight is always touted by my doctor to cure mets but mets was caused by my dieting history) I have lost hundreds of pounds over my 35 dieting history.

    I would like to hear any suggestions you may have. my doctor keeps pushing weight loss but that is what got me like this in the first place.

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