An exercise in optimism

Followers of the Track Your Plaque program already know that maintaining an optimistic viewpoint is important in gaining control over coronary plaque.

In fact, I believe that, in many cases, a sense of optimism may make or break your CT heart scan score-reducing efforts. Pessimists rarely drop their score, while optimists do so all the time.

This week posed a challenge to my optimism. I spent the last week on jury duty hearing the details of a murder case. For four days, I listened to blow-by-blow testimony about the totally pointless, unprovoked death of a young man by a drug-dealing thug. Much of the witness testimony was from people who shared the hopeless, violent world of the defendant.

I was, however, completely impressed by the dedication of the prosecuting attorney, a 50-some year old man who was clearly deeply dedicated to his mission and didn't once provide any indication that he was grandstanding or looking for some personal glory. He was doing his job and trying to obtain justice for the fallen victim. I was equally impressed by the judge, who seemed unfazed by the events but carefully explained why the system worked the way it did. After the trial, he provided some further insights to us jury members and I saw him as a human being who, like the prosecutor, was trying to make a small contribution to making the world better.

Though many of the witnesses who testified against the defendant shared his world, I was impressed with their courage in coming forward. They face the threat of reprisals, I'm sure, for coming forward to the law and testifying against a known career criminal. Several of them said that they were not after any reward, but simply wished to do the right thing and provide testimony that proved damning against the defendant.

I acted as the jury foreman and I was proud of how the jury members listened carefully, asked intelligent and probing questions, and then helped us render a confident and expeditious sentence: guilty.

If anything, despite the tragic circumstances, I was much heartened at how all the participants in this process played their part and justice (at least in the legal sense) was served.

Let optimism prevail, even in dire circumstances.

No need to re-invent the wheel

I seem to be repeating myself lately, but I think this does bear repeating:

There's no need to re-invent the wheel when it comes to gaining control over your heart scan score.

The Track Your Plaque program is the most powerful approach known to help you gain control over your coronary atherosclerotic plaque and CT heart scan score, bar none. While 100% of people do not drop their score, more and more people every week are doing so. (One of the admitted weaknesses of the Track Your Plaque website is our failure to list more success stories; we're working on it.)

The basic program is quite simple:

--The Rule of 60 for lipids (LDL 60 mg/dl; HDL 60 mg/dl or greater; triglycerides 60 mg/dl or less)

--Identify hidden causes of plaque, esp. small LDL, Lp(a), and IDL, followed by specific corrective action

--Fish oil--minimum 1200 mg per day of EPA + DHA

--Normal vitamin D3 blood levels (We aim for 25-OH-vitamin D3 of 50-60 ng/ml)

--Normal blood sugar (<100 mg/dl)

--Normal blood pressure (<130/80)

--An optimistic attitude



Much of the other stuff--vitamin K, matrix metalloproteinase reducing strategies, flavonoid strategies, exercise-induced hypertension, etc.--are, for the majority, fluff. Their real role is in people who may have failed in stopping the rise of their heart scan score just doing the basics of the program.

If you neglect the basics, hoping to find some magic potion, I'm afraid the overwhelming likelihood is that you will fail. I've seen it happen time and again. Someone will come to my office with an extraordinary list of supplements--hawthorne, dozens of anti-oxidants, EDTA, concentrated flavonoid preparations, and on and on. Not only is it shockingly expensive to do this, it's also unnecessary and foolhardy. This kind of unfocused, hocus-pocus in the hopes of getting it right fail time after time.

The Track Your Plaque program, while not foolproof, is the best I know of. Stick to the basics and wander off when the basics fail. But there's extraordinary power in just achieving the basics.

Are we a front for drug companies?

I was shocked recently when someone accused me and the Track Your Plaque website of being nothing more than a front for the drug industry, that we are promoting concepts with the hidden pharmacuetical agenda behind us.

Don't make me laugh. How in the world that kind of impression could be gotten from either the Heart Scan Blog or the Track Your Plaque website is beyond me.

But I occasionally do need to state explicity: We do not promote drugs, neither this Blog nor the Track Your Plaque website has ever sought nor been backed by pharmaceutical money. The only money that supports this website is our own and that from paying Track Your Plaque members.

In fact, I am quite proud of the unbiased content and commentary on both venues. I challenge anyone to point out how and where there is any suggested relationship to a hidden source of commercial backing. I assure you, there is none.

If I say a drug is worth you and your doctor considering, then I say so with a true belief in it, not because somebody or some company paid me to say so. If I say a drug stinks, I believe that too. If we use a specific supplement in the program, it's because we believe it truly adds value to a plaque-reversal program. We receive no money from drug, supplement, or other commercial interests to promote their products. Period.

What is "normal"?

When it comes to laboratory values and medical testing, a common dilemma is knowing what is "normal." Let me explain.

First of all, when you receive a laboratory result for a test, a "reference range" or "normal range" is usually provided. Where did that range come from?

It varies from test to test. For instance, a low potassium is easy, because low potassium levels can lead to life threatening consequences, e.g., dangerous heart rhythms. High potassium likewise, because dangerous phenomena develop when potassium generally exceeds 5.5 mg/dl or so.

But what about something like HDL or LDL. Here's where confusion reigns. Often, "normal" is obtained by taking the average and saying that any value plus or minus two standard deviations (remember that painful class?) represents normal or reference range.

If that were true, what if we applied that principle to body weight. If we weighed several thousand adult women, the average would be in the neighborhood of 172 lbs (no kidding). Does that mean that 172 lbs plus or minus two standard deviations is normal? No, of course not.

There is therefore a distinction between "normal" and "desirable". For HDL cholesterol, your laboratory report might say that an HDL cholesterol of 40-60 mg/dl is normal. But is it desirable? I don't think so. The most frequent HDL level for a male with a heart attack is 42 mg/dl--hardly desirable.

Let's take triglycerides. The average triglyceride level in the U.S. is somewhere around 140 mg/dl. For those of us who do a lot of lipoprotein testing, we can tell you that triglycerides at this level, though generally regarded as being within the normal range, are associated with flagrant and obvious excesses of several abnormal lipoprotein particles that contribute to coronary plaque growth (VLDL and often IDL; small LDL; drop in HDL and shift towards small HDL).

So, always take the so-called "normal" or "reference" values on a lab report as crude guidelines that often have little or nothing to do with health or desirability. Unfortunately, many physicians are not aware of this and will declare any value within the normal or reference range as okay. An HDL of 40 mg is not okay. A triglyceride level of 140 mg is also not okay.

What is okay? What is desirable? That depends on the parameter being examined. From a basic lipid standpoint, of course, we regard desirable as 60-60-60. Desirability from a lipoprotein standpoint we will cover in a more thorough Track Your Plaque Special Report in future.

The wisdom of the masses

My sister sent me these quotes:



"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."

Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962


"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."

Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929


"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."

Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre, France


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."

Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, US Office of Patents, 1899



No doubt, conventional wisdom can often be laughably (tragically?) wrong. The problem is that, as absurd as all the above sentiments seem to us now and in retrospect, they represented the view of many people years ago. These views were held by many, including many people in positions of power and decision-making responsibility.

A more relevant but nonetheless laughable and widely held belief in 2007: coronary heart disease should be treated with hospital procedures.

Why is a disease that requires 30 years to develop treated only at the final moments with a procedure? Do you only change your car's oil when the engine is on its last legs? Or, do periodic, relatively effortless oil changes during the life of the car make better sense?

I witness just how brainwashed the public has become with this crazed notion when I meet someone socially at, say a fundraiser or cocktail party. When they ask what I do, I tell them I'm a cardiologist. The invariable response: "Oh, what hospital do you work out of?"

I tell them I don't, that I take care of the majority of heart disease right from the office. 99% of the time I get a puzzled look. If we had comic bubbles above our heads revealing our internal thoughts, it would read "Yeah, right. What a kook."

The notion that coronary heart disease is something that is manageable with simple tools for the majority of us in the early stages is entirely foreign to almost everybody. The hospitals and the medical industry have so succeeded in dazzling the public with images of staff in scrubs, rushing from emergency to emergency, lights flashing, scalpels flying. . . how can you possibly accomplish this at home or anywhere outside of the high-tech world of the hospital?

Well, I'm a cardiologist and I do it every day. We all need a figurative dose of electroshock therapy to shake ourselves of this crazy notion.

How important is l-arginine?

Perhaps more than any other supplement, l-arginine causes frustration and confusion. It’s difficult to find, sometimes quite expensive, and some preparations cause loose stools.

Just how necessary is it?

L-arginine, you’ll recall, is a source of nitric oxide, or NO. Though it’s the same stuff as in car exhaust, NO provides a critical signaling role in your body’s cells that regulate a multitude of functions. Among the important roles of NO is to powerfully dilate, or relax, arteries. A constant flow of NO is required for health, particularly since each molecule persists only a few seconds.

L-arginine is the body’s source of nitric oxide. In addition, a peculiar but very effective blocker of l-arginine called asymmetric dimethylarginine, or ASDM, has recently been discovered to prevent the production of NO. Varied conditions like hypertension, diabetes, high cholesterol, excessive saturated fat or processed carbohydrate intake all lead to heightened levels of ASDM, often several-fold greater levels, and thereby effectively blocking NO production.

The “Arginine Paradox” is the name that some researchers in this field have given to the unusual property of l-arginine supplementation to “overpower” the blocking effects of ASDM. This is somewhat unusual in biologic systems in that an agent that blocks a receptor cannot usually be outmuscled by providing excess material for a reaction. Kind of like hoping that your car runs faster simply by topping up the gas tank.

Concrete observable benefits have been made for l-arginine in clinical trials, such as arterial relaxation that results in arterial enlargement (which can actually be seen in the cath lab); anti-inflammatory effects; reduction of blood pressure; enhancement of insulin responses, etc. All of these effects can be connected to beneficial properties that may facilitate atherosclerotic plaque regression and, indeed, there are limited data to document that this is true.

Drug companies may be greedy, but they’re not stupid. They’ve been vigorously pursuing this line of research for some years, a research path that led inadvertently to the erectile dysfunction agent, sildenafil (Viagra), and all its subsequent competitors. (Erectile dysfunction is another expression of endothelial dysfunction, since male erections are driven by the ability to dilate penile arteries.) The wonderful properties of NO enhancement continue to occupy research labs around the world.

Wow. So what’s the reluctance? In the early years of the Track Your Plaque program (meaning just a short 7-8 years ago), I was thoroughly convinced that l-arginine was a crucial, necessary part of a plaque regression program. Without it, you would rarely succeed. With it, the odds were tipped in your favor.

However, something curious has emerged recently. I’ve seen more and more people dropping their heart scan scores. Not just a little bit, but a huge amount. Witness our most recent record holder, Neal, who dropped his score 51% in 15 months. Just five years ago, this magnitude of reversal was unimaginable. Granted, Neal is our record holder, but others are obtaining 10, 18, 24, 30% drops in scores all the time. Many have done it without l-arginine.

Now, how about the people who have failed to stop a rising score? Would they do better with l-arginine as part of the mix? I believe so, but sometimes we never quite know except in retrospect. It has been a great dilemma for us trying to predict from the starting gate who will or who won’t drop their heart scan score.

My view from the trenches is that l-arginine packs its greatest atherosclerosis-fighting punch in the first year or two of use, when “endothelial dysfunction” is likely to be present (abnormal artery constriction). But as all other strategies take hold—fish oil, correction of lipid and lipoprotein abnormalities, weight loss (big effect), vitamin D (another very big effect), etc.—endothelial behavior improves over time. Perhaps l-arginine becomes a less necessary component over time.

There’s no doubt that uncertainty still surrounds the use and science surrounding l-arginine. However, if you’re interested in stacking the odds in your favor, particularly during the first year or two of your plaque-reducing efforts, I think that l-arginine is worth considering. It is cumbersome, it can be expensive, some preparations may even be foul. But in the big picture of life, with hospitals trying every possible ploy to get your body on a table for a procedure, doctors perverting their mission by signing employment contracts with hospitals and agreeing to usher you into the hospital as a paying patient whenever possible, and drug companies viewing you and me as a market for medications which may or may not be helpful, l-arginine is surely not that big a burden.

Track Your Plaque and non-commercialism

If you're a Track Your Plaque Member or viewer, you may know that we have resisted outside commercial involvement. We do not run advertising on the site, we do not allow drug companies to post ads, we do not covertly sponsor supplements. We do this to main the unbiased content of the site.

We've seen too many sites be tempted by the money offered by a drug company only to see content gradually drift towards providing nothing more than cleverly concealed drug advertising. I personally find this deceptive and disgusting. Ads are ads and everyone knows it. But when you subvert content, secretly driven by a commercial agenda, that I find abhorrent.

That said, however, I do wonder if we need the participation of some outside commercial interests to help our members. In other words, many (over half) of the questions and conversations we have with people is about what supplement to take, or what medication to take. While we cannot offer direct medical advice online (nor should we) because of legal and ethical restrictions, I wonder if could facilitate access to products.

Many people struggle, for instance, with trusted sources for l-arginine, vitamin D, fish oil. Other people struggle with finding a heart scan center because of the changing landscape of the CT scanning industry. Could we somehow provide a clear-cut segment of the website that clearly demarcates what is commercial and non-Track Your Plaque-originated, yet at least provides a starting place for more info?

Ideally, we would have personally tried and investigated everything there is out there applicable to the program. But that's simply impossible at this stage.

I feel strongly that we will never run conventional ads on the site. Nor will we ever permit any outside commercial interest to dictate what and how we say something. The internet world is full of places like that. Look at WebMD. I find the site embarassing in the degree of commercial bias there. We will NEVER sell out like that, regardless of the temptation. People with heart disease are all conducting a war with the commercial forces working to profit from them--hospitals, cardiologists, drug companies, medical device companies (yes, even they advertise to the public, e.g., implantable defibrillators--no kidding). Genuine, honest, unbiased information is sorely needed and not from some kook who either knows nothing about real people with real disease, or has a hidden agenda like selling you chelation.

I'd welcome any feedback either through this Blog or through the contact@cureality.com.

The nattokinase scam

A conversation about vitamin K2 commonly leads to confusion. Several people have asked about something called nattokinase.

The scientific data on the potential role of vitamin K2 deficiency in causing both osteoporosis and vascular calcification is fascinating. Along with vitamin D3, vitamin K2 may be an important factor in regulation of calcium metabolism. Supplementation may prove to be a major strategy for inhibition of vascular calcification.

Obtaining K2 in the diet is tricky, since it's present in just a handful of foods: egg yolks, liver, traditional cheeses, and natto. This is where the confusion starts.

Natto is a Japanese fermented soy product. I've had it and it's quite disgusting. Nonetheless, Japanese who eat natto experience less fracture. (A parallel study in heart disease has not been performed.) Natto is also a source of another substance called nattokinase.

Advocates (otherwise often known as supplement distributors) claim that nattokinase is a "fibrinolytic", or blood clot-dissolving, preparation that "improves blood flow, protects from blood clots, and prevents heart attacks and strokes."

Don't you believe it. This is patent nonsense. There are several problems with this rationale:

--Any oral fibrinolytic agent is promptly degraded in the highly acid environment of the stomach. That's why all medically used fibrinolytics are given intravenously. Drug companies have struggled for years to encapsulate, modify, or somehow protect protein (or polypeptide) products taken orally from degrading this way. They've never succeeded. That's why, for instance, growth hormone (a polypeptide) remains an injection, not an oral agent. An oral growth hormone, by the way, would sell like mad, so the drug companies would very much like to figure out how to bypass the degradative effects of stomach acid. One of the "researchers" behind the nattokinase claims boasts that he has single-handedly figured out how to protect the nattokinase molecule in the gastrointestinal tract. However, he won't tell anybody how he does it. Right.

--Fibrinolytic agents are extremely dangerous. In years past, we used to treat heart attacks with intravenous fibrinolytic agents like tissue plasminogen activator, urokinase, streptokinase, and others. They have fallen by the wayside, for the most part, because of limited effectiveness and the unavoidable dangers of their use. Fibrinolytics are "dumb": they dissolve blood clots in both good places and bad. While they might dissolve the blood clot causing your heart attack, they also degrade the tiny clot in your cerebral (brain) circulation that was protective. That's why fatal brain hemorrhages, bleeding stomach ulcers, and blood oozing from strange places can also occur with fibrinolytic administration. Believe me, I've seen it happen, and I've watched people die from them.

The idea that a small dose taken orally is healthy is ridiculous. Even if nattokinase worked, why the heck would you take an agent that has known dangerous and very real consequences?

Don't let this idiocy reflect poorly on the K2 conversation, which, I believe, holds real merit and is backed by legitimate science. This is symptomatic of a larger difficulty with the supplement industry: Insane and unfounded claims about one supplement erodes credibility for the entire industry. It gives regulation-crazed people like the FDA ammunition to go after supplements, something none of us need. You and I have to sift through the nonsense to uncover the real gems in this rockpile, real gems like vitamin D3, omega-3 fatty acids from fish oil, and, perhaps, vitamin K2. But not nattokinase.

Blood pressure with exercise

Here's a frequently neglected cause for an increasing CT heart scan score: High blood pressure with exercise. Let me explain.

Paul's blood pressure at rest, sitting in the office or on arising in the morning, or at other relatively peaceful moments: 110/75 to 130/80--all in the conventional normal range.

We put Paul on the treadmill for a stress test. At 10 mets of effort (on the protocol used, this means 3.4 mph treadmill speed at 14 degree incline), Paul's blood pressure skyrockets to 220/105. That's really high.

Now, blood pressure is expected to increase with exercise. If it doesn't rise, that's abnormal and may, in fact, be a sign of danger. Normally, blood pressure should rise gradually in a stepwise fashion with increasing levels of exercise. But any blood pressure exceeding 170/90 is clearly too high with exercise. (Not to be confused with high blood pressures not involving exercise.) A handful of studies have suggested that a "breakpoint" of 170/90 also predicts heightened risk of heart attack over a long period.)

I see this phenomenon frequently--normal blood pressure at rest, high with exercise. This also suggests that when Paul is stressed, upset, in traffic congestion, under pressure at work, etc., his blood pressure is high during those periods, as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see other phenomena of underappreciated high blood pressure, like abnormally thick heart muscle (left ventricular hypertrophy), an enlarged thoracic aorta (visible on your heart scan), left atrium, perhaps even an abnormal EKG or abnormal kidney function (evidenced by an elevated creatinine on a standard blood panel).

Unfortunately, the treatments that reduce blood pressure are "stupid," i.e., they have no appreciation for what you are doing and they reduce blood pressure all the time, whether or not you're stressed, exercising, or sleeping.

Blood pressure reduction should begin with weight loss, exercise, reduction of saturated fats and processed carbohydrates (esp. wheat), magnesium replacement, vitamin D replacement. Think about CoQ10. After this, blood pressure medication might be necessary.

The message: Watch out for the blood pressures when you have a stress test. Or, if you have a friend who is adept at getting blood pressures, get a blood pressure immediately upon ceasing exercise. It should be no higher than 170/90.

Vitamin D2 vs. vitamin D3

An interesting question came up on the Track Your Plaque Member Forum about vitamin D2 vs. vitamin D3. This often comes up among our patients, as well.

Vitamin D is measured in the blood as 25-OH-vitamin D and is distinct from 1,25-diOH-vitamin D, a kidney measure, a test you do not need unless you have kidney failure.

The human form of vitamin D is cholecalciferol and is usually obtained via activation of a precursor molecule in the skin on activation by the sun. You can also take cholecalciferol and it increases blood levels of 25-hydroxy vitamin D reliably.

However, there is a cheap, plant-sourced, alternative to vitamin D3, called vitamin D2, or ergocalciferol. D2 has far less effect in the body. Taking D2 or ergocalciferol orally is an extremely inefficient way to get D. Unfortunately, it's the form often used in milk and many supplements, even the prescription form of D. About half the multivitamins and calcium supplements I've looked at contain ergocalciferol rather than cholecalciferol.

Taking vitamin D2 yields very little conversion to the effective D3. This particular issues is maddening, as the USDA requires dairy farmers to add 100 units of vitamin D to milk, and D2 is often used. In other words, the D in many dairy products barely works at all. There are many children who rely on D from dairy products who are at risk for rickets and are not getting the D they need from dairy products because of this cost-saving switch. Do not rely on milk for vitamin D for your children.

D2 or ergocalciferol is often included in the blood measures of vitamin D along with vitamin D3. The only reason it's checked with blood work is to ensure "compliance,", i.e., see whether or not you're taking a prescribed ergocalciferol. Beyond this, it has no usefulness.

25-OH-vitamin D3, or cholecalciferol, is both the blood measure and the supplement you need. This is the one that packs all the punch. Keep in mind also that it is the oil-based gelcap you want, with more consistent and efficient absorption. Tablets usually barely work at all, even if it contains cholecalciferol. Most people who take calcium tablets with D, or multivitamin with D, not only are getting a powdered form of D, but also in trivial doses. It's the pure vitamin D3, cholecalciferol, in gelcap form you want if you desire all the spectacular benefits of vitamin D.
Iodine deficiency is REAL

Iodine deficiency is REAL

Like many health-conscious people, Kurt avoids salt. In fact, he has assiduously avoided salt ever since his heart attack back in 1995.

Lately, Kurt had become tired, often for little or no reason. His thyroid panel:

TSH 4.2 mIU/L (0.27-4.20)
Free T3 1.74 pg/ml (2.50-4.30)
Free T4 1.05 ng/dl (0.9-1.7)

Kurt's TSH of 4.2 mIU/L is sufficient to increase LDL cholesterol by 20-30% and increase the (relative) risk for heart attack 3-fold.

Kurt's thyroid was also palpably enlarged. While it was just barely visible--just a minor bulge in the neck (in the shape of a bowtie), it could be clearly felt when I examined him.

I asked Kurt to add 500 mcg of iodine every day. Three months later, another thyroid panel showed:

TSH 0.14 mIU/L (0.27-4.20)
Free T3 2.50 pg/ml (2.50-4.30)
Free T4 1.1 ng/dl (0.9-1.7)

Kurt's thyroid function normalized to nearly ideal levels just with iodine replacement. (The free T3, while improved, remains low; an issue for another day!)

I see this response with some frequency: low-grade goiter and apparent hypothyroidism (low thyroid function) that responds, at least partially, to iodine replacement. In Kurt's case, iodine replacement alone normalized his thyroid measures completely.

With improved thyroid measures, Kurt also felt better with renewed energy and a 22 mg/dl reduction in LDL cholesterol.

Make no mistake: Iodine deficiency is real. While most of my colleagues have dismissed iodine deficiency as a relic of the early 20th century and third world countries, you can also find it in your neighborhood.

Comments (30) -

  • Sabio Lantz

    8/21/2009 11:01:05 AM |

    What source do you recommend for iodine and what maintainance dose?

    I started my paleo diet/lifestyle on Jan 5, 2009 and got labs done TSH: 2.790 (0.270-4.200) Someone commented that I may need Free T3 & T4 for further eval.  I would like to try inc. my iodine since I don't use salt.

    Thank you  (my full labs are here -- I am also looking into the cholesterol)

  • Jenny

    8/21/2009 11:11:36 AM |

    Dr Davis,

    I was supplementing with kelp until I read about the arsenic levels found in kelp supplements. Arsenic is a known contributor to diabetes.

    I contacted the supplement company and they gave me a run around about the arsenic level. They wouldn't deny it but tried to make it sound like it wasn't anything to worry about.

    I wasn't at all happy about this, especially since so many supplements are contaminated with a lot of other substances since they aren't regulated.

    Is there any way to get iodine that doesn't expose us to unnecessary amounts of arsenic?

  • Dr. William Davis

    8/21/2009 11:57:30 AM |

    Hi, Jenny--

    There are many iodine supplements, such as potassium iodide drops, available widely in health food stores.

    Alternatively, of course, you could make a habit of eating kombu or wakame, rich seaweed sources of iodine widely consumed in Japan and available in Oriental food stores or even Whole Foods.

  • steve

    8/21/2009 3:04:48 PM |

    would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on Free T3 measurement.  Many doctors will measure Free t4, and only total free T3 saying there is not much difference between Free T3 and total T3 measurements.  Small protein binding or something to that effect.  Thanks.

  • Nameless

    8/21/2009 4:38:46 PM |

    Would the RDA levels of iodine in multivitamins be enough to defend against a deficiency?

    Are there absorption issues from this form?

  • Ross

    8/21/2009 9:49:06 PM |

    I bought some technical grade potassium iodide, some 99.9% metallic iodine and a dropper bottle and made some 50% strength Lugol's iodine.  The recipe is: 2.5g iodine, 5g potassium iodine, add water to total weight of 100g.  I found the full strength solution wasn't dissolving so went for half strength, which still took about a day to finish dissolving.

    This makes for about 3.25mg effective iodine per drop (which is quite a bit).  I add one drop of 50% Lugol's to the milk I use to take my vitamins at breakfast.  After three months of that, my dropper bottle is barely lower, but my thyroid panel is notably healthier (was at the bottom edge of "normal" T3/T4).

    Also, this stuff is CHEAP!  The $30 worth of iodine/potassium iodide that I bought (100g I2, 200g KI) will make about 4 liters of 50% Lugol's (~80,000 drops).  I've got enough to give myself and my wife a drop a day for the rest of our lives, and have enough left over to make a few dozen 10-day anti-radiation KI courses (130mg/day or 1.3g/course).

    I2 is picky about the container (teflon or glass with an airtight seal) but dry KI just needs to be kept dry and cool in a small tupperware container and it's shelf life is "indefinite".

  • Dr. William Davis

    8/21/2009 11:45:48 PM |

    Steve--

    Free T3 deficiency will, I believe, prove to be among the most important factors acting as a coronary risk factor.

    Plenty more on this issue to come in future.

  • ChloeJ

    8/22/2009 4:40:51 AM |

    Taking your ideas to heart about iodine deficiency, I thought I would try seaweed snacks (now I wish I remember where I read about them) and ordered from Amazon based on reviews...Long story short:  Love them.

    So much I love them, I just signed up for the 5 box (24 in a box)monthly automatic delivery (2 of the boxes go to my household assistant who has a number of foreign exchange students over the years as part of the church ministry she belongs to, and one student from Korea introducted her to these dried, salted seaweed called nori or kim).  We did a taste test by buying from a local asian/Korean grocery and I was dismayed to find all 5 kinds we bought had corn oil listed as an ingredient, so we are sticking with the Amazon delivery as it is nori, sesame oil, and sea salt. Low carb, low calorie, I think low sodium (60 mg) for whatever floats your diet boat.  

    Still I will look into Lugol's or pharmaceutical grade potassium iodine.  One concern:  An upper limit to iodine intake?  I have not seen any data. Thanks.

  • JD

    8/22/2009 12:17:21 PM |

    Off topic but wonder if you have seen this study?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090820124038.htm

    Type 1 Diabetes Linked To Immune Response To Wheat

  • Dr. William Davis

    8/22/2009 3:54:04 PM |

    The upper range of dosing for iodine is a hotly-contested question.

    For example, take a look at what Dr. David Brownstein (put his name in Google) says. He uses doses of 50 mg (50,000 mcg) or more.

  • TedHutchinson

    8/22/2009 4:24:03 PM |

    Organic versus Inorganic Arsenic in Herbal Kelp Supplements
    Although the report has several methodologic shortcomings, the most serious flaw is the authors’ failure to recognize that the arsenic most commonly found in seaweed and seafood products is relatively nontoxic.
    This is in contrast to inorganic arsenic, which has well-documented acute and chronic toxicity.
    Amster et al. (2007) did not discuss the possibility that the arsenic measured in the kelp supplement was in the organic form, nor did they address the great variability in toxicity among arsenic compounds.
    These two oversights lead to the unsupported conclusion that the arsenic found in kelp is responsible for the unique set of medical conditions observed in their patient.


    The full text is online and it is worth reading.

  • TedHutchinson

    8/22/2009 4:51:49 PM |

    Sorry I meant to add
    this is the form of kelp I use $3.76 and code WAB666 would save you $5 if you ordered something else as well.
    How about being really extravagant and ordering a years 360 X 5000iu Vitamin D3 olive-oil based gelcaps for $14.98
    2 years supply of iodine + 1yrs vitamin d3 for less than $20.
    UK readers may be interested to know the cheapo German supermarket Lidl does iodised salt for 15p pack, it's probably worth decanting it into a airtight container as kitchens can be humid and iodine in salt will not be stable over time so Salt Pigs are possibly not the best way to retain the iodine in iodised salt.

  • Nameless

    8/22/2009 6:13:17 PM |

    I'm going to ask my doctor for a script for an iodine test next time I see him. I think a 24 hour, urine test is the only way to measure it properly. Serum isn't so accurate, if I remember right, although it certainly would be less of a hassle.

    Anyone know what is the optimal level of iodine status? Top of normal range, or anywhere in range?

  • David

    8/22/2009 7:49:25 PM |

    I take a couple drops per day of an iodine supplement called "Iosol," and I really like it. It's only 12 bucks a bottle (1,830 mcg per drop, 610 drops per bottle). You can find it here: http://www.iherb.com/TPCS-Iosol

    It's not potassium iodide, but rather a combination of iodine (extracted from kelp as unbound iodine) and ammonium iodide. Some think this is better than potassium iodide. You can read why here: http://www.byronrichards.com/index.php/thyroid_leptin/entry/what_is_iosol_iodine/

  • billye

    8/22/2009 8:20:10 PM |

    Hi Jenny,

    I supplement with 325 mcg Kelp caps from Now.  Amster et al. 2007 reports that the arsenic most commonly found in seaweed and seaweed products is relatively non-toxic. For example,the level of concern for total arsenic in crustaceans is 86 ppm,a concentration 10 times higher than  the amount found in kelp supplements.  I had diabetes type 2 for 20 years.  My last 3 A1c tests indicated levels of 4.7, 4.8 and 5.0.  So much for contribution to diabetes.

  • Daniel

    8/23/2009 6:59:47 AM |

    Thank you for making light of this!

    Iodine & Vitamin D supplementation is making a dramatic difference in the way I feel. Mood and concentration have improved, not to mention my blood pressure has normalised (especially around meal time).

    Get your levels tested and if in doubt!

  • Dr. William Davis

    8/23/2009 2:30:19 PM |

    Thanks, Ted. Great summary of the evidence.

    Also, the Japanese include kombu, wakame, and other seaweeds in their daily diet in quantities that far exceed a kelp tablet or two without arsenic toxicity.

  • David Gillespie

    8/24/2009 1:42:57 AM |

    you might be interested in this article on the relationship between increased fructose consumption and iodine deficiency: http://www.raisin-hell.com/2009/06/why-iodine-is-being-added-to-your-daily.html

  • Gloria Ives

    8/24/2009 3:22:59 AM |

    Can you address sea salt use? I've steered completely away from table salt and into sea salt. Some sea salt, such as the pink Himalayan variety, boasts something like 80 some odd minerals present in it. Is there adequate iodine in sea salts, if any?

  • steve

    8/24/2009 1:35:55 PM |

    would be interested in hearing from Chole J which of the healthy seaweed snacks she gets from Amazon

  • homertobias

    8/25/2009 1:16:15 AM |

    My take on Nori:  It is basically a potatoe chip from the sea.  So it has iodine in it, so the arsenic may not be harmful.  So.....what oil did they use?  Sesame oil is not that good for you.  Did they keep the oil below it's smoke point?  How often do they change it?  Where did the seaweed come from?  Downstream from the Chinese Drywall factory? Even sushi grade Nori smells rancid to me.  No thanks, I just don't think it is a health food.

  • Sabio Lantz

    8/25/2009 2:10:54 AM |

    This site info is great !  Thanx all.  In case you plan to make your own mixture (I do, eventually), people may think you are actually a trouble maker and not a health nut:  I learned that Iodine is use illegally to make d-methamphetamine.  Here is a govt site telling of that issue.   Who'd have guessed !
    Smile.

  • Anna

    8/25/2009 4:21:39 PM |

    You can buy "wild crafted" seaweed from domestic sources in remote California or Maine sources if you want to avoid unknown sources from overseas.

    I have a variety of hand harvested and naturally dried seaweed products from Mendocino Sea Veggetable Company (www.seaweed.net).   They sell a small booklet with recipes, too.  

    We especially love the Mendocino Miracle Mix (ground mixed seaweeds) sprinkled over our morning eggs.  I put MMM in everything from homemade condiments (mayonnaise, ketchup, mustard and salsa) to soups.  MMM is also great mixed 30/30/30% with coarse Mendocino or Atlantic sea salt  and sesame seeds for a great seasoning shake.

    There is another company I haven't yet tried, but it is also recommended by a Mendocino friend, Ocean Harvest Sea Vegetable Company http://www.ohsv.net/ .

    I add some kombu to my homemade bone broths and often add crunchy dried seaweed to salads instead of croutons.  Some seaweeds can be soaked  a few minutes to plump back up and tossed into a salad.  When I make sashimi I also serve a salad of just seaweed with a ginger-(wheat-free) raw tamari vinaigrette.   Once you get over the unfamiliarity with sea vegetable it becomes quite ordinary and not much different to eat than land vegetables.

  • Melissa

    9/1/2009 8:16:38 PM |

    I ended up with hypotension from cutting out salt in my paleo diet and it was not fun. I now eat seaweed, but you have to be careful with that too. A seaweed-loving friend of mine now has hyperthyroidism!

  • Sabio Lantz

    9/1/2009 9:56:15 PM |

    Yeah, thanx Melissa -- everyone is tempted to recommend a "one-size-fits-all" diet but I bet it is more complicated than that.
    All this feedback is very helpful.  
    One person says take tons of iodine, the next says it can cause thyroid disorders, we must be very careful when taking advice on the internet (or anywhere else, for that matter).

  • trinkwasser

    9/10/2009 3:04:27 PM |

    Thanks for the reminder, I've been trying various seaweeds and sea vegetables but ran out while the local samphire was in season (I think it was a previous post by Anna that turned me on to these), I just put them on tomorrow's shopping list.

  • kris

    11/2/2009 11:52:41 PM |

    Dr. Davis,
    I dont know where to put this article, which is  helpfull in the times of H1N1. I am just going to copy it here and leave it for you to decide the place for this please.
    Vitamin D is also is major immune system booster.
    http://www.starfireresearch.com/health/topics/swineflu.html

    Iodine: the Forgotten Weapon
    Against Influenza Viruses


    David Derry, MD, PhD
    332 – 425 Simcoe Street
    Victoria BC V8V 4T3

    Correspondence: Dr. David Derry dderry@shaw.ca


    Background: After the 1918 Influenza Pandemic which killed an estimated 30 million people, governments financed research on the Pandemic’s causes. Over 25 years, influenza viruses were isolated and methods for killing them with various agents discovered. Iodine was the most effective agent for killing viruses, especially influenza viruses. Aerosol iodine was found to kill viruses in sprayed mists, and solutions of iodine were equally effective. In 1945, Burnet and Stone found that putting iodine on mice snouts prevented the mice from being infected with live influenza virus in mists. They suggested that impregnating masks with iodine would help stop viral spread. They also recommended that medical personnel have iodine-aerosol-treated rooms for examination and treatment of highly infected patients. Current methods of dealing with influenza infection are isolation, hand washing, antiviral drugs, and vaccinations. All of these methods can be improved by incorporating iodine into them. When impregnated with iodine, masks become much more effective, and hand washing is more effect when done with mild iodine solutions. Isolation techniques coupled with aerosol iodine would make them safer for patients, medical personnel, and all persons working with the public. Public health authorities could organize the distribution of iodine and at the same time educate the public in the effective use of iodine. Oral iodine might also boost body defense mechanisms in the upper oral and respiratory mucus. Conclusion: Iodine incorporated into masks, solutions, aerosols, and oral preparations could help to kill influenza viruses and fight off an H1N1 Pandemic.

    Keywords. H1N1 • Influenza virus • iodine • aerosols • immunization • isolations • masks • prevention

    Derry, D.: Iodine: the Forgotten Weapon Against Influenza Viruses.

  • A C

    5/18/2010 5:21:46 PM |

    I wonder if eliminating gluten would clean up that T3 issue. Yesterday I read that Celiac Disease can cause hypothyroidism.

  • buy jeans

    11/3/2010 12:23:22 PM |

    Kurt's thyroid function normalized to nearly ideal levels just with iodine replacement. (The free T3, while improved, remains low; an issue for another day!)

  • Katie

    8/4/2011 8:45:17 PM |

    Jenny!
    I just started the NOW kelp w/ dulse caps, 325mcg iodine.  How do they work for you?  The supplement world is soooo confusing and overwhelming!!  I'm wondering if I can take two of these a day, one in am and one in pm?
    Thanks for any insight you can provide!
    Katie

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