Heart scan curiosities 1

Heart scans often reveal more than coronary plaque. From time to time, I'll show some curious findings that people have displayed during routine heart scans.

This 65-year old man had a relatively low heart scan score of 73, but showed an impressive quantity of calcification of his pericardium, the usually soft-tissue sack that encases the heart. The calcified pericardium is the white arcs that surround the heart in the center of the image.



Thankfully, because he's without any symptoms of breathlessness, excessive fatigue, or leg swelling, he won't need to have it surgically corrected. When the pericardium becomes rigid and encircles the heart, it can literally squeeze the heart, a condition called "constrictive pericarditis". The surgery is pretty awful.

This man's calcified pericardium likely resulted from one or more viral infections over his lifetime.

Annual physical

A judge who lives in my neighborhood was found dead in his bed this week from a heart attack. He was 49 years old. His teenage kids found him and performed CPR, but he was cold and long-gone by then.

A close friend of the judge told me that he'd passed an annual physical just weeks before.

This sort of tragedy shouldn't happen. It is easily--easily--preventable. Had this man undergone a heart scan, a score of at least 400 if not >1000 would have been uncovered, and appropriate preventive action could have been taken. The conversation could have centered around the strategies to correct the patterns that triggered his plaque and how he could reduce his score.

Of course, hospitals make use of stories like this to fuel fear that brings hordes to their wards for procedures. Would the judge have required a procedure to save his life, had his heart disease been diagnosed at his annual physical? Not necessarily. Hospitals and cardiologists would try to persuade you that procedures have an impact on mortality. This is simply not true. In fact, the mortality benefits of procedures are questionable except in the midst of acute illness (e.g., unstable chest pain symptoms or heart attack).

Don't be falsely reassured by passing a physical. A physical does nothing to screen you for heart disease. An EKG and stress test, if included, is a lame excuse for heart disease screening. Remember that a stress test is a test of coronary blood flow, not for the presence of coronary plaque. The unfortunate judge most likely had a 30% "blockage" that did not block flow, but ruptured and closed an artery off sometime in the night when he died. A stress test even on the day of his death would not have predicted this.

A CT heart scan would have uncovered it easily, unequivocally, safely.

A curious case of regression

Randi came to me at age 43. Before I'd met her, she'd undergone two heart scans about one year apart. The initial score was 57--not terribly high, but very high for a 41-year old, pre-menopausal female. Recall that rarely do women have any heart scan score above zero before age 50. Randi's 2nd scan had yielded a score of 72, a 27% increase.

Randi even had her lipoproteins assessed and she had the dreaded Lp(a). So when I met her, we discussed the possible choices in Lp(a) treatment: niacin and estrogens as primary treatment, along with LDL reduction to rock-bottom numbers, along with adjunctive DHEA, almonds, ground flaxseed, and fish oil. Sandi was okay with the adjunctive treatments and was already slender and active (BMI <25), and did not show Lp(a)'s evil partner, small LDL. But Randi had no interest in estrogens, even bio-identical preparations, because of the usual uncertainties associated with estrogen replacement. She also proved to be one of the people truly intolerant to anything but the most minute dose of niacin, experiencing prolonged flushing and abdominal cramps with any dose >250 mg.

Randi even attempted a trial of the Mathias Rath concoction of high-dose vitamin C, lysine, and proline as treatment for Lp(a), but we saw no effect on Lp(a).

Unfortunately, this left Randi's Lp(a) essentially uncorrected. Another scan one year later: 90, another 25% increase. 18 months after that, another scan: 120, a 30% increase.

Now 47-years old, Randi had resigned herself to not being able to control her plaque. We'd run out of options. At that point, I'd started to have everyone's vitamin D blood level assessed and then replaced with vitamin D. I did this with Randi, too.

A year after her last scan, she underwent another. The score: 92, a 23% reduction--substantial reversal following a course of unrelenting progression.

Randi and I, of course, both rejoiced with this unexpected success. But it raised some interesting questions: How important is Lp(a) when vitamin D is normalized and small LDL is not a part of the picture? How consistent with regression be with this strategy over time? Would normalization of vitamin D have stopped plaque from becoming established in the first place?

I hope these issues will clarify over time. For now, I'm thrilled with Randi's success. She remains on her present, "incomplete", though successful program.

Note: I would not ordinarily advise a young woman to undergo serial heart scanning with this frequency. Randi had unusual access to a scan center through a relationship with the staff. I am nonetheless grateful for the lessons her experience have taught us.

Fortune teller

Whenever your doctor uses your cholesterol values--total, LDL, HDL, triglycerides--to judge your heart disease risk, he/she is trying to act as your fortune teller.

In some states, fortune telling is illegal, a misdemeanor. The New York State lawbooks say:

A person is guilty of fortune telling when, for a fee or compensation which he directly or indirectly solicits or receives, he claims or pretends to tell fortunes, or holds himself out as being able, by claimed or pretended use of occult powers, to answer questions or give advice on personal matters or to exorcise, influence or affect evil spirits or curses; except that this section does not apply to a person who engages in the aforedescribed conduct as part of a show or exhibition solely for the purpose of entertainment or amusement.
(Source : Wikipedia)

Rather than occult powers, your physician claims to use "medical judgement" to tell your fortune. Except for that distinction, it might be construed as a misdemeanor.


Let's take three typical examples:

58-year old Laura has a high LDL of 195 mg/dl. Her HDL is 52 mg/dl, triglycerides 197 mg/dl. Does she have heart disease?

51-year old Jonathan has an LDL of 174 mg/dl, HDL 34 mg/dl, triglycerides 156 mg/dl. Does Jonathan have heart disease?

71-year old Marian has an LDL cholesterol of 135 mg/dl, HDL 84 mg/dl, triglycerides of 67 mg/dl.

None of the three have symptoms. They all feel well. Nobody is taking a statin cholesterol drug or other agent that would modify the numbers. Jonathan is around 30 lbs overweight. Nobody has an impressive family history of heart disease.

Can you tell who has heart disease and who doesn't? If you can, you're smarter than I am, because I certainly can't tell. But your doctor tries to divine your future by looking at these numbers.

Do they know something that we don't know? No. It's a crude odds game, a guessing game. A guessing game that frequently comes up on the losing end.

These are three real people. Laura, despite her high LDL, has no identifiable coronary heart disease. Jonathan has advanced coronary disease. These were his numbers just prior to his stent. Marian has a moderate quantity revealed by a CT heart scan score of 419.

Don't even try predicting your future from your cholesterol numbers--it simply can't be done. Every day, I see patients and physicians beating their heads over this dilemma. Telling your fortune using pretended occult powers is illegal. Telling your fortune using cholesterol numbers should be, too.

If you want to know if you have coronary plaque, that's the role of the CT heart scan. Plain and simple.

Heart scan score drops like a stone

Matt was dumbfounded when he found out about his heart scan score of 317 in the summer of 2005.

Earlier that year he'd unintentionally lost 20 lbs. in the space of two months and was feeling awful. He was diagnosed with diabetes and put on several medications. He told me that the heart scan score was just adding insult to injury.

As you'd expect in someone with diabetes, Matt had a low HDL, increased triglycerides, and small LDL. Blood pressure and inflammation (C-reactive protein) were issues as well.

Matt's primary care physician had put him on a statin cholesterol drug as soon as he heard about Matt's heart scan score, so we kept this going. What Matt's primary care physician didn't know was that his "true" LDL had been much higher than the conventional calculated LDL had suggested, so the statin agent was a reasonable solution. (Matt was also not terribly motivated to make dramatic changes in lifestyle or food choices. The statin drug was a compromise.)

We added fish oil and vitamin D to his regimen. Though recent data have cast doubt on the value of treating homocysteine levels of around 12.5, Matt's much higher value of 28 was treated with vitamins B6, B12, and folic acid, with a resultant homocysteine of 7.6.

17 months into the Track Your Plaque approach, and Matt's repeat heart scan score: 244, a 23% reduction.

How's that for an early Christmas gift?

"You don't have a uterus. You don't need progesterone"

I was talking with a hospital nurse recently who told me about her lack of energy, blue moods, and other assorted complaints. At age 49, she was exasperated. So I suggested that she ask her gynecologist about progesterone cream.

The gynecologist advised her, "You don't have a uterus. You don't need progesterone." He went on to explain that the only reason to take progesterone was to prevent uterine cancer caused by estrogen.

Then what about progesterone's weight loss benefits? It's effects on increased energy, improved mood, deeper sleep? These benefits, of course, have nothing to do with the uterus.

I've witnessed these benefits in women many times, both in the peri-menopausal period (which starts around your late 30's) and menopause.

Why talk about progesterone when our focus is heart disease and reduction of heart scan scores? Because if progesterone in a woman helps her feel better, more upbeat, and accelerates weight loss, she's more likely to succeed in her plaque-control program.

For additional comments on progesterone, read the Track Your Plaque interview with women's hormone expert, Dr. Nisha Jackson, Females, hormones, and weight control:
An interview with Dr. Nisha Jackson
found at http://www.cureality.com/library/fl_04-008njacksonhormones.asp. Dr. Jackson also has a book available called "The Hormone Survival Guide to Perimenopause".







Or, read Dr. John Lee's pioneering books, What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause: The Breakthrough Book on Natural Hormone Balance and What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Premenopause: Balance Your Hormones and Your Life from Thirty to Fifty . (An edition that combines the two books is available, also.)

Take a niacin "vacation"

I've been seeing a curious niacin phenomenon that has not, to my knowledge, been reported anywhere in the medical literature.

People with lipoprotein(a), or Lp(a), are best treated with niacin, particularly given the relative lack of other effective therapies. I now have seen approximately 10 people with great initial responses to niacin, only to observe Lp(a) levels slowly drift back up to the starting level over a period of 2-3 years.

In other words, if starting Lp(a) is 200 nmol/l (approximately 80 mg/dl), drops to 70 nmol/l on niacin. Then, over 2-3 years of treatment, it drifts back to 200 nmol/l. Very frustrating.

Somehow, your body's Lp(a) manufacturing mechanism circumvents the niacin, sort of like antibiotic resistance (without the bacteria, of course).

My response to this, though untested, is to have people take an occasional "niacin vacation". I don't mean take a trip to the Bahamas while on niacin. I mean take 2 weeks off from niacin every three months or so. My hope is that the occasional vacation from niacin will allow the body to continue to respond and suppress "resistance". When resuming niacin, you may have to escalate the dose gradually to avoid re-provoking the "flush".

The same "resistance" seems to develop to testosterone in males: an initial drop followed by a gradual increase. Curiously, I've not seen this in females with estrogens, which seems to generate a durable Lp(a) suppressing effect. For this reason, an occasional testosterone "vacation" might also be considered.

So far, I've advised several people to try this. The long-term success or failure, however, is uncertain. I know of no other solutions, however.

If you have Lp(a) and are on long-term niacin, you should consider talking about this issue with your physician. Like many aspects of Lp(a), while fascinating in its complexity, much remains uncertain. Stay tuned.

When LDL is more than meets the eye

Jerry wanted to know what to do with his LDL cholesterol of 112 mg/dl. "My doctor said that it's not high but it could be better."

So I asked him what the other numbers on his lipid panel showed. He pulled out the results:

LDL cholesterol 112 mg/dl

HDL 32 mg/dl

Triglycerides 159 mg/dl


I pointed out to Jerry that, given the low HDL and high triglycerides, his calculated LDL of 112 was likely inaccurate. In fact, if measured, LDL was probably more like 140-180 mg/dl. LDL particles were also virtually guaranteed to be small, since low HDL and small LDL usually go hand-in-hand (though small LDL can still occur with a good HDL).

So Jerry's LDL is really much higher than it appears. To prove it, Jerry will require an additional test, preferably one in which LDL is measured, such as LDL particle number (NMR), apoprotein B, or "direct" LDL.

It's really quite simple. Jerry likely has a high number of LDL particles that are too small. This pattern confers a three- to six-fold increased risk for heart disease.

Treatment requires more than just reducing LDL. Small LDL--an important component of this pattern, responds, for instance, to a reduction in processed carbohydrates like wheat products (breads, breakfast cereals, pretzels, etc.), NOT to a low-fat diet. Weight loss to ideal weight, especially loss of abdominal fat, will yield huge improvements in these numbers. Niacin may be a necessary component of Jerry's treatment program, since it increases LDL size and raises HDL.

For more discussion on measures superior to LDL cholesterol, see my upcoming editorial, Let Dr. Friedewald Lie in Peace (an expansion of a previous Heart Scan Blog). It will be posted on the Cardiologist on Call column on the Track Your Plaque website within the next week.)

Oil-based vitamin D


As time passes, I gain greater and greater respect for the power of restoring vitamin D blood levels to normal, i.e. 50-70 ng/ml. Just yesterday, I saw several people with blood levels of <10 ng/ml--severe deficiency.

Vitamin D deficiency this severe poses long-term risk for osteoporosis, arthritis, colon cancer, prostate cancer, inflammatory diseases, diabetes, and heart disease. Vitamin D appears to make coronary plaque reversal--reduction of your heart scan score--easier and faster.

But it is important that you take the right kind of vitamin D. Several of the people I saw yesterday with vitamin D levels of somebody living in total darkness were taking vitamin D, but they were taking tablets. Tablets are the wrong form. Powder-based tablets, in my experience, yield little or no rise in blood levels. Some preparations generate a small rise but the dose required is huge.

If you're going to take vitamin D, take a preparation that yields genuine and substantial rises in blood levels. This requires an oil-based capsule. I commonly see blood levels of 25-OH-vitamin D3 rise from, say, 10 ng/dl to 60 ng/ml when oil-based capsules are taken.

The most common dose I prescribe to patients is 2000 units per day to females, 3000-4000 units per day to males in non-sun exposed months. Ideally, your dose is adjusted to blood levels.

The Vitamin Shoppe preparation pictured here is one I've used successfully and generates bona fide rises in blood levels. And it costs around $5. Just be sure the preparation you buy is oil-based.

For rapid success, try the "fast" track

Have you tried fasting?

Before your eyes glaze over, let me tell you what I mean. I don't mean a water-only fast for two weeks while you drool over all the temptations around you and you feel sorry for yourself.

I also don't mean the juice fasts that some people use that turn into fruit juice fasts of pure sugar.

Here's another way to do it. Usually, 48 hours of doing this will yield several benefits:

--Weight loss of 1 lb. You will likely experience an even greater weight loss of 2-4 lbs, but much of this will be water loss.

--If you're like me and share a heightened sensitivity to sugars and carbohydrates (like wheat), you may find out just how awful you feel when you eat certain foods. Many people tell me they feel absolutely wonderful when they fast--clearer thinking, increased energy, improved mood. Not the constant gnawing urge to eat they expected.

--After your fast is over, you look back and realize just what large portions of food you were eating. You'll be content with smaller quantities--and enjoy it more.


The "fast" I've used successfully includes two foods:

1) Vegetable juices--that you either juice yourself or purchase. V8 or its equivalent works pretty well. Though purchased V8 is not the best, it's better than nothing and does work reasonably well. If you juice your own vegetable juices, watch out for the diarrhea if you're unaccustomed to vegetable juices. Four 8 oz glasses per day works well.

2) Soy milk--for a source of protein and modest quantity of sugar and fat. I like the Light Silk Soymilk (Vanilla) which contains 80 calories, 2 g fat (0.5 g monounsaturated), 7 g sugar, 6 g protein per 8 oz glass. Four 8 oz glasses of soymilk also work well. In my neighborhood, 8th Continent is another good choice.


Sip both of these throughout the day. Of course, drink water in unrestricted amounts.

What can you expect in your coronary plaque control/heart scan score reversal program? When the fast is over, a rise in HDL, reduction in small LDL, reduction in triglycerides, reduction in blood sugar and insulin, and a smaller tummy. This strategy can be useful to kick-start weight loss efforts or as a periodic way to maintain control over weight and lipid/lipoprotein patterns.


Nutritional Composition Silk Soymilk--Vanilla

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 cup (240mL)
Servings per container 8 H/G OR 4 QT

Amount per Serving

Calories 70
Calories from Fat 20

% Daily Value
Total Fat 2g 3%
Saturated Fat 0g 0%
Trans Fat 0g
Polyunsaturated Fat 1g
Monounsaturated Fat 0.5g

Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 120mg 5%
Potassium 300mg 8%
Total Carbohydrates 8g 3%
Dietary Fiber 1g 4%
Sugars 6g
Protein 6g
Vitamin A 10%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 30%
Iron 6%
Vitamin D 30%
Riboflavin 30%
Folate 6%
Vitamin B12 50%
Magnesium 10%
Zinc 4%
Selenium 8%
Procedures 'R Us

Procedures 'R Us

Kay came to the office for an opinion.

Over the past 8 months, she'd received a stent to the left anterior descending coronary artery and, during a separate procedure, a stent to the left subclavian artery.

"My cardiologist was very capable doing procedures. But when I asked, 'What do I do now?' he barely said a word and handed me a presciption for Crestor."

This kind of incredible neglect is the norm: Write a prescription for statin drug, delegate dietary advice to the hospital dietitian who advocates a heart disease-causing low-fat diet, followed by hospital discharge. You are expected to report any recurrent symptoms (which are inevitable), at which point you might "qualify" for another procedure.

It would be malpractice if it were not the prevailing standard in the community. Yes, the prevailing standard is neglect--neglect to identify, quantify, and correct all the identifiable causes of heart disease; neglect to discuss the nutritional methods that actually correct the abnormal patterns that cause heart disease; neglect to discuss nutritional supplements or medications beyond statins that further reduce heart disease risk and "need" for more procedures. In other words, the prevailing community standard is to stent, bypass, prescribe statin. It is not to understand why the disease occurred in the first place, correct the causes and minimize or eliminate any future danger or need for procedures.

I see consultation after consultation involving stories just like Kay's. People are frightened and they sense intuitively that nobody raised the question of why they have a potentially fatal disease.

Don't allow yourself to fall victim to this incredibly neglectful mode of practice, the one that has enriched hospitals, the drug industry, many cardiologists, but does little to address the actual disease.

Comments (20) -

  • larry

    9/22/2009 11:15:10 PM |

    A similar experience happened to me. In my case I had a stroke, a triple bypass on my left coronary artery, a stent the size of Rhode Island on my right coronary artery, all preceded by v-tach.

    It was a near death experience and surprizingly enough, I never had a heart attack. I am in my mid-50's and very fit when this happened and it wasn't until my final meeting with my Heart Surgeon where he asked, "how did this happen?"

    Not one Doctor previous to that asked me why I had heart disease. I had an answer yet nobody bothered to ask.

    I refuse to take a statin. When medicine has an answer for LpA I will be all over it!

  • epistemocrat

    9/23/2009 1:22:54 AM |

    Awesome essay, Dr. Davis.

    Question: How could this be improved upon via Medical Education? It appears to be a deeply-seated cultural problem, aside from the prevailing financial reasons for why we treat instead of prevent:

    "In other words, the prevailing community standard is to stent, bypass, prescribe statin. It is not to understand why the disease occurred in the first place, correct the causes and minimize or eliminate any future danger or need for procedures."

    In other words, is there a cultural / professional development approach to (partially) attacking this problem; or, is our maligned financial landscape the sole culprit that must be changed?

    Thanks,

    Brent

  • Mark K. Sprengel

    9/23/2009 1:28:38 AM |

    My fiance's dad is being treated in a similar matter. Unfortunately, he won't listen to her or info that I've found and modify his diet much. He also seems highly sensitive to Niacin so won't take it all anymore. Fish oil and Vit. D3 are no starters as well. It really saddens me how people could make simple inexpensive changes and improve their health and yet they don't due to lack of information or unwillingness to believe or make change.

  • JohnP

    9/23/2009 3:50:44 AM |

    This is exactly my story. I'm 49, heart attack and stent in rca in May, script for 80mg lipitor and plavix. Heart Association diet, etc. and see me again in 6 months. When I googled lipitor, I ended up here eventually. Thank God. A goldmine of information and advice and pointers to many other resources. Thanks Dr.Davis for providing this service to the public. It should be required reading for anyone in cadiology, and all their patients as well. One day when time permits I'll post my entire experience, maybe it will help someone else. Thanks again.

  • denparser

    9/23/2009 9:06:58 AM |

    OMG! that's not good. why most people heart disease is the problem? I think this kind of disease will happen to those people who are working in offices and no limit in oily foods.

  • Stan (Heretic)

    9/23/2009 11:40:53 AM |

    Absolutely!   There is a very simple and effective defense against this kind of new medieval "culture" you have described - science and reason.

    I am surprised how little of that is being used or taught.

    Stan (Heretic)

  • Pete

    9/23/2009 3:14:57 PM |

    This totally rings true with many and/or most of my personal experiences with the medical profession. Many doctors seem to be only interested in treating the symptoms, not getting at the underlying root causes.  When I've pressed them on the issue of cause, I've gotten vague answers along the lines of "sometimes these things just happen, and you have to learn to live with it" (direct quote from an ophthalmologist recently).  It's hard to determine whether they don't care, or don't know, and won't admit it.  
    I wish there were more sources available online such as Ratemds.com where you could get info on a doctor before you see them - it seems I can be better informed about the company coming to clean my carpets, than the doctor who may hold my life in their hands.

  • Dr. William Davis

    9/23/2009 10:25:03 PM |

    Hi, Brent--

    I think that change needs to come from several directions, including changes in education and attitude.

    However, I believe that the quickest way to change the system is for patients themselves to agitate with their doctors and express their dissatisfaction with their care. The system still supports 2nd and 3rd opinions and free-market access to doctors who try to do better.

  • Anne

    9/24/2009 1:33:51 AM |

    I was on that merry-go-round. Age 54 and had my 1st stent. My cardiologist came into my room and told my husband "I fixed her." Funny, he did not say that when he did #2, #3 and #4 stent. He did once mention that my heart reblockage was probably due to inflammation, but no one was looking for the source. Not surprising I went on to have bypass.

    I have noticed that doctors seem to be focused on diagnosis. They want to give a name to the disease and then there are evidenced based treatments to do and prescribe. What is missed is looking for underlying causes. CAD may be a diagnosis, but it does not reveal anything about what might have caused it. When my doctors looked at my heart, they saw a plumbing problem. When I started looking at my heart, I found low vitamin D, low B12, low folate, low B6, hypothyroidism, hypertension, insulin resistance, gluten sensitivity, belief that trans fats were safe, low fat/high carb AHA diet and probably low EFA's. Slowly I am figuring out how to truly improve my health.

    Physician are rewarded for procedures. There is little money in counseling a patient about diet and lifestyle. Nutrient levels are rarely tested. Patients too often want the quick fix and are unwilling to make lifestyle changes.

  • Anonymous

    9/24/2009 4:43:36 AM |

    Forgive me for this--but what is heartbreaking are the infants and children I transcribe consultation letters for.  And this is for a large Eastern children's hospital, pediatric cardiology department.  The doctors are true believers, are genuinely interested in helping their young patients, and deal with heart disease and anatomical problems, but still the families are referred to the dieticians and the low-fat diet.  Some conditions are prescribed Gatorade and salty snacks like pretzels...carbs, but perhaps some electrolytes in fluid and/or fluids and just plain salt might help (I am only a transcriptionist, obviously not a doctor) but I transcribe consultation after consultation where I wonder what lies ahead for these youngsters when the heart disease you address here piles onto their congenital problems because of the dieticians and cardiologists' take on how to treat.  They have saved many an infant or young child though but that is not the whole picture.

  • Anonymous

    9/24/2009 4:51:34 AM |

    A friend who was moving Labor Day weekend in 2004 developed chest pain and tachycardia and so presented to the emergency room and there was narrowing in two vessels (do not remember which ones), was stented (the cardiologist even went so far as to call the Italian cardiologist who had stented before in an awkward junction of vessels to get advice before he proceeded).  So my friend ended up with two stents and lost the house she was moving into, so I offered to have her stay with me.  She then suffered a heart attack---right at the stent where the "awkward junction" was.  So what caused this heart attack?  In my lay opinion, the cardiologist's approach to treatment is partially to blame here, but legally his treatment was up to the community standard of care.  My friend and I parted when I moved to another state but as much as i talk to her about sugar--she is addicted to cake and sweets, takes more drugs then I know anyone takes, has ignored the Vitamin D Cure I sent her, the Carlson's fish oil I sent, and the Carlson's Vitamin D3 I sent.  She is on statins/2, pain killers galore (I wonder why she hurts), antihypertensives/2, but she is on Armour thyroid.  Still thinks that cardiologist knows what he is talking about.  I have tried.

  • Alan S David

    9/24/2009 12:58:21 PM |

    I went for a cardiology workup as I have some blockage in one artery. I was prescribed Crestor, and told to eat some tuna once in awhile.  Not even close to what I know to do already, thanks to the Track Your Plaque web site information.

  • Tara

    9/24/2009 3:33:25 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    PLEASE stop stereotyping dietitians as if we were all Stepford bots programmed to relay the same canned information.  Would you not take offense to me categorizing you as a typical doctor who knows nothing about preventative care, prescribes medications only offered to him by pharm reps, and adheres to everything the AMA decrees?

    Perhaps instead of blasting us, you could encourage dietitians to build on their knowledge and training base by providing some resources?  Maybe offer seminars?  Research?  

    Also, how do you expect us lowly dietitians to make radical changes when the cardiologists and other docs we work for have limited knowledge and certainly no support for dietary intervention and non-pharm therapy?

  • Dr. William Davis

    9/24/2009 5:16:13 PM |

    Hi, Tara-

    You are absolutely correct.

    A good friend of mine is a dietitian. She eats no wheat, cornstarch, or dairy. She's slender and has corrected a complex lipid abnormality with her diet.

    So there are good dietitians and there are plenty of "Stepford bots." Sadly, most are the latter.

    I absolutely agree that my colleagues are failing miserably in delivering intelligent preventive nutritional care. So don't yell at me; yell at my colleagues and your colleagues.

  • Carl

    9/25/2009 10:08:49 PM |

    Hospitals employ dietitians. How many dietitians are willing to go out on a limb to buck current,dated, nutritional recommendations?
    Wheat? C'Mon! They must go with the flow.

  • Bill

    9/27/2009 4:15:59 PM |

    There is a similar "neglect" following treatment that may be quite widespread.  I was treated for depression and after the prescription medications were over, I was 25 lbs heavier.

    I asked the prescribing psychiatrist what to do to get the weight off, and he said, "Go on some kind of diet, I suppose".

    I then and now consider this response inappropriate and inadequate and unprofessional.

  • Paddler Peril

    10/31/2009 12:43:29 PM |

    Same here in Sydney. MI in June, five stents then discharged with paltry dietary advice and the usual list of poisons. Only by searching the web was I able to find sites like this and advice that made sense. Needless to say its over the counter treatment all the way for me now.

    Still unsettling having to steer a course on my own. None of the medicos I've spoken to have been willing to consider a programme for being healthy, they just want to treat me

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