How important is high blood pressure?


Control of blood pressure is crucial for coronary plaque control and stopping your heart scan score from increasing.

Dr. Mehmet Oz (of Oprah fame and a cardiac transplant surgeon at Columbia University) made graphic point of this on the ABC TV news show, 20/20, last evening on an episode called "Our Bodies: Myths, Lies, and Straight Talk". (See a summary on the ABC News 20/20 website at http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2109291&page=1)

Although I believe he somewhat overstated the case for hypertension (proclaiming "If you're going to remember one number, if you're going to focus and fixate on one number in your entire health profile, it better be your blood pressure"), he made the point that a blood pressure of 115/75 is what you should have for optimal health.

I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, the old advice that desirable blood is 140/90 or less is absolutely wrong. At this level, we see flagrant increases in heart scan scores. We also progressive enlargement of the thoracic aorta, the large vessel that leaves the heart and branches to provide the major arteries of the body. Growth of the aorta to an aneurysm is also common at these formerly acceptable blood pressure. (The diameter of your aorta in the chest is an easily obtainable measure on your CT heart scan.)

The blood pressure you need for halting and reversing plaque growth on your heart scan is indeed 115/75 or less. (Not so low, however, that you're lightheaded.) This is the blood pressure that you were meant to have evolutionarily. It's also the blood pressure that helps tremendously in keeping your aorta from enlarging.

Watch for an upcoming exhaustive report on blood pressure and its plaque-raising effects and how to reduce it using nutritional strategies on the www.cureality.com membership website.

Is your doctor in cahoots with the hospital?

I got a call from a doctor about a patient we've seen in past.

"I've got Tricia in the office. She's been having some kind of chest and abdominal pain. I think it's esophageal reflux, but just to be safe I'm sending her to the hospital."

I advised this physician that, given Tricia's low heart scan score, she was unlikely to be having a coronary "event" like heart attack or unstable symptoms. It wasn't impossible, but just highly unlikely.

As the patient was without symptoms at the moment and had driven herself to his office, I offered to perform a stress test immediately. (Though stress tests are of limited usefulness in people without symptoms, they can be useful provocative maneuvers in people with symptoms of uncertain significance.)

The doctor declined. Tricia was, after all, in his office and he was responsible for any decisions despite any objections I voiced. Well, Tricia was directed by her doctor to go to a local hospital, though one with an especially notorious reputation for putting virtually anyone they can get their hands on through as many procedures as possible.

As you might guess, this doctor was closely associated with this hospital. He and his colleagues obtain incentives (or are penalized) if they do not generate revenue-producing procedures for the hospital.

So, guess what? Tricia ended up with several procedures, all of which yielded nothing--except $30,000 in revenues from Tricia's insurance company.

I harp on this deplorable state of affairs because it is utterly, painfully, and shamefully TRUE. Just look at the hospital and you'd better brace yourself for a series of tests that could cost you the equivalent of a nice 3 bedroom home. If they were truly necessary after the failure of preventive and other simple efforts, fine. But, all too often, they are driven by profit motives.

Could I have stopped this somehow from occurring? After all, Tricia was reasonably aware of the way we do things around here. I fear that even this failed to serve Tricia well. But I remain hopeful that, as we build broader awareness of these issues, that more and more people and physicians will stand up and refuse to tolerate the status quo.

Where is the Track Your Plaque program going?

I spend a lot of time worrying about how people can be helped to navigate through this program.

Take, for instance, the man in rural Texas who, while traveling in Dallas, got a heart scan on a whim. His score was 990. When he took the report back to his doctor, he got a smirk--and that's all. When he came to the Track Your Plaque program, he lacked a physician advocate to help him.

Or the woman from Florida who sought opinions from two reputable cardiologists for her heart scan score of 377. Both advised her that she needed a heart catheterization--despite her lack of symptoms, her 5-day-a-week exercise program, and normal stress test. She also lacks a physician advocate who acts on her behalf, helping her achieve success, rather than just churning her for money from hospital procedures.

For people like this and for others, I see the Track Your Plaque program evolving in several directions:

1) An online clinic--You enter and we take your "hand" and lead you step by step through the process, not only at the beginning, but over the months and years. This would help clear up some of the confusion and zigzags that some people experience trying to navigate through the program.

2) Develop physician and non-physician partners--The woman in Florida, for instance, could be referred to a doctor nearby who understands the program and is able to assist her. At present, this is virtually impossible because of the bias towards heart procedures, drugs as the sole treatment for heart disease risk, and the superficial physician-patient relationship. The majority of practicing physicians just don't understand the program despite the fact that it is based on sound clinical and experimental data. But it will in time.

Looking back, we've come a long way. I remember first having patients undergo heart scans 10 years ago. My colleagues laughed or called it "silly". The general public didn't know what they meant.

Now we're talking about how to broadcast the most powerful heart disease prevention program available in the world to a larger audience, but making it easier and more accessible. Mass media like Oprah's two hour-long spots helped, but we need to make the next leap. Not just identifying hidden heart disease to feed the hungry cardiovascular hospital procedure monster, but to educate/inform/empower the public on what to do with the scan once they've had it.

Who cares about triglycerides?

Walter's triglycerides were 231 mg. His LDL cholesterol was "favorable" at 111 mg, HDL likewise at 49 mg.

"Everything looks good," his doctor declared.

"Do you think the triglycerides are okay, too?" Walter asked.

"Well, the guidelines do say that triglycerides should be less than 150, but I believe you're close enough. Anyway, triglycerides don't really cause heart disease."


When I met Walter, I made several comments. First of all, in light of his heart scan score of 713, none of his numbers--HDL, LDL, or triglycerides-- were acceptable. But the triglycerides were glaringly and terribly too high.

Why? What exactly are triglycerides?

Triglycerides are a basic fat particle that, though they do not cause heart disease directly, trigger the formation of an array of abnormal lipoprotein particles in the blood that are among the most potent causes of heart disease known.

These abnormal lipoprotein particles include small LDL, VLDL, and IDL (intermediate-density lipoprotein--a really bad pattern). Excess triglycerides also cause HDL to drop. They also cause a distortion of HDL structure, causing the particles to become abnormally small. Small HDL is also useless HDL, unable to provide the protection that HDL is designed to do.

So Walter's elevated triglycerides are, in reality, a substantial red flag for an entire panel of abnormal particles that contribute to the growth of his coronary plaque.

So, if you get this kind of commentary on your triglycerides, ask for another opinion. (Track Your Plaque Members: Also see Triglycerides: Mother of meddlesome particles at http://www.cureality.com/library/fl_dp002triglycerides.asp.)

Total cholesterol and heart scans

Andy was fearful of heart disease in his life. At age 52, he'd already had four CT heart scans--one each year on or near his birthday.

Yet, when I looked at Andy's scans, his scores had been increasing 20-24% per year. Each and every score was greater by 20% or more over the previous.

So I asked Andy what steps he had taken to stop this relentless progression. "Well, I've always been real health conscious. But ever since my first scan, I really started sticking to a healthy diet, exercising nearly every day, and I take a bunch of supplements."

"What did your doctor advise?" I asked.

"Well, Dr. ---- said that nothing needed to be done, since my total cholesterol was always below 200."



Men's Health magazine's fabulous story about the folly of using total cholesterol to gauge heart disease risk.




Aaaauuuggghhh!! Wrong!

This man was, in fact, at rapidly escalating risk for heart attack. This rate of growth simply can't continue forever without igniting this bomb.

A total cholesterol below 200 is meaningless, as Andy's increasing coronary plaque proved. For instance, you can have a total cholesterol of 165 mg but with an HDL cholesterol of 27 mg. This would constitute very high risk for heart disease despite the low total cholesterol. The low HDL pattern is among the most common reasons for a misleading total cholesterol. Small LDL, high triglycerides, and lipoprotein (a) are other frequent reasons.

Andy, run the other way! Do not heed this doctor's advice! You need a solid answer to the question: Why exactly do I have coronary plaque in the first place?

Then, agree on a treatment program that corrects your specific causes.

Cardiologists out of touch

This weekend, I'm fulfilling some responsiblities I have every so often to some of the local hospitals. It gives me a chance to interact with many of my colleagues who are likewise "on call" for the weekend.

I tried to strike up several conversations with colleagues about how they were managing heart disease prevention. I received blank stares, puzzled looks, indifference. One colleague declared that 80 mg of Lipitor is all you need to know.

These same colleagues are the ones scrambling for the heart attack patients in the emergency room, climbing over one another for consultation in the hospital for patients with chest pain and heart failure. They're consumed with expanding the range of procedures they can perform.

Carotid stenting is hot. So is stenting of the leg arteries. Defibrillators have been a financial bonanza. Opportunities abound on how to add these procedures to a cardiologist's abilities.

But heart disease prevention? How about heart disease reversal?

Frankly, I'm embarassed by my colleagues' lack of interest. Imagine we had a cure for breast cancer--not a palliative therapy that just slows the disease down or prolongs life, but actually cures it once and for all. I would hope that all physicians and oncologists would learn how to accomplish this. What if instead they focused on learning new ways to remove breasts, administer new toxic chemotherapies, etc. but ignored the whole idea of cure?

This is what is happening with coronary plaque reversal. The answer is right in front of them, but the vast majority (99%) of cardiologists choose to ignore it. After all, prevention and reversal simply don't pay the bills.

That means that, in 2006, you simply cannot rely on your cardiologist to counsel you on how to achieve regression or reversal of coronary plaque. How about your internist, family physician, or primary care doctor? Well, they're busy doing pneumovax injections, Pap smears, managing knee and hip arthritis, low back pain, diarrhea, headaches, sinus infections and . . yes, dabbling in heart disease prevention.

And, for the most part, doing a miserable job of it. What you generally get echoes the drug manufacturers pitch: Take a statin drug, cut the fat in your diet.

Until the majority of doctors catch on, you're going to have to rely on sources like the Track Your Plaque program for better information.

What if your lipoproteins are perfect?



Sandy is a 56-year old woman--fit, slender, physically active, with no bad habits. A retired teacher, she has time to devote to her health. She bikes several days per week, mountain bikes, walks, and takes fitness classes. In short, she's the picture of perfect health.

Her heart scan score was not terribly impressive: 41. However, at her age, this modest score placed her in the 77th percentile. This suggested a heart attack risk of around 2-3% per year.

So we measured Sandy's lipoproteins. They were shockingly normal. In fact, Sandy is among the very rare person with absolutely no small LDL particles. All other patterns were just as favorable, including an HDL in the 80s.

This may seem like good news, but I find it disturbing. People are often initially upset by seeing multiple abnormal lipoprotein patterns. But lipoprotein abnormalities are the tools that we use to gain control over coronary plaque.

So what do we do when there are no abnormalities?

There are several issues to consider:

1) Your heart scan score reflects the sum total of your life up until that point. What if you were 20 lbs heavier 10 years earlier and your lipoproteins were abnormal during that period? Or you smoked until age 45 and quit? As helpful as they are, lipoproteins and related patterns are only a snapshot in time, unlike the heart scan score.

2) You have a vitamin D deficiency. This is unusual as a sole cause of coronary plaque. Much more commonly, it is a co-conspirator.

3) The heart scan is wrong--highly unlikely. Heart scans are actually quite easy, straightforward tests. (The only time this tends to happen is when scoring that appears in the circumflex coronary artery is actually in the nearby mitral valve. This really occurs only when there's very minimal calcium in the valve.)

4) There's a yet unidentified source of risk. Probably very rare but conceivable. For instance, there's an emerging sense that phopholipid patterns may prove to be coronary risks. One clinically available measure that we've not found very useful is phospholipase A2, known by the proprietary name "PLAC" test. (See http://www.plactest.com for more information from the manufacturer/distributor of the test.) But there's probably lots of others that may prove useful in future.

How often does it happen that someone fails to show any identifiable source for their coronary plaque? I can count the number of instances on two fingers--very unusual. (Thank goodness!)

Sandy's case is therefore quite unique. How should we approach her coronary plaque? In this unusual circumstance, lacking a cause, we tend to introduce therapies that may regress plaque independent of any measurable lipoprotein parameters. But that's a whole new conversation.

Fly to India for a bypass operation?


In the June 19, 2006 issue of People Magazine, there's an article called "The Doctor is in . . .INDIA". The report talks about how, with health care costs in the U.S. spiralling out of control, more and more Americans are leaving the country to have their procedure performed.

They tell the story of Mr. Carlo Gislimberti of New Mexico and cite these numbers:

Heart Surgery
Cost in U.S.: $200,000

Cost in India: $10,000


Mr. Gislimberti opted to have his coronary bypass operation in India for cost reasons.

But the People magazine report left out one other option: The Track Your Plaque program: $39.00

Do your part to save ballooning health care costs: Engage in a truly powerful program of heart disease prevention like the Track Your Plaque program. The cost difference is laughably huge. And you won't require a 12-inch chest incision.

Follow conventional guidelines and guess what? You're going to have a heart attack. Follow the American Heart Association diet and you'll have heart disease.

Cut to the chase. The only program that is able to detect, track, and control coronary plaque better than any other process I know of is this program.

Note: I am not proposing that a heart disease prevention program like Track Your Plaque can replace a procedure like coronary bypass when a dangerous situation has developed. The Track Your Plaque program is designed to be implemented in the years before heart surgery is required. That's when you have the greatest control over your fate.

Surprise: Heart scan score reversal

Gene is a jovial, fun-loving railroad worker who didn't take anything too seriously--including his heart scan score of 767.

This score placed Gene solidly in the 99th percentile (in the worst 1%). It came as no surprise to Gene. After all, his father died at age 36 of a heart attack and Gene's brother died at 60 of a heart attack. So Gene took life as it came and long ago decided not to fret about his fate.

But Gene's wife prodded him and prodded him to get the heart scan. That's when I met him.

Of course, Gene had been prescribed Lipitor by his doctor for a somewhat high LDL cholesterol. Our assessment uncovered several additional patterns including lipoprotein (a), small LDL, a pre-diabetic tendency, and a severe deficiency of vitamin D.

At 224 lb and 5 ft 6 inches in height, I felt that Gene was at least 40 lbs overweight.

One year later and with reasonable correction of all his patterns except weight loss and Gene's heart scan score was 590--a reduction of 23%!

Gene was thrilled, as was I. But, frankly, I was also surprised. Dramatic regression of coronary plaque tends to not occur so readily as long as pre-diabetic patterns persist and weight is not controlled.

The lesson: Often the only way to tell if you've achieved control or regression of coronary plaque is to have another heart scan. The tremendous variation in human responses never ceases to amaze me.

Call me when you're having chest pain


I met a patient, Anna, yesterday. She was quite frustrated and frightened.

At age 50, Anna suffered a heart attack and received a stent to her left anterior descending coronary artery. What she found upsetting is that, because several members of her family had suffered heart attacks in their 40s (Dad--heart attack at age 45, paternal uncle--heart attack age 40, and even another uncle with heart attack in his late 20s), she had repeatedly asked her doctor whether she was okay.

She received the usual array of false assurances: "You're feeling fine, right? Then don't worry about it." "Look. Your cholesterol is in the normal range. Even your cholesterol/HDL ratio is fine." "Women don't get heart disease until later in life."

All proved absolutely false. As we talked, Anna exclaimed, "I think what I've been told all along is that we'll take you seriously when you finally have a heart attack!"

She's exactly right. The vast majority of times, heart disease is discovered by accident, usually because of an "event" like heart attack. This is like changing the oil in your car when it finally breaks down--it's too late.

CT heart scan, followed by lipoprotein testing and associated values, then correction of your specific causes. It's that simple.
Vitamin D toxicity

Vitamin D toxicity

It is the craziest thing.

The notion of vitamin D being easily and readily toxic has grabbed hold of many people, including my colleagues who were taught that vitamin D was toxic in medical school based on the skimpiest (and often misinterpreted) observations in a handful of unusual cases.

In my practice and in the Track Your Plaque program, we routinely use doses of 2000-10,000 units per day, occasionally more. We are guided by blood levels of 25(OH) vitamin D3. I have personally never witnessed vitamin D toxicity.

Here's an interesting graph from Dr. Reinhold Vieth. Those of you familiar with the vitamin D argument know that Dr. Vieth is among the few genuine gurus in the vitamin D world.



















From Vieth R. Vitamin D supplementation, 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentrations, and safety. Am J Clin Nutr 1999;69:842-856. (Full text is available without charge.)

In the graph, the X's represent toxicity; circles fall within the non-toxic range. (Toxicity is generally defined as a level sufficient to raise blood calcium levels, "hypercalcemia.") Note that the 25(OH) vitamin D3 levels are given in nmol/L; to convert to ng/ml units that are customary in the U.S., divide the nmol/L value by a factor of 2.5.

You will notice that toxicity is virtually unheard of until the dose exceeds 10,000 units per day. Beyond 10,000 units per day, the curve heads upward sharply and toxicity does become a possibility, though not an absolute (since there are circles above 10,000 units).

You may also notice that the curve is relatively flat from vitamin D doses between 200 units and 10,000 units (log scale on x axis; arithmetic scale on y), the range of most common doses for vitamin D supplementation.

Another perspective on vitamin D blood levels is to examine the blood levels of people who are young and obtain plentiful sun exposure. Lifeguards, for instance, have blood levels of 84 ng/ml (210 nmol/L) without ill-effect. (Sun exposure cannot generate vitamin D toxicity, because of a feedback safety mechanism in skin.) While this may not represent an ideal level since they represent an extreme, it does provide reassurance that such levels are non-toxic. I also point out these levels occur in the youthful since most people lose 75% or more of vitamin D activating capacity in the skin by their 70s. Most of us over 40 are kidding ourselves if we think that a suntan provides sufficient vitamin D.

Keep in mind that it is not necessarily the dose of vitamin D that is toxic, but the blood level it generates. I take 10,000 units of vitamin D as a gelcap per day to maintain my blood level between 50-60 ng/ml (125-150 nmol/L). This strategy helps me keep my HDL in the 70-80 mg/dl range, my blood sugar around 90 mg/dl, my blood pressure <120/80, and I no longer experience colds nor winter "blues."


Copyright 2008 William Davis, MD

Comments (26) -

  • mike V

    2/6/2008 5:19:00 PM |

    Dr D:
    I take up to 4000 IU per day depending on season and have recently had a zero CTA scan, so I personally have high confidence in vitamin D3.
    From time to time I see references to the possibility that excessive D can produce soft tissue/arterial calcification in some people. I understand of course that Vitamin K2 menaquinone is an essential partner in proper calcium homeostasis.
    Are you completely without concern at the blood levels discussed?, or should people with marginal kidney performance or other moderate metabolic conditions be cautious?
    Would appreciate your thoughts.
    MikeV

  • mtflight

    2/6/2008 5:31:00 PM |

    Where does one get 10,000 IU caps?

    I take 4000 IU capsules from Carlson Labs (called "Solar Gems")--the oil in the caps is fish oil, so that's a plus, and my multivitamin has 1,000 IUs.


    P.S. Thanks for the blog, I'm a big fan!

  • Dr. Davis

    2/6/2008 9:33:00 PM |

    There are clearly groups of people who should work with their doctor when it comes to vitamin D, particularly people with kidney disease or dysfunction; history of kidney stones; glandular diseases like hyperparathyroidism; a history of high calcium.

  • MrSardonicus

    2/6/2008 9:58:00 PM |

    If taking 4,000 IU of Vitamin D a day increases one's HDL by a relatively small number -- say, 10 -- but it's still low, what do you think is the likelihood hiking the amount will further increase HDL?

    Also, do you take calcium with your Vitamin D?

  • Dr. Davis

    2/6/2008 10:01:00 PM |

    I have never seen 10,000 capsules. I'm hoping somebody comes out with such a preparation. I wasn't aware of the 4000 unit capsules. Thanks for the tip!

  • Dr. Davis

    2/6/2008 10:04:00 PM |

    I would not advise taking more vit D just to raise HDL.

    Blood level of vit D is the parameter to assess vit D adequacy. I would regard a rise in HDL as a fortuitous side phenomenon.

  • Brandon

    2/6/2008 11:00:00 PM |

    “…and I no longer experience colds nor winter "blues."

    Careful, this sort of personal testimonial lends to sounding more like a “nutritional guru” instead of medical professional examining scientific evidence.

    I’m not saying you’re incorrect, it may be your experience and it may be absolutely true, but a stick to the clinical facts. You’re talents are better suited to being a “medical watchdog” than a “dietary duck.”

  • Anonymous

    2/7/2008 12:19:00 AM |

    Dear Dr. Davis,
    I would love your opinion of my doctor's protocol regarding my recent diagnosis of osteopenia in my hips (t-scores -1.1 and -1.2 femoral neck, my spine was normal, -0.2).  I'm a 56 year old woman, 115 pounds, just went through menopause, taking Zocor and Lotrel (high cholesterol and hypertension both run in my family), I exercise regularly.  My doctor said he wanted to see how well I absorb Vit D, so he ordered a blood test, however, he ordered the D1,25 test (results 35 pg/mL), NOT D25 which I understand is a truer biomarker.  He prescribed Vitamin D, Calcitriol, one 0.025 capsule per day for one month, with no restrictions on my Calcium/Vit D intake through supplements, after which he said to return for another Vitamind D blood test (another D1,25).  I've read that Calcitriol can cause hypercalcemia.  I've also read that D1,25 will not tell you how well you're absorbing Vitamin D.  Based on that, I felt I was wasting my time and risking hypercalcemia, so I stopped taking the Calcitriol.  Should I tell my doctor that he ordered the wrong blood test?  Also, which prescription Vit D should I be taking? I have no other health issues.  Thank you, Dr. Davis.
    Ruthie

  • Dr. Davis

    2/7/2008 12:58:00 AM |

    Thank you, but I disagree.

    I add my experiences to that of probably over 1000 patients in the last two years who have shared similar effects.

  • Dr. Davis

    2/7/2008 1:00:00 AM |

    Hi, Ruthie-

    Lots of issues. However, it sounds like your doctor is simply toeing the conventional line of prescription drugs. It may be time to either prod your doctor to get up to date on vitamin D, or to find a doctor willing to engage in the discussion.

  • Anonymous

    2/7/2008 1:27:00 AM |

    Do you know if any one is making or developing an at home vitamin D3 testing product?

  • Dr. Davis

    2/7/2008 2:55:00 AM |

    Wouldn't that be wonderful?!

    Unfortunately, I do not know of any such commercially available product. However, it would be a tremendous boon to this movement of self-empowerment in health care that I see coming for the future.

  • Anonymous

    2/7/2008 5:36:00 AM |

    I am taking vitamin D3 two softgels of 2000 IU each daily, one in the morning and one in the evening. I want to know if I get the same effect if I take two softgels together instead of taking one twice a day. Thanks.

  • Anne

    2/7/2008 9:12:00 AM |

    Hi Ruthie,

    I'm 54 and diagnosed with osteoporosis (T scores -3.7 in hips and -3.1 lumbar spine). I've been prescribed calcium supplements (as well as Strontium Ranelate) but I've found that I'm very intolerant to the calcium, no matter whether I try calcium citrate, calcium carbonate or calcium amino acid chelate, so since Christmas I've stopped all calcium supplements and upped my vitamin D3 intake to 4000iu per day (not prescription, I wish it was then it wouldn't be so expensive...vitamin D costs a lot in the UK, much more than the US) so that I absorb my dietary calcium as well as possible. I feel very confident that this will work, especially in view of a previous blog from Dr Davis about calcium:http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/calcium-chaos_22.html

    Plus logic tells me that it is not lack of calcium that causes osteoporosis but other factors. People in third world countries such as Africa on suboptimal diets have very low levels of dietary calcium but they don't usually get osteoporosis...they get more sunshine (vitamin D) and do much more physical work. I'm doing plenty of weight resistance exercise now !

    bw's
    Anne

  • Dr. Davis

    2/7/2008 1:03:00 PM |

    Yes, no difference.

  • moblogs

    2/7/2008 2:25:00 PM |

    bio-tech-pharm.com supply D3 in 1k, 5k and 50k capsules, and with delivery rates that are reasonable for those out of the US.
    I've been taking 5k for the past 2 weeks and don't feel bad on it, but will be getting blood levels checked within a season to see if I'm personally responding correctly.
    The 400IU average was just based on preventing rickets.

  • hoosierville

    2/7/2008 7:03:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis,
    I've had great results from increasing my vitamin D intake with regards to my lung capacity. I'm a recovering smoker with moderate copd and, after being hospitalized for pneumonia, am finally recovering to a point where I can almost run up and down steps. I attribute this to my "D" supplements which I began taking about a month ago. I can take deep breaths for the first time in years.

    My question is about the supplements themselves. I see very expensive D3 tablets and then I see the regular vitamin D. Is one better than the other? Is there a great deal of difference? Thanks.

  • jabs28

    2/8/2008 6:05:00 PM |

    I am surprised to see how many people are gettingtheir their Vitamin D requirements with supplements.  Go out into the sun WITHOUT sunscreen for 10-15 minutes a day and then supplement the rest.  Remember it also takes about 40 glasses of milk to equal 4000 iu's of Vitamin D.  You can get that from about 15 minutes of sun exposure depending on your age and ethnicity.  The more melanin in your skin, the longer you need to expose it.

  • Anonymous

    2/8/2008 6:10:00 PM |

    The capsules I take (the Solar Gems) are 6 cents a 4000 IU softgel:

    http://www.vitacost.com/Carlson-Solar-D-Gems-Vitamin-D

  • hoosierville

    2/9/2008 2:25:00 PM |

    Jabs,
    I live in Indiana. It's going to be 6 degrees out in just a few minutes. We haven't seen the sun in weeks. What do you suggest, tanning beds? I'll do it but not until I hear that they're safe. Be reasonable, not everyone lives where they can get natural sunlight. I think that's part of the Vitamin D deficiency problem.

  • TedHutchinson

    2/10/2008 9:08:00 PM |

    I have been taking the same 5000iu Biotech capsules Moblogs uses.
    I was 147.5nmol - 59ng when tested at the end of summer (UK latitude 53) although I did not take a D3 on days when I knew I would be able to get near full body sun exposure at midday.

    As others have reported, I also have not had a cold or flu over the winter (so far and still touching wood) others I am regularly in contact with have been unlucky.
    (I also did not need to get my SADLIGHT down from the attic this winter)

  • MattWheeler

    2/11/2008 3:26:00 AM |

    Something in the my 7 month TYP program (6000iu D3 gelcap, Slo-Niacin 1.5g, 3g+ fishoil, low wheat-suger) has really helped with joint pain I have had for 8 years.  This has allowed me to lift weights 3 times per week and thus reduced my bodyfat from 27 to 19 percent.  I look and feel much better.  I am 51, male at 215 lbs.

  • Anonymous

    2/11/2008 10:00:00 PM |

    Oh, is it because I take vitamin D3 that even with people dropping like flies around me (with colds, flu, etc) I never get sick? I have always thought it surprising that I tend not to get these things, given that I do have a number of autoimmune conditions. I have only ever used tablets (1000IU 1/day) and my vitamin D3 (250H) level is 52ng/mL.

    However, my vitamin D2 (250H) level is <4ng/mL and my vitamin D (1,25) level is only 24pg/mL (normal range 22-67). Should I (and is it possible to?) do anything to increase those levels?

  • Anonymous

    12/3/2008 2:51:00 PM |

    * * D2 v. D3 * *
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/92952.php

    * * D2 vs. lupus vulgaris * *
    ("administered in alcoholic solution is key" to success of therapy)
    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1583253&blobtype=pdf

  • George Mclaughlin

    10/9/2010 12:37:54 AM |

    Very interesting article. I find myself concerned about the side effects of vitamin D supplements, as opposed to sunlight-derived vitamin D.

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on this article, which appears to be quite well cited:

    http://www.raw-food-health.net/Vitamin-D-Toxicity.html

  • buy jeans

    11/2/2010 8:39:57 PM |

    In my practice and in the Track Your Plaque program, we routinely use doses of 2000-10,000 units per day, occasionally more. We are guided by blood levels of 25(OH) vitamin D3. I have personally never witnessed vitamin D toxicity.

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