Report from Washington II

Today's discussions at the Society for Cardiovascular Computed Tomography (SCCT) focused on atherosclerotic "plaque characterization".

As CT scanners get better and better at imaging the various components of plaque, some fascinating issues emerge:

--CT heart scans provide insights into what exactly is contained in an individual's atherosclerotic plaque that are not often provided even during heart catheterization. In other words, CT heart scanning is, in many instances, superior to heart catheterization, since it provides images of the artery wall, not just the internal contents.

--Progression (i.e., increase) in heart scan score is a powerful predicter of heart attack risk. Dr. Matthew Budoff of UCLA argued persuasively that the annual rate of increase in score is probably the most accurate measure of risk available, superior to cholesterol and calculated measures like the Framingham risk score.

--Coronary calcium scoring remains the best method to gauge total plaque throughout the entire coronary tree. In a person free of symptoms, the risk of a cardiac "event" (heart attack, death, procedures) is low and additional imaging (like CT angiography) is generally unnecessary.


Dr. Budoff, among the true thought leaders in CT heart scanning, also recounted his perspective on the history of heart scans. He noted that the questions asked through the years have evolved:




1995-2000 Should we do coronary calcium scans?

2000-2002 Do high or low risk patients benefit from coronary calcium scoring?

2003-2004 What is the better scanner, EBT or MDCT?

2006 How often should we perform coronary calcium imaging?


I believe that Dr. Budoff summarizes wonderfully where the Track Your Plaque programs fits into the overall scheme of things: Serial (repeated)CT heart scans to gauge progression or reversal is the wave of the future. We shouldn't just be interested in identifying persons at risk for heart attack. We should also be interested in showing the person at risk exactly how to reduce or eliminate that risk.

Report from Washington





I'm presently attending the Society for Cardiovascular Computed Tomography meetings in Washington, DC, along with 500 of my colleagues. It's exciting to see how interest in CT scanning for heart disease has balloonned in the past couple of years.

Several trends are noticeable today, based on the content and tone of the discussions:

--CT scanning of the heart, and imaging in general, is just getting started. In other words, the capabilities for CT scanners and other devices to detect heart disease (coronary and otherwise) are where the gasoline engine was in the 19th century. Scanning is getting faster, easier, safer, and more precise. Just as few people in 1905 could have predicted that automobiles would be computer-enhanced, high-speed, ubiquitous devices with several per household, the potential for CT imaging for heart disease is truly in its infancy.

--CT coronary angiography (so-called "64-slice CT scans") are not screening tests for hidden coronary disease in people without symptoms. I was grateful that this point has been made and reiterated by several speakers, as this is consistent with our views. Simple CT heart scans for coronary calcium scoring, in contrast, are screening tests. When the radiation exposure of CT angiograms are reduced to tolerable levels, then they may be used as screening tests. We are probably 3-4 years away from this point.

--Both stress testing and heart catheterizations will be partially replaced by CT scanning. In particular, over the next decade, you will see a dramatic drop in unnecessary catheterizations, i.e,, far less people saying "I had a heart cath but they told me that it was normal."


There has been heavy focus on applications of CT scanning for acute settings, particularly the emergency room and hospitals.

What has surprised me is that there is virtually no conversation whatsoever about the preventive uses of CT heart scanning. So far, only Dr. Daniel Berman of UCLA has shown that he has "seen the light": CT scans are a crucial tool for identification of early coronary plaque, and this tells us whether prevention is necessary and with what intensity.

There has been, however, no discussion at all about quantification of plaque in a program of reversal. Perhaps that should come as no surprise, given the imaging-technology focus of this convention. For most of my colleagues, prevention is also not terribly interesting. Identification and treatment of acute disease like impending heart attack is.

Of course, applying the information from your CT heart scan to empower you in a program and reversal is what the Track Your Plaque program is all about. I hope you see the light. I admit that it's not always easy to follow what we are advocating here. Perhaps not too different than telling someone in his horse-drawn buggy that one day he'll be driving a sleek car with onboard computerized mapping, air-conditioning, and micro-chips to modulate engine performance. He's probably tell us we're nuts.

I'll continue to update if any news relevant to our interests crops up in these meetings.

What about the Track Your Plaque failures?

I’d love to tell you that the Track Your Plaque program track record is of 100% success. It’s not.

It is very successful. But we’ve had some people who have failed and failed BIG. These are the people who've undergone bypass surgery, received one or more stents, or had heart attacks. Lesser failures are the people who’ve had large, undesirable increases in heart scan scores of >30% in one year. (The expected rate of increase in your heart scan score without preventive efforts is 30% per year, on average.)

What can we learn from those failures? There were several characteristics that stand out among this small group:

· Non-compliance--meaning they just didn’t stick with it. They started out right but then rapidly lost interest in maintaining all the pieces of the program and neglected their fish oil, niacin, gain weight, etc. Matthew did this and ended up with three stents to his left anterior descending. His slow start was due to skepticism that the program worked and just plain forgetfulness.

· Extreme stress--One of our earliest failures was a 38-year old man whose heart scan score doubled in one year, despite doing everything right. But three family members, all close to him, died within the space of six months, including his mother and a brother. I regard this as one of those instances in which we were powerless, unfortunately, though it is a graphic example of the power of unresolved stress and grief.

· Having a “better way”--These are the couple of people who were convinced that they had a better way to control their heart scan score. David firmly believed that his two dozen supplements and exercise program would drop his score. Instead, they permitted a 42% increase. Lee relied exclusively on chelation, along with several supplements of his own design. Lee had three-vessel bypass surgery.

· Starting too late--Gerome started with a score of 1179, but also was having chest pressure with emotional stress. His stress test was abnormal, with the entire upper half of his heart not receiving blood with exercise on a stress nuclear study (“anterior ischemia”). Gerome received four bypass grafts. Unfortunately, Gerome never really had a chance to engage in the Track Your Plaque program, since his health and safety were in jeopardy as soon as he started.

Have we had any big failures of people who did everything right, were compliant, were not subject to extreme stress (more than just job stress, or financial worries), didn’t neglect the basic requirements of the Track Your Plaque program, and had sufficient time (at least 6 months to 1 year)? No, thankfully, we have not.

No one who has stuck to the program has had a big failure.

Be smarter than your cardiologist

“Do you need a stent?”

Sad to say, but that sentence condenses the wisdom of over 90% of practicing cardiologists.

Prevention of heart disease means take Lipitor or some other statin and cutting the saturated fat in your diet. That’s it. Maybe throw in exercise.

Regression of coronary plaque? That phrase has only entered the conversation since the AstraZeneca-supported trial of Crestor succeeded in achieving 8% regression of plaque (Track Your Plaque Members: See News) as demonstrated by intracoronary ultrasound.



In other words, in the minds of my colleagues, it can’t be true until a drug company tells them it’s true. It’s beyond me why this brainwashing of otherwise intelligent people has occurred, but it is blatantly evident in practice.

Fish oil is another example. The spectacular benefits of fish oil have been known for 20 years. But only recently has it become a “mainstream” practice to recommend fish oil, largely because a drug manufacturer has put a preparation through the rigors of FDA approval (Omacor) and is now marketing directly to physicians. All of a sudden, fish oil is a good thing? No, it’s just achieved legitimacy in the eyes of practitioners because it graces marketing literature.

If you’re reading this, you’re likely interested in coronary plaque regression using the only tool available for you to measure, track, and regress coronary plaque: CT heart scans. Intracoronary ultrasound will achieve the same goal, but it is an invasive procedure performed at heart catheterization, involves threading a wire and imaging probe all the way down the artery, involves real risk of tearing the inner lining of the artery, and is costly (around $14,000-$20,000 for the entire package). Do it every year? That’d be nuts.

If you’re thinking about coronary plaque regression, using fish oil, concerned about patterns like low HDL and small LDL, aware of the vitamin D deficiency issue as a coronary risk factor, etc., you are far more aware than the vast majority of practicing cardiologists. They are interested in what new brand of anti-coagulant to use during their heart catheterization (because the product representative gushes about the new agent—only $1200 a dose!). Or, they are interested in gaining the procedural skills to put in a new device like a biventricular pacemaker. Regress/reverse coronary plaque? What for?

You already know that a conversation about coronary plaque reversal will not be obtained in your cardiologist’s office. Your family practice doctor or internist? Fat chance! Knee arthritis, pap smears, pneumovax inoculations, sore throats, gout, back pain—they’re spread far too thin to know anything more than the most superficial amount about coronary plaque control. Most know nothing.

That’s where we come in. That’s our mission: Educate people about the extraordinary tools that you have available to you, all in the cause of control or reversal of coronary plaque.

Why am I here?

Frank came to the office for an opinion, sent by his (proactive) family physician.

"I really don't know why I'm here, to be honest."

Two years earlier, Frank had a heart attack, survived and received two stents to his circumflex coronary artery. He now took Zocor and his LDL cholesterol was a reasonably favorable 89 mg, total cholesterol 183 mg.

"I walk with my wife every other day. I've been avoiding fish fries. You'll never see me eat fast food."

Frank was correct: If we were going to engage in the conventional approach to coronary disease, Frank was on the right track. We would have postponed his next heart attack or procedure by a couple of years. Stroke, aneurysm, and other atherosclerotic manifestations would be set back, likewise, a few years.

Would Frank have profound control over his disease? Absolutely not. In fact, his disease had probably advanced a huge amount just in the two years since his stents were placed and he was on his "prevention" program. Without his current effort, his coronary plaque would be expected to grow 30% per year. On Zocor and his modest lifestyle efforts, plaque growth was probably in the 14-28% per year range.

So I explained the unique Track Your Plaque approach to Frank. First, we start with a CT heart scan to establish where he was starting. Although he had two stents in his circumflex artery, we still had two other arteries (LAD, right coronary) to score and track.

We then attempt to identify all hidden causes of his heart disease and then correct them.

Of course, Frank had multiple hidden causes:

--HDL too low at 38 mg/dl
--Small LDL-severe, in fact, with 95% of all LDL particles in the small category
--Triglycerides too high
--Excesses of several triglyceride-containing particles (VLDL, IDL)
--Pre-diabetes--Frank had both a borderline high blood sugar and a high insulin level. This is a sure-fire stimulus to coronary plaque growth.
--A severe deficiency of vitamin D (<20 ng/ml)
--An excessivelyhigh blood pressure during exercise--With a blood pressure of 190/102 on the treadmill.

There were others(!), but that was the bulk of the causes behind Frank's coronary disease.

Once Frank recognized that there was indeed a huge panel of hidden causes for heart disease, not just too much fat in his diet and LDL cholesterol, he jumped into the program head first.

The message: The conventional approach is absurdly oversimplified, a certain path to failure for the majority of people. Even if you don't have known coronary disease like Frank, but just have a heart scan score >zero, the same principles apply to you.

Catheterization to “define coronary anatomy”

Gary is an avid jogger. On an average day, he runs 5-6 miles at a good clip. On two occasions recently, however, Gary experienced an ache in his left shoulder at mile 4. It was a toothache-like feeling, but he kept on going without difficulty.

Gary also had a heart scan score of 370.

Upon hearing of Gary’s score and his shoulder sensation, the cardiologist who saw him advised a heart catheterization “to define coronary anatomy”. (This is a real incident.)


What exactly does that mean? Why would Gary’s cardiologist need to define it?

In my view, this is an absurd notion. No one needs to “define coronary anatomy”. This catch-all phrase is commonly used to justify heart procedures. I believe what the cardiologist is saying is that it’s the easiest (for the cardiologist) and perhaps most generously reimbursed method to determine whether Gary’s symptoms are warning of an impending heart attack or not.

The problem is that the question can also be answered quite well by doing a stress test. Though not perfect diagnostic tests, stress tests are useful when symptoms are present that are doubtful in nature. Gary’s left shoulder ache could have been related to his heart, but the likelihood was that it was not. A stress test would have answered the diagnostic question quite adequately.

Instead, this man was subjected to an invasive test that was likely unnecessary. This happens dozens, if not hundreds, of times per day just around here. Nationwide, it is an epidemic of malpractice.

There are, indeed, times when a person should proceed directly to a heart catheterization. This is commonly and appropriately performed when a person develops unstable heart symptoms, such as chest discomfort or breathlessness at rest while not doing anything physical, or if the frequency is increasing, or if a stress test shows an important abnormality. There is no question that heart procedures can be lifesaving at times.

The problem is that thousands of people every year are scared into these procedures inappropriately. Beware!

It doesn't matter what I eat!

"How are your food choices?" I asked.

"What does it matter, doc? I take Lipitor. Doesn't that take care of it? I eat what I want!"

So declared Matthew. What he "wanted" was pretty much the diet of a teenager: pizza, cheeseburgers, soft drinks, snacks. His "beer belly" (visceral fat) gave it away. So did his blood work that showed flagrant lipoprotein abnormalities--small LDL, an HDL of 37 mg, and a severe after-eating flood of fat represented by increased "intermediate-density lipoprotein" (IDL).

Like many people, Matthew had been persuaded (or chose to believe) that LDL cholesterol was the sole cause for heart disease. Lipitor was therefore was all he needed. It must be great--how else could they afford all those slick TV commercials?

Well, it is definitely not true. In fact, with the persistence of Matthew's abnormal lipoprotein patterns, we should expect his heart scan score to continue to grow by 30%--the very same rate of increase as if he were taking nothing.

Specifically, Lipitor and drugs like it do not:

--Raise HDL.

--Correct or reduce the proportion of small LDL.

--Block after-eating flood of fat, nor do they accelerate clearance of unhealthy fats persisting in the bloodstream after eating.


Yes, what you eat does have real consequences, even if you take a statin drugs. In fact, the foods you ingest have a remarkably rapid and dramatic effect on what your blood contains. Any diabetic who checks his/her blood sugar knows this. They eat a slice of whole wheat toast and watch their blood sugar skyrocket.

Mind what you eat. Make it enjoyable, of course. But drugs do not provide impunity.

People with higher scores need to try harder

Sam is a 69-year retired physician. He was thoroughly enjoying retirement: golf, travelling, going out to dinner two or three times a week, spending weekends with his grandchildren. His lifestyle tended towards overindulgence, but he managed to stay fit and trim. At 6 ft 1 inch, he weighed 194 lbs and could still run 3 miles without too much difficulty. Not as good as his marathon-running days, but still not too bad for 69.

Sam's heart scan score in 2003 was a concerning 1983--extensive plaque. His doctor wasn't much help in interpreting the scan and so Sam simply chose to ignore it.

A chance conversation with a physician friend 18 months later made Sam think that perhaps this shouldn't be ignored. That's when he came to my office.




I find that sometimes the best way to motivate someone to take action is to demonstrate just how fast plaque grows if action isn't taken. So I advised Sam to get another scan first, since 18 months had passed. His score: 2441, or a 23% increase.




Sam was now starting to catch on. We made several changes in his prevention program (starting from virtually nothing). He did undergo a stress nuclear (thallium type) of test, which he passed without difficulty--normal blood flow in all heart territories despite the extensive plaque.

But, for some reason, Sam simply allowed himself to drift back to old habits: poor choices in food, overindulging in hard liquor, missing his fish oil and other supplements, and his medication, sometimes up to several days a week.

Sam started having unusual feelings in his chest. He described a sort of nervousness along with skipped heart beats. So we repeated a stress test. This time, a large area of reduced blood flow in the front of his heart ("anterior left ventricle") was detected. Sam ended up receiving three stents in a difficult procedure.

The moral: If you're starting out with a lower heart scan score of, say, 100 or 200, maybe you'll get by without trying too hard--maybe. But if your score is higher, say, several hundred or in the thousands, you got to try harder.

You're starting later in the process. Your disease will allow you very little slack. Let your guard down and it will get you. Control over your plaque is, indeed, very possible--we do it all the time. Score reduction is also possible. But your effort must be more serious and consistent.

Money can't buy health

Fallen Enron CEO, Kenneth Lay, was pronounced dead early this a.m. after suffering a heart attack.

Mr. Lay apparently had no history of heart disease and there's been no indication that symptoms provided any warning. His death was therefore classified as "sudden cardiac death".


Yet here's a man previously worth hundreds of millions of dollars with access to any test or medical system he desired--many times over. Even more recently, with his wealth reduced following his legal troubles, he and his wife managed to put away $4 million dollars to ensure an income from the interest through annuities, untouchable by the courts.

Detecting Mr. Lay's heart disease would have cost him around a few hundred dollars or whatever it costs for a CT heart scan in his city. This would have alerted his (hopefully knowledgeable) doctor that he was a time-bomb. Pile on all the stress he'd been suffering, whether deserved or no, and the diagnosis would have required little thought.

Instead, Mr. Lay has joined the thousands of Americans who will die this year because of failing to get a simple, 30-second test that costs one-tenth the cost of a stress test. Mr. Lay wasn't as lucky as former President Bill Clinton, whose doctors likewise blundered their way through and missed obvious levels of heart disease.

All Mr. Lay needed was better information: get a heart scan, then follow a program of prevention like the Track Your Plaque program. You may not have hundreds of millions of dollars, but you have the information on how to not follow in Ken Lay's footsteps. Track Your Plaque--and stay alive.

What's important, what's not in your plaque-control program

Sometimes it's hard to know what is really important in your plaque-control or plaque-reducing efforts.

There are, indeed, crucial make-it-or-break-it factors that are necessary to gain control over plaque. If you hope to stack the odds of reducing your heart scan score as much as possible in your favor, then fish oil, vitamin D, 60-60-60 in the way of standard lipids, elimination of small LDL, etc. -- all the elements of the Track Your Plaque program--are necessary.

But there's lots of things that sidetrack people. I spend much of my day fielding questions from patients about all the things that either provide very little benefit for plaque control, or provide none at all.

Among the things that we have found to be too weak or useless for plaque control, or are "non-issues", include:

--Caffeine--Go ahead and enjoy a couple cups a day (though not a pot). The effect is too trivial to make much difference.

--Hawthorne--Yes, it may dilate coronary arteries modestly, but not enough to make any difference.

--Garlic--with the possible exception of a specific preparation called Aged Garlic Extract (an acqueous, non-oil-based, extract from Kyolic), garlic's effects are too tiny to help, e.g., drop in blood pressure 1-2 points. Use it, but don't expect much. Aged Garlic Extract may be an exception, in that a single study from UCLA suggested specific effects on slowing coronary plaque growth. We await more info on this.

--Anti-oxidants--There is no shortage of extravagant claims about the benefits of anti-oxidants. Unfortunately, there's very little human exerience with pine bark extract, pycnogenol, grapeseed extract, and so on. Is the purported benefit from anti-oxidation or through some other means, e.g., enhancement of nitric oxide synthase? No data.

--Policosanol--If you've followed the Track Your Plaque Special Reports, you already know what a disappointment this agent has been, despite the too-good-to-be-true clinical data. It doesn't work.

--"No-flush niacin"--Unfortunately, no flush, no effect. This high-priced supplement is still sold widely in the U.S. despite its complete lack of efficacy. It does not work in humans. (It works great in rats!)

Track Your Plaque continues to try to be the arbiter of truth in what works, what doesn't in truly stopping or reversing your coronary plaque. The proof positive? Stopping or dropping your heart scan score.
Low Thyroid and Plaque

Low Thyroid and Plaque

Having now tested the thyroid status of several hundred patients over the last few months, I have come to appreciate:

1) That thyroid dysfunction is rampant, affecting at least 25% of everyone I see.
2) It is an enormously effective means to reduce cardiovascular risk.


I'm not talking about flagrant low thyroid dysfunction, the sort that triggers weight gain of 30 lbs, gallons of water retention, baggy eyes, sleeping 14 hours a day. I'm talking about the opposite extreme: the earliest, subtle, and often asymptomatic degrees of thyroid dysfunction that raises LDL cholesterol, lipoprotein(a) (Lp(a), a huge effect!), and adds to coronary plaque growth.

Correcting the subtle levels of low thyroid:

1) Makes LDL reduction much easier

2) Facilitates weight loss

3) Reduces Lp(a)--best with inclusion of the T3 fraction of thyroid hormone.

Recall that, 100 years ago, the heart implications of low thyroid weren't appreciated until autopsy, when the unfortunate victim would be found to have coronary arteries packed solid with atherosclerotic plaque. It takes years of low thyroid function to do this. I advise you to not wait until you get to this point or anywhere near it.

I find it fascinating that many of the most potent strategies we are now employing in the Track Your Plaque process are hormonal: thyroid hormones, T3 and T4; vitamin D (the hormone cholecalciferol); testosterone; progesterone; DHEA, pregnenolone. Omega-3 fatty acids, while not hormones themselves, exert many of their beneficial effects via the eicosanoid hormone pathway. Elimination of wheat and cornstarch exert their benefits via a reduction in the hormone insulin's wide fluctuations.

We haven't yet had sufficient time to gauge an effect on coronary plaque and heart scan scores. In other words, will perfect thyroid function increase our success rate in stopping or reversing coronary plaque? I don't know for sure, but I predict that it will. In fact, I believe that we are filling a large "hole" in the program by adding this new aspect.

Comments (12) -

  • Stephan

    12/2/2008 10:17:00 PM |

    I suspect gluten sensitivity could play a role in many thyroid cases.  Celiac disease associates with autoimmune thyroid problems.  About 12% of Americans are verifiably gluten sensitive.  The number may actually be much higher if you include people who have a less pronounced immune reaction to gluten.  What do you think of this idea?

  • Fitness blogger

    12/3/2008 2:58:00 AM |

    That is very concerning. What are the typical symptoms of a low thyroid. I must get it checked.

  • Anonymous

    12/3/2008 3:03:00 AM |

    Dr.Davis,
       This post has convinced me that
    your eventual protocol will be THE
    standard MO in just a few short
    years.Many thanks for your blog.

  • Anonymous

    12/3/2008 2:34:00 PM |

    Now the question is, how to get a doctor to treat you for low thyroid function?  I went from doctor to doctor for a number of years complaining of most of the clinical symptoms of low thyroid.  Since my labs were "within the normal range", not one of them would prescribe any form of thyroid.

    Finally, in desperation, I went to a "wellness" doctor who did put me on a trial of Armour thyroid.  MAGIC!  I suddenly had some energy, the gray clouds lifted, and I was finally able to begin to lose some weight... which eventually led to a 50 pound weight loss, which had been impossible before treatment.

    Unfortunately, by then I had achieved a heart scan score which put me in the high 90th percentile for a 55 year old woman.  Thanks docs!!!

    The average doctor out there seeing patients is still treating based solely on lab numbers, NOT on the (obvious) clinical symptoms sitting in front of them.  Such a patient is far more likely to be given a script for an antidepressant... I had plenty of doctors who were MORE than willing to write scripts for those!

    I hope the TYP treatment protocol will eventually begin to make a dent in this situation.  I now know that years of untreated low thyroid certainly contributed to my high heart scan score.

    Thank you, Dr. Davis, for Track Your Plaque!

  • rnikoley

    12/3/2008 6:24:00 PM |

    Dr:

    I have recently been reading your blog lately, and referring lots of readers from my own blog.

    I'd be interested to get your "take" on this -- not diagnosis.

    'Bout 18 months ago, I was at 230 (5'10) and looked awful. I was on Omeprezol for years for gastric reflux, a variety of prescription meds since early 20s for seasonal sinus allergies, culminating finally in the daily, year round squirts of Flonaise-esque sprays (the best for control without noticeable side-effects), and finally, Levothroid for about the last 7 years or so, as I had elevated TSH (around 9ish).

    My BP was regularly 145-160 / 95-110.

    I decided to get busy. I modified diet somewhat, cutting lots of junk carbs, and began working out -- brief, intense, heavy twice per week. BP began coming down immediately, such that within only a couple of weeks I was borderline rather than full blown high. Then after about six months, a year ago, I went to full blown low-carb, high fat, cutting out all grains, sugar, veg oils, etc, and replacing with animal fats, coconut, olive oil. You know the drill. Then, first of the year I felt great and simply stopped all meds, including the thyroid. I also began intermittent fasting, twice per week, and for a twist, I always do my weight lifting in some degree of fast, even as much as 30 hours.

    That's when the weight really started pouring off. Take a look:

    http://www.freetheanimal.com/root/2008/09/periodic-photo-progress-update.html

    http://www.freetheanimal.com/root/2008/08/faceoff.html

    In July I figured it's about time for a physical. Here's the lipid panel, demonstrating am HDL of 106 and Try of 47, great ratios all around:

    http://www.freetheanimal.com/root/2008/07/lipid-pannel.html

    However, my TSH was even higher -- 16ish. It seems odd that I was able to lose 40-50 pounds of fat (10-15 pounds of lean gain for a 30 pound net loss at that time -- now an additional 10 pounds net loss).

    One disclosure is that I was drinking too much, almost daily, and quite a bit (gotta save some vices...). Anyway, I'm at the point now where I want to drill down. I know I need to see an endocrinologist and have T3 and T4 looked at, but in advance, I wanted to see if the recent changes I've made could make a difference:

    1. Stopped all alcohol.
    2. Stopped most dairy, except ghee and heavy cream, and cheese is now used as a "spice," i.e., tiny quantities -- no more milk.
    3. 6,000 IU Vit D per day.
    4. 3 grams salmon oil, 2 grams cod liver oil.
    5. Vit K2 Menatetrenone (MK-4) -- side story: getting off grains reversed gum disease for which I have had two surgeries, then supplementing the K2 DISSOLVED calculus on my teeth within days -- hygienist and dentist are dumbfounded. Stephan (Whole Health Source), who comments here, has an amazing series on K2.

    Well, that's about it. I'd be interested in your general take on this.

  • Dr. William Davis

    12/3/2008 8:26:00 PM |

    Stephan--

    I suspect that there is indeed a connection.

    I personally feel that wheat, for a variety of reasons, has NO place in the diet whatsoever.

  • Hannah

    12/4/2008 3:18:00 AM |

    I agree with anonymous. It is incredibly difficult to find a doctor who'll will diagnose and treat hypothyroid, whether mild or not. There are many people whose FT3 and FT4 levels are low (whether the lab considers them in range or not) yet their TSH is "normal" either because their pituitary gland has not responded to the situation yet or because the lab range for normal is outdated.

    Many labs still use a TSH range of 0.3 - 5.0, when the American Association of Endocrinologists has recommended 3.5 be the upper limit, with many individual thyroid specialists pointing out that the healthy population's TSH readings have a mode of about 1.0 and a TSH of 2.0, or even 1.5 in older people, can be considered suspect when there are symptoms. And of course if someone has hypopituitarism the TSH range has no meaning at all.

    So we have an unknown number of people in various stages of dysfunction because many doctors aren't knowledgeable about what the TSH reading means. Not to mention issues like T3 resistance. They are often misdiagnosed as having chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, depression, and so on, or just told to go lose weight. I know personally of one lady who went to her doctor - she is overweight, 46, had the symptoms of early hypothyroid, and tested for high cholesterol and elevated blood sugar. The doctor told her she had diabetes and wanted her to begin metformin. Luckily, she went for a second opinion and low thyroid levels were found. She's feeling much better now with T4/T3 combo therapy.

    There are also a lot of hypothyroid cases that aren't receiving adequate treatment. Some people receive relief with synthetic T4 replacement, some need a combination of T3 and T4, and others seem to need dessicated thyroid (eg Armour). Go to any thyroid support group and you will find people desperate for relief, their doctors are telling them their Synthroid is adequate, they must just be depressed or not eating well. Often the person will need to be treated for adrenal or pituitary function as well - as you have stated the hormones are all linked.

    If anyone believes they are having thyroid problems, do your best to shop around for a doctor who believes in testing Free T3 and Free T4 thyroid hormones and treating based on symptoms not strict lab results. Doctors who are both traditional practitioners as well as having an interest in "holistic" or "alternative" medicine may be the best place to look. But be wary of alternative health practitioners who claim they can cure hypothyroid with diet or homeopathic remedies, etc. A certain diet free of goitrogens will certainly help support your recovery but treating your hormones is necessary.

  • Dr. B G

    12/4/2008 5:50:00 AM |

    R Nikoley,

    Thank you so much for your efforts in promoting TYP at your informative health site! I've been keeping up with your blog posts and love your approach to optimal health and exercise regimens. Congrats with the incredible body recomposition shifts.  

    Your experience with butter oil and vitamins ADEK2 are esp informative for me.

    Your TG + HDLs ROCK!

    I'm stopping/limiting alcohol as well -- I think the health benefits can be immense.

    I have some questions for you:
    --Have you considered getting a heartscan eval?
    --Have you considered all the causes of Hashimoto's/HLA DR5 allele association? (it's an autoimmune disease just as HDL B27 is assoc with alkylosing spondylitis in many men; my sister had Grave's which is HDL DR 3 associated)
    --Have you had the vitamin D level evaluted? goal 25(OH)D 60-80 ng/ml
    --Have you had iodine testing? Deficiency leads to Hypothyroidism
    --Have you considered the role of casein as a food allergen (subsequently triggering the immune system to continue to attack the thyroid gland -- effectively killing it off like Oklahoma bombings)? Cream has casein -- though minute enough to trigger autoimmunity reactions.
    --Have you considered resumption of Levothroid or Armour Thyroid to control TSH to goal 1.0 to prevent further inflammatory responses?
    --Other factors related to Hashimoto triggers are: stress, high cortisol, adrenal depletion, zinc deficiency, iodine deficiency, B-vitamin deficiencies,  vit ADEK deficiencies, food allergies (wheat barley rye corn/maize egg whites casein), heavy metal accumulation (mercury, lead, etc).

    Hope that helps! I find it spectacular you cured your own gum disease.

    -G

  • Dr. B G

    12/4/2008 5:50:00 AM |

    R Nikoley,

    Thank you so much for your efforts in promoting TYP at your informative health site! I've been keeping up with your blog posts and love your approach to optimal health and exercise regimens. Congrats with the incredible body recomposition shifts.  

    Your experience with butter oil and vitamins ADEK2 are esp informative for me.

    Your TG + HDLs ROCK!

    I'm stopping/limiting alcohol as well -- I think the health benefits can be immense.

    I have some questions for you:
    --Have you considered getting a heartscan eval?
    --Have you considered all the causes of Hashimoto's/HLA DR5 allele association? (it's an autoimmune disease just as HDL B27 is assoc with alkylosing spondylitis in many men; my sister had Grave's which is HDL DR 3 associated)
    --Have you had the vitamin D level evaluted? goal 25(OH)D 60-80 ng/ml
    --Have you had iodine testing? Deficiency leads to Hypothyroidism
    --Have you considered the role of casein as a food allergen (subsequently triggering the immune system to continue to attack the thyroid gland -- effectively killing it off like Oklahoma bombings)? Cream has casein -- though minute enough to trigger autoimmunity reactions.
    --Have you considered resumption of Levothroid or Armour Thyroid to control TSH to goal 1.0 to prevent further inflammatory responses?
    --Other factors related to Hashimoto triggers are: stress, high cortisol, adrenal depletion, zinc deficiency, iodine deficiency, B-vitamin deficiencies,  vit ADEK deficiencies, food allergies (wheat barley rye corn/maize egg whites casein), heavy metal accumulation (mercury, lead, etc).

    Hope that helps! I find it spectacular you cured your own gum disease.

    -G

  • Anonymous

    12/5/2008 12:59:00 AM |

    Dr.Davis no where on your site do I see the importance of Vitamin C mentioned.Are you aware of the work of Linus Pauling concerning Vit C and the amino acid Lysine on calcification?
    Paulibng summarised that subliminal Scurvy was to blame and the RDA for Vitamin C is far too low.
    Ps. He did win a Nobel Prize for his research.
    Many thanks for a very interesting and informative site.

    http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/vitcheart.htm

  • Ryan W.

    3/1/2010 6:42:44 AM |

    Two things;

    1. Dr. Davis, can you provide any evidence that supplementing D3 will decrease arterial calcification? From what I've read, increased D3 (especially absent K1 menaquinone/K2) leads to increased calcification. It seems quite likely that the low levels of 25D3 observed in people with heart disease may be due to overconversion to calcitriol rather than lack of intake.  

    2. Anon wrote; "Dr.Davis no where on your site do I see the importance of Vitamin C mentioned."

    Ascorbate uses the same transporter as glucose (sodium mediated, IIRC.) Most animals make ascorbate from glucose and if your blood sugar is high, your body won't absorb vitamin C. So while mild scurvy may very well be a component of diabetes, it's questionable how well increasing oral intake will fix that problem, if the nutrient is simply not absorbed.

  • Anonymous

    3/11/2010 3:53:04 PM |

    I've come to believe my MANY health problems are hormone related but it's extremely difficult getting effectively tested and treated. I finally have some symptoms lessened by desiccated thyroid and am trying to sneak bioidentical low-dose estradiol, progesterone, DHEA past my migraine sensors. Hormones seem to be the most basic part of your system--if they could be in proper balance.

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