How important is high blood pressure?


Control of blood pressure is crucial for coronary plaque control and stopping your heart scan score from increasing.

Dr. Mehmet Oz (of Oprah fame and a cardiac transplant surgeon at Columbia University) made graphic point of this on the ABC TV news show, 20/20, last evening on an episode called "Our Bodies: Myths, Lies, and Straight Talk". (See a summary on the ABC News 20/20 website at http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2109291&page=1)

Although I believe he somewhat overstated the case for hypertension (proclaiming "If you're going to remember one number, if you're going to focus and fixate on one number in your entire health profile, it better be your blood pressure"), he made the point that a blood pressure of 115/75 is what you should have for optimal health.

I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, the old advice that desirable blood is 140/90 or less is absolutely wrong. At this level, we see flagrant increases in heart scan scores. We also progressive enlargement of the thoracic aorta, the large vessel that leaves the heart and branches to provide the major arteries of the body. Growth of the aorta to an aneurysm is also common at these formerly acceptable blood pressure. (The diameter of your aorta in the chest is an easily obtainable measure on your CT heart scan.)

The blood pressure you need for halting and reversing plaque growth on your heart scan is indeed 115/75 or less. (Not so low, however, that you're lightheaded.) This is the blood pressure that you were meant to have evolutionarily. It's also the blood pressure that helps tremendously in keeping your aorta from enlarging.

Watch for an upcoming exhaustive report on blood pressure and its plaque-raising effects and how to reduce it using nutritional strategies on the www.cureality.com membership website.

Is your doctor in cahoots with the hospital?

I got a call from a doctor about a patient we've seen in past.

"I've got Tricia in the office. She's been having some kind of chest and abdominal pain. I think it's esophageal reflux, but just to be safe I'm sending her to the hospital."

I advised this physician that, given Tricia's low heart scan score, she was unlikely to be having a coronary "event" like heart attack or unstable symptoms. It wasn't impossible, but just highly unlikely.

As the patient was without symptoms at the moment and had driven herself to his office, I offered to perform a stress test immediately. (Though stress tests are of limited usefulness in people without symptoms, they can be useful provocative maneuvers in people with symptoms of uncertain significance.)

The doctor declined. Tricia was, after all, in his office and he was responsible for any decisions despite any objections I voiced. Well, Tricia was directed by her doctor to go to a local hospital, though one with an especially notorious reputation for putting virtually anyone they can get their hands on through as many procedures as possible.

As you might guess, this doctor was closely associated with this hospital. He and his colleagues obtain incentives (or are penalized) if they do not generate revenue-producing procedures for the hospital.

So, guess what? Tricia ended up with several procedures, all of which yielded nothing--except $30,000 in revenues from Tricia's insurance company.

I harp on this deplorable state of affairs because it is utterly, painfully, and shamefully TRUE. Just look at the hospital and you'd better brace yourself for a series of tests that could cost you the equivalent of a nice 3 bedroom home. If they were truly necessary after the failure of preventive and other simple efforts, fine. But, all too often, they are driven by profit motives.

Could I have stopped this somehow from occurring? After all, Tricia was reasonably aware of the way we do things around here. I fear that even this failed to serve Tricia well. But I remain hopeful that, as we build broader awareness of these issues, that more and more people and physicians will stand up and refuse to tolerate the status quo.

Where is the Track Your Plaque program going?

I spend a lot of time worrying about how people can be helped to navigate through this program.

Take, for instance, the man in rural Texas who, while traveling in Dallas, got a heart scan on a whim. His score was 990. When he took the report back to his doctor, he got a smirk--and that's all. When he came to the Track Your Plaque program, he lacked a physician advocate to help him.

Or the woman from Florida who sought opinions from two reputable cardiologists for her heart scan score of 377. Both advised her that she needed a heart catheterization--despite her lack of symptoms, her 5-day-a-week exercise program, and normal stress test. She also lacks a physician advocate who acts on her behalf, helping her achieve success, rather than just churning her for money from hospital procedures.

For people like this and for others, I see the Track Your Plaque program evolving in several directions:

1) An online clinic--You enter and we take your "hand" and lead you step by step through the process, not only at the beginning, but over the months and years. This would help clear up some of the confusion and zigzags that some people experience trying to navigate through the program.

2) Develop physician and non-physician partners--The woman in Florida, for instance, could be referred to a doctor nearby who understands the program and is able to assist her. At present, this is virtually impossible because of the bias towards heart procedures, drugs as the sole treatment for heart disease risk, and the superficial physician-patient relationship. The majority of practicing physicians just don't understand the program despite the fact that it is based on sound clinical and experimental data. But it will in time.

Looking back, we've come a long way. I remember first having patients undergo heart scans 10 years ago. My colleagues laughed or called it "silly". The general public didn't know what they meant.

Now we're talking about how to broadcast the most powerful heart disease prevention program available in the world to a larger audience, but making it easier and more accessible. Mass media like Oprah's two hour-long spots helped, but we need to make the next leap. Not just identifying hidden heart disease to feed the hungry cardiovascular hospital procedure monster, but to educate/inform/empower the public on what to do with the scan once they've had it.

Who cares about triglycerides?

Walter's triglycerides were 231 mg. His LDL cholesterol was "favorable" at 111 mg, HDL likewise at 49 mg.

"Everything looks good," his doctor declared.

"Do you think the triglycerides are okay, too?" Walter asked.

"Well, the guidelines do say that triglycerides should be less than 150, but I believe you're close enough. Anyway, triglycerides don't really cause heart disease."


When I met Walter, I made several comments. First of all, in light of his heart scan score of 713, none of his numbers--HDL, LDL, or triglycerides-- were acceptable. But the triglycerides were glaringly and terribly too high.

Why? What exactly are triglycerides?

Triglycerides are a basic fat particle that, though they do not cause heart disease directly, trigger the formation of an array of abnormal lipoprotein particles in the blood that are among the most potent causes of heart disease known.

These abnormal lipoprotein particles include small LDL, VLDL, and IDL (intermediate-density lipoprotein--a really bad pattern). Excess triglycerides also cause HDL to drop. They also cause a distortion of HDL structure, causing the particles to become abnormally small. Small HDL is also useless HDL, unable to provide the protection that HDL is designed to do.

So Walter's elevated triglycerides are, in reality, a substantial red flag for an entire panel of abnormal particles that contribute to the growth of his coronary plaque.

So, if you get this kind of commentary on your triglycerides, ask for another opinion. (Track Your Plaque Members: Also see Triglycerides: Mother of meddlesome particles at http://www.cureality.com/library/fl_dp002triglycerides.asp.)

Total cholesterol and heart scans

Andy was fearful of heart disease in his life. At age 52, he'd already had four CT heart scans--one each year on or near his birthday.

Yet, when I looked at Andy's scans, his scores had been increasing 20-24% per year. Each and every score was greater by 20% or more over the previous.

So I asked Andy what steps he had taken to stop this relentless progression. "Well, I've always been real health conscious. But ever since my first scan, I really started sticking to a healthy diet, exercising nearly every day, and I take a bunch of supplements."

"What did your doctor advise?" I asked.

"Well, Dr. ---- said that nothing needed to be done, since my total cholesterol was always below 200."



Men's Health magazine's fabulous story about the folly of using total cholesterol to gauge heart disease risk.




Aaaauuuggghhh!! Wrong!

This man was, in fact, at rapidly escalating risk for heart attack. This rate of growth simply can't continue forever without igniting this bomb.

A total cholesterol below 200 is meaningless, as Andy's increasing coronary plaque proved. For instance, you can have a total cholesterol of 165 mg but with an HDL cholesterol of 27 mg. This would constitute very high risk for heart disease despite the low total cholesterol. The low HDL pattern is among the most common reasons for a misleading total cholesterol. Small LDL, high triglycerides, and lipoprotein (a) are other frequent reasons.

Andy, run the other way! Do not heed this doctor's advice! You need a solid answer to the question: Why exactly do I have coronary plaque in the first place?

Then, agree on a treatment program that corrects your specific causes.

Cardiologists out of touch

This weekend, I'm fulfilling some responsiblities I have every so often to some of the local hospitals. It gives me a chance to interact with many of my colleagues who are likewise "on call" for the weekend.

I tried to strike up several conversations with colleagues about how they were managing heart disease prevention. I received blank stares, puzzled looks, indifference. One colleague declared that 80 mg of Lipitor is all you need to know.

These same colleagues are the ones scrambling for the heart attack patients in the emergency room, climbing over one another for consultation in the hospital for patients with chest pain and heart failure. They're consumed with expanding the range of procedures they can perform.

Carotid stenting is hot. So is stenting of the leg arteries. Defibrillators have been a financial bonanza. Opportunities abound on how to add these procedures to a cardiologist's abilities.

But heart disease prevention? How about heart disease reversal?

Frankly, I'm embarassed by my colleagues' lack of interest. Imagine we had a cure for breast cancer--not a palliative therapy that just slows the disease down or prolongs life, but actually cures it once and for all. I would hope that all physicians and oncologists would learn how to accomplish this. What if instead they focused on learning new ways to remove breasts, administer new toxic chemotherapies, etc. but ignored the whole idea of cure?

This is what is happening with coronary plaque reversal. The answer is right in front of them, but the vast majority (99%) of cardiologists choose to ignore it. After all, prevention and reversal simply don't pay the bills.

That means that, in 2006, you simply cannot rely on your cardiologist to counsel you on how to achieve regression or reversal of coronary plaque. How about your internist, family physician, or primary care doctor? Well, they're busy doing pneumovax injections, Pap smears, managing knee and hip arthritis, low back pain, diarrhea, headaches, sinus infections and . . yes, dabbling in heart disease prevention.

And, for the most part, doing a miserable job of it. What you generally get echoes the drug manufacturers pitch: Take a statin drug, cut the fat in your diet.

Until the majority of doctors catch on, you're going to have to rely on sources like the Track Your Plaque program for better information.

What if your lipoproteins are perfect?



Sandy is a 56-year old woman--fit, slender, physically active, with no bad habits. A retired teacher, she has time to devote to her health. She bikes several days per week, mountain bikes, walks, and takes fitness classes. In short, she's the picture of perfect health.

Her heart scan score was not terribly impressive: 41. However, at her age, this modest score placed her in the 77th percentile. This suggested a heart attack risk of around 2-3% per year.

So we measured Sandy's lipoproteins. They were shockingly normal. In fact, Sandy is among the very rare person with absolutely no small LDL particles. All other patterns were just as favorable, including an HDL in the 80s.

This may seem like good news, but I find it disturbing. People are often initially upset by seeing multiple abnormal lipoprotein patterns. But lipoprotein abnormalities are the tools that we use to gain control over coronary plaque.

So what do we do when there are no abnormalities?

There are several issues to consider:

1) Your heart scan score reflects the sum total of your life up until that point. What if you were 20 lbs heavier 10 years earlier and your lipoproteins were abnormal during that period? Or you smoked until age 45 and quit? As helpful as they are, lipoproteins and related patterns are only a snapshot in time, unlike the heart scan score.

2) You have a vitamin D deficiency. This is unusual as a sole cause of coronary plaque. Much more commonly, it is a co-conspirator.

3) The heart scan is wrong--highly unlikely. Heart scans are actually quite easy, straightforward tests. (The only time this tends to happen is when scoring that appears in the circumflex coronary artery is actually in the nearby mitral valve. This really occurs only when there's very minimal calcium in the valve.)

4) There's a yet unidentified source of risk. Probably very rare but conceivable. For instance, there's an emerging sense that phopholipid patterns may prove to be coronary risks. One clinically available measure that we've not found very useful is phospholipase A2, known by the proprietary name "PLAC" test. (See http://www.plactest.com for more information from the manufacturer/distributor of the test.) But there's probably lots of others that may prove useful in future.

How often does it happen that someone fails to show any identifiable source for their coronary plaque? I can count the number of instances on two fingers--very unusual. (Thank goodness!)

Sandy's case is therefore quite unique. How should we approach her coronary plaque? In this unusual circumstance, lacking a cause, we tend to introduce therapies that may regress plaque independent of any measurable lipoprotein parameters. But that's a whole new conversation.

Fly to India for a bypass operation?


In the June 19, 2006 issue of People Magazine, there's an article called "The Doctor is in . . .INDIA". The report talks about how, with health care costs in the U.S. spiralling out of control, more and more Americans are leaving the country to have their procedure performed.

They tell the story of Mr. Carlo Gislimberti of New Mexico and cite these numbers:

Heart Surgery
Cost in U.S.: $200,000

Cost in India: $10,000


Mr. Gislimberti opted to have his coronary bypass operation in India for cost reasons.

But the People magazine report left out one other option: The Track Your Plaque program: $39.00

Do your part to save ballooning health care costs: Engage in a truly powerful program of heart disease prevention like the Track Your Plaque program. The cost difference is laughably huge. And you won't require a 12-inch chest incision.

Follow conventional guidelines and guess what? You're going to have a heart attack. Follow the American Heart Association diet and you'll have heart disease.

Cut to the chase. The only program that is able to detect, track, and control coronary plaque better than any other process I know of is this program.

Note: I am not proposing that a heart disease prevention program like Track Your Plaque can replace a procedure like coronary bypass when a dangerous situation has developed. The Track Your Plaque program is designed to be implemented in the years before heart surgery is required. That's when you have the greatest control over your fate.

Surprise: Heart scan score reversal

Gene is a jovial, fun-loving railroad worker who didn't take anything too seriously--including his heart scan score of 767.

This score placed Gene solidly in the 99th percentile (in the worst 1%). It came as no surprise to Gene. After all, his father died at age 36 of a heart attack and Gene's brother died at 60 of a heart attack. So Gene took life as it came and long ago decided not to fret about his fate.

But Gene's wife prodded him and prodded him to get the heart scan. That's when I met him.

Of course, Gene had been prescribed Lipitor by his doctor for a somewhat high LDL cholesterol. Our assessment uncovered several additional patterns including lipoprotein (a), small LDL, a pre-diabetic tendency, and a severe deficiency of vitamin D.

At 224 lb and 5 ft 6 inches in height, I felt that Gene was at least 40 lbs overweight.

One year later and with reasonable correction of all his patterns except weight loss and Gene's heart scan score was 590--a reduction of 23%!

Gene was thrilled, as was I. But, frankly, I was also surprised. Dramatic regression of coronary plaque tends to not occur so readily as long as pre-diabetic patterns persist and weight is not controlled.

The lesson: Often the only way to tell if you've achieved control or regression of coronary plaque is to have another heart scan. The tremendous variation in human responses never ceases to amaze me.

Call me when you're having chest pain


I met a patient, Anna, yesterday. She was quite frustrated and frightened.

At age 50, Anna suffered a heart attack and received a stent to her left anterior descending coronary artery. What she found upsetting is that, because several members of her family had suffered heart attacks in their 40s (Dad--heart attack at age 45, paternal uncle--heart attack age 40, and even another uncle with heart attack in his late 20s), she had repeatedly asked her doctor whether she was okay.

She received the usual array of false assurances: "You're feeling fine, right? Then don't worry about it." "Look. Your cholesterol is in the normal range. Even your cholesterol/HDL ratio is fine." "Women don't get heart disease until later in life."

All proved absolutely false. As we talked, Anna exclaimed, "I think what I've been told all along is that we'll take you seriously when you finally have a heart attack!"

She's exactly right. The vast majority of times, heart disease is discovered by accident, usually because of an "event" like heart attack. This is like changing the oil in your car when it finally breaks down--it's too late.

CT heart scan, followed by lipoprotein testing and associated values, then correction of your specific causes. It's that simple.
Flat tummy . . . or, Why your dietitian is fat

Flat tummy . . . or, Why your dietitian is fat

When I go to the hospital, I am continually amazed at some of the hospital staff: 5 ft 4 inch nurses weighing over 200 lbs, etc.

But what I find particularly bothersome are some (not all) hospital dietitans--presumably experts at the day-to-day of healthy eating--who waddle through the halls, easily 40, 50, or more pounds overweight. It is, to say the least, credibility-challenging for an obese dietitian to be providing nutritional advice to men or women recovering after bypass or stent while clearly not in command of nutritional health herself.

What's behind this perverse situation? How can a person charged to dispense "healthy" nutritional information clearly display such clear-cut evidence of poor nutrition?

How would you view a success coach dressed in rags? Or a reading coach who can barely read a sentence?

Easy: She follows her own advice.

Hospital dietitians are essentially forced to adhere to nutritional guidelines of "official" organizations, such as the American Heart Association and the USDA. There is some reason behind this. Imagine a rogue dietitian decides to advocate some crazy diet that yields dangerous effects, e.g., high-potassium diets in people with kidney disease. There is a role for oversite on the information any hospital staff member dispenses.

The problem, of course, doesn't lie with the dietitian, but with the organizations drafting the guidelines. For years, the mantra of hospital diets was "low-fat." More recently, this dated message has begun--only begun--to falter, but now replaced with the "healthy, whole grain" mantra. And that is the advice the hapless dietitian follows herself, unwittingly indulging in foods that make us fat.

Sadly, the "healthy, whole grain" message also contributes to heart disease via drop in HDL, increased triglycerides, a huge surge in small LDL, rise in blood sugar, increased resistance to insulin, tummy fat, and diabetes. Yes, the diet provided to survivors of heart attack increases risk.

The "healthy, whole grain" message also enjoys apparent "validation" through the enormous proliferation of commercial products cleverly disguised as healthy: Cheerios, Raisin Bran, whole grain bread, whole wheat pasta, etc. The "healthy, whole grain" message, while a health disaster, is undoubtedly a commercial success.

I'll bet that our fat dietitian friend enjoys a breakfast of healthy, whole grains in skim milk, followed by a lunch of low-fat chicken breast on two slices of whole grain bread, and ends her day with a healthy meal of whole wheat pasta. She then ascribes her continually climbing weight and size 16 figure to slow metabolism, lack of exercise, or the once-a-week piece of chocolate.

Wheat has no role in the Track Your Plaque program for coronary plaque control and reversal. In fact, my personal view is that wheat has no role in the human diet whatsoever.

More on this concept can be found at:

What's worse than sugar?

The Wheat-Deficiency Syndrome


Nutritional approaches: Large vs. Small LDL

Are you wheat-free?

Comments (19) -

  • Brock Cusick

    12/20/2008 5:26:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    In your clinical practice, do you see good results from patients who continue to eat oats and/or brown rice as long as they cut out sugar, wheat and corn?  

    I ask because Dr. Weston Price's research found examples of cultures that used these grains (oats and rice) while continuing to exhibit signs of good health. He did not have access to modern diagnostics however, so perhaps he missed some indicators.

    Kind regards,

    Brock Cusick

  • baldsue

    12/20/2008 7:16:00 PM |

    Each time I contemplated seeking advice from a dietitian, I changed my mind after I saw the dietitian and decided I was doing well enough on my own.  Never felt like I could believe or trust dietary advice from someone whose BMI was obviously higher than my own.

    And I love my new flat stomach.

  • Anonymous

    12/20/2008 9:44:00 PM |

    My father had surgery 7 years ago at a well known Indianapolis hospital. During visitation I could not help but notice how overweight (some obese) the female receptionists and nurses were. They all looked to be in their early to mid 30s.I was speechless.

  • Anonymous

    12/21/2008 7:40:00 AM |

    that's what can happened even to a best-selling author of diet books http://tinyurl.com/8d4d4m

    in my country there's a saying "a shoemaker that walks on bare feet"

  • Anonymous

    12/21/2008 7:42:00 PM |

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19083495

    Long-term consumption of a carbohydrate-restricted diet does not induce deleterious metabolic effects

  • Leniza

    12/22/2008 5:51:00 PM |

    I don't think that overweight dieticians (and nurses, and doctors)even follow their own advice. Not that that advice isn't garbage anyway, but I doubt that whole grains and lots of fruit and lean meats make up the bulk of their diets. It's probably more the case that these people aren't following the rules they give their patients (not that the rules would work, anyway). "Knowing" something and choosing to do it are two different things. I completely agree with you on sugar and wheat, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to indulge without guilt during the holidays (I don't have any health problems, though.)

    It's like with smoking. People KNOW it's bad for them, but they still do it. I know several doctors who tell their patients to quit smoking, but who smoke like chimneys themselves. I used to work with a PULMONARY PATHOLOGIST who was a chain smoker.

  • Jean-Luc Boissonneault

    12/22/2008 7:40:00 PM |

    Thank you, I'm so glad you said this! This makes me sick! I say practice what you preach or don't preach at all. At my personal training centre, my trainers are all in good shape. I tell them it's like a hopelessman giving financial advice.

  • Anonymous

    12/23/2008 3:27:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis, thought you'd find this interesting:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081215184308.htm

    Journal reference:

       1. Piconi et al. Treatment of periodontal disease results in improvements in endothelial dysfunction and reduction of the carotid intima-media thickness.

    The FASEB Journal, 2008; DOI: 10.1096/fj.08-119578

  • Ricardo Carvalho

    12/29/2008 1:16:00 PM |

    Dear Dr. Davis, I suppose the WHO wants everyone to be fat, don't they?! Nutritionists simply follow these poor recommendations. Who's fault? -> http://www.euro.who.int/nutrition/20030321_1

  • extropolitca

    12/29/2008 11:03:00 PM |

    WHO is right in his recommendation.
    Right with the mean of the people living on Earth.
    I'm italian, living in Italy.
    Mediterranean diet (the real deal) is very good if you are a peasant in agricultural job doing hard work (4.000 Kcal/day). Than you can eat your pound or two a day of bread plus salami, cheese and olive oil and fruits, be full, lean and healthy.

    You move to city, start to work in an office, cut all to 2.000 kCal/day proportionally and you find yourself hungry, gaining fat and lacking minerals and vitamins with the same diet.

  • Juhana Harju

    1/1/2009 1:22:00 PM |

    This is a naughty blog entry... but I agree. Smile I have been pondering the same question.

    While I approve the use of whole grains, I agree with Extropolitcan's view that reduced energy expenditure should lead to changes in diet. We should probably use more nutrient dense foods. I would also like to promote the idea of moderation, which is really a beautiful and positive idea, not appreciated enough in our Western culture.

    Wishing everyone a Happy New Year,

    Juhana Harju
    BMI 22

  • Anonymous

    11/25/2009 5:35:44 PM |

    I've seen more fat doctors than fat dietitians. I'm a dietitian and I'm at a perfect body weight, AND I follow my own advice, which is to eat in moderation. This is an extremely unfair stereotype to make. Between doctors and nurses thinking they know all about nutrition with minimal education in it, and patients asking for advice and then telling you that you're wrong right to your face, it's no wonder clinical nutrition has such a high burnout rate and low rate of job satisfaction.

  • Anonymous

    5/13/2010 1:52:39 AM |

    I'm a fat dietitian, and we fat dietitians know how much we are hated.

    I find it interesting that the topic of "dietitians that follow their own advice" had to be written with such contempt. Consider the message your readers came away with...many commented on their contempt of fat people rather than grasping the diet advice you are promoting. "A naughty post" BMI 22 wrote. Why naughty? Because ridiculing someone for being fat is still acceptable behavior in this part of the world, even though we know we should not "throw stones". Consider promoting your message without inciting the contempt of others.

    In addition, consider how being fat can't be hidden, the way other characteristics can. For example, what physical characteristics are required of a realtor, plumber, grocery clerk, insurance salesperson? It might not matter if they were fat since they are not dispensing "health" advice, but consider all of the unseen ways they might deviate from the norm.

  • Anonymous

    7/6/2010 6:47:04 PM |

    I'm a dietitian as well, and although not "fat", I find it challenging to maintain weight. This not because of any "bad" advice I'm giving, it's just the way life is sometimes.

    That said---I hope that someday you are publicly ridiculed for something you struggle with. I hope you are ridiculed for your imperfections, which I'm sure you have. Dietitians aren't any more perfect than anyone else. Just because we understand the physiology behind things doesn't mean that life is any easier for us. Maybe the "fat dietitian" in the hallway has things going on in her life that you don't know about, and you should keep your "fat" mouth shut about it.

  • buy jeans

    11/4/2010 6:34:29 PM |

    Sadly, the "healthy, whole grain" message also contributes to heart disease via drop in HDL, increased triglycerides, a huge surge in small LDL, rise in blood sugar, increased resistance to insulin, tummy fat, and diabetes. Yes, the diet provided to survivors of heart attack increases risk.

  • Michael Scott

    10/1/2011 2:31:15 AM |

    I'm 69 and have been on Atkins, level one, for a little more than eleven years.  I now consider myself a "former" overeater because as long as I remain below twenty grams of carbs per day, I'm totally in control of my eating.  Even after eleven years I understand that my chances of ever being able  to eat more than 20 grams of carbs per day will never happen!  Like an alcoholic, whenever I reach my "carb limit" I have to stop at that point.  I can't eat even a single bite of any grain products without "falling off the wagon".  A single bite of bread or pizza crust and I become an alcoholic with food!  I'm just amazed that more dietitians  are not overweight eating grains.  Anyone who can eat grains and still remain under 400 pounds has my admiration.

    Mike Scott

  • Dr. William Davis

    10/1/2011 1:45:47 PM |

    Hi, Mike--

    Your experience is something like my personal experience, though my carbohydrate cutoff is around 30 grams per day. Some of us are just not equipped to handle the high insulin requirement, while others can get away with much more. Find your individual path and stick to it!

  • Michael Scott

    10/1/2011 3:21:52 PM |

    This information is for the dietitian who suggested eating in moderation.  Is this the same advice we give to an alcoholic?  Do we tell them to drink in moderation?   About the only advice an over eater receives from a doctor or dietitian is:  Starve yourself for the rest of your life and don't forget to kill yourself exercising!  Now we all know that these may not be their exact words, but trust me that is exactly what an over eater hears just before going into “full panic mode”.  When my eating was “totally out of control”, I had as much chance of stopping at one slice of bread as a “down and out” alcoholic has of stopping after one drink!  Until we all understand this, there is almost no long term hope for a “fat” person.  We do not suggest that an alcoholic drink in moderation for a very good reason.  How can we advise someone with a major eating disorder to eat the very foods they are addicted too.  Had I not given up whole grains, fruit and any high carb vegetables, I would now be 400 pounds.  I learned this thanks to Dr. Atkins.  If not for him I wouldn't be here now.  How many 400 pound, 69 year old men do you know?  Moderation of grains/alcohol will never work.  

    Michael Scott (again)

  • Dr. William Davis

    10/2/2011 2:44:08 PM |

    Well said, Michael!

    You make a crucial point: How many 400 pound, 69 year old men do you know?

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