Stents, defibrillators, and other profit-making opportunities

As a practicing cardiologst, every day I receive a dozen or more magazines or newspapers targeting practicing physicians, not to mention the hundreds of letters, postcards, invitations to "talks", etc. that I receive. All of these materials share one common goal: To get the practicing cardiologist/physician to insert more of a manufacturer's stents, defibrillators, prescribe more of their drugs, etc.

This is a highly effective and profitable area. Pfizer's Lipitor, for instance, generated $12.2 billion just last year alone. This kind of money will fund an extraordinary amount of marketing.

I'm on the www.heart.org mailing list, a website for cardiologists. I'd estimate that 90% or more of their content is device-related: discussions of situations in which to insert stents, the expanding world of implantable devices, the ups and downs of various drugs. Rarely are discussions of healthy lifestyles, exercise, nutritional supplements, part of the dialogue.

How can you protect yourself from the brainwashed physician, flooded with visions of all the devices he can put in you, all the drugs that can "cure" your disease? Simple: information. Be better informed. Ask pointed questions. The idiotic lay press tells you to ask a doctor about his education. That's not generally the problem. Some of the best educated doc's I know are also the most flagrantly guilty of profiteering medicine.

Ask your doctor about his/her philosphy about the use of medications, devices, etc. If their word is God, take it or leave it, run the other way.

Will radiation kill you?

Several people have asked me lately if radiation is truly dangerous. These conversations were sparked by an editorial comment made on a column I wrote for Life Extension Magazine's April, 2006 issue on "Three ways to detect hidden heart disease".

Among the methods that were discussed in this piece was, of course, CT heart scanning. Anyone who is involved with CT heart scans Quickly recognizes the spectacular power of this test to uncover hidden, unsuspected heart disease, literally within seconds. In 2006, there's really nothing like it for the every day person to have hidden heart disease detected and precisely quantified.

Yet, the "rebuttal" to my article claimed that the broad use of heart scans was only my personal view and that, in truth, radiation kills people.

NONSENSE! If an ovarian cancer is discovered by a CT scan of the abdomen, is that unwise use of radiation? If pneumonia or lung cancer is discovered on a chest x-ray with minimal radiation exposure, have we performed a disservice. Of course not. In fact, these are often lifesaving applications of radiation.

Can radiation be used unwisely with excessive exposure? Of course. The 64 slice CT angiograms are just an example of this. Dr. Mehmet Oz announced on Oprah recently that this was a test to be used for broad screening of women for heart disease. This is wrong. The radiation required for a full 64 slice CT angiogram test is truly excessive for a screening application. You wouln't want to get breast cancer from your mammogram, would you? The radiation from a 64-slice CT angiogram is similar to that of a heart catheterization in the hospital--too much for screening. This is not to be confused with a CT heart scan for a calcium score performed on a 64 slice device. I think this can be performed with acceptable radiation exposure.

Think about what would happen, for instance, if you had your heart disease undetected, had a heart attack, and went to the hospital? During your hospitalization, you'd likely get five chest x-rays, a heart catheterization, perhaps one or more nuclear imaging tests, maybe even a full CT scan (with far more radiation than a screening heart scan). The amount of radiation of a heart scan is trivial compared to what you obtain in a hospital.

So take it all in perspective. The low level of radiation required for a simple heart scan (not an angiogram) does not by itself substantially add to your lifetime risk of radiation exposure. It may, in fact, save your life or reduce your life long exposure to radiation.

Are you using bogus supplements?

I consider nutritional supplements an important, many times a critical,part of a coronary plaque control program.

But use the wrong brand or use it in the wrong way, and you can obtain no benefit. Occasionally, you can even suffer adverse effects.

Take coenzyme Q10, for instance. (Track Your Plaque Members: A full, in-depth Special Report on coenzyme Q10 will be on the website in the next couple of weeks.) Take the wrong brand to minimize the likelihood of statin-related muscle aches, and you may find taking Lipitor, Zocor, Crestor, etc. intolerable or impossible. However, take a 100 mg preparation from a trusted manufacturer in an oil-based capsule, and you are far more likely to avoid the inevitable muscle aches. (Though, of course, consult with your doctor, for all it's worth, if you develop muscle aches on any of these prescription agents.)

Unfortunately, you and I often don't truly know for a fact if a bottle from the shelf of a health food store or drugstore is accurately labeled, pure, free of contaminants, and efficacious.

One really great service for people serious about supplements is the www.consumerlab.com website. They are a membership website (with dues very reasonable) started by a physician interested in ensuring supplement quality. Consumer Lab tests nutritional supplements to determine whether it 1) contains what the label claims, and 2) is free of contamination. (I have no reason to pitch this or any other site; it's just a great service.) They recently found a supplement with Dr. Andrew Weil's name on it to have excess quantities of lead!

What Consumer Lab does not do is determine efficacy. In other words, they do a responsible job of reporting on what clinical studies have been performed to support the use of a specific supplement. However, true claims of efficacy of supplement X to treat symptom or disease Y can only come with FDA approval. Supplements rarely will be put through the financial rigors of this process.

If you're not a serious supplement user, but just need a reliable source, we've had good experiences with:

--GNC--the national chain
--Vitamin Shoppe--also a national chain
--www.lifeextension.com or www.lef.org--A great and low-priced source, but they do charge a $75 annual membership that comes with a subscription to their magazine, Life Extension (which I frequently write for) and several free supplements that you may or may not need. Again, I'm not pitching them; they are simply a good source.
--Solgar--a major manufacturer
--Vitamin World
--Nature's Bounty
--Sundown

There are many others, as well. Unfortunately, it's only the occasional manufacturer or distributor that permits unnacceptable contamination with lead or other poisons, or inaccurately labels their supplement (e.g., contains 1000 mg of glucosamine when it really contains 200 mg). I have not come across any manufacturer/distributor who has systemtically marketed uniformly bad products.

It really helps to have someone to lean on

Among my patients are several husband and wife teams, both of whom have heart disease by some measure. Several couples, for instance, consist of a huband who's received a stent, survived a heart attack, or has some other scar of the conventional approach. The wives generally have a substantial heart scan score in the several hundred range.

There are a few couples for which the roles are reversed: wife with bypass, heart attack, etc. and husband with a substantial quantity of coronary plaque by CT heart scan.

From them all, however, I've learned the power of teamwork. When both wife and husband (or even "significant other") are committed to the effort of controlling or reversing heart disease risk, the likelihood of success is magnified many-fold. Everything is easier: shopping for and choosing foods, incorporating supplements in the budget, taking vacations with a healthy focus, following through and sticking with your program.

Several of the couples have succeeded in obtaining regression of plaque for both man and woman. Both have reduced their heart scan scores and, as a result, dramatically reduced the potential for future heart attack and procedures.

Unfortunately, I will also see the opposite situation: One spouse committed to the program but the other indifferent. They may say such things as "You can't control what happens in the future." Or, "There's no way you can get rid of risk for heart disease. My doctor says it's hereditary." Or, "I've eaten this way since I was a kid. I'm not changing now for you or for anybody else."

Such negative commentary can't help but erode your commitment to health. Most of us recognize these sorts of comments as self-fulfulling and self-defeating.

What should you do if you have an unsupportive partner? Not easy. But it really can help to seek out a supportive partner, whether it's a friend, relative, or other significant person in your life. Of course, not everybody can find such a person. Perhaps that's another way our program can help.

I'd like to hear from anyone who does obtain substantial support of someone close, or if you are struggling to do so.

Five foods that can booby trap your heart disease prevention program

There are several foods that commonly come up on people's lists of habitual foods that are truly undesirable for a heart disease prevention program. Curiously, people choose these foods because of the mis-perception that they are healthy. My patients are often shocked when I tell them that they are not healthy and are, in fact, detrimental to their program.

I'm not talking about foods that are obviously unhealthy. You know these: fried foods, greasy cheeseburgers, French fries, bacon, sausage, etc. Nearly everyone knows that the high saturated fat content, low fiber, and low nutritional value of these foods are behind heart disease, hypertension, and a variety of cancers.

I'm talking about foods that people say they eat because they view them as healthy--but they're not.

Here's the list:

1) Low-fat or non-fat salad dressings--Virtually all brands we've examined have high-fructose corn syrup as one the main ingredients. What does high fructose corn syrup do? Triggers sugar cravings, makes your triglycerides skyrocket (causing formation of abnormal lipoproteins like small LDL), and causes diabetes. The average American now ingests nearly 80 lbs of this evil sweetener per year. You're far better off with olive, canol, grapeseed, or flaxseed based salad dressings.

2) Breakfast cereals--If you've been following these discussions, you know that the majority of breakfast cereals are sugar. They may not actually contain sugar, but they contain ingredients that are converted to sugar in your body. They may be cleverly disguised as healthy--Raisin Bran, Shredded Wheat, etc.

3) Pretzels--"A low-fat snack". That's right. A low-fat snack that raises blood sugar like eating table sugar from the bowl.

4) Margarine--Forget this silly argument about which is worse, butter or margarine. Which is worse, strychnine or lead? Both are poisons to the human body. Who cares which is worse? Fortunately, there are now healthy "margarines" like Smart Balance and Benecol that lack the saturated fat or hydrogenated fat of either.

4) Bananas--Bananas are not all that intrinsically unhealthy. The problem is that people will say to me, "Oh sure, I eat fruit. Two bananas a day." What I hear is "I don't really eat fruit with high nutrient value, fiber, and reduced sugar release. I reach for only bananas which yield extreme sugar rises in my blood and are low fiber." Aren't they high in potassium? Yes, but there are better sources. Cut back if you are a banana freak.


Why the mis-perceptions? A holdover from the low-fat diet days and marketing from food manufacturers are the principal reasons. Of course, foods are meant to be enjoyed, but be informed about it. Choose foods for the right reasons, not because of some cleverly-crafted marketing campaign.

Breakfast of champions?

I spend time every day educating or reminding patients that breakfast cereals are not health foods.

I see jaws drop in shock when I tell them that, in my opinion and despite the marketing claims, Cheerios, Raisin Bran, Shredded Wheat, and the like do not yield health benefits. In fact, they do the the opposite: dramatically raise blood sugar and trigger an adverse cascade of events that eventually leads to diabetes and heart disease.

Why the health claims in advertising? Because these products contain insoluble fiber, the sort that makes your bowels regular. Yes, your bowels are important to health, too. But the benefits end there.

Breakfast cereals are a highly refined, processed food that are not good for your plaque control program. What they are is a highly profitable, multi-billion dollar business, deeply entrenched in American culture ("They'rrrre grrrrrreat!"--Tony the Tiger; "There's a whole scoop of raisins in every box of Post Raisin Bran!" Bet you remember them all.)

I find it particularly upsetting when I see the stamp of approval from the American Heart Association on some products. Gee, if the Heart Association says it's good for you, it must be true! Don't you believe it. The American Heart Association relies on corporate donations, just like any other charity.

If you must eat breakfast cereals, refer to www.glycemicindex.com for a full database of glycemic indexes. You can look up a specific product and it will list its glycemic index, or sugar-releasing properties. You should try to keep glycemic index of the foods you choose below 50.

For a revealing discussion of the influence of food marketers on our perceptions of food, see Track Your Plaque nutrition expert, Gay Riley's discussion The Marketing of Food and Diets in America at her website, www.netnutritionist.com.

In heart disease prevention, shoot for perfection

It really struck me today that it's the people who've chosen to compromise their prevention program who end up with trouble--heart procedures, heart attack, even heart failure.

Take Bob, for example. Bob is 73 years old and had a bypass operation in 2000. The procedure went well and Bob enjoyed 6 years of seemingly trouble-free life. Bob had a seriously low HDL cholesterol for which he as taken a modest dose of niacin, but was unwilling to do much more. His HDL cholesterol was thererefore "stalled" at around 40 mg. (We aim for 60 mg or greater.) We talked repeatedly about the options for increasing HDL but Bob was content with his results. After all, since his bypass operation, he'd felt well and could do all he wanted without physical limitation.

But Bob underwent a stress test for surveillance purposes (which we routinely do 5 or more years after bypass surgery). The test was markedly abnormal with two major areas of poor blood flow to his heart (signalling potential heart attack in future). Bob ended up getting 5 stents to salvage two bypass grafts, both of which showed signs of substantial degeneration.

I've seen this scenario repeatedly: A person is unwilling to go the extra mile to obtain perfection in lipid/lipoprotein patterns, lifestyle changes, and taking the basic, required supplements. Compromises eventually catch up to you in the form of another heart attack, more procedures, heart failure, physical disability, even death.

The message: Don't draw compromises in heart disease prevention. Coronary plaque is a chronic process. It will take advantage of you if you ever let your guard down.

The epidemic of small LDL

Of the patients I saw in my office yesterday, virtually EVERYONE had small LDL.

Small LDL is emerging as an extraordinarily prevalent lipoprotein pattern that drives coronary plaque growth. Previous estimates have put small LDL as affecting only 20-30% of people with coronary disease. However, in my experience in the last few years, I would estimate that greater than 80% of people with measurable coronary plaque have small LDL.

If you have a heart scan score >zero, chances are you have it, too.

I call small LDL a "modern" disease because it has skyrocketed in prevalence recently because of the great surge in inactivity in Americans.

When's the last time you walked to the grocery store and back, lugging two bags of groceries? How many years has it been since you've push-mowed your lawn? All the small conveniences of life have permeated further and further into our activities. Most of us spend the great majority of our day right where you are now--on your duff.

On the bright side, small LDL in most people is reducable by simply getting up and going. But the old teaching of 30 minutes of activity per day is now outdated. This was true when the other hours of your life included physical activities, like housework or a moderately active job. However, if the other 23 1/2 hours of your day are sedentary, then 30 minutes a day won't do it. An hour or more of activity, whether exercise or physical labor of some variety will get you better small LDL-suppressing results.

For most people with small LDL, fish oil and niacin are also necessary to fully suppress small LDL to the Track Your Plaque goal of <10 mg/dl.

A great discussion on vitamin D

If you need better convincing that vitamin D is among the most underappreciated but crucial vitamins for health, see Russell Martin's review of vitamin D and its role in cancer prevention. You'll find it in March, 2006 Life Extension Magazine or their www.LEF.org website at:

http://search.lef.org/cgi-src-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=0&page_id=1308&query=vitamin%20d&hiword=VITAM%20VITAMER%20VITAMERS%20VITAMI%20VITAMINA%20VITAMINAS%20VITAMINC%20VITAMIND%20VITAMINE%20VITAMINEN%20VITAMINES%20VITAMINIC%20VITAMINK%20VITAMINS%20d%20vitamin%20

Our preliminary experience over the past year suggests that vitamin D may be the crucial missing link in many people's plaque control program. We've had a handful of people who, despite an otherwise perfect program (LDL<60, HDL>60, etc.; vigorous exercise, healthy food selection, etc.--I mean perfect)continued to show plaque growth. The rate of growth was slower than the natural expected rate of 30% per year, but still frightening rates of 14-18% per year--until we added vitamin D. All of a sudden, we saw dramatic regression of 7-25% in 6 months to a year.

This does not mean that vitamin D all by itself regresses plaque. I believe it means that vitamin D exerts a "permissive" effect, allowing all the other treatments (fish oil, LDL reduction, HDL raising, correction of small LDL, etc.) to exert their full benefit. So please don't stop everything and just take D. This will not work. However, adding vitamin D to your program on top of the basic Track Your Plaque approach--that's the best way I know of.

MSNBC Report: We need more heart procedures!

A recent headline from MSNBC by Robert Bazell reads:

NEW YORK - Angioplasty, bypass surgery and cholesterol-lowering medications are among the many interventions that have brought a sharp decrease in heart disease deaths in recent years. But, as Dr. Sharon Hayes of the Mayo Clinic points out, there is one big problem.

“The death rates in women have not declined as much as they have in men,” she says.

The piece goes on to suggest that women are getting short-ended in the diagnosis of heart symptoms and heart attack. The solution: More testing to assess the need for procedures like bypass.

This is typical of the device and medication-dominated media consciousness: More procedures, more medication, more devices. Who's paying for advertising, after all? The money at stake is huge. But is this what you want?

Don't be swayed by media reporters with limited understanding of the real issues (at best), consciousness of who's paying for advertising (at worst). Yes, heart disese is often underestimated or misdiagnosed in women. The answer is better detection earlier in life followed by efforts to halt the process--effective, safe treatments for people's benefit, not just profit.
My personal experience with low thyroid

My personal experience with low thyroid

Something happened to me around October-November of last year.

I usually feel great. Ordinarily, my struggles are sleeping and relaxing. As with most people, I have too many projects on my schedule, though I find my activities stimulating and fascinating.

I blasted through a very demanding November, trying to meet the needs of a book publisher. This involved sleeping only a few hours a night for several days on end, all after a full day of office practice and hospital duties.

But it was getting tougher. My concentration was becoming more fragmented. Getting things done was proving an elusive goal. Exercise became a real chore.

Although I usually force myself to go to sleep, I was starting to fall asleep before my usual bedtime, and I was sleeping longer than usual.

It's been a tough winter in Wisconsin. Let's face it: It's Wisconsin. But it's been tough even for this region, with weeks of temperatures consistently below 10 degrees. Even so, I was having a heck of a time keeping warm. Extra shirts, socks, soaking my hands in hot water--none of it worked and I was freezing.

So I had my thyroid values checked:

Free T3: 2.6 pg/ml (Ref 2.3-4.2)
Free T4: 1.20 ng/dl (Ref 0.89-1.76)
TSH: 1.528 uUI/ml (Ref 0.350-5.500)


Normal by virtually all standards. I measured my first morning oral temperature: 96.1, 96.3, 95.9. Hmmmm.

My experience coincided with the Track Your Plaque and Heart Scan Blog conversations about low thyroid being enormously underappreciated, with the newest data on thyroid disease suggesting that a TSH for ideal health is probably 1.5 mIU or less. (More about that: Is normal TSH too high? and Thyroid perspective update .

Could this simply be a case of medical student-oma in which every beginning medical student believes he has every disease he learns about?

Despite the apparently "normal" thyroid blood tests, I took the leap and started taking Armour thyroid, beginning at 1/2 grain (30 mg), increasing to 1 grain (60 mg) after the first week.

Within 10 days, I experienced:

--Dramatic restoration of the ability to concentrate
--A boost in mood. (In fact, the last few blog posts before I replaced thyroid reflect my deepening crabbiness.)
--Large increase in energy, now restored to old levels
--Need for less sleep
--I'm warm again! (It's still <20 degrees, but I get easily stay warm while indoors.)

I am absolutely, positively convinced of the power of thyroid. I am further convinced from the clinical data, patient experiences, and now my own personal experience, that low levels of hypothyroidism are being dramatically underappreciated and underdiagnosed.

I shudder to think of what my life would have been like 6 months or a year from now without correction of thyroid hormone.

Now, the tough question: Why the heck is this happening to so many people?

Comments (31) -

  • Brock Cusick

    2/5/2009 12:57:00 AM |

    Here's one theory:

    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/12/omega-6-linoleic-acid-suppresses.html

  • Anonymous

    2/5/2009 1:03:00 AM |

    For my last thyroid test my TSH came back at .752 - which I believe is good.  I get cold relatively easy so figured before testing that my results would come back problematic.  

    Then again I'm thin, with little body fat.  

    Don't know if this means anything for thyroid results, but I've noticed a dramatic feeling in coldness when I eat milk products.  If I have milk product, I become deeply chilled in the winter time.  So I've avoided milk for around 20 years for that and other reasons.  

    Since a feeling of cold goes along with hypothyroidism I've wondered if cows milk can cause thyroid issues.

  • Diana Hsieh

    2/5/2009 3:15:00 AM |

    Funny, the symptoms you describe are basically the same as those of my dog when she developed thyroid problems.  She was very weary and down, unable to do much, always cold, etc.  However, I suspect that you didn't have the problems with your fur like she did.  Smile

    Going on thyroid meds gave her a new lease on life: it took years off of her life in very short order.  I can only imagine how much of a difference it made for her mental state from the inside -- and I wish that we'd caught it sooner.  

    For a person, the ordeal would have been even worse.  At least my dog didn't know any better.

  • Darcy

    2/5/2009 4:29:00 AM |

    One theory floating around in the hypothyroid circle...Antibiotics have kept more of us alive than would have prior to antibiotics being invented. Poor thyroid function will lead to poor immune system function. Take away the antibiotics we were given as children for our various ear infections and strep throat and many of us grown adults would not have made it to adulthood. Now we're just grown adults with wide-spread thyroid problems.

  • Anonymous

    2/5/2009 12:26:00 PM |

    All that stress may have caused some adrenal fatigue which will lower tissue responsiveness to thyroid hormone. It would be interesting to know what your Reverse T3 was, as adrenal fatigue will reverse the T3 making it useless at the tissue level but still measurable as a normal total T3. With continuing adrenal fatigue and exogenous thyroid hormone you may start feeling "hyper" in the future even with normal numbers. Heart palpitations were my "hyper" symptoms while on thyroid for Hashimoto's but with still lowish lab numbers. This was then misdiagnosed as "anxiety" (palpitations do cause anxiety) and I was put on an SSRI. Years later I addressed the adrenal fatigue, am off the SSRI, and can tolerate exogenous thyroid without palpitations.

  • Olga

    2/5/2009 2:51:00 PM |

    Hi Dr. Davis:

    I was very interested in this post.  I have recently found out that the thyroid nodule I had excised 4 years ago was most likely a nodular goitre due to iodine deficiency.  I have never felt well since the surgery.  I was put on synthroid.  More recently I've been on Armour, since I consulted a complimentary physician.  He discovered that my iodine levels were very low.  I've started supplementing with Lugol's and now I've been able to go off the thyroid meds and I'm feeling much better.  I too have had thyroid problems every fall/winter since the surgery which resolve with the coming of spring.  Once I look forward to having my lipids rechecked once my iodine levels are normalized to see if it has any effect.  I was diagnosed with familial hypercholesterolemia 20 years ago.  Your blog has been a wealth of information.  Thanks so much.

    Olga

  • Nameless

    2/5/2009 9:40:00 PM |

    Have you considered that perhaps stress and lack of sleep simply caused your thyroid functions to become 'sluggish'?

    So instead of your thyroid being the cause of your symptoms, it was your lack of sleep + stress, which then caused your thyroid to work less effectively? Meaning... your thyroid issues, if there are any, were temporary, and restoration of sleep, etc. would result in an improvement?

    Armour would improve your symptoms under such a scenario too. But perhaps simply sleeping more, etc. would have done the same. Although this is a bad analogy, it's as if you took lots of caffeine or an amphetamine to keep yourself awake, more alert, etc. Yes, you would feel better, but taking better care of yourself, sleeping more, less stress would be the better option.

    Your hormone numbers are actually pretty good, by the way. I mean, no Endo or familty doctor would ever treat you with a TSH that close to perfect, and your hormone levels, although not perhaps ideal, really weren't that bad. And TSH, T3 and T4 all do fluctuate, not only day to day, but in the same day. Your TSH could come back close to 1.0 after a couple of night's of good sleep.

    Did you have your thyroid antibodies tested? That is the main cause of hypothyroidism, and can cause symptoms on their own, regardless of thyroid hormone levels (as least that's what I believe, but some doctors may think differently).

    I don't mean to sound negative with these comments, but I'm just playing Devil's advocate. It does sort of sound like you are finding thyroid disease everywhere, even in yourself, when it may not exist.

    Generally, for a proper  thyroid disease diagnosis, you can't go by a single test if your TSH is close to normal like that. A TSH >2-3, raised thyroid antibodies, and an ultrasound are usually used. If you come back abnormal on a couple of those, then yeah, you probably have Hashimoto's or some sort of thyroid problem.

  • Jenny

    2/5/2009 10:02:00 PM |

    If you have been low carbing, there is something I read about called Euthyroid Syndrome where your thyroid slows as response to the ketogenic state--the body thinks it is starving and slows down.

    This is different from thyroid disease. Very common.

    Unfortunately, it is impossible for us ordinary mortals who don't have prescription pads to get the thyroid hormone we need.  Doctors see the normal test results and refuse to prescribe.

    For me, the only cure is to up the carbs again (with insulin) since I can't get treatment.

  • Lola

    2/5/2009 10:33:00 PM |

    A lot of the Armour/natural throid fans and proponents say that your FT3 should ideally be at the top of the range, and FT4 at least in the top third. So, by the looks of it, you were in fact having something of a thyroid dip.

  • Scott W

    2/5/2009 10:39:00 PM |

    So...how do you convince a doctor to prescribe thyroid when your lab results don't support it?

  • Dr. William Davis

    2/6/2009 12:13:00 AM |

    All great comments.

    However, I've told everyone only part of the story. For instance, in patients we are seeing marked reductions in LDL and lipoprotein(a), not to mention improved energy, weight loss acceleration, and mood.

    As time passes, I am becoming more and more convinced that first a.m. oral temperature is the best way to identify low thyroid.

  • Nameless

    2/6/2009 2:12:00 AM |

    Improvements in lipid scores is another matter. It's not subjective anymore then.

    The question of why it's so common then is an interesting issue. You can't just assume it's lifestyle or lack of D, etc.  It is possible that's the cause, but it'd be a guess and not really scientific.

    I mean, we can safely assume you are following your own plan, yet  your thyroid may be sluggish there too.

    For Euthyroid Syndrome, you'd want to get your reverse T3 tested. At least that's what my doc said to test for. And as for getting treatment when your labs don't support it... umm... it's a problem. It's difficult enough getting treatment when your labs are abnormal.

    I'm glad Dr. Davis mentioned that there are patients with reduced LDL after treatment. I've recently been diagnosed with Hashimoto's -- TSH routinely >3 this past year, elevated antibodies, and two abormal ultrasounds later, an Endo is finally treating me. My lipids have been extremely stubborn, even though I follow a low carb, very little wheat diet, fish oil, normalized D, exercise, etc. My trigs won't go below 150 & LDL is in the 120ish range. Thankfully my Lp(a) has always been low 4-5. We'll see after treatment (assuming my endo doses me enough) if my numbers improve.

  • Anonymous

    2/7/2009 1:45:00 AM |

    The free t3 result you posted was low.  Very low.  This can cause a spiral of damage & disease.

    I am one who had a normal TSH even when my free t3 falls below the normal range.  The HPA Axis is at fault.  

    This situation is not as rare as some doctors like to think.  

    I do not believe doctors should rely only on TSH (a pituitary hormone.)  Free t3 is THE active thyroid hormone, and deserves the strongest attention.  

    I like to keep my ft3 at or just above the midpoint of the lab's reference range.

  • Anne

    2/7/2009 1:21:00 PM |

    Dr Dach reviews the book "Stop the Thyroid Madness" and links to other books and websites concerning thyroid/synthroid/armour issues. http://jeffreydach.com/2009/02/06/stop-the-thyroid-madness-by-jamie-bowthorpe.aspx

    I have been on Synthroid for years and now wonder if I would feel better on Armour. I am always cold and my skin, although less dry, it is still dry. I lost hair at one time. I am no longer losing hair, but I never grew back what I lost.

  • Anna

    2/7/2009 7:18:00 PM |

    Not long ago my son and I were tested for gluten (IgA antibodies, anti-tissue transglutaminase IgA, and genes, and we both tested positive but with a slightly different combination of genes that predispose.  

    Then it occurred to me that the hypothyroid symptoms greatly worsened during the years when I was eating the most gluten, at the end of my "bread machine phase" (bread machine recipes often specify high gluten wheat flours and added wheat gluten to boost rising performance and enhance texture) and when I was low carbing, but consuming LC bread products that contained not only soy, but added wheat gluten to boost protein and reduce starch content.  Gluten sensitivity and thyroid conditions often are related, but of course, I was not checked for anti-thyroid antibodies at the time.  

    I still eat LC, but a few years ago I did drop the LC bread and wheat products (and basically grains altogether) because they didn't fit into my goal to eat less industrially processed (fake) foods.  I'm not entirely paleo, but definitely eat in that direction, with very good results.  Wish I could say that was enough for my thyroid function to improve without added thyroid hormone supplementation, but I still take thyroid hormone (T4 and T3) to feel better.

  • Anonymous

    2/8/2009 12:40:00 AM |

    Unfortunately, it is impossible for us ordinary mortals who don't have prescription pads to get the thyroid hormone we need.

    For those in jurisdictions in which importation is allowed (or for those willing to risk ordering a medication that is probably not a high priority for prosecution):

    U.K. source
    S. Africa source

  • Trinkwasser

    2/8/2009 1:08:00 PM |

    I've heard a lot of similar stories in the UK - in many areas thyroid is not treated unless TSH is over 5 or even in double figures, and T3 and T4 tests are unavailable.

    Some people simply do not do well unless TSH is around 1 and it often takes a geographical move to obtain treatment, the effects of which can be dramatic and may include improved BG and "treatment resistant" depression resolving.

    Yet others need more subtle rebalancing until T3 and T4 are in range.

    As to causal factors, no clue, but this seems commoner that it's supposed to be.

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    2/8/2009 5:39:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis I'd be interested in your experiences with patients with low testosterone levels and its relation to heart disease, plaque progression and metabolic syndrome. Has restoration to "normal" levels led to improved cardiovascular health?

  • JD

    2/9/2009 2:34:00 PM |

    Regarding Euthyroid Syndrome. The full name is Euthyoid Stress Syndrome. Dr. Eades says he did not see this effect in his patients. See the comments section of this link for further information. http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/vampire-myths/

  • Nancy LC

    2/15/2009 6:43:00 PM |

    People practicing CRON, calorie restriction with optimal nutrition, also report low T3 levels.  In fact, they say low T3 levels is associated with longevity and seem to think it's a good thing.

  • lynn

    3/10/2009 1:41:00 AM |

    Yes there is a school of thought that Free T3 should be at the top of the range and free T4 mid range or higher. Since this is the school of thought that actually has success with patients feeling better, I would go with that. My TSH was totally normal like yours but my antibodies were pretty high. Although, that being said I have read that a TSH over 1 in a woman and 1.5 in a man is already in the danger zone http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/dommisse.htm. Have you had your antibodies tested?

    There is a thyroid scandal going on all around the world where those of us with hypothyroidism are neither being diagnosed nor adequately treated.

    My temps have been in the 96's for years. God knows how long my thyroid gland has been being attacked.

    FYI it has been reported that most pateints feel their best on 3-5 grains of armour. There is even a theory that in healthy individals TSH is very, very low and that TSH only activates as a kindof emergency response.

  • mike V

    3/28/2009 12:28:00 PM |

    Here is a good NYTimes overview on treatment and controversy. 3/28/09

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/ckg6uq

    MikeV

  • ~MyGalSal~

    9/17/2009 12:42:09 PM |

    I could be a poster child for what no T3 can do to you.  I wonder if you could address the recent lack of availability of Armour thyroid and the disinformation regarding such.  I have resorted to ordering glandulars from NutriMeds but I am already suffering from a week of having to go back on levoxyl because of Armour not being available.  I have called many pharmacists and physicians and asked them what they are being told and virtually EVERYONE SAID NOTHING.  Any comments appreciated on this.  To me, this borders on criminal to abruptly stop the availability with confusing and contradicting reasons and all they will say is take a syhthetic.

  • Anna

    9/17/2009 9:27:14 PM |

    MyGalSal,

    The thyroid shortage is most acute at the corporate chain drugs stores.  They almost always order via dtisributers (middlemen) rather than direct from the maker.  

    Try a compounding pharmacy, either local or via online/mail order.  If you don't know of one, try this site:  www.iacprx.org/  Compounding pharmacies make individual preparations for all sorts of reasons.  They are often located near major medical centers.

    Many compounding pharmacies still have natural thyroid supplies (though they may be limiting refills to give everyone a chance during the shortage).  Compounding pharmacies also can compound a thyroid preparation specifically for you (though it is more naturally expensive than buying ready-made pills) if they still have a supply of the bulk thyroid extract powder, but your doctor will have to know how to write a prescription for compounded meds (my HMO endo didn't know how, I had to find out for him!).

    I've been able to get Nature-throid via a compounding pharmacy (they mail it to me), though lately I've had to be flexible and split larger dose tablets in half or take two of a smaller dose.  I don't mind, as long as I can still get Naturethroid.

    Janie Bowthorpe at Stop the Thyroid Madness blog has tips for maintaining your access to natural desiccated thyroid hormone, including having your doctor write your prescription as "broadly" as possible to so that the pharmacy can fill it with different brands or tablets cut in half, etc.  YOu may have to think outside of the "shopping center drugstore box" though.  

    I haven't tried this yet, but many people are having good luck ordering thyroid hormone from Canada (there is NO thyroid hormone shortage in Canada and Europe).  Again, Janie at STTM blog has posted specifics and communication with a Canadian manufacturer if you decide to try this route

    Good luck.

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  • Megaera

    2/23/2011 9:34:53 PM |

    Pardon me for sounding bitter, but you got to resolve effortlessly symptoms I had to endure for four years (actually they were much worse, but it took 3 years of being told I had perfectly normal TSH levels, so shut up, and then another year to get an appointment with an endocrinologist who said, why yes, yes, you do have a goiter, we'll try synthroidl.  Two years on that crap, which didn't help at all, eventually some t3 which didn't either, and finally a minimal dose of Armour Thyroid (1 grain) which keeps me from feeling quite so crap, but I can't lose weight -- ever -- and can't ever stay warm in winter, or regulate my body temp in summer.  I HATE doctors.  And no, I can't change endos, there are't any more endocrinologists in this area, I'm damned lucky I got this one.

  • Natasha

    6/13/2011 7:24:53 AM |

    I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism April 2006. My doctor started me on 100 mc of synthetic drug a day. After being on the dose for 2 months TSH level was down to 1.4 and my area normal range is 0.2-4.5. My doctor decided to keep me on the 100mc Thyroxine a day to see how i went. 4 weeks later i started to feel alarming symptoms as if i had Hyperthyroid. So I decided to switched to bovine thyroid, so far I gained positive results.

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