No more Lovaza

That's it: I will NEVER ever write another prescription for Lovaza.

I actually very rarely write a prescription for Lovaza, i.e., prescription fish oil. But this was the last straw.

I advised a patient that we've had good success using high-doses of fish oil to reduce lipoprotein(a), Lp(a). 6000 mg per day of the omega-3 component (EPA + DHA) from fish oil reduces Lp(a) in 60% of people after one year. (Recall that Lp(a) is the most aggressive known lipid-related cause of heart disease.)

The two preparations I generally suggest are either the very affordable Sam's Club Members Mark Triple-Strength Fish Oil with 900 mg EPA + DHA per capsule: 7 capsules per day. Another great product (my personal favorite because of its extreme purity--it doesn't even smell like fish oil): Pharmax Finest Pure Fish Oil with 1800 mg EPA + DHA per teaspoon: 3 to 3 1/2 teaspoons per day.

Both preparations work great and are quite affordable, given the high dose. For the Sam's Club preparation, it will cost around $30 per month, while the Pharmax liquid will run around $49 per month.

Well, the woman's husband insisted on a prescription for Lovaza. One Lovaza capsule contains 784 mg EPA + DHA per capsule: 7 to 8 capsules per day.

Here are some prices for Lovaza from online pharmacy discounters:
Prescription Giant: $78.99 for 30 capsules ($2.63 per capsule)
Planet Drugs Direct: $135 for 100 capsules ($1.35 per capsule)

These are lower than the prices I obtained in past by calling local pharmacies in my area, quite a bit lower, in fact.

Filling the Lovaza prescription at Prescription Giant will therefore cost $552.93 to $631.92 per month; at Planet Drugs Direct it will cost $283.50 to $324.00 per month. At local pharmacies, a similar 7 to 9 capsules Lovaza per day will cost upwards of $800 to $900 per month.

The patient's husband insisted on the Lovaza prescription because he knew that his insurance would cover it. When I pointed out that this was a large cost that would have to be borne by others in their healthcare premiums, he said that didn't matter to him.

I hesitated, but ended up writing the prescription for 7 Lovaza capsules per day. As soon as I handed to him, I regretted it. In fact, I am embarassed and angry at myself for having given in.

So I vowed: I will NEVER EVER write another prescription for Lovaza.

I do not believe that we should spread the excessive profiteering of the pharmaceutical industry around on the backs of people who pay their healthcare insurance premiums, just so that a few people, like this selfish couple, can save a few dollars a month.

This is your brain on wheat II

In the original Heart Scan Blog post, This is your brain on wheat, I discussed how opioid peptides (i.e., small proteins that act like opiates such as heroine or morphine) that result from digestion of wheat cause unique effects on the human brain, particularly addictive behaviors. I also briefly reviewed how elimination of wheat has been shown to reduce auditory hallucinations and other psychotic behaviors in a subset of people with paranoid schizophrenia.

These two phenomena, addictions and schizophrenia, are most likely the result of exorphins that cross the blood-brain barrier. Exorphins--exogenous morphine-like compounds--can be blocked by opiate-blocking drugs like naloxone and naltrexone. Naloxone is used in hospitals to reverse morphine or heroine overdoses; naltrexone is being repackaged into a weight loss drug, since blocking wheat-derived exorphins reduces appetite. (Yes: The USDA tells us to eat more wheat, the drug industry sells us the antidote.)

There's another way that wheat can affect the brain and nervous system: immune-activated damage.

This is similar to the effect seen in celiac. There's even overlap with some of the antibody markers used to diagnose celiac, like the anti-gliadin antibodies and the anti-endomysium antibodies.

The most common immune neurological syndrome consequent to wheat consumption is cerebellar ataxia, a condition in which an immune response causes damage to the Purkinje cells of the cerebellum, the portion of the brain responsible for balance and coordination. This results in stumbling, incoordination, incontinence, and eventually leads to reliance on a cane or walker and wearing a diaper. Average age of onset: 53 years. A shrunken, atrophied cerebellum can be seen on an MRI of the brain.

Problem: Most people with central nervous system damage caused by wheat do not have any intestinal symptoms, like diarrhea and abdominal pain, the sort of symptoms usually associated with celiac disease. It means the first sign of wheat-induced brain damage may be bumping into walls and wetting your pants.

There's no such thing as a "no-carb" diet

When I tell patients how I advise a wheat-free, cornstarch-free, sugar-free diet on the background of a low-carbohydrate diet, some people ask: "But can I live on a no-carb diet?"

Well, there's no such thing as a "no-carb" diet. Low-carb, yes. No-carb, no.

Here are the carbohydrate contents of various "low-carb" foods:

Gouda cheese--3 oz contains 1.65 grams carbohydrates
Mozzarella cheese--1 cup contains 2.89 grams carbohydrates
Walnuts--4 oz (56 nuts) contains 2.96 grams carbohydrates
Almonds--4 oz contains 1.38 grams carbohydrates
Sour cream--one-half cup contains 3.31 grams carbohydrates
Red wine--3.5 oz glass contains 2.69 grams carbohydrates
Eggplant--1 cup cooked contains 8.33 grams carbohydrates
Green pepper--1 medium-sized raw contains 5.52 grams carbohydrates
Cucumber--1 medium contains 4.34 grams carbohydrates
Tomato--1 medium contains 4.82 grams carbohydrates

(Nutrition data from USDA Nutrient Database)

In other words, foods thought to be "low-carb" actually contain a modest quantity of carbohydrates.

Such modest quantities of carbohydrates may not be enough to trip your blood sugar. But add up all the "low-carb" foods you consume over the course of a day and you can easily achieve 30 grams or more carbohydrates per day even without consuming any higher carbohydrate foods.

Why doesn't your doctor try to CURE diabetes?

Imagine you have breast cancer. You go to your doctor and she says, "As your pain worsens, we'll help you with pain medication. We'll fit you with a special bra to accommodate the tumor as it grows. That's all we're going to do."

"What?" you ask. "You mean just deal with the disease and its complications, but you're not going to help me get rid of it . . . cure it?"

It would be incredibly shocking to receive such advice. Then why is that the sort of advice given when you are diagnosed with diabetes?

Say you go to the doctor. Lab values show a fasting blood sugar of 156 mg/dl, HbA1c (a reflection of your previous 60 days average glucose) of 7.1%. Both values show clear-cut diabetes.

Your doctor advises you to 1) start the drug metformin, then 2) talk to the diabetic teaching nurse or dietitian about an American Diabetes Association (ADA) diet.

The ADA diet prescribed encourages you to increase carbohydrates and cut fats at each meal and maintain a consistent intake so that you don't experience hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes. You follow the diet, which causes you to gain 10-15 lbs per year, increasing your "need" for diabetes medication. You doctor adds Actos, then Januvia, then injections of Byetta.

Three years and 34 lbs later, you are not responding well to the drug combination with blood sugars rarely staying below 200 mg/dl. You've developed protein in your urine ("proteinuria"), lost 30% of your kidney function, and you are starting to lose sensation in your feet. So the doctor replaces some of your medication with several insulin injections per day.

This formula is followed millions of times per year in the U.S. So where along the way did your doctor mention anything about a "cure"?

Adult diabetes is the one chronic disease that nobody cares to cure. Treat it, maintain control over blood sugars, but cure it? Most physicians say it's impossible.

The tragedy is that diabetes is a curable condition. I've seen it happen many times. Physicians dedicated to curing diabetes like low-carb expert, Dr. Mary Vernon, have cured it countless times. Dr. Eric Westman and colleagues have been building the case for the carbohydrate-restricted cure for diabetes with studies such as this. In this last study, of the 8 participants on insulin + medications at the start of the study, 5 no longer required medications at the close of the study--they were essentially non-diabetic.

I tell patients that diabetes, in fact, is a disease you choose to have or not to have--provided you are provided the right diet and tools. Sadly, rarely are diabetics told about the right diet and tools.

That's why Cadbury Schweppes has been a major contributor to the American Diabetes Association, as are other processed food manufacturers and the drug industry, all who stand to profit from maintaining the status quo.

The cure? Eliminate or at least dramatically reduce carbohydrates, the foods that increase blood sugar.

Note: If you have diabetes and you are taking any prescription agents, such as glyburide, glipizide, insulin, and some others, you will need to discuss how to manage your medications if you reduce carbohydrates. The problem is finding a doctor or other resource to help you do this.

LDL pattern B

Here's a Q&A I stumbled on in the Forum of MedHelp, where people obtain answers from presumed health "experts."

Question:

My VAP test results in July 07 identified an LDL Pattern B.
Overall results:
Total 150
HDL 75
LDL 61
Trig 60
HDL-2 17
LP(a) 6.0
LDL Pattern B

Medications:
Lipitor 10mg
Zetia 10mg
Altace 10mg
Atenolol 50mg
Plavix 75mg
Aspirin 81mg

I had several heart attacks which resulted in CABG performed May 2000. I am a 53 year old white male , 6'1", 190 pounds, exercise every day, watch my diet and feel great. Everything looks OK except my LDL Pattern B. Is there any therapy to improve the Patten B?


Answer from CCF, MD:
Your results indicate an LDL pattern B, which generally indicates small atherogenic LDL particles which may cause increased risk for CAD. However, there are several problems with LDL patterning: 1) its unreliability (of LDL pattern testing ), 2) unclear clinical evidence regarding regarding the usefulness of LDL patterns and particle size. The majority of evidence regarding the progression of atherosclerosis is with LDL lowering and to an smaller extent HDL raising.

All available clinical evidence shows that any particles in the VLDL, IDL, or LDL range are atherogenic, and there is no evidence that whether belonging to pattern A or B one is more atherogenic than others.

Subclass studies have proliferated over the last few years, but many of these studies were funded or subsidized either by suppliers of the assays as a method to expand their use and move them into mainstream practice, or by pharmaceutical companies in an attempt to claim some advantage over other therapeutic agents.
Thus, current data on LDL subclasses are at best incomplete and at worst misleading, suffering from publication bias, and now given the recent results of the Ensign et al. study, unreliable.

Your LDL, and HDL are at goal. The Lpa level is still not clearly linked as a modifiable risk factor for CAD, although elevated levels are now know to be linked to stroke.

Continue with your present treatments: aspirin, plavix, ateonol and altace are all essential medications.



Wow. The extent of ignorance that pervades the ranks of my colleagues is frightening.

Contrary to the response, LDL particle size assays are quite reliable and accurate. I've performed many thousands of lipoprotein assays and they yield reproducible and clinically believable results. For example, eliminate wheat, oats, cornstarch, and sugars and small LDL drops from 2400 nmol/L to 893 nmol/L (NMR)--huge drops. If repeated within a short period of time, the second measure will correspond quite closely.

The data are also quite clear: Small LDL particles (i.e., "pattern B") are a potent predictor of cardiovascular events. What we lack are the treatment trials that show that reduction of small LDL results in reduced cardiovascular events. The reason for this is that small LDL research is not well-funded, since there is no prescription drug to treat small LDL, only nutritional means. Niacin (as Niaspan) is as close as it comes for a "drug" to reduce small LDL. But diet is far more effective.

Given the questioner's fairly favorable BMI of 25.1 and his history of aggressive heart disease, it is virtually certain that he has what I call "genetic small LDL," i.e., small LDL that occur on a genetically-determined basis (likely due to variants of the cholesteryl-ester transfer protein, or CETP, or of hepatic lipase and others).

Ignoring this man's small LDL will, without a doubt, consign him to a future of more heart attacks, stents, and bypass. Maybe by that time the data supporting the treatment of small LDL will become available.

What increases blood sugar more than wheat?

Take a look at these glycemic indexes (GI):


White bread 69
Whole wheat bread 72
Sucrose 59
Mars bar 68
White rice 72
Brown rice 66


I've made issue in past of whole wheat's high GI--higher than white bread. Roughly in the same glycemic league as bread are shredded wheat cereal, brown rice, and a Mars candy bar.

With few exceptions, wheat products have among the highest GIs compared to the majority of other foods. For instance:


Kidney beans 29
Chick peas 36
Apple 39
Ice cream 36
Snickers Bar 40


Yes, by the crazy logic of glycemic index, Snickers is a low-glycemic index food.

While I do not believe that low GI makes a food good or desirable, since low GI foods still provoke high blood sugars, small LDL particles, trigger glycation, and other abnormal phenomena, they are clearly less obnoxious than the items in the first list.

Take a look at this list:

Cornflakes 80
Rice cakes 80
Rice Krispies 82
Rice pasta, 92
Instant potatoes 83
Tapioca 81



Starches that are dried and/or pulverized, such as cornstarch, potato starch, rice starch, and tapioca starch (cassava root) will increase blood sugar even more than wheat. Foods with these starches have GI's of 80-100.

Cornstarch, potato starch, rice starch, and tapioca starch: Sound familiar? These are the main starches used in "gluten-free" foods. A hint of the high GI behavior of these dried starches is seen in the GI for cornflakes of 80.

So remember: Wheat-free is not the same as gluten-free. Gluten-free identifies junk carbohydrates masquerading as healthy because they don't contain one unhealthy ingredient, i.e. wheat.

China fiction?

Dr. Colin Campbell caused a stir with publication of his 2005 book, The China Study. Dr. Campbell, after extensive animal and epidemiologic research conducted in China over 20 years, concluded that a diet high in animal protein, especially casein, was associated with increased cancer, osteoporosis, and heart disease risk.

Richard Nikoley of Free the Animal and Stephan Guyenet of Whole Health Source have been talking about an analysis of the China Study raw data performed by a young woman named Denise Minger.

Denise's analysis is nothing short of brilliant, absolutely "must" reading for anyone interested in nutrition.

Her comments on the relationship of wheat to heart disease:

Why does Campbell indict animal foods in cardiovascular disease (correlation of +1 for animal protein and -11 for fish protein), yet fail to mention that wheat flour has a correlation of +67 with heart attacks and coronary heart disease, and plant protein correlates at +25 with these conditions?

Speaking of wheat, why doesn’t Campbell also note the astronomical correlations wheat flour has with various diseases: +46 with cervix cancer, +54 with hypertensive heart disease, +47 with stroke, +41 with diseases of the blood and blood-forming organs, and the aforementioned +67 with myocardial infarction and coronary heart disease?

Carbohydrate-LDL double whammy

Carbohydrates in the diet trigger formation of small LDL particles. Because carbohydrates, such as products made from wheat, increase triglycerides and triglyceride-containing lipoproteins (chylomicrons, chylomicron remnants, VLDL, and IDL), LDL particles (NOT LDL cholesterol) become triglyceride-enriched. Triglyceride-enriched LDL particles are "remodeled" by the enzyme, hepatic lipase, into triglyceride-depleted, small LDL particles.

The list of reasons why small LDL particles are more atherogenic, i.e., plaque-causing, is long:

--Small LDL particles, being smaller, more readily penetrate the endothelial barrier of the arterial wall.
--Small LDL particles are more adherent to glycosaminoglycans in the artery wall.
--Small LDL particles are poorly taken up by the liver LDL receptor, but enthusiastically taken up by macrophage receptors of the sort in your artery walls.
--Because of their poor liver clearance, small LDL persists in the bloodstream far longer than large LDL.
--Small LDL particles are more oxidation-prone. Oxidized LDL are more likely to trigger inflammatory phenomena and be taken up by macrophages in the artery wall.

Let me add another reason why small LDL particles are more likely to cause plaque: They are more likely to undergo glycation. (More on glycation here.)

Glycation occurs when glucose (sugar) molecules in the blood or tissue modify proteins, usually irreversibly. Small LDL particles are uniquely glycation-prone. (This is likely due to a conformational change of the apoprotein B in the small LDL particle, exposing lysine residues along apo B that become glycated.)

Here's a great demonstration of this phenomenon by Younis et al:


"LDL3" is the small type. Note that small LDL particles are 4-5 times more glycated than large LDL. That's a big difference.

Once glycated, small LDL is especially resistant to being taken up by the liver. Like annoying in-laws, they hang around and hang around and . . . The longer they hang around, they more opportunity they have to contribute to plaque formation.

So, carbohydrates trigger formation of small LDL particles. Once formed, small LDL particles are glycated when blood sugar increases. While LDL can be glycated even when blood sugars are in the normal range (90 mg/dl or less), glycation goes berserk when blood sugars go higher, such as a blood sugar of 155 mg/dl after a bowl of steel-cut oatmeal.

To lose weight, prick your finger

We know that foods that trigger insulin lead to fat storage. Putting a stop to this process allows you to mobilize fat and lose weight. If you're starting out from scratch, rapid and dramatic weight loss can be experienced, as much as one pound per day.

So how can you stop triggering insulin?

The easiest way is to eliminate, or at least minimize, carbohydrates. My favorite method to restrict carbohydrates is to eliminate wheat and minimize exposure to other carbohydrates, such as oats, cornstarch, and sugars. All these foods, wheat products worst of all, cause blood sugar and insulin to skyrocket.

Another way is to check your blood sugar one hour after completing a meal and keep your after-eating, or "postprandial," blood sugar 100 mg/dl or less. Let's say you are going to eat stone ground oatmeal, for example. Blood sugar prior to eating is, say, 90 mg/dl. One hour after oatmeal it's 168 mg/dl--you know that this is going to trigger insulin and make you fat. Oatmeal should therefore be eliminated.

Keeping blood sugar to 100 mg/dl or less after eating teaches you how to avoid provocation of insulin. A shrinking tummy will follow.

To do this, you will need:

1) A glucose meter--My favorite is the One Touch Ultra Mini ($13.42 at Walmart). It's exceptionally easy to use and requires just a dot of blood. Drawback: Test strips are about $1 each. Accuchek Aviva is another good device. (We've had a lot of problems with Walgreen's brand device.)
2) Test strips--This is the costly part of the proposition. Purchased 25 or 50 at a time, they can cost from $0.50 to $1.00 a piece.
3) Lancets--These are the pins for the fingerstick device that comes with the glucose meter. A box should be just a few dollars.

No prescription is necessary, nor will insurance pay for your costs unless you're diabetic. To conserve test strips, use them only when a new, untested food or food combination is going to be consumed. If you had two scrambled eggs with green peppers, sundried tomatoes, and olive oil yesterday and had a one hour postprandial glucose of 97 mg/dl, no need to check blood sugar again if you are having the same meal again today.

Iodine update

As the iodine experience grows, I've made several unique observations.

Up to several times per day, I see people who are responding in some positive way to iodine supplementation. (See previous Heart Scan Blog posts about iodine: Iodine deficiency is REAL and The healthiest people are the most iodine deficient.)

Among the phenomena I've observed:

1) A free T4 thyroid hormone at the low end of normal, or even in the below normal range, along with a highish TSH (usually >1.5 mIU/L) are the most frequent patterns that signal iodine deficiency. Occasionally, a low free T3 value will also increase, though this is the least frequent development.

2) At a dose of 500 to 1000 mcg iodine per day, it requires anywhere from 3 to 6 months to obtain normalization of thyroid measures.

3) Reversal of small goiters also occurs over about 6 months.

4) Iodine intolerance is uncommon. If it occurs, using a low starting dose, e.g., 100-200 mcg per day, usually works. The dose can be increased gradually over the ensuing months.

5) Perceptible benefits of iodine occur only occasionally. The most common perceptible effects are increased energy and increased warmth, especially of the hands and feet.

6) Some people who have taken thyroid hormones for years will develop reduced need for their medication with iodine supplementation. In other words, their physician was inadvertently treating iodine deficiency with thyroid hormone replacement. Anyone already on any thyroid preparation(s), e.g., Synthroid, levothyroxine, Armour thyroid, Naturethroid, etc., should watch for signs of hyperthyroidism when iodine is added. But having your own thyroid gland make its own thyroid hormones is better and healthier than relying on the prescription agents. Just be sure to monitor your thyroid measures.

7) Iodine toxicity can occur--Two people in my clinic population developed iodine toxicity by taking 6000 mcg iodine per day for 6 or more months. (Both patients did it on their own based on something they read). Iodine toxicity is evidenced by shutting down your thyroid, i.e., marked increase in TSH, e.g., 15 mIU/L.


Most of the people in my clinic obtain their iodine from kelp tablets. Some use potassium iodine (KI) drops. A handful have used the high-potency Iodoral (12.5 mg or 12,500 mcg iodine per tablet); this was also the form that generated the toxic effects in the two females.

All in all, iodine deficiency is actually far more common than I ever suspected. Not everybody is iodine deficient. But a substantial minority of the Midwest population I see certainly are.
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Can I eat quinoa?

. . . or beans, or brown rice, or sweet potatoes? Or how about amaranth, sorghum, oats, and buckwheat? Surely corn on the cob is okay!

These are, of course, non-wheat carbohydrates. They lack several crucial undesirable ingredients found in our old friend, wheat, including no:

Gliadin--The protein that degrades to exorphins, the compound from wheat digestion that exerts mind effects and stimulates appetite to the tune of 400 additional calories (on average) per day.
Gluten--The family of proteins that trigger immune diseases and neurologic impairment.
Amylopectin A--The highly-digestible "complex" carbohydrate that is no better--worse, in fact--than table sugar.

So why not eat these non-wheat grains all you want? If they don't cause appetite stimulation, behavioral outbursts in children with ADHD, addictive consumption of foods, dementia (i.e., gluten encephalopathy), etc., why not just eat them willy nilly?

Because they still increase blood sugar. Conventional wisdom is that these foods trend towards having a lower glycemic index than, say, table sugar, meaning it raises blood glucose less.

That's true . . . but very misleading. Oats, for instance, with a glycemic index of 55 compared to table sugar's 59, still sends blood sugar through the roof. Likewise, quinoa with a glycemic index of 53, will send blood sugar to, say, 150 mg/dl compared to 158 mg/dl for table sugar--yeah, sure, it's better, but it still stinks. And that's in non-diabetics. It's worse in diabetics.

Of course, John Q. Internist will tell you that, provided your blood sugars after eating don't exceed 200 mg/dl, you'll be okay. What he's really saying is "There's no need for diabetes medication, so you're okay. You will still be exposed to the many adverse health consequences of high blood sugar similar to, though less quickly than, a full diabetic, but that's not my problem."

In reality, most people can get away with consuming some of these non-wheat grains . . . provided portion size is limited. Beyond limiting portion size, there are two ways to better manage your carbohydrate sensitivity to ensure that metabolic distortions, such as high blood sugar, glycation, and small LDL particles, are not triggered.

More on that in the future.


Lipoproteins . . . zero!

With the recent refinements in our approach to correction of the lipoprotein abnormalities that lead to coronary plaque and heart disease risk, I have been witnessing more and more people achieve:

Small LDL particles 0 nmol/L
Lipoprotein(a) 0 nmol/L



For instance, Ted, a 58-year old man I saw in the office today started with:

Small LDL 1673 nmol/L
Lipoprotein(a) 219 nmol/L


In other words, both small LDL particles and lipoprotein(a) are being knocked down to zero values.

Incidentally, the combination of lipoprotein(a) with small LDL is among the most atherogenic (atherosclerotic plaque-causing) patterns known. Despite his athletic, slender build and avoidance of unhealthy habits, Ted's heart scan score was 922--very high.

So Ted followed the diet I advocate, i.e., wheat elimination followed by elimination of cornstarch, oats, and sugars; high-dose fish oil (total daily EPA + DHA of 6000 mg/day); vitamin D supplementation sufficient to achieve a 25-hydroxy vitamin D level of 60-70 ng/ml; iodine supplementation; and thyroid normalization which, in Ted's case, required supplementation with the T3 thyroid hormone, liothyronine, at a small dose.

The result:

Small LDL particles 0 nmol/L
Lipoprotein(a) 0 nmol/L


Not everybody, of course, is achieving these incredible--and previously impossible--results. But the numbers are growing. Ted is the third person to achieve zeroes all around, in fact, over the past 10 days.

Heart disease prevention is getting better and more powerful every day. And it ain't all about Lipitor and low-fat.


Chocolate almond biscotti

Biscotti are twice-baked biscuits or cookies that are perfect for dipping into coffee, latté, or espresso. These wheat-free, low-carb biscotti are rich with the taste of chocolate and almonds.

Yield: approximately 15 biscotti



Ingredients:

2 cups almond meal
½ cup chopped walnuts
1/4 cup cocoa powder (undutched)
½ cup dark chocolate chips
Sweetener equivalent to ½ cup sugar (e.g., liquid stevia, Truvia)
½ cup ricotta cheese, room temperature (replace with coconut milk if lactose intolerant)
4 tablespoons butter, melted (replace with coconut oil if lactose intolerant)
2 large eggs
¼ cup milk, unsweetened almond milk, or soy milk
¼ cup almond, peanut, or sunflower seed butter, room temperature

Preheat oven to 350º F.

Mix almond meal, walnuts, sweetener, cocoa powder, and chocolate chips in bowl. Mix in ricotta, butter, eggs, milk, and nut butter and blend by hand thoroughly.

Pour mix onto baking pan lined with parchment paper or greased with coconut oil or other oil. Shape into loaf approximately 1 inch deep and 3½ to 4 inches in width. Place in oven and bake for 40 minutes.

Remove loaf and allow to cool 15 minutes. Slice into approximately ¾-inch widths and lay each biscotto on its side on baking pan. Put back in oven for 10 minutes.

Remove pan and flip biscotti over. Place back in oven and bake an additional 5 minutes. Remove and cool.

Optional: For a little dark chocolate "icing":
Melt 3-4 oz semisweet or dark chocolate in microwave (in 15 second increments until melted) or in metal bowl placed in heated water. Stir in 1-2 teaspoons butter.
Dip each biscotti into melted chocolate mix or drizzle chocolate mixture over top of each biscotto.

Sun green tea

Here's a great way to enjoy the health benefits of green tea during the summer: sun green tea.


I dropped two green tea bags into approximately one-half gallon of cold water in a clear glass jar. I placed the jar in the sun (with top on) for four hours, then brought it into the kitchen. I served it as iced tea with a slice of lemon and mint leaf.

The sun green tea was a smoother than standard green tea brewed with hot water. Ordinarily, if you brew hot green tea for more than 3-5 minutes, it becomes more bitter or tannic. This sun green tea, despite steeping for four hours, was not the least bit bitter or tannic.

The green tea lasted well for about 48 hours, more than enough to enjoy several glasses per day.

Calling all super-duper weight losers!






Have you lost at least 1/2 your weight, e.g., 300 lbs down to 150 lbs? If you have, I have a major national magazine editor looking to talk to you.

If you have gone wheat-free and/or followed the dietary advice offered here in The Heart Scan Blog or through the Track Your Plaque program and would be willing to share your story, please let me know by commenting below. While losing half your body weight is not necessarily a requirement for health, it makes an incredibly inspiring story for others.

If we use your story, I will set aside a copy of my soon-to-be-released book, Wheat Belly.

Lp(a): Be patient with fish oil

High-dose omega-3 fatty acids from fish oil has become the number one strategy for reduction of lipoprotein(a), Lp(a), in the Track Your Plaque program for gaining control over coronary plaque and heart disease risk.

The original observations made in Tanzanian Bantus in the Lugalawa Study by Marcovina et al first suggested that higher dietary exposure to fish and perhaps omega-3 fatty acids from fish were associated with 40% lower levels of Lp(a). Interestingly, higher omega-3 exposure was also associated with having the longer apo(a) "tails" on Lp(a) molecules, a characteristic associated with more benign, less aggressive plaque-causing behavior.

Of course, the 600+ fish- consuming Bantus in the study consumed fish over a lifetime, from infancy on up through adulthood. So what is the time course of response if us non-Bantus take higher doses of fish oil to reduce Lp(a)?

We have been applying this approach in the Track Your Plaque program and in my office practice for the past few years. To my surprise, the majority of people taking 6000 mg per day of omega-3 fatty acids, EPA and DHA, will drop Lp(a) after one year.  Some have required two years.  Therefore checking Lp(a) after, say, 3 or 6 months, is nearly useless. (An early response does, however, appear to predict a very vigorous 1-2 year response.)

I'm sure that there is an insightful lesson to be learned from the incredibly slow response, but I don't currently know what it is.  But this strategy has become so powerful, despite its slow nature, that it has allowed many people to back down on niacin.

Baby your pancreas

There it is, sitting quietly tucked under your diaphragm, nestled beneath layers of stomach and intestines, doing its job of monitoring blood sugar, producing insulin, and secreting the digestive enzymes that allow you to convert a fried egg, tomato, or dill pickle into the components that compose you.

But, if you've lived the life of most Americans, your pancreas has had a hard life. Starting as a child, it was forced into the equivalent of hard labor by your eating carbohydrate-rich foods like Lucky Charms, Cocoa Puffs, Hoho's, Ding Dongs, Scooter Pies, and macaroni and cheese. Into adolescent years and college, it was whipped into subservient labor with pizza, beer, pretzels, and ramen noodles. As an adult, the USDA, Surgeon General's office and other assorted purveyors of nutritional advice urged us to cut our fat, cholesterol, and eat more "healthy whole grains"; you complied, exposing your overworked pancreas to keep up its relentless work pace, spewing out insulin to accommodate the endless flow of carbohydrate-rich foods.

So here we are, middle aged or so, with pancreases that are beaten, worn, hobbling around with a walker, heaving and gasping due to having lost 50% or more of its insulin-producing beta cells. If continued to be forced to work overtime, it will fail, breathing its last breath as you and your doctor come to its rescue with metformin, Actos, Januvia, shots of Byetta, and eventually insulin, all aimed at corralling the blood sugar that your failed pancreas was meant to contain.

What if you don't want to rescue your flagging pancreas with drugs? What if you want to salvage your poor, wrinkled, exhausted pancreas, eaking out whatever is left out of the few beta cells you have left?

Well, then, baby your pancreas. If this were a car with 90,000 miles on it, but you want it to last 100,000, then change the oil frequently, keep it tuned, and otherwise baby your car, not subjecting it to extremes and neglect to accelerate its demise. Same with your pancreas: Allow it to rest, not subjecting it to the extremes of insulin production required by carbohydrate consumption. Don't expose it to foods like wheat flour, cornstarch, oats, rice starch, potatoes, and sucrose that demand overtime and hard labor out of your poor pancreas. Go after the foods that allow your pancreas to sleep through a meal like eggs, spinach, cucumbers, olive oil, and walnuts. Give your pancreas a nice back massage and steer clear of "healthy whole grains," the nutritional equivalent of a 26-mile marathon. Pay your pancreas a compliment or two and allow it to have occasional vacations with a brief fast.

Bread equals sugar

Bread, gluten-free or gluten-containing, in terms of carbohydrate content, is equivalent to sugar.

Two slices of store-bought whole grain bread, such as the gluten-free bread I discussed in my last post, equals 5- 6 teaspoons of table sugar:








 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some breads can contain up to twice this quantity, i.e., 10-12 teaspoons equivalent readily-digestible carbohydrate.

Gluten-free carbohydrate mania

Here's a typical gluten-free product, a whole grain bread mix. "Whole grain," of course, suggests high-fiber, high nutrient composition, and health.



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's it made of? Here's the ingredient list:
Cornstarch, Tapioca Starch, Whole Grain Sorghum Flour, Whole Grain Teff Flour, Whole Grain Amaranth Flour, Soy Fiber, Xanthan Gum, Soy Protein, Natural Cocoa and Ascorbic Acid

In other words, carbohydrate, carbohydrate, carbohydrate, carbohydrate and some other stuff. It means that a sandwich with two slices of bread provides around 42 grams net carbohydrates, enough to send your blood sugar skyward, not to mention trigger visceral fat formation, glycation, small LDL particles and triglycerides.

Take a look at the ingredients and nutrition facts on the label of any number of gluten-free products and you will see the same thing. Many also have proud low-fat claims.

This is how far wrong the gluten-free world has drifted: Trade the lack of gluten for a host of unhealthy effects.

Gluten-free is going DOWN

The majority of gluten-free foods are junk foods.

People with celiac disease experience intestinal destruction and a multitude of other inflammatory conditions due to an immune response gone haywire. The disease  is debilitating and can be fatal unless all gliadin/gluten sources are eliminated, such as wheat, barley, and rye.

A gluten-free food industry to provide foods minus gliadin/gluten has emerged, now large enough to become an important economic force. Even some Big Food companies are getting into the act, like Kraft, that now lists foods they consider gluten-free.

So we have gluten-free breads, cupcakes, scones, pretzels, breakfast cereals, crackers, bagels, muffins, pancake mixes and on and on. All are made with ingredients like brown rice flour, cornstarch, tapioca starch, and potato starch. Occasionally, they are made with amaranth, teff, or quinoa, other less popular, but gluten-free, grains.

Problem: These gluten-free ingredients, while lacking gliadin and gluten, make you fat and diabetic. They increase visceral fat, cause blood sugar to skyrocket higher than nearly all other foods (even higher than wheat, which is already pretty bad), trigger formation of small LDL and triglycerides, and are responsible for exaggerated postprandial (after-eating) lipoprotein distortions. They cause heart disease, cataracts, arthritis, and a wide range of other conditions, all driven by the extreme levels of glycation they generate.

Eliminating all things wheat from the diet is one of the most powerful health strategies I have ever witnessed. But replacing lost wheat with manufactured gluten-free foods is little better than replacing your poppyseed muffin with a bowl of jelly beans.

Whenever we've relied on the food industry to supply a solution, they've managed to bungle it. Saturated fat was replaced with hydrogenated fat and polyunsaturates; sucrose replaced with high-fructose corn syrup. Now, they are replacing wheat gluten-containing foods with junk carbohydrates.

For this reason, I am bringing out a line of recipes and foods that will be wheat gliadin/gluten-free, do NOT contain the junk carbohydrates that gluten-free foods are made of, and are genuinely healthy. They are tasty, to boot.

The gluten-free industry needs to smarten up. Having a following that is free of cramps and diarrhea but are obese, diabetic, and hobbling on arthritic knees and hips is good for nobody.
Why doesn't your doctor try to CURE diabetes?

Why doesn't your doctor try to CURE diabetes?

Imagine you have breast cancer. You go to your doctor and she says, "As your pain worsens, we'll help you with pain medication. We'll fit you with a special bra to accommodate the tumor as it grows. That's all we're going to do."

"What?" you ask. "You mean just deal with the disease and its complications, but you're not going to help me get rid of it . . . cure it?"

It would be incredibly shocking to receive such advice. Then why is that the sort of advice given when you are diagnosed with diabetes?

Say you go to the doctor. Lab values show a fasting blood sugar of 156 mg/dl, HbA1c (a reflection of your previous 60 days average glucose) of 7.1%. Both values show clear-cut diabetes.

Your doctor advises you to 1) start the drug metformin, then 2) talk to the diabetic teaching nurse or dietitian about an American Diabetes Association (ADA) diet.

The ADA diet prescribed encourages you to increase carbohydrates and cut fats at each meal and maintain a consistent intake so that you don't experience hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) episodes. You follow the diet, which causes you to gain 10-15 lbs per year, increasing your "need" for diabetes medication. You doctor adds Actos, then Januvia, then injections of Byetta.

Three years and 34 lbs later, you are not responding well to the drug combination with blood sugars rarely staying below 200 mg/dl. You've developed protein in your urine ("proteinuria"), lost 30% of your kidney function, and you are starting to lose sensation in your feet. So the doctor replaces some of your medication with several insulin injections per day.

This formula is followed millions of times per year in the U.S. So where along the way did your doctor mention anything about a "cure"?

Adult diabetes is the one chronic disease that nobody cares to cure. Treat it, maintain control over blood sugars, but cure it? Most physicians say it's impossible.

The tragedy is that diabetes is a curable condition. I've seen it happen many times. Physicians dedicated to curing diabetes like low-carb expert, Dr. Mary Vernon, have cured it countless times. Dr. Eric Westman and colleagues have been building the case for the carbohydrate-restricted cure for diabetes with studies such as this. In this last study, of the 8 participants on insulin + medications at the start of the study, 5 no longer required medications at the close of the study--they were essentially non-diabetic.

I tell patients that diabetes, in fact, is a disease you choose to have or not to have--provided you are provided the right diet and tools. Sadly, rarely are diabetics told about the right diet and tools.

That's why Cadbury Schweppes has been a major contributor to the American Diabetes Association, as are other processed food manufacturers and the drug industry, all who stand to profit from maintaining the status quo.

The cure? Eliminate or at least dramatically reduce carbohydrates, the foods that increase blood sugar.

Note: If you have diabetes and you are taking any prescription agents, such as glyburide, glipizide, insulin, and some others, you will need to discuss how to manage your medications if you reduce carbohydrates. The problem is finding a doctor or other resource to help you do this.

Comments (88) -

  • Matt Stone

    7/21/2010 2:09:21 PM |

    Nobody cares to cure diabetes?  That's certainly not true of guys like Joel Fuhrman who have shown the ability to get over 60% of patients off of insulin and all meds within the first month of treatment.  

    That's funny that you call carb restriction a cure though.  

    I got a flat tire the other day and took it to Big O Tires and the guy said, "hey, I've got an amazing new cure for flat tires that won't cost you a single penny!"

    "Wow, do tell!"  

    "Yeah, just park it in your garage, and don't drive it anymore!"

  • KitingRules

    7/21/2010 2:44:16 PM |

    @Matt Stone - exactly.  I find it odd that Dr. Davis is claiming nobody is interested in curing diabetes other than low carb proponents.

    Dr. John McDougall, Dr. Fuhrman, as well as the raw food folks like Doug Graham all have helped countless diabetics eliminate the need for insulin, or at least lower it in the most severe cases.  They have done this for years.  

    And they do so with diets that allow for plenty of whole food carbohydrates, with naturally occurring, but low, amounts of fat.

    If I had diabetes, I'd much rather eat ad libitum of starches and fruits, rather than make myself miserable on calorie restricted low-carb fare.

  • PeterVermont

    7/21/2010 3:10:00 PM |

    I'm with Dr. Davis. Saying 'nobody' is hyperbole but it does seem to be the case that most physicians do not try to cure diabetes and in fact will dispute that it is possible.

    Low carbohydrate simply makes sense since type 2 diabetes is a sugar metabolism disorder (or a case of sugar poisoning from an evolutionary point of view). It makes sense to reduce the poison.

  • KitingRules

    7/21/2010 3:34:07 PM |

    Sugar isn't poison.  Our cells run on glucose.

    "from an evolutionary point of view" = merely making up a story to fit the teller's preconceptions

    Peruvians eating potatoes are hardly being poisoned.  Asians eating white rice are hardly being poisoned.

    Dr. Fuhrman hardly is poisoning his patients on whole plant foods.


    Dr. Fuhrman Cures Diabetes - But Drug Companies Object
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46_GInjBeQU

    Joel Fuhrman MD has cured hundreds of people of diabetes using diet and lifestyle. The American Diabetic Association wanted him to write about his work -- but then objected because their sponsor, Eli Lilly drug company, might feel threatened by an MD promoting a cure which could destroy the market for their diabetes medications. This is an excerpt from Dr. Furhman's presentation at the Healthy Lifestyle Expo 2007.

  • Steve Cooksey

    7/21/2010 3:39:47 PM |

    My favorite analogy to so called "DIABETES TREATMENT" used to be... "does Alcoholic's Anonymous tell alcoholics to only drink 6-11 beers a day??"

    Then why does American Diabetes Ass. tell diabetics to eat 6-11 servings of carbs per day????

    BUT NOW.... this analogy may be my favorite... Smile)

    Thanks Dr. Davis!

  • Anonymous

    7/21/2010 3:47:41 PM |

    For some reason the opening analogy really freaked me out. I'm already paranoid and freaked out that I must be dying from something that I don't know of. Every bit of me wants to trust the medical establishment but I know they are more concerned with their legal liability and lawsuits than seeing me get healthy. You gotta take care of yourself first and the average doctors are no exception.

    Go easy with the analogies there, Dr. Davis.

    -- Boris

  • Anonymous

    7/21/2010 4:24:56 PM |

    Fuhrman, McDougall, and others often point to studies comparing their diets with the ADA diet.  The results show weight loss and improvements over the ADA diet, BUT the criteria being used for acceptable blood glucose levels are still too high.

    Check out "Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution: The Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars"  by Richard K. Bernstein.  My Mom (T2) has been on the plan for just about 2 years now.  She's lost 60 lbs., HbA1C dropped from 6.8 to 5.3, total cholesterol is down, LDL is down, triglycerides are down, and complications such as retinopathy and peripheral neuropathy have stabilized or improved.

  • LeonRover

    7/21/2010 4:35:09 PM |

    If one cares to buy Matt Stone's E-book titled Die-uh-beat-eeez, he suggests 5 approaches to curing Type 2 Diabetes, including Fuhrman's.

    I draw your attention to his last & least favoured approach - Low Carb - and what the author Ron Stone writes:

    ".. assume that a person tries the other strategies laid out in this book .. and still can't seem make progress ...  in some circumstances a low carb diet really is the most prudent diet."

    Verba ipsa loquitur.

  • Anonymous

    7/21/2010 4:38:23 PM |

    Hey! Give Dr. Davis a break! When he says nobody is interested in curing diabetes, he means that the vast majority of physicians (but not ALL of them) will recommend the ADA diet to their patients instead of something else (i.e. low carb, whole foods, etc.).

    KitingRules said, “Sugar isn't poison. Our cells run on glucose.”.

    Incorrect.

    (Table) sugar isn't glucose...it's a disaccharide of half glucose and half fructose. Fructose in large quantities can be disastrous for a persons health....high triglycerides, excess uric acid, increased blood pressure, increased production of advanced glycation end products (AGEs), small LDL, more abdominal fat....the list goes on and on..

    As for Asians and rice, go to India and you'll see that many of their citizens suffer from diabetes too. Eating rice (or most any carbs) when you are on a calorie deficit isn't as damaging as eating carbs as part of a diet in which a person eats more calories then their body needs. In this country it's very easy to eat excess calories thought the course of a day. Food is just too abundant, cheap, tempting and calorie dense compared to other countries.

    Lastly, it would be helpful if people wouldn't use the comments section of this blog to promote their own sites, blogs, books, etc. but I know this is asking too much...

  • Anonymous

    7/21/2010 4:56:59 PM |

    Hey, Matt Stone, you keep using that photo from when you were low-carbing...when are you going to use a photo that shows how fat you are now?

  • Anonymous

    7/21/2010 5:06:32 PM |

    My father and grandfather were Diabetics. They slowly died of its complications.
    I work very hard not to be.
    They weren't as informed as we here are on how to deal with it or even reverse it.
    And I'm not sure they would've drastically altered their lifestyles.
    Other than asking for a "Bigger Pill".

    From what I saw, the average Endocrinologist is going with the flow of the ADA and Drug Co's.
    Granted, Diabetics are stubborn about lifestyle change.
    So, I guess that Doctors - in addition to all the effort on their parts - are just burnt out from many Diabetics not even looking to change.
    If the thought of Dialysis isn't enough to eat less bread... what is ?

    That aside -- if too much Insulin in the body is dangerous, isn't the injecting of massive amounts of it, just as dangerous ?

  • ShottleBop

    7/21/2010 5:06:40 PM |

    @ KitingRules (re: "If I had diabetes, I'd much rather eat ad libitum of starches and fruits, rather than make myself miserable on calorie restricted low-carb fare.")

    If you had diabetes and were working to control your blood sugars through diet, you might very well see what a quick, and large, effect fast-acting carbs--sugar, grains, starches--can have on your blood sugar levels, and discover that it is entirely possible to eat a low-carb diet that is ad libitum, rather than calorie-restricted, and that is very enjoyable, to boot.  In February 2008, my A1c was 6.5.  I was given a blood glucose meter and told to eat to it (check out Jenny Ruhl's "Blood Sugar 101", regarding "How to Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control").  I started restricting carbs, and lost 65 pounds in the next 9 months. My A1c was down to 5.5 by the 9-month mark, and has been at 5.3-5.4 since.

  • PeterVermont

    7/21/2010 5:13:27 PM |

    @Kiting Rules: your comment was too abrupt in tone to be considered polite discourse.

    Nearly anything we ingest can be a poison if taken to excess. While Kiting Rules criticizes: '"from an evolutionary point of view" = merely making up a story to fit the teller's preconceptions' I doubt there is any 'story' of hominid history that would include eating refined carbohydrates in anywhere close to the quantities the average American does... so sugar can in fact be considered a poison in modern quantities.

  • DogwoodTree05

    7/21/2010 5:20:39 PM |

    "Asians eating white rice are hardly being poisoned."

    Ah. the Asian rice paradox.  Asians aren't nearly as obese as Americans, but they do have high rates of type II diabetes. For example, the age-adjusted prevalance for Korean adults is 7.6%, compared to 8.2% for US adults (http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/29/2/226.full).   The gap is rather small considering how much heavier Americans are and how much more processed food is consumed.

  • Peter

    7/21/2010 5:23:23 PM |

    The differences are real, but Drs Davis, Fuhrman, and McDougall could come up with a very long list of processed foods none of them would go near.  

    If someone has cured their diabetes on Fuhrman or Mcdougall's diet there's not much reason to eliminate grains a la Davis, but if they haven't, eliminating grains might be a worthwhile experiment.

  • Martin Levac

    7/21/2010 5:41:34 PM |

    Matt Stone, a cure means a method to remove a disease permanently. Since diabetes is merely chronic carbohydrate poisoning, removing carbs from the diet permanently is a cure.

    The correct analogy with the flat tire is that the nail that caused the flat tire is the carbs that caused diabetes. In other words, it's not all food that causes diabetes but only the carbs that do that. And avoiding driving the car on any road is like avoiding to eat all food. With humans, avoiding to eat all food would kill us in short order. It's not a cure if it kills us.

    But you gotta eat something. Yes, and it might as well be food. But carbs is food. Not if it makes you sick it isn't.

  • Martin Levac

    7/21/2010 5:47:11 PM |

    Correction, I meant to say "since diabetes is merely a symptom of chronic carbohydrate poisoning".

  • Helena

    7/21/2010 6:46:30 PM |

    Diabetes, just like many other health conditions and symptoms are a cash cow - why on earth should we cure it!??!

    One crazy example is a man named Jim Mann; he represents the Department of Human Nutrition and Medicine and the Edgar National Centre for Diabetes Research, University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand and have written in many publications about how to eat and live if you have diabetes (and his suggestions are along the line with ADA)... But he is also an advisor for 'Sugar Research Advisory Board' (SRAS). And after looking through their material SRAS is clearly a marketing device for SUGAR! SRAS is trying with many colorful Fact sheets to make sugar look healthy, good, and something every human need for survival… He even says things like "...there is insufficient evidence to recommend that sugar intake to be restricted..." in one publication called "Free sugars and human health: Sufficient evidence for action?"

    So, the world cares about diabetes alright... just not in the right way.

  • vivian

    7/21/2010 8:03:11 PM |

    KitingRules said "If I had diabetes, I'd much rather eat ad libitum of starches and fruits, rather than make myself miserable on calorie restricted low-carb fare."

    I do have T2 diabetes and I developed it after 12 years as a low-fat veg eating ad libitum of starches and fruits.  I received the same medical and 'nutritional' advice as most others newly-diagnosed T2s (the type that Dr. Davis is describing).  I chose the low-carb paleo approach and maintain an A1c of approx 4.9, along with a 75 pound weight loss, and across the board improved health markers.

    I now eat ad libitum of whole unprocessed foods, restricting (not eliminating) only carbs.  It's not calorie restricted and has never been miserable.

  • Dr. William Davis

    7/22/2010 12:06:55 AM |

    Hi, Steve--

    I love your alcoholics analogy!

    Surely one for the road.

  • Dr. William Davis

    7/22/2010 12:11:01 AM |

    If we were to compare, line by line, the diets of Dr. Joel Fuhrmann, Dr. John McDougall, and the sort of low-carb diets advocated by Drs. Mary Vernon and Dr. Eric Westman, I believe we would see more congruity than difference.

    Throw in the issue of Advanced Glycation End-products and I believe that introduces yet another twist to diet that 1) tempers enthusiasm for the notion of unlimited animal products cooked at high temperature, and 2) limits our carbohydrates.

    One issue I am vehement about: Grains are among the most destructive ingredients in the human diet. Wheat stands apart. What other food has its very own mortality rate?

  • perots

    7/22/2010 12:47:22 AM |

    Amen I think far too many in the medical field do exactly as Dr Davis has suggested.I spend hours a week trying to educate people who are literally falling apart because of their high glycemic loads and accompanying inflamation.They are very confused by the dueling nutrition camps. I have been a physician for 27 years, and I think the high glycemic loads and high omega6 intake is taking a horrible toll.It is human nature to think if a little is good then a more is better-so we have the extreme low fat and low carb camps.I think eliminating carbohydrates that produces a high sugar  load in the body is necessary-not all carbs.A thoughtful approach to fats that are less inflamatory and atherogenic is essential.That sadly is not what usually happens.Thank you Dr D

  • Lori Miller

    7/22/2010 2:00:28 AM |

    My mother, who is diabetic, has really been helped by a low-carb approach. She's losing weight, her blood sugar levels have decreased, and she no longer goes into carb-induced stupors. Unfortunately, I think this has come too late for her to ever get back to normal.

    I think Mr. Stone must have been jilted by a low-carber.

  • Baffled

    7/22/2010 3:03:03 AM |

    Correct me if I am wrong but if diabetes is a result of impaired pancreas function, i.e beta cells not producing adequate insulin due to their ceasing to function, how can this condition be "cured". One could probably learn to live with it as people do with say one lung or other organ deficiency, but that isn't what I would think as a cure, where normal function is returned. The only cure to me would be where the beta cells regenerate (isn't that what the stem cell research in this area is aiming to do)

    Can someone please clarify my confusion on what a cure would mean ? Thanks.

  • antidrugrep

    7/22/2010 3:34:12 AM |

    Enough good comments here to temper the patent nonsense, but as a frustrated "conventional" physician, I can't help but chime in.

    It infuriates me that so much money (some of it even taxpayers' money) is being spent on diabetes "research" when the salient physiological/biochemical pathways are well-known, and have been for years. Let me adopt a patronizing, condescending tone for a moment and walk the Baffled and otherwise confused thru it bit by bit:

    Type II diabetes is a result of insulin resistance,  which means the cells are less receptive to insulin prompting an influx of glucose(sugar). Insulin resistance may occur for a few different reasons, but one - I would say the most IMPORTANT one - is repeated and sustained excess insulin secretion. And the most important cause of this excess insulin? Excess blood sugar. The source of this excess blood sugar? Dietary sugar and starch. Sure, there's a lot of blather about arginine and other insulin secretogogues. But no other signal makes it happen like blood sugar.

    Simple enough?

    Here's the good news (for the umpteenth time, sorry everyone who's already said it clearly): the relatively small amounts of sugar and starch in fresh vegetables and WATERY fruits are mitigated by the relatively large amounts of fiber they contain. It slows it down, provides built-in damage control. Just don't eat the poisonous stuff with almost no fiber left to slow it down (grain products, etc). Get off the sugar/starch roller coaster, and you likely won't suffer abnormal hunger prodding you to overconsume daily, leading to your early death.

    Okay, I've got that off my chest. Now I'll leave the windmills alone and go back to saving patients one at a time. Keep up the good work, Dr Davis and company!

  • Hans Keer

    7/22/2010 6:33:18 AM |

    As Dr. Bernstein often explains it: Doctors can get sued when a patient dies from the consequences of hypoglycemia and therefore prefer to keep you eating carbs and "control" your hyperglycemia with medication. Here it shows the DMT2-pathway: http://bit.ly/d4oVSz Draw your own conclusions.

  • JTownsend

    7/22/2010 9:00:09 AM |

    Inspired by the good doctor I have essentially eliminated all grains from my diet, particularily wheat, with positive results. But I must admit that I do still enjoy a cold beer and am loath to forsake this one precious pleasure. Where does beer fit into this picture  I wonder?  Is it a grain product like bread or cereal, and accordingly should be eliminated for cardiac health?

  • moblogs

    7/22/2010 9:05:47 AM |

    I'm a little confused...If you have type 1 diabetes where your pancreas can't produce insulin, surely you can only cure that by having a pancreas transplant (not always successful) and treatment (possibly vitamin D) to prevent autoimmune attacks on the new pancreatic cells? Perhaps Type 2 is curable, but I don't know too much about either.

  • John R

    7/22/2010 11:21:21 AM |

    JTownsend: Most beers contain gluten. There are a few that don't, including some Belgian ales that are pretty good -- Green's is the brand to try. For something more like a session beer, in the US, look for Bard's, New Grist, or Redbridge (an Anheuser-Busch product).

  • Dr. William Davis

    7/22/2010 12:33:36 PM |

    Antidrug--

    Thanks for the great explanation!

    Baffled--The sort of diabetes you describe only applies to 1) certain genetic types of the sort Jenny Ruhl talks about, i.e., LADA, and 2) when you are irretrievably diabetic after many years of carbohydrate overconsumption and being overweight.

  • renegadediabetic

    7/22/2010 1:43:09 PM |

    I just use my glucose meter to see how rice, potatoes, etc., affect my blood sugar and I get a clear message that I need to avoid them.

    As for vegan diets, studies piting vegan diets against the ADA diet show that the vegan diets are "better" than the ADA diet.  However, the vegan diet resulted in average A1C of 7.1%.  Even the ADA defines "tight control" as an A1C < 7%.  While vegan diets may outperform the ADA diet, they still can't achieve even the ADA's anemic defininition of "tight control."  My A1C has consistently been below 6% wit low carb.  Plus, I like the tasty and satisfying food I eat on low carb.  It's much more satisfying than the low fat, high carb diet I used to eat while trying to combat morbid obesity.  I don't feel deprived at all.

    Big pharma has a big interest in keeping people "sick" or creating new condition to make people think they are "sick."  There is no cure for type 1 diabetes and I'm not sure that you can really "cure" type 2 either.  Low carb controls it to near normal blood sugar levels, but you can never go back to your previous way of eating and expect good blood sugar levels.

  • Jim

    7/22/2010 1:53:36 PM |

    @JTownsend and JohnR:

    I enjoy a brew or two also, and have been concerned about "gluten", gliadins, etc. After much searching, I have learned that if the beer is brewed from barley, the offending proteins, called "hordeins" in barley, are reduced in amount, broken into peptides rather than complete hordeins, and are barely measurable using European standards of "gluten free". The US standard is based on NO wheat/barley/rye/etc raw material input, rather than actual amount of the offending protein in the final product; so, under current regs, no barley product could qualify as gluten/gliadin/hordein free irrespective of how minute the quantity is.

    For a pretty complete discussion please see more at http://tinyurl.com/23929af

  • Gretchen

    7/22/2010 2:59:11 PM |

    I think it's dangerous to talk about "curing" diabetes. A cure would mean that you could eat a lot of sugar and starch and your blood sugar wouldn't go up, as a healthy young child can do.

    Getting people off insulin and all oral meds isn't a cure. Too many sellers of supplements say their expensive supplements will cure diabetes. When you read the details, you see the people got off meds, or their fastings were reduced from 200 to 140, still much too high. No cure!

    You can control your diabetes so your blood sugar levels are in normal ranges, but you're still not cured.

    And even a strict low-carb diet won't control diabetes in type 1 or in type 2 that was advanced when the person was diagnosed. I'm a type 2 on a LC diet, I haven't eaten wheat for more than 10 years, and even reaonable amounts of protein (less than 4 oz per serving) make my blood sugar go up.

    I find it offensive when people say my diabetes would be cured if I took some supplement or followed some particular diet.

    As for why most doctors don't try to cure your diabetes, it's because most doctors aren't in the business of doing research, and except for pancreas transplants, which are a last resort because the anti-rejection drugs are worse than the diabetes treatments, there is not yet a cure.

    Many, many people are working on it. But I think promising people a cure when there is not yet a cure is cruel.

    In the meantime, LC diets help many people get excellent control. But they're not cured.

    There will be a cure some day. But it's not here yet.

  • Roxanne Sukol MD

    7/22/2010 3:37:05 PM |

    I am so pleased to see your post on preventing diabetes.  Indeed, why not?  Walking the walk and talking the talk at "Your Health is on Your Plate," I am reversing diabetes and obesity by teaching folks how to tell the difference between real food and fabricated calories.  Roxanne Sukol MD  http://yourhealthisonyourplate.com

  • DrStrange

    7/22/2010 3:49:25 PM |

    "I think it's dangerous to talk about "curing" diabetes. A cure would mean that you could eat a lot of sugar and starch and your blood sugar wouldn't go up, as a healthy young child can do."

    Yes, healthy children can seemingly get away with this ie no big sugar spike.  It is also how they later become diabetic.  So in reality, if you include duration over time when looking at health, a healthy person just can not eat large amounts of refined starches and simple sugars.

  • DrStrange

    7/22/2010 3:56:47 PM |

    It is not just "the carbs" rather a bit more complex.  Insulin resistance is also caused by excess dietary calories, excess dietary fat, excess body weight, excess body fat (even if "normal" weight) and inactivity and, (see below) it seems overconsumption of animal protein esp red meat.  This last could ultimately be from beta cell damage from the iron overload.

    Pooled data from 12 different studies: High meat intake increases diabetes risk

    POSTED ON JULY 22, 2010 BY DEANA FERRERI, PH.D.

    http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/diabetes-pooled-data-from-12-different-studies-high-meat-intake-increases-diabetes-risk.html

  • stop smoking help

    7/22/2010 4:21:21 PM |

    I believe people are very suspicious of doctors who say they have cures for illnesses that are not talked about in the mainstream. Even at my hospital, nobody ever talks about curing diabetes. Now granted our patients aren't newbies to the disease and they already have neuropathies, etc.

    But skepticism is something we Americans are proud of and hang our hats on. Nobody wants to be taken for a ride. So unless physicians can get blinded, randomized, controlled studies with a large "n" published in respectable jounals (not yoga weekly), we'll remain cautious about blog postings like this one.

    But, I like that it's getting talked about, at least in a blog. Perhaps, enough will get published that funding will come available for some really nice, multi-center studies.

  • Gretchen

    7/22/2010 6:45:57 PM |

    Re the red meat study:

    Note that the cited study concludes, "However, the possibility that residual confounding could explain this association cannot be excluded."

    This study is of association, not cause. Quite often, people who eat a lot of red meat also eat a lot of french fries and drink a lot of sodas. Many studies lump red meat together with processed meats.

    Also, this is a meta-analysis and they are notorious. Unfortunately, Diabetologia charges a lot for full text, so one can't do a critical reading.

  • Gretchen

    7/22/2010 6:48:28 PM |

    "Insulin resistance is also caused by . . ." There's also a genetic component, some people estimate about 50%. Some ethnic groups have more insulin resistance to start with.

  • JTownsend

    7/22/2010 6:55:25 PM |

    Thanks for the feedback fellas (JohnR & Jim) and your heads up on gluten in beer. Very interesting. Im not clear on the connection between gluten and cardiac health though, particularly as it relates to such things as the triggering formation of small LDL particles (which this blog views as a potent predictor of cardiovascular events). The other thing I wonder about is beers possibly harmful effect on blood glucose levels and glycation, given the mitigating effects of alcohol on liver function (ie liver production of glucose interrupted by alcohol). I cant find info that puts this all together in layman terms re cardiac health aside from the brewery sponsored media noise.

  • JTownsend

    7/22/2010 6:55:53 PM |

    Thanks for the feedback fellas (JohnR & Jim) and your heads up on gluten in beer. Very interesting. Im not clear on the connection between gluten and cardiac health though, particularly as it relates to such things as the triggering formation of small LDL particles (which this blog views as a potent predictor of cardiovascular events). The other thing I wonder about is beers possibly harmful effect on blood glucose levels and glycation, given the mitigating effects of alcohol on liver function (ie liver production of glucose interrupted by alcohol). I cant find info that puts this all together in layman terms re cardiac health aside from the brewery sponsored media noise.

  • Gretchen

    7/22/2010 6:56:12 PM |

    "Usually, when we think about foods that increase diabetes risk, we think of white flour-based processed foods, sugary sodas, and desserts, since these foods are known to produce dangerous increases in blood glucose. Also, many diabetics are under the impression that that they should avoid carbohydrate-containing foods, and eat higher levels of protein to keep their blood glucose levels in check."

    I find these generalizations fascinating. It wasn't too long ago that everyone was blaming diabetes on fat. Even today, many people with diabetes are told to follow the low-fat "ADA diet," which tells patients to "make starch the star."

    If the "we" and "many diabetics" cited above are in the majority, then the country has done a complete turnaround.

  • Anonymous

    7/22/2010 7:27:40 PM |

    "The ADA diet prescribed encourages you to increase carbohydrates" HUH? My husband and I went through diabetes education courses at a local hospital when he was diagnosed where we learned to reduce carbs to control diabetes. Would be interested to know what source Dr. Davis is quoting.

  • billye

    7/22/2010 8:50:52 PM |

    Hi DR. Davis,

    As usual you have hit it out of the park.  Most doctors and most people believe that in order for one to say that they have cured diabetes type2 one should be able to consume all the high carbohydrate,sugar,fruit, starch, and HFCS one desires.  This is the same as saying that in order to consider yourself cured of arsenic poisoning one should be able to consume all the arsenic one wishes.  On it's face this is a ridiculous statement.  Eat poison and you will be poisoned.  I followed Dr. John McDougall's plan for many years and all I did was become very fat and ill.  I now follow an Evolutionary Lifestyle  promoted by Dr. Kenneth Tourgeman nephrologist.  His practice is dedicated to evolutionary medicine and he cured my diabetes type 2 along with reversing other diseases of the metabolic syndrome.  My last four HbA1c levels are as follows: 4.5, 4.7, 5.0, and 4.9.  Dr. Tourgeman practices evolutionary medicine, and I follow an evolutionary health supporting lifestyle.  Because of this I have been able to take and keep off 50 pounds over the 18 months without any hunger what so ever.  If low fat and high carb worked for most of us, then why is obesity the biggest problem for the majority of Americans?  It is time for the medical profession to change.  Doctors should be paid a standard yearly stipend and those who show cures and reversals of illness as far as the diseases of the metabolic syndrome are concerned should receive bonuses relative to cure and reversal rate.  If this would become the system you would see a big difference in the health of Americans.

    Billy E
    Editor
    EVMed Forum.com

  • Martin Levac

    7/22/2010 8:59:17 PM |

    Dr. Davis, considering the persistent confusion I think it's time you bring precision to your suggestion. How much carbs by weight should a diabetic eat maximum daily? 50g, 100g, or 300g?

    My dad was given a guide that said he should eat a total of three meals per day, each containing no more than 60g of carbs, and two snacks per day, each containing no more than 30g of carbs. That's a total of 240g per day for a 65 yo diabetic man who is at least 50 lbs overweight. This guide came directly from the nutritionist employed by the diabetic association here in Canada. The guide also told him to reduce fat intake to a minimum especially saturated fat. And to reduce meat consumption and to increase fruit and vegetable consumption. I don't understand how this diet can be lower in carb if he must eat less fat.

    In fact the diet my dad was prescribed mimics exactly the Canadian nutritional guidelines. But wait, that's exactly how he got sick in the first place.

    For those who doubt Dr. Davis, all you need to do is ask your local diabetes association about the diet they prescribe for their patients. Then compare it to your national guidelines.

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/23/2010 1:20:52 AM |

    test

  • Dr. William Davis

    7/23/2010 1:51:44 AM |

    Hi, Billye--

    Thanks. And keep up your own good work!

    It makes me shudder to think of the years I spent following a low-fat diet, glycating proteins left and right.

  • CarbSane

    7/23/2010 3:15:00 PM |

    Why do you presume the ADA diet causes 10-15lb/year weight gain if followed?  That's just ridiculous.

  • meenraja

    7/23/2010 5:24:11 PM |

    I have been following with interest the discussion thread regarding the harmful effects of grains. However one must remember that the ancient civilizations in Africa and Asia have been eating fermented grains for a long time with minimal impact. Please link up to these sites to see the benefits of fermented grains.

    Please do not throw the baby out with the bathwater

    http://herbs.sakthifoundation.org/rice.htm

    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-way-to-soak-brown-rice.html

    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/06/in-search-of-traditional-asian-diets.html

    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/06/fermented-grain-recipes-from-around.html

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/23/2010 5:56:09 PM |

    meenraja, there is a lot of value in this blog and what Dr Davis has to say but I am constantly frustrated by the conflation here of refined, extracted, highly processed carbs with intact, whole grains.  Better still fermented whole grains!!!  It all depends on your individual metabolism but indeed, the baby does risk a flying lesson...

  • billye

    7/23/2010 6:44:18 PM |

    Dr. Stramge,

    Frustratingly, the link you provided for the 12 studies can not be opened.  However, it doesn't matter, because, if the studies that you cite were correct that red meat caused diabetes type 2 in the first place, there would be an existing archaeological record of diseases of the metabolic syndrome being present throughout history.  There is none.  We were metabolic syndrome disease free for 2.5 million years.  Now this is an experiment I can trust.The first mention of diabetes type 2 was in the Egyptian era after the advent of agriculture.  If this was not correct, how did we get here disease free in the first place?  We ate predominately red flesh for millions of years without diseases of the metabolic syndrome. If You wish to avoid or cure diabetes type 2, follow as your ancestgors did a low carb high saturated fat evolutionary health supporting lifestyle under the direction of your doctor who practices evolutionary medicine.

    Billy E
    Editor
    EvMed Forum.com

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/23/2010 6:47:16 PM |

    Long story short, finally got around to changing my screen name to my real name

    Formerly known as Dr.Strange (you really do not want to know about it)

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/23/2010 6:48:54 PM |

    " We ate predominately red flesh for millions of years without diseases of the metabolic syndrome. If You wish to avoid or cure diabetes type 2, follow as your ancestgors did a low carb high saturated fat evolutionary health supporting lifestyle under the direction of your doctor who practices evolutionary medicine."

    It is not known for certain what was eaten pre-ag but from everything I have read about hunter-gatherers, I rather doubt they were meatitarians.  Mostly plants, leaves, roots, fruits, yes some meat whenever they could get it.  It isn't the meat per say but the iron load according to the article I linked above

  • Martin Levac

    7/23/2010 7:09:40 PM |

    Geoffrey, do you know about the expensive tissue hypothesis? See here:
    http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-library/are-we-meat-eaters-or-vegetarians-part-ii/

    To summarize, eating meat made us human. The expensive tissue hypothesis says that our brain got bigger while our gut got smaller. And the only way the two happened simultaneously was because we ate meat, lots and lots of meat. But most especially fat fatty meat. The fatter the better.

    The brain is the most expensive tissue while the gut is the second most expensive tissue.

    Fat is the easiest thing to digest and we have one dedicated organ for just that purpose, the gallbladder. In fact, bile is made in part from cholesterol which is made from fat. Also, bile and cholesterol is recycled sometimes several times during the same meal. So, fat digests itself and it's cheap and efficient to do so.

    Fat also contains the most energy per weight and per volume. Thus, not only is it less expensive to digest fat, but it's also more profitable to eat fat. Consequently, the gut can shrink since it doesn't need to be so big, and the brain can grow since there's enough fuel for that.

    Finally, from fat we get ketones. When the brain uses ketones, it works about 30% more efficiently than when it uses glucose. This means it can do the same work with 30% less fuel or do 30% more work with the same fuel. No matter the point is that by eating fat fatty meat, we allowed our brain to grow the size it is today.

    We can also find studies that show that vegetarians have smaller brains than omnivores and carnivores. This last seems to tell us that not eating enough meat restricts the growth of our brain.

  • billye

    7/23/2010 7:39:09 PM |

    Geofrey Levens,

    Iron overload from red meat is a false premises unless you are talking about hemochromatosis which is a genetic disease.  I would love to read the studies that you cite, but, as aforementioned the link can't be opened.  However, rest assured that if such studies were valid Dr. Tourgeman would have surely come across them.  After all he is a nephrologist and as such his specialty is chronic kidney disease and he treats iron deficiency all the time.  No such iron problem as you cite exists in normal people.

    Billy E
    Editor
    EvMed Forum

  • billye

    7/23/2010 8:03:58 PM |

    Hi Martin Levac,

    You ask about what is the proper amount of carbohydrate for a person with diabetes type 2 to eat.  I cured my diabetes type 2 under the direction of my doctor who practices evolutionary medicine eating no more than from 20 grams to 50 grams of carbs daily.  If involved in very strenuous exercise one can go up to 70 grams of carbs daily, but remember only under your doctors supervision.

    Billy E
    Editor
    EvMed Forum

  • Gretchen

    7/23/2010 8:14:47 PM |

    Re "It isn't the meat per say but the iron load according to the article I linked above"

    I eat a lot of red meat, and I had my iron level measured. It was in the low end of the normal range.

    We're all different and someone else might be affected differently. It seems to me that if you're concerned about something, you should be tested for it rather than accepting some generalization from a book.

    Different people interpret diet guidelines differently and different people have different physiologies and can react differently to the exact same diet.

  • Anonymous

    7/23/2010 8:32:30 PM |

    @Martin

    "We can also find studies that show that vegetarians have smaller brains than omnivores and carnivores. This last seems to tell us that not eating enough meat restricts the growth of our brain."

    Can you find a peer reviewed scientific study published in a reputable journal ?

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/23/2010 8:46:29 PM |

    On eating lots of meat and animal fat:

    "...the expensive tissue hypothesis? See here:
    http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-library/are-we-meat-eaters-or-vegetarians-part-ii/ "

    Well, "Yaba-daba-do!"  There are competing theories.  All evidence from modern hunter-gatherers indicates meat only part of largely plant based diet.  The two articles below may help...

    http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/2009/09/lets-not-twist-history-to-support-our.html

    http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/2009/11/saying-something-over-and-over-doesnt.html
    ---------------------------------
    Iron load:

    "However, rest assured that if such studies were valid Dr. Tourgeman would have surely come across them. After all he is a nephrologist and as such his specialty is chronic kidney disease and he treats iron deficiency all the time. No such iron problem as you cite exists in normal people."

    Acute problems are quite a different animal than chronic.  Low grade iron overload is basically a form of heavy metal poisoning.  Bodies differ in ability to carry such loads and higher iron levels may well be a cancer risk.  This is at far lower levels than hemochromatosis:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2577284/
    "...increased iron concentrations after the menopause could be an important aetiological factor in the development of breast cancer in this population. Iron is well known for catalysing Fenton/Haber-Weiss or autoxidation reactions, that lead to the formation of reactive oxygen species (ROS) and lipid peroxidation, as well as their products, which give rise to mutagenic aldehydyes, such as 4-hydroxynonenal..."

  • Martin Levac

    7/23/2010 11:44:31 PM |

    @Geoffrey,

    One of the arguments raised against the expensive tissue hypothesis and the claim that we were healthier before agriculture is that humans that were sick died quickly.

    That argument actually supports the claim that we were healthier before agriculture. Why? Natural selection was swift back then. Indeed, if we follow the logic to its conclusion, we find that since natural selection was swift, and since only the fittest survived, well, only the fittest survived. Consequently, we are the descendants of those who lived. Or rather, we can't be the descendants of those who died.

    Whenever we argue natural selection, we must consider that only the fittest survived and only their descendants are alive today. Furthermore, the proof of this natural selection can be had by doing some simple tests with only a couple humans. We have such a test concerning diet. It's the Stefansson all meat trial.

    How does that support the expensive tissue hypothesis? Well, that trial tells us that we can maintain perfect health indefinitely on a diet composed exclusively of animal flesh. How does that support the hypothesis? Well, if we can survive today on a diet composed exclusively of animal flesh, this means that in our past those that couldn't survive on such a diet died off quickly enough so that they did not produce offspring. See? That's how natural selection works.

    Natural selection can work within a single period and still be very effective at sifting the species. But for the argument at hand, both hypotheses acknowledge that this kind of natural selection in favor of carnivores took place several times and for long periods. I.e. there were several lengthy and repetitive periods of famine. It's important to note that famine happens across the spectrum of life. It's also important to note that it starts at the bottom of the food chain, i.e. plants.

    So, all these periods of famine naturally selected against those who relied on plants and in favor of those who relied on animal flesh. This happened several times so that only those who could rely on animal flesh could survive.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • Martin Levac

    7/23/2010 11:55:43 PM |

    @anonymous

    Here's one paper on the subject:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18779510
    "Vitamin B12 status and rate of brain volume loss in community-dwelling elderly."

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/24/2010 1:02:54 AM |

    Martin Levac, one study w/ N=1 is not even a rumor let alone proof that all can do it let.  And "can do" does not even imply "should do" let alone prove.

    I suppose those food animals were unaffected by the same drought/food shortage that starved the humans and so they just continued to hang out in the area in great abundance, waiting to be eaten?

  • Martin Levac

    7/24/2010 4:04:22 AM |

    @Geoffrey

    We can claim that this person was unique and had the unique ability to eat a diet composed exclusively of animal flesh that not shared but the rest of the population, but we'd have to test this claim before it was valid. So how do we test this claim? First we see if he is like us. As it happens, that all meat trial did test this idea whether the subjects (ah yes, there were two subjects for that study) responded like the rest of us to specific stimuli. But don't take my word for it, read it for yourself. It's called the Bellevue all meat trial. The point is, if they respond like us to specific stimuli, then we should respond like them to the same stimuli.

    But even then that's not enough to conclude that an all meat diet was at some point the only diet for most humans. We'd have to test the alternative hypothesis: That we have the best health in a mixed diet. It so happens that we have such tests. One is the Minnesota starvation experiment, the other is the Biosphere 2 project. In both instances, a mixed diet did not maintain us in perfect health indefinitely. In fact, deficiency developed. Deficiency in those experiments developed in short enough time that any deficiency would have shown up in the all meat trial (which lasted one year), if deficiency such a diet should have caused.

    If you mean that when there's a famine, certain animals just stick around in large groups? I don't know about that. Do you? However it seems most reasonable that if sticking around is a survival strategy for a group of prey to defend themselves against predators, I doubt they'll change that strategy just because there's less food for them. I mean, that kind of behavior is one such aspect that gets sifted through natural selection. In other words, if sticking together gives them the best chance for survival, then those who do stick together will reproduce, both in numbers and in behavior.

    With natural selection, you must always ask if this particular aspect you're looking at was most advantageous for the species' survival.

    With science, you must take intervention experiments more seriously than epidemiological observation even if the experiment was done with a single subject while the epidemiological observations were done on billions of subjects. Why? Because with epidemiological observation, it's impossible to determine cause and effect. We can only do that with experimental study. So while you'd like to dismiss this N=2 study, you'd have to find another study of equal value before you could refute it.

  • Martin Levac

    7/24/2010 4:14:39 AM |

    Correction. I wrote "that not shared but the rest of the population" when I should have written "was not shared but the rest of the population".

    A further bit of logic for natural selection.

    Maybe Stefansson and his acolyte were unique examples of the human species who were specially adapted to an all meat diet and the rest of us are not. But that doesn't matter because the very fact that we have two examples of humans with the special ability to maintain perfect health indefinitely on an all meat diet means that at some point we did have to survive on an all meat diet exclusively for a long enough time so that the genome required for this feat came into existence. Or rather, only the previous existence of the required genome allowed us to survive that way during such a time of famine.

    But no matter, the ability to survive on an all meat diet is dependent on our physiology. It so happens that all humans have the same physiology with very rare exceptions. And Stefansson and his partner were not those exceptions.

  • jpatti

    7/24/2010 1:29:08 PM |

    After you've been diabetic a while, you get very suspicious of anyone using the word "cure".

    Low-carb is not a cure.  Low-carb is a method of control allowing you to attain normal bg numbers.  And it doesn't always work, cause after 2 decades of low-carb, I needed to go on insulin to continue good bg control.

    Low carb is like saying, my car doesn't run very well, so I'll prolong it's life by not driving much.  This is not a cure, it's management.

    My husband achieves normal bg numbers after eating 1/6th of a chocolate cake.  This is because he is NOT diabetic. His bg "spikes" to all of 70-80 after a giant piece of cake.

    A "cure" would be achieving *that* - not just achieving normal bg numbers.  

    Anyone, with attention to diet, exercise, an appropriate diet, and whatever drugs are needful, can achieve normal bg numbers - and that is very important for the health of diabetics.

    But it's not a cure until you can do it with sugar.  My blood glucose control system works just fine as long as it has minimal sugar to deal with.  But a CURE would be it working like my husbands.

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/24/2010 2:35:54 PM |

    Martin Levac, I do not understand who you can even imagine that the two studies you mention (Biosphere and Minnesota starvations)have any relationship whatsoever to a mixed diet, a vegetarian diet, vegan diet, all meat/fat diet, any diet at all.  In both studies, the participants were literally starved by being grossly calorie deficient.  No diet will keep you healthy in that situation.  So really, those are both irrelevant.

    As for "famine" etc, when plant foods get scarce, plant eating prey animals get scarce, and soon enough, predators also get scarce.  They all starve.  So what is your point?  That overweight/fat people will live a bit longer during a famine compared to those at a lower BMI?

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/24/2010 2:39:30 PM |

    "the very fact that we have two examples of humans with the special ability to maintain perfect health indefinitely on an all meat diet means that at some point we did have to survive on an all meat diet exclusively for a long enough time so that the genome required for this feat came into existence. Or rather, only the previous existence of the required genome allowed us to survive that way during such a time of famine."

    Only your last sentence is correct.  Genetic changes do not occur due to specific outside influences. What does occur is increase in random mutations and then the environment selects for those.  So yes, the genes for all meat survival were there but not because it had long been done or was necessary.  The enviro influences effect gene expression in specific ways, that is true...

  • Martin Levac

    7/24/2010 6:31:20 PM |

    @jpatti, I'm sorry that you can't get your blood sugar under control. I hope you get better.

    Somebody explained to me what diabetes was. He said that basically it was "uncontrolled hyperglycemia combined with uncontrolled hyperinsulinemia". What he meant was that diabetes was high blood sugar combined with high insulin.

    Now that makes sense. However, when I read more, I realized that the real nature of diabetes was that cells didn't respond to insulin anymore. When that happens, blood sugar rises uncontrollably and insulin rises uncontrollably but even then there's not enough insulin to control blood sugar.

    Why is it like that? I don't know but maybe cells stop taking in insulin because somehow too much insulin hurts them and that's the only way they found to protect themselves from the bad effects of high insulin. Now that would make sense. I mean, if kids made too much noise around you, you'd put plugs in your ears and that would take care of the problem, wouldn't it. However, when kids talk to you, you need to be able to hear them. But if you have plugs in your ears, that's not gonna be possible anymore.

    So what's the solution? Get rid of the kids or at least get rid of the noise they make. In other words, get rid of the sugar or at least change the nature of the sugar. So, either you cut out all carbs, or you stop eating refined carbs (like sugar, HFCS and white flour for example) and go with whole foods instead. But ultimately, you will have to cut down on the amount of carbs you eat.

  • Martin Levac

    7/24/2010 6:46:54 PM |

    @Geoffrey

    Well, the two studies were done with a mixed diet. And the participants did suffer the same consequences. I don't understand how you could consider 1600-1800 calories per day "grossly calorie deficient".

    So what is my point? That only those best adapted to the situation right now survive to reproduce. But that's not my point, it's the point of natural selection. I merely pointed out that natural selection was the driving factor in our current physiology.

    Did you propose that only the fattest would survive times of famine? Or were you implying that I proposed that idea? I didn't propose that. No matter, let's explore it anyway.

    Considering how we get fat today, then we'd have to show that the fattest humans back then had access to a boatload of refined carbs. OK, I see no point in going further with this argument.

  • billye

    7/24/2010 9:22:34 PM |

    Hi Martin Levac,

    I see you finally became exhausted and gave up.  I came to the same conclusion some 14 comments ago.  To argue with Geoffrey is just like arguing with Ancel Keys, pointless.  To keep arguing against evidence gathered in the greatest scientific archaeological experiment that has been going on for the last 2.5 million years and probably much longer, shows an incredible lack of comprehension.  If not for eating red meat we would not be here now and certainly not with the large brain that we have.  In order for Geoffrey to be correct it would mean that the vast majority of archeologist's were wrong.  That is an incredible reach.You made some very cogent points, and I know that most of readers agree with us, as does Dr. Davis and Dr. Tourgeman along with the rest of the evolutionary lifestyle blogosphere.  An evolutionary health supporting lifestyle is the future along with the practice of evolutionary medicine.  The primary component of a health supporting lifestyle is grass fed and finished animal flesh, with a few not very starchy tubers, ample greens, and a few not very sweet berries.  I rest my healthy flesh eating case.

    Billy E
    Editor
    EvMed Forum.com

  • Dr. William Davis

    7/25/2010 3:21:52 AM |

    Meenraja--

    I would not be so quick to dismiss the adverse effect of grains based on the presumption that they were benign in ancient times. In fact, they were not.

    Celiac disease, for example, has been with us for 2000 years. Millions have likely died, not of famine or war, but from grains like wheat. How senseless is that?

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/25/2010 4:04:28 AM |

    Meenraja--  people die from peanut allergy.  Does not mean peanuts are bad or even dangerous. Just that those w/ certain physiological abnormalities should not eat them.  Celiac/wheat is same. Gluten intolerance may indeed effect up to 30% of population but that means, large majority, 70% are absolutely fine with it.

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/25/2010 9:11:35 PM |

    "I don't understand how you could consider 1600-1800 calories per day "grossly calorie deficient."

    "a 6-mo semistarvation period, beginning on February 12, 1945, in which they received 1800 kcal (7531 kJ) of food/d, with the starvation diet reflecting that experienced in the war-torn areas of Europe, i.e., potatoes, turnips, rutabagas, dark bread, and macaroni"

    Opps, well I guess they did get plenty of calories.  Could be the study proved we need to eat some non-starch vegetables to be healthy?  I do know that not having eaten any animal protein nor animal faand t for close to 3 years now, the only problem I have encountered was EFA deficiency from going too low fat following the McDougall diet.  I exercise pretty hard daily, have good energy, etc.  I guess that is an experiment w/ an N of 1...

  • Martin Levac

    7/25/2010 10:44:50 PM |

    @Geoffrey

    If you ate dairy, then you ate animal protein. B12 is also found in dairy. Did you eat dairy? If not, then consider that B12 deficiency is inevitable and probably already well established since you're been avoiding animal protein for 3 years.

    Ironically, taking supplements to counter the obvious deficiency of a diet lacking animal flesh acknowledges that humans require vitamin B12 which is only naturally found in animal flesh. Ergo, humans require animal flesh to maintain perfect health indefinitely.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B12_Deficiency

  • Anonymous

    7/25/2010 11:25:37 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Wonder if you are concerned whether cutting carbs significantly increases the consumption of dietary AGEs?  The table in the linked article shows order of magnitude higher AGEs in fat-rich foods, including olive oil and nuts, than in carbs...

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20497781

    David

  • Martin Levac

    7/25/2010 11:50:37 PM |

    @Anonymous

    The study you looked at is about dietary AGEs, not blood levels or cellular levels of AGEs. The two are not synonymous.

    http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/ketones-and-ketosis/ketosis-cleans-our-cells/

    http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-library/low-carb-diets-reduce-oxidative-stress/

    http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/sugar-and-sweeteners/vegetarians-age-faster-2/

  • Dr. William Davis

    7/26/2010 12:23:51 AM |

    Hi, David--

    Excellent point.

    There are two general sources of AGEs: endogenous from carbohydrates and exogenous from animal products.

    We've got to eat something, so it becomes a matter of identifying the foods richer in AGEs and minimizing exposure.

    This will be the focus of future discussions here and on the Track Your Plaque website.

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/26/2010 12:41:42 AM |

    Martin, no dairy...no animal derived foods. No B-12 deficiency either as I supplement w/ methylcobalain.  Of course we need B-12 but this is 2010 so no need to get it from animals.  You can but it is not necessary.

  • Geoffrey Levens

    7/26/2010 12:42:28 AM |

    Oh and I take K2 as well as vitamin D3

  • Martin Levac

    7/26/2010 1:16:46 AM |

    @Geoffrey

    So you do take supplements to alleviate the obvious deficiency that an all plant diet would cause? The subjects in the Biosphere 2 project also took supplements to the full RDA at the time yet suffered the same problems as the subjects of the semi-starvation study.

    I rest my case.

  • Anonymous

    7/26/2010 1:59:02 AM |

    "So you do take supplements to alleviate the obvious deficiency that an all plant diet would cause? The subjects in the Biosphere 2 project also took supplements to the full RDA at the time yet suffered the same problems as the subjects of the semi-starvation study.

    I rest my case."

    I have been following this discussion closely and have learned a lot. I have no sides and am only in search of my own path and optimal health. I'm more of a middle of the road type. My wight has never been an issue and my energy levels are great. But I have to agree with what I have quoted. I am really not schooled I any of this. Truly a lay person. But I think any fool can see that if you need to "supplement" it is because something is missing. In my simple minded view if something is "missing" then why supplement if you can get it from the source? Ok....suppose the source has been tainted? ( chemicals, hormones etc). So what? that doesn't negate the fact that we (at least at one time) "needed" that stuff.  Supplementation only proves (IMO) that we need to consume animal products. Way back when there were no supplements so today that is only a luxury. So is a drive through....that doesn't make it better.

  • donny

    7/27/2010 1:02:23 PM |

    If you look at rodent nutrient self-selection studies; diabetic animals will select a high fat, low-carb diet and keep their blood sugars from getting out of control in this manner. Studies correlating meat intake to disease and blaming the disease on the diet don't establish cause and effect; and it's well established that disease (and diabetes in particular) can cause a food  preference shift.

  • meenraja

    8/1/2010 2:40:56 AM |

    I am not propagating wheat at all. I am more in favor of fermented brown rice as well as gluten free grains like millet. In fact since i stared eating fermented brown rice with home made oragnic yougurt my Choletsrol, BP as well as triglycerides has come down markedly. I used to have symptoms of IBS as well which has gone away. Whereas if I eat homemade wheat bread symtoms reappear. This is just a personal example.

  • Geoffrey Levens

    8/1/2010 3:01:53 AM |

    "In fact since i stared eating fermented brown rice with home made oragnic yougurt my Choletsrol, BP as well as triglycerides has come down markedly. I used to have symptoms of IBS as well which has gone away."

    Interesting as all those conditions/symptoms can be and often are mediated strongly by stress and fermented rice will give you a good dose of GABA which is quiet calming an stress reducing, lowering cortisol levels quite rapidly!

  • James

    8/11/2010 9:20:42 PM |

    I see this type of 'doctoring' in customers all the time.  Their doctor does not tell them what to eat or when not to eat certain foods.  There is no discussion on the use of chromium, cinnamon or any other hypoglycemic herb or mineral that can work with the body to reduce fasting blood sugar and H1c.  Of course the snack food makers are going to contribute to the ADA. I believe you can make a case for the snack food makers being the same a drug cartel.  So what if it kills our customers there are always new one to replace them. One last thoght, We can't after all cure diabetes otherwise the drug companies would have no one to sell to.

  • Anonymous

    8/12/2010 8:02:15 PM |

    Shame on you, Dr Davis for helping the spread of ignorance.  You say "The tragedy is that diabetes is a curable condition".  The ignorance you are helping to spread is that anything called "diabetes" can be cured/controlled by proper eating alone.  As many other commenters have already said, Type 2 can be excellently controlled by low-carb eating although that is not the same as a cure. Type 1 diabetes is a lot easier to control with low-carb eating, but it cannot yet be cured by any method.  There is enough ignorance out there that all diabetics brought it on themselves without those who should know better reinforcing this erroneous view.

  • Dr Eric Berg

    8/17/2010 9:14:40 AM |

    its just so sad to hear about those doctors whose practicing this. they should help / cure sick people not just deal of it.

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