The case builds against wheat

Looking back over the past few posts I've made about the adverse health effects of wheat, I was surprised to see just how many people have posted descriptions of their dramatic experiences following this route.

While I've seen it in real life many times, it always helps to have corroboration from others. Here is what a number of Heart Scan Blog readers and commenters have said:



Barbara W said:

It's true! We've done it. My husband and I stopped eating all grains and sugar in February. At this point, we really don't miss them any more. It was a huge change, but it's worth the effort. I've lost over 20 pounds (10 to go)and my husband has lost 45 pounds (20 to go). On top of it, our body shapes have changed drastically. It is really amazing. I've got my waist back (and a whole wardrobe of clothes) - I'm thrilled.

I'm also very happy to be eating foods that I always loved like eggs, avocados, and meats - without feeling guilty that they're not good for me.

With the extremely hot weather this week in our area, we thought we'd "treat" ourselves to small ice cream cones. To our surprise, it wasn't that much of a treat. Didn't even taste as good as we'd anticipated. I know I would have been much more satisfied with a snack of smoked salmon with fresh dill, capers, chopped onion and drizzled with lemon juice.

Aside from weight changes, we both feel so much better in general - feel much more alert and move around with much greater flexibility, sleep well, never have any indigestion. We're really enjoying this. It's like feeling younger.

It's not a diet for us. This will be the way we eat from now on. Actually, we think our food has become more interesting and varied since giving up all the "white stuff". I guess we felt compelled to get a little more creative.

Eating out (or at other peoples' places) has probably been the hardest part of this adjustment. But now we're getting pretty comfortable saying what we won't eat. I'm starting to enjoy the reactions it produces.



Weight loss, increased energy, less abdominal bloating, better sleep--I've seen it many times, as well.


Dotslady said:

I was a victim of the '80s lowfat diet craze - doc told me I was obese, gave me the Standard American Diet and said to watch my fat (I'm not a big meat eater, didn't like mayo ... couldn't figure out where my fat was coming from! maybe the fries - I will admit I liked fries). I looked to the USDA food pyramid and to increase my fiber for the constipation I was experiencing. Bread with 3 grams of fiber wasn't good enough; I turned to Kashi cereals for 11 years. My constipation turned to steattorrhea and a celiac disease diagnosis! *No gut pains!* My PCP sent me to the gastroenterologist for a colonscopy because my ferritin was a 5 (20 is low range). Good thing I googled around and asked him to do an endoscopy or I'd be a zombie by now.

My symptoms were depression & anxiety, eczema, GERD, hypothyroidism, mild dizziness, tripping, Alzheimer's-like memory problems, insomnia, heart palpitations, fibromyalgia, worsening eyesight, mild cardiomyopathy, to name a few.

After six months gluten-free, I asked my gastroenterologist about feeling full early ... he said he didn't know what I was talking about! *shrug*

But *I* knew -- it was the gluten/starches! My satiety level has totally changed, and for the first time in my life I feel NORMAL!


Feeling satisfied with less is a prominent effect in my experience, too. You need to eat less, you're driven to snack less, less likely to give in to those evil little bedtime or middle-of-the-night impulses that make you feel ashamed and guilty.



An anonymous (female) commenter said:

My life changed when I cut not only all wheat, but all grains from my diet.

For the first time in my life, I was no longer hungry -no hunger pangs between meals; no overwhelming desire to snack. Now I eat at mealtimes without even thinking about food in between.

I've dropped 70 pounds, effortlessly, come off high blood pressure meds and control my blood sugar without medication.

I don't know whether it was just the elimination of grain, especially wheat, or whether it was a combination of grain elimnation along with a number of other changes, but I do know that mere reduction of grain consumption still left me hungry. It wasn't until I elimnated it that the overwhelming redution in appetite kicked in.

As a former wheat-addicted vegetarian, who thought she was eating healthily according to all the expert advice out there at the time, I can only shake my head at how mistaken I was.


That may be a record for me: 70 lbs!!


Stan said:

It's worth it and you won't look back!

Many things will improve, not just weight reduction: you will think clearer, your reflexes will improve, your breathing rate will go down, your blood pressure will normalize. You will never or rarely have a fever or viral infections like cold or flu. You will become more resistant to cold temperature and you will rarely feel tired, ever!



Ortcloud said:

Whenever I go out to breakfast I look around and I am in shock at what people eat for breakfast. Big stack of pancakes, fruit, fruit juice syrup, just like you said. This is not breakfast, this is dessert ! It has the same sugar and nutrition as a birthday cake, would anyone think cake is ok for breakfast ? No, but that is exactly the equivalent of what they are eating. Somehow we have been duped to think this is ok. For me, I typically eat an omelette when I go out, low carb and no sugar. I dont eat wheat but invariably it comes with the meal and I try to tell the waitress no thanks, they are stunned. They try to push some other type of wheat or sugar product on me instead, finally I have to tell them I dont eat wheat and they are doubly stunned. They cant comprehend it. We have a long way to go in terms of re-education.

Yes. Don't be surprised at the incomprehension, the rolled eyes, even the anger that can sometimes result. Imagine that told you that the food you've come to rely on and love is killing you!


Anne said:

I was overweight by only about 15lbs and I was having pitting edema in my legs and shortness of breath. My cardiologist and I were discussing the possible need of an angiogram. I was three years out from heart bypass surgery.

Before we could schedule the procedure, I tested positive for gluten sensitivity through www.enterolab.com. I eliminated not only wheat but also barley and rye and oats(very contaminated with wheat) from my diet. Within a few weeks my edema was gone, my energy was up and I was no longer short of breath. I lost about 10 lbs. The main reason I gave up gluten was to see if I could stop the progression of my peripheral neuropathy. Getting off wheat and other gluten grains has given me back my life. I have been gluten free for 4 years and feel younger than I have in many years.

There are many gluten free processed foods, but I have found I feel my best when I stick with whole foods.



Ann has a different reason (gluten enteropathy, or celiac disease) for wanting to be wheat-free. But I've seen similar improvements that go beyond just relief of the symptoms attributable to the inflammatory intestinal effects of gluten elimination.



Wccaguy said:

I have relatively successfully cut carbs and grains from my diet thus far.

Because I've got some weight to lose, I have tried to keep the carb count low and I've lost 15 pounds since then.

I have also been very surprised at the significant reduction in my appetite. I've read about the experience of others with regard to appetite reduction and couldn't really imagine that it could happen for me too. But it has.

A few weeks ago, I attended a party catered by one of my favorite italian restaurants and got myself offtrack for two days. Then it took me a couple of days to get back on track because my appetite returned.

Check out Jimmy Moore's website for lots of ideas about variations of foods to try. The latest thing I picked up from Jimmy is the good old-fashioned hard boiled egg. Two or three eggs with some spicy hot sauce for breakfast and a handful of almonds mid-morning plus a couple glasses of water and I'm good for the morning no problem.

I find myself thinking about lunch not because I'm really hungry but out of habit.

The cool thing too now is that the more I do this, the more I'm just not tempted much to do anything but this diet.



Going wheat-free, along with a reduction in processed sugary foods like Hawaiian Punch, sodas, and candy, is the straightest, most direct path I know of to lose weight, obtain all the health benefits listed by our commenters, as well as achieve the lipoprotein corrections we seek, like reduction of small LDL particles and rise in HDL, in the Track Your Plaque program.

Cheers to flavonoids

The case in favor of healthful flavonoids seems to grow bit by bit.

Flavonoids such as procyanadins in wine and chocolate, catechins in tea, and those in walnuts, pomegranates, and pycnogenol (pine bark extract) are suspected to block oxidation of LDL (preventing its entry into plaque), normalize abnormal endothelial constriction, and yield platelet-blocking effects (preventing blood clots).

Dr. Roger Corder is a prolific author of many scientific papers detailing his research into the flavonoids of foods, but wine in particular. He summarizes his findings in a recent book, The Red Wine Diet. Contrary to the obvious vying-for-prime-time title, Dr. Corder's compilation is probably the best discussion of flavonoids in foods and wines that I've come across. Although it would have been more entertaining if peppered with more wit and humans interest, given the topic, its straightfoward, semi-academic telling of the story makes his points effectively.

Among the important observations Corder makes is that regions of the world with the greatest longevity also correspond to regions with the highest procyanidin flavonoids in their wines.




Regading the variable flavonoid content of various wines, he states:

Although differences in the amount of procyanidins in red wine clearly occur because of the grape variety and the vineyard environment, the winemaker holds the key to what ends up in the bottle. The most important aspect of the winemaking process for ensuring high procyanidins in red wines is the contact time between the liquid and the grape seeds during fermentation when the alcohol concentration reaches about 6 percent. Depending on the fermentation temperature, it may be two to three days or more before this extraction process starts. Grape skins float and seeds sink, so the number of times they are pushed down and stirred into the fermenting wine also increases extraction of procyanidins. Even so, extraction is a slow process and, after fermentation is complete, many red wines are left to macerate with their seeds and skins for days or even weeks in order to extract all the color, flavor, and tannins. Wines that have a contact time of less than seven days will have a relatively low level of procyanidins. Wines with a contact time of ten to fourteen days have decent levels, and those with contact times of three weeks or more have the highest.

He points out that deeply-colored reds are more likely to be richer in procyanidins; mass-produced wines that are usually "house-grade" served at bars and restaurants tend to be low. Some are close to zero.

Wines rich in procyanidins provide several-fold more, such that a single glass can provide the same purported health benefit as several glasses of a procyanidin-poor wine.

So how do various wines stack up in procyanidin content? Here's an abbreviated list from his book:

Australian--tend to be low, except for Australian Cabernet Sauvignon which is moderate.

Chile--only Cabernet Sauvignon stands out, then only moderate in content.

France--Where to start? The French, of course, are the perennial masters of wine, and prolonged contact with skins and seeds is usually taken for granted in many varieties of wine. Each wine region (French wines are generally designated by region, not by variety of grape) can also vary widely in flavonoid content. Nonetheless, Bordeaux rate moderately; Burgundy low to moderate (except the village of Pommard); Languedoc-Roussillon moderate to high (and many great bargains in my experience, since these producers live in the shadow of its norther Bordeaux neighbors); Rhone (Cote du Rhone) moderate to high, though beware of their powerful "barnyard" character upon opening; decanting is wise.

Italy--Much red Italian wine is made from the Sangiovese grape and called variously Chianti, Valpolicella, and "super-Tuscan" when blended with other varietals. Corder rates the southern Italian wines from Sicily, Sardinia, and the mainland as high in procyanidins; most northern varieties are moderate.

Spain--Moderate in general.

United States--Though his comments are disappointingly scanty on the U.S., he points out that Cabernet Sauvignon is the standout for procyanidin content. He mentions only the Napa/Sonoma regions, unfortunately. (I'd like to know how the San Diego-Temecula and Virginian wines fare, for instance.)

The winner in procyanidin content is a variety grown in the Gers region of southwest France, a region with superior longevity of its residents. The wines here are made with the tannat grape within the Madiran appellation; wines labeled "Madiran" must contain 40% or more tannat to be so labeled (such is a quirk of French wine regulation). However, among the producers Dr. Corder lists are Chateau de Sabazan, CHateau Saint-Go, Chateau du Bascou, Domaine Labranche Laffont, and Chateau d'Aydie. (A more complete can be found in his book.)

How does this all figure into the Track Your Plaque program? Can you succeed without red wine? Of course you can. I doubt you could do it, however, without some attention to flavonoid-rich food sources, whether they come from spinach, tea, chocolate, beets, pomegranates, or red wine.

Though my wife and I love wine, I confess that I've never personally drank or even seen a French Madiran wine. Any wine afficionados with some advice?

Wheat and the hunger factor

Low carbohydrate diets are becoming increasingly popular. In my experience, they also work exceptionally well.

However, I have observed a specific aspect of low-carb diets that deserves special attention: When wheat products in particular are eliminated, hunger plummets enormously.

It seems peculiar to wheat. Other high-glycemic index carbohydrates like a baked potato or white rice, for instance, don't seem to have the capacity to trigger appetite like a handful of pretzels or crackers can. There are exceptions: processed sweet drinks that contain high-fructose corn syrup can stimulate appetite, as do foods made with processed corn and corn starch.



However, wheat has grown to occupy an enormous part of diet, partly because of the "high-fiber" trickery that causes us to believe that wheat is healthy, but also, I'm convinced, because of wheat's hunger factor.


A reader of the The Heart Scan Blog recently made this comment:

I discovered this blog and Dr. Davis' TYP program at the beginning of September. I have relatively successfully cut carbs and grains from my diet thus far.

Because I've got some weight to lose, I have tried to keep the carb count low and I've lost 15 pounds since then.

I have also been very surprised at the significant reduction in my appetite. I've read about the experience of others with regard to appetite reduction and couldn't really imagine that it could happen for me too. But it has.

A few weeks ago, I attended a party catered by one of my favorite Italian restaurants and got myself offtrack for two days. Then it took me a couple of days to get back on track because my appetite returned.

Check out Jimmy Moore's website for lots of ideas about variations of foods to try. The latest thing I picked up from Jimmy is the good old-fashioned hard boiled egg. Two or three eggs with some spicy hot sauce for breakfast and a handful of almonds mid-morning plus a couple glasses of water and I'm good for the morning no problem.

I find myself thinking about lunch not because I'm really hungry but out of habit.

The cool thing too now is that the more I do this, the more I'm just not tempted much to do anything but this diet.



I, too, have personally experienced this effect. I also was skeptical. It made no sense. How can whole grain bread increase appetite? I don't know what it is about wheat products that make them especially powerful triggers of appetite. I think that it probably goes beyond glycemic index, perhaps some other component besides taste.

But if you want to seize control over appetite, elimination--not reduction--but elimination of wheat, as well as other processed carbohydrates, can really change the way you approach food. (Interestingly, The Wheat Foods Council estimates that the average American eats 144 lbs of wheat flour per year; they argue that it should be increased 210 lbs per year!)

Eliminating wheat products is also an effective tool in the Track Your Plaque program for raising HDL, reducing triglycerides, reducing small LDL, and reducing both blood sugar and blood pressure. And it can be among the most effective ways to control appetite, since eliminating wheat also eliminates its hunger factor.

Foods to consider to take up the calorie slack when eliminating wheat: cheese (fermented, of course, for vitamin K2 content); eggs, as our reader pointed out; other lean proteins like lean red meats, fish, chicken, turkey; more liberal use of healthy oils like olive and flaxseed; plenty of raw nuts and seeds; soy milk and tofu. Obviously, the center of your diet should remain vegetables.

Our friends at Liposcience

A number of Track Your Plaque Members are still outraged at LabCorp's failure to convey the results of page 2 of the NMR Lipoprofile, as provided by Liposcience, Inc., the testing laboratory that actually performs the test. We've gotten an audience at both Liposcience and LabCorp, though no real progress in obtaining this information has yet been made.

Anyway, that's not what I'd like to focus on. Despite the tremendous aggravation created by this incomprehensible glitch, NMR Lipoprofile remains, in my view, the best way to discover hidden sources of risk for heart disease and the most powerful way to develop a coronary plaque/heart scan score control program.

We could do without NMR, but I think that we'd pay a price in effectiveness. We'd be, in effect, driving blindly when it comes to certain lipoprotein patterns. Some abnormalities, like intermediate-density lipoprotein (IDL) and LDL particle number, are superior to similar measures (like apoprotein B and direct LDL) and yield priceless information that is simply not obtainable as reliably by any other method.

I've had my share of negative experiences with the marketing director and the staff at Liposcience, but it's the vision of company founder and inventor of the technology, biochemist Dr. James Otvos, that should continue to shine. Dr. Otvos' ingenious technology to fractionate plasma proteins has provided an advantage for coronary plaque reversal and reduction of CT heart scan scores that no other method can provide as well.

For a useful discussion on basic lipoprotein science, listen to the discussion provided by Dr. William Cromwell of Liposcience by clicking on the graphic below:

Condensed Taubes

For anyone looking for a quick glimpse at Gary Taubes' provocative arguments on the detrimental health effects of the current carbohydrate-crazed world, take a look at the CNN post of an interview of Taubes at CNN. (Thanks, Fanatic Cook, for pointing this out.)

In his book, Good Calories, Bad Calories, Taubes, a science reporter, manages to deftly and systematically disarticulate the entire argument for the low-fat approach to nutrition that has dominated conventional advice for the last 30+ years.

The book is impressively detailed and well-thought through. If you would like an introduction to the nutrition world according to Taubes, take a look at the CNN video, which permits him to provide a quick, condensed version of his ideas. Even when debating the issue with physicians, Taubes' arguments shine through as a voice of reason, cutting through the flabby and tired arguments that have been proven misguided by the experience of those around us.

Fast-forward information

The internet has accelerated the conversation in health . . . enormously.

The discussions we have in Blogs, places like the Track Your Plaque Forum, and websites have accelerated the exchange of information and ideas so much that it is making traditional "official" sources of information IRRELEVANT.

Dr. John Cannell's unfailingly interesting and insightful comments in his most recent Vitamin D Newsletter brought this issue to mind. In his discussion of the vitamin D needs of pregnant women and his frustration with the failure of the National Institute of Health to take action despite the evidence, he states:

Whenever you see a child with asthma, diabetes or autism, just think: American Medical Association, American Pediatric Association, Institute of Medicine, Centers for Disease Control, National Institutes of Health, or Food and Nutrition Board.

Dr. Cannell is upset with the misguided advice of these agencies for mothers and babies to totally avoid sun while failing to provide advice on vitamin D supplementation, a combination of unhealthy factors that will increase the incidence of both type I and II diabetes, childhood asthma, and perhaps even childhood autism.

But this got me thinking: Here we are listening to a very credible source in Dr. Cannell, who has proven a discriminating judge of the evidence, along with vitamin D experts like Tufts University's Dr. Michael Holick, who has written a book on vitamin D (The UV Advantage: The Medical Breakthrough that Shows How to Harness the Power of the Sun for Your Health) ; University of Toronto's Dr. Reinhold Vieth, whose wonderful webcast on vitamin D was certain to convince you of many aspects of this nutrient's vital importance in health (unfortunately, it must have been taken off the hosting server, since I can no longer locate it); among others.

We all have access to this information. They are providing discussions on the topic that have long ago made the comments of "official" agencies like the FDA or the Institute of Medicine's Food and Nutrition Board (charged with setting RDA's for vitamins) irrelevant. While information is conveyed at lightning speed through internet media sources, discussion boards, and chats, the committees of "experts" often sit on their hands, fearful of speaking out, often themselves unfamiliar with the scientific literature or the conversations being conducted, not uncommonly having hidden agendas of their own that might interfere with their impartiality.

Information on health (and other subjects, as well) is being conveyed to the interested public faster and faster. The FDA, the USDA, the Food and Nutrition Board, the American Heart Association are increasingly being viewed as behind the times. They often also provide tainted information. Among the most glaring examples of biased information is the Heart Association's endorsement of "heart healthy" products in its Heart Check Mark program, including Cocoa Puffs, Cookie Crisp cereal, and Berry Kix, pure unadulterated junk foods thinly veiled with the Heart Association stamp of approval. Or the American Diabetes Association failure to speak out on the increasing penetration of carbohydrate and sugary junk foods in the American diet, while maintaining relationships and funding from its number one financial contributor, Cadbury Schweppes, the number one candy, soft drink, and snack manufacturer in the world.

The collective knowledge we are gaining through our own efforts will supplant the mis-information provided by official agencies. Just as Wikipedia represents collective knowledge on a broad range of topics, such a collective wisdom will develop in health, as well.

America: The world’s diet laboratory

Low-fat, low-carb, high-protein, Pritikin, Ornish, Atkins, South Beach, Sonoma, Sugar-Busters, Weight Watchers, vegetarian . . . Have Americans tried them all?

We’ve witnessed the relative success of diet habits in selected regions world-wide: the longevity of the Japanese on a spare soy and fish-based diet; the reduced heart disease incidence of the French despite an indulgent food-centered culture; the extreme heart disease-free lives of the Cretan Greeks.

Contrast this with the startling failure of the American diet experiment: We’re all (speaking for the collective whole) fat, diabetic, and miserably mired in the diseases of obesity. We’ve experimented with every possible iteration of diet from grapefruit or cabbage only, to calorie deprivation (a al Weight Watchers), to restricting this or that element of diet. The “official” organizations have made their contributions, as well: the American Heart Association’s Therapeutic Lifestyle Changes (formerly Step I and II diets), a program eerily similar to what Americans are already eating and resulting in failure; the American Diabetes Association diet, incomprehensibly embracing carbohydrates when they are the root of the nutrition-habit-gone-wrong that caused the disease in the first place; the USDA and their Food Pyramid, encompassing a design that contains the germ of wisdom but is so heavily overweighted in grains that it is a sure-fire way to increase weight and heart disease were you to follow their recommendations.

What have we learned from our grand experiment, our nationwide misadventure in nutrition?

I believe that we’ve learned how not to eat: Processed snack foods, meals delivered in a fast-food setting with the offer to “super-size” your order, make-believe food ingested in your car eaten for the sake of staving off the inevitable hunger pangs. Few would argue that these are certain paths to obesity and poor health.

Certainly, if we’ve learned how not to eat, can we extrapolate just how to eat? And not just for weight loss, since most diets focus just on that, but on health, particularly heart health?

If Americans have so far failed to learn the lessons of the nutritional world, we certainly have not failed at talking about it. From books to blogs, websites, information gurus to infomercials, we certainly celebrate the capacity to share our experiences, our grief over our nutritional “misfortune,” despite a world of plenty.

Yet we swim in a sea of information. Can we sift through the chaff to discover the essential truth?

Let me articulate an extreme (extreme meaning closer to the truth, I hope) interpretation of nutritional wisdom:

--If it requires a label or nutritional analysis, reject it. The wondrous green pepper, or bottle of olive oil, for instance, require no such qualifications. Some exceptions: milk, yogurt, cottage cheese (unless, of course, you purchase straight from a local producer). I am always impressed with the contortions and frustrations people experience trying to decipher labels. Ironically, the healthiest foods don’t even require labels.

--If it is ingested in a rush, it’s likely to add to poor health. True food is meant to be consumed at leisure, not in haste to satisfy some irrational, unthinking impulse.

--Search for natural, whole foods. Natural, whole foods require no marketing. You pay a premium for a company to adorn a product with glitz, glamour, and appeal. Repackage Cocoa Puffs as chocolate flavored, round overly-processed wheat flour, sans marketing spin, and what is left? Processed foods are?intentionally?addictive. They are added to, modified, high-fructose corn syruped, etc. to increase desirability, but also create addiction. Eliminate them just as a smoker eliminates cigarettes.

--A corollary to the above issue: purchase foods that appear as if you had grown it or raised it yourself. If you were to grow corn in your backyard garden, you would eat it on the cob or some similar way. You would not grind it, pulverize, process it, nor serve it as cornstarch and add to a pile of chemicals to make breakfast cereal. Eat foods in their natural state, not the highly processed food-product that requires a colorful package and advertising to sell.

--Don’t keep bags of chips, boxes of breakfast cereal and crackers, frozen dinners, all “just in case.” Don’t allow yourself that opportunity because you will more than likely seize it. An alcoholic who keeps a secret bottle of gin hidden in the cabinet is well aware that it’s there and will eventually give in to impulse.

--When you eat meat, try to find free-range, organic products. Even better, purchase from a local producer who you trust.

--For anyone with patterns like low HDL, small LDL, high triglycerides, and blood sugar >100 mg/dl, following a diet that is as free of wheat products as possible will yield enormous benefits. Wheat is a part of all breads, virtually all breakfast cereals, pretzels, crackers, bagels, cookies, cupcakes, pancakes, waffles, etc. Going wheat-free is also a surprisingly effective weight loss strategy.

That’s just a few thoughts. The approach we use in the Track Your Plaque program helps achieve weight loss, but also helps correct lipoprotein patterns, often dramatically.

Many diets have failed to keep pace with the changing nutritional habits of Americans. In 1960, we ingested close to zero high-fructose corn syrup. We’re now approaching 80 lbs per year per American. Breakfast cereal in 1950 consisted of a handful of products, eaten intermittently; today, it is a staple with enough products to fill a modern supermarket’s entire aisle. Meats have changed, thanks to the factory farm phenomenon feeding its animals corn in inhumanely restricted conditions, a dietary shift for livestock that has modified the fat composition to something far different than 50 years ago, not to mention the antibiotics and other chemicals used to accelerate growth and fight off infection from the artificial, overcrowded conditions.

The American nutritional shift, along with rampant obesity, have also caused a relatively new cause of coronary heart disease to explode: small LDL particles. The contribution of small LDL has been enormously underestimated, since most physicians don’t know what it is, don’t know how to check for it, and don’t know what to do with it. Yet it has emerged as the number one cause for heart attack and heart disease nationwide.

Stay tuned for our rewritten New Track Your Plaque diet to be released as a Special Report on the www.cureality.com website in future.

Dr. Jarvik, is niacin as bad as it sounds?

A popular health newsletter, Everyday Health, carried this headline:

A Cholesterol-Busting Vitamin?

Did you know that niacin, one of the B vitamins, is also a potent cholesterol fighter?
Find out how niacin can help reduce choleseterol.


At doses way above the Recommended Dietary Allowance — say 1,000–2,500 mg a day (1–2.5 grams) — crystalline nicotinic acid acts as a drug instead of a vitamin. It can reduce total cholesterol levels by up to 25%, lowering LDL and raising HDL levels, and can rapidly lower the blood level of triglycerides. It does so by reducing the liver’s production of VLDL, which is ordinarily converted into LDL.


I'd agree with that, except that it is rare to require doses higher than 1000-1500 mg per day unless you are treating lipoprotein(a) and using niacin as a tool for dramatic drops in LDL. But for just raising HDL, shifting HDL into the healthy large class, reducing small LDL, and for reduction of heart attack risk, 1000-1500 mg is usually sufficient; taking more yields little or no further effect.

But after that positive comment comes this:

Niacin is safe — except in people with chronic liver disease or certain other conditions, including diabetes and peptic ulcer. . . However, it has numerous side effects. It can cause rashes and aggravate gout, diabetes, or peptic ulcers. Early in therapy, it can cause facial flushing for several minutes soon after a dose, although this response often stops after about two weeks of therapy and can be reduced by taking aspirin or ibuprofen half an hour before taking the niacin. A sustained-release preparation of niacin (Niaspan) appears to have fewer side effects, but may cause more liver function abnormalities, especially when combined with a statin.


Strange. After a headline clearly designed to pull readers in, clearly stating niacin's benefits, the article then proceeds to scare the pants off you with side-effects.

But look to the side and above the text: Ah . . . two prominent advertisements for Lipitor, complete with Dr. Robert Jarvik's photo. "I've studied the human heart for a lifetime. I trust Lipitor to keep my heart healthy."

Niacin bad. Lipitor good. Even celebrity doc says so. Sounds like bait and switch to me. "You could try niacin--if you dare. But you could also try Lipitor."

Who is Dr. Jarvik, anyway, that he serves as spokesman (or at least figurehead) for this $13 billion dollar a year drug? Of course, he is the 1982 inventor of the Jarvik artificial heart, surely an admirable accomplishment. But does that qualify him to speak about heart disease prevention and cholesterol drugs?

Jarvik has never--never--actually prescribed Lipitor, since he never completed any formal medical training beyond obtaining his Medical Doctor degree, nor has he ever had a license to practice medicine. He does, however, continue in his effort to provide artificial heart devices, principally for implantation as a "bridge" to transplantation, i.e., to sustain a patient temporarily who is dying of end-stage heart failure.

So where does his expertise in heart disease prevention come from? It's beyond me. Perhaps it was the thousands of dollars likely paid to him. That will make an "expert" out of just about anybody.

Robert Bazell, science reporter, for CNBC, made this report on the Jarvik-Lipitor connection in his March, 2007 report, Is this celebrity doctor's TV ad right for you?

Mr. Bazell writes:

On May 16, 1988, an editorial in the New York Times dubbed the artificial heart experiments, “The Dracula of Medical Technology.”

“The crude machines,” it continued, “with their noisy pumps, simply wore out the human body and spirit.”

Since then, in a series of start-up companies, Jarvik has continued his quest to make an artificial heart — as have several other firms. One competitor recently won FDA approval to sell its device for implantation in extreme emergencies.

Perhaps Jarvik’s chances of success with another artificial heart account for his willingness to serve as pitchman for Pfizer. I inquired, without success, to find the going rate for a semi- celebrity like Jarvik to appear in such ads. Thomaselli of Advertising Age said whatever it is, it is “infinitesimal” compared to Pfizer’s expenditures of $11 billion a year on advertising, much of it for Lipitor.

Why spend so much marketing Lipitor?

Because Lipitor is only one of six drugs in the class called statins that lower cholesterol. Many cardiologists say that for the vast majority of people any one of these drugs works just as well as the other. Two of them, Mevacor and Zocor, have already lost their patent protection so they cost pennies a day compared to $3 or more a day for Lipitor.

In 2010, when Lipitor loses its patent protection, it, too, will cost pennies a day, and Pfizer will no longer need Dr. Robert Jarvik.



So, is niacin so bad after all? Or is this Everyday Health report just another clever piece of advertising for Pfizer?

Is niacin as bad as it sounds?

A popular health newsletter, Everyday Health, carried this headline:

A Cholesterol-Busting Vitamin?

Did you know that niacin, one of the B vitamins, is also a potent cholesterol fighter?
Find out how niacin can help reduce choleseterol.


At doses way above the Recommended Dietary Allowance — say 1,000–2,500 mg a day (1–2.5 grams) — crystalline nicotinic acid acts as a drug instead of a vitamin. It can reduce total cholesterol levels by up to 25%, lowering LDL and raising HDL levels, and can rapidly lower the blood level of triglycerides. It does so by reducing the liver’s production of VLDL, which is ordinarily converted into LDL.


I'd agree with that, except that it is rare to require doses higher than 1000-1500 mg per day unless you are treating lipoprotein(a) and using niacin as a tool for dramatic drops in LDL. But for just raising HDL, shifting HDL into the healthy large class, reducing small LDL, and for reduction of heart attack risk, 1000-1500 mg is usually sufficient; taking more yields little or no further effect.

But after that positive comment comes this:

Niacin is safe — except in people with chronic liver disease or certain other conditions, including diabetes and peptic ulcer. . . However, it has numerous side effects. It can cause rashes and aggravate gout, diabetes, or peptic ulcers. Early in therapy, it can cause facial flushing for several minutes soon after a dose, although this response often stops after about two weeks of therapy and can be reduced by taking aspirin or ibuprofen half an hour before taking the niacin. A sustained-release preparation of niacin (Niaspan) appears to have fewer side effects, but may cause more liver function abnormalities, especially when combined with a statin.


Strange. After a headline clearly designed to pull readers in, clearly stating niacin's benefits, the article then proceeds to share the pants off you with side-effects.

But look to the side and above the text: Ah . . . two prominent advertisements for Lipitor, complete with Dr. Robert Jarvik's photo. "I've studied the human heart for a lifetime. I trust Lipitor to keep my heart healthy."

Sounds like bait and switch to me. "You could try niacin--if you dare. But you could also try Lipitor."

Who is Dr. Jarvik, anyway, that he stands as the spokesman (or at least figurehead) for this $13 billion dollar a year drug. Of course, he is the 1982 inventor of the Jarvik artificial heart, surely an admirable accomplishment. But does that qualify him to speak about heart disease prevention and cholesterol drugs? Jarvik has, never actually prescribed Lipitor, since he never completed any formal medical training beyond obtaining his Medical Doctor degree, nor has he ever had a license to practice medicine. He does, however, continue in his effort to provide artificial heart devices, principally for implantation as a "bridge" to transplantation, i.e., to sustain a patient temporarily who is dying of end-stage heart failure.

So where does his expertise in heart disease prevention come from?

Omega-3 fatty acids: Frequency vs. quantity

I believe I have been observing an unexpected phenomenon: When it comes to fish oil and omega-3 fatty acids, the frequency of dosing may be as important, perhaps more important, than the actual dose.

First of all, why advocate omega-3 fatty acids from fish oil? There’s a list of lipid/lipoprotein reasons, including reduction of triglycerides and triglyceride-containing particles (VLDL, intermediate-density lipoproteins), reduction of small LDL, and increase in HDL. There’s also solid benefit in reduction of heart attack risk, reduction in death from heart attack, and reduction in stroke. There are also anti-inflammatory benefits and improvements in mood, reduction in depression.

Fish oil is a crucial ingredient in the Track Your Plaque program. I am honestly uncertain of just how much success we would give up if fish oil were NOT a part of the program, but I am unwilling to find out. The data are simply too compelling to not include omega-3 fatty acids from fish oil. Of course, supplementation of omega-3 fatty acids assumes greater importance in a modern world in which your food has become terribly depleted of the omega-3 fraction of oils. (Cultures that rely heavily on fish or wild game probably would not benefit to the same extent, since these foods contain omega-3 fatty acids.)

But I believe I have observed a curious effect over the past year or two. With the proliferation of many different preparations of fish oil that provide seemingly endless choices—low-potency fish oil, high-potency fish oil, paste forms of fish oil like Coromega, liquids such as Carlson’s, etc.¾I’ve observed that frequency of dosing may exert as much of an effect as the dose.

For example, someone might take the basic, low-potency preparation like Sam’s Club that contains 180 mg EPA and 120 mg DHA per capsule, four capsules per day. That yields a total of 1200 mg EPA and DHA per day. This is our minimum dose that provides the basic heart attack-reducing effect, though with modest effect on triglycerides and associated patterns.

Say someone switches to a high-potency preparation of 360 mg EPA and 240 mg DHA, providing a total of 600 mg omega-3 fatty acids per capsule, or twice the dose of the low-potency preparation. Would you expect double the effect?

Curiously, no. What I have observed, however, is that more frequent dosing may provide a larger effect. The least effective dosing is once per day; twice per day is far more effective. Three times per day¾though cumbersome¾provides even greater effect.

So, which is more important: dose or frequency?

I can’t say for certain, since my observations are informal and have not been obtained by a formal statistical analysis of our data. That will come with time.

For the present, suffice it to say that, if you are struggling with suppression of patterns like increased triglycerides, IDL, or low HDL, then at least twice- or three-times-per-day dosing might be worth considering, even before you increase the dose further.

Best: Greater dose, or higher-potency preparation, combined with higher frequency.
Low thyroid: What to do?

Low thyroid: What to do?

I've gotten a number of requests for solutions on how to solve the low thyroid issue if either 1) your doctor refuses to discuss the issue or denies it is present, or 2) there are government mandates against thyroid correction unless certain (outdated) targets are met.

Oh, boy.

While I'm not encouraging anyone to break the laws or regulations of their country (and it's impossible to generalize, with readers of this blog originating from over 30 countries), here are some simple steps to consider that might help you in your quest to correct hypothyroidism:

--Measure your body temperature--First thing in the morning either while lying in bed or go to the bathroom and measure your oral temp. Record it and, if it is consistently lower than 97.0 degrees (Fahrenheit), show it to your doctor. This may help persuade him/her.(You can still be hypothyroid with higher temperatures, but if low temperatures are present, it is simply more persuasive evidence in favor of treatment).

--Supplement with iodine 150 mcg per day to be sure you are not iodine deficient. This is becoming more common in the U.S. as people avoid iodized salt. It is quite common outside the U.S. An easy, inexpensive preparation is kelp tablets.

--Show your doctor a recent crucial study: The HUNT Study that suggests that cardiovascular mortality begins to increase at a TSH of only 1.5 or greater, not the 5.5 mIU usually used by laboratories and doctors.

--Ask people around you whether they are aware of a health practitioner who might be willing to work with you, or at least have an open mind (sadly, an uncommon commodity).

Also, see thyroid advocate and prolific author, Mary Shomon's advice on how to find a doctor willing to work with you. Yes, they are out there, but you may have to ask a lot of friends and acquaintances, or meet and fire a lot of docs. It shouldn't be this way, but it is. It will change through public pressure and education, but not by next week.

Another helpful discussion from Mary Shomon: The TSH Normal Range: Why is there still controversy? You will read that even the endocrinologists (a peculiarly contentious group) seethingly debate what constitutes normal vs. low thyroid function.

Also, you might remind a resistant health practitioner that guidelines are guidelines--they are not laws that restrain anyone. They are simply meant to represent broad population guidelines that do not take your personal health situation into consideration.

Comments (25) -

  • P

    2/8/2009 5:24:00 PM |

    How about acupuncture and chinese medicine? Anecdotally, they will be able to help you through monitored use of chinese herbs and acupuncture.

  • Anna

    2/8/2009 5:49:00 PM |

    I'd also like to add that if one can't get good thyroid care inside an HMO network or "universal" healthcare system, it can be money well spent to go "outside" the system  for private care.  Granted, paying for non-reimbursable care isn't cheap and one has to do a lot of investigating to make sure one isn't paying for more of the same inadequate care (or worse care).  But I think too many people who can afford to pay for private care suffer needlessly by doggedly sticking to inadequate care because alternatives cause a financial dent.  But in the long run, if one can find good care even though there is added expense, it can save a tremendous amount of suffering, as well as saving money.

    When I was seeing a thyroid doc out of my HMO network, I was still able to get my lab work done by the HMO approved lab  and covered by my HMO insurance (the lab faxed the results to the out-of state doc without question), though the results did go into the computerized file at my HMO network, so was visible to any HMO doc.  And my HMO insurance Rx plan covered the conventional meds prescribed by the out-of-network doc without question (but not the compounded Rx).  Yes, it cost me a few hundred dollars a year to see the doc once year, a few telephone consults, and the non-covered compounded Rx, but it well worth it.  I was finally feeling and functioning better.

    And when I went back to my HMO eventually (mostly because of travel scheduling difficulties in seeing the out-of-state doc), I was in a better position to make a case for similar care with the HMO endo (I told him flat out I'd had trouble getting good thyroid care from primary care physicians in the HMO and so went "private" for a couple years, but wanted to find someone local in the HMO for convenience) .  He doesn't do compounded Rx, and typically prescribes only Synthroid, but he accepted that I prefered T3 with the T4 (and he "accepted" the "odd" way I adjust my T4 dose with different amounts of 50 mcg Levoxyl on different days to get an overall weekly dose that works - the 50 mcg tablet has no dyes added and he accepted that I preferred Levoxyl over Synthroid).  So for the first time with the HMO system, I feel my thyroid care is more of a team effort that includes my input, instead of being at the mercy of whatever is dished out to me.  And if the situation changes, I will promptly go outside the HMO again.

  • Nameless

    2/8/2009 6:27:00 PM |

    I would also suggest using the Armour site to look for prescriber's.  Their site has a little 'doctor finder' feature.

    It doesn't mean they'll necessarily treat you, but they tend to be more open-minded that doctors who prescribe Synthroid only.

    Most doctors won't use body temperature as a guide, by the way. And most won't treat Hashimoto's unless your TSH is >5. I know it's wrong, but that's how it is.

    Supplementing iodine may be helpful, unless you do have Hashimoto's, then it could make it worse (so you know). But you won't know you have Hashimoto's until you get your thyroid antibodies tested.

    A couple of other suggestions:

    Ask your doctor for Free T3/T4 AND thyroid antibodies. If your TSH >3 and your anitbodies are high, it really improves your odds of getting treatment. Many doctors ignore antibodies, but some do pay attention to them.

    If your TSH or antibodies are high at all, ask your doctor for a thyroid ultrasound. If the ultrasound is abnormal at all, it improves your odds of getting treatment too.

    Just going to a doctor with a TSH of 1.5-2.0 and normal T3/T4, it'd probably be close to impossible to get treatment. It really helps if you have the antibodies or ultrasound or something else to show the doctor.

  • Anonymous

    2/9/2009 6:33:00 AM |

    No person should break the law.

    However, there might be people within the arctic circle who don't have easy access to a physician who is willing to prescribe natural thyroid, including armour thyroid.

    What to do in a situation like that?

    One solution:  Find a site on the internet that provides for ordering and shipping thyroid, including Armour Thyroid, without a prescription.  There is at least one site that can be found via google that will do this.

    Warning:  There are significant dangers in supplementing thyroid without being under a doctors care.

  • Dr. William Davis

    2/9/2009 12:50:00 PM |

    Thanks, Anna.

  • Anonymous

    2/9/2009 6:13:00 PM |

    Regarding the thyroid issues Dr. Davis has been commenting on lately, and wondering why it seems so prevalent, have you considered the possibility that diet is playing a role.

    And when I say diet, it's probably not in the way you think --

    Carbohydrate restriction can lower thyroid hormone output, especially conversion of T4 to T3. Those who practice caloric restriction tend to have lower levels of T3 too.

    If Dr. Davis is seeing somewhat low, but still in 'normal' range T3/T4, with perhaps sluggish T3 levels, in patients AFTER they change to a no wheat, low carb diet, perhaps that is the reason why? Or perhaps that's why Dr. Davis' own thyroid had somewhat sluggish numbers?

    But if people all have high thyroid antibodies too, or all have crummy thyroid levels while eating tons of carbs, that wouldn't be a reason then.

    Just throwing that out there to think about.

  • Don

    2/9/2009 6:49:00 PM |

    for those who are willing to do the research and check their tsh levels then ordering online is an option. start with a low dose 15 to 30 grains and then ck your tsh. Increase dose to normnal tsh levels.  There are multiple sites for armour and synthoid that do not require a prescription. When you take this road to self medication you must realize you are toally responsible for your actions and well being. Be sure you know what you are doing
    Don

  • Anna

    2/9/2009 8:14:00 PM |

    Lately I've been giving a lot of thought to the LC packaged foods that many people turn to when they first embark on a LC diet, such as low carb breads, crackers, etc.  For me, it was LC pita bread a few years ago, before I essentially went grain-free.  These products, in addition to usually having a lot of soy in them, also have added wheat gluten, to reduce the starch and boost the protein content.  Low carb they are, and generally will help with the BG control and overall weight reduction or maintenance.

    Both gluten-containing and soy foods are relatively new foods to the human diet (only consumed since the age of agriculture) and modern industrial processing bypasses many of the steps that earlier humans took to render them safer to consume.  Soy can be a powerful thyroid inhibitor (goitrogen)  and gluten can trigger an auto-immune response in susceptible people (genetic predisposition to gluten sensitivity is much more common than previously thought, though how widespread is subject to debate).  There does seem to be a strong connection to autoimmune thyroid conditions and issues with gluten.

    So people who eat a lot of soy and gluten-enhanced LC foods might be literally be shooting themselves in the thyroid, especially those who overconsume  consume them (dieters don't ever become overzealous, do they?  Smile), instead of foods that are naturally low carb and/or have a longer history in the human diet.

  • Anonymous

    2/9/2009 8:18:00 PM |

    I think ordering prescription medication over the internet from a less than reputable pharmacy, without a prescription, is a real bad idea. And if they don't require a prescription, that pretty much automatically makes them less than reputable.

    And don't assume thyroid medications are completely benign. They can have side effects too.
    And especially in patients with heart disease. You have to be titrated slowly and need to be under a doctor's care.

  • Lou

    2/10/2009 8:28:00 AM |

    DIY Armour/NTH treatments can be troublesome. If you are suffering from adrenal fatigue, starting immediately on thyroid replacement can cause heart palpitations and other symptoms of physical and mental anxiety. If you have low cortisol and DHEA (they invariably go together), you will probably need to take a low-dose steroid and/or DHEA replacement for a month before beginning thyroid. It is best to get these things tested first, even if you have to do it on your own. I think the Stop The Thyroid Madness author has put together some lab test packages for people to get the right things tested. And when you're taking the replacement steroids and hormones, you need to keep monitoring your levels every month at first, then every three-four months once you stabilise.

    Google for the "Top Thyroid Docs" list by Mary Shomon for sympathetic doctor suggestions/review.

  • Lou

    2/10/2009 8:33:00 AM |

    I forgot to add, the thyroid books by Dr Broda Barnes are good reading, easy to understand if you're a layman too. He had one on incidence of heart disease in patients with corrected thyroid function which is very interesting. I don't recall he mentioned wheat, but he certainly believed that we should eat good old saturated fats like butter, lard, coconut, etc, to support good health and thyroid.

  • Trinkwasser

    2/10/2009 1:19:00 PM |

    Anecdotally along with the iodine I've heard a brazil nut per day suggested for the selenium. Where I live is not selenium deficient, thanks to the end of the Ice Age glaciation: this is reputed to be one reason for the longevity here. Next time I catch a doctor I'll ask if there's much thyroid disease here (they will diagnose and treat here, my TSH was 0.99 so something is working!)

  • Anonymous

    2/10/2009 1:40:00 PM |

    That iodine dose may still be too low. Remember the RDA was set at a level just to prevent goiter, not for optimal health. Check out www.breastcancerchoices.org.
    Healthy Japanese get 12.5mg (12500 mcg) of iodine per day. Probably we are all low in iodine and bromine competes for binding sites. Bromine is ubiquitous in our chemically laden environment and is used as a dough conditioner by commercial bakeries---they used to use iodine. The thyroid gets the bulk of our low iodine but it turns out that iodine is also concentrated in our gonads, adrenals and especially the breasts. Our epidemic of breast cancer and fibrocystic disease may be due to iodine deficiency.

  • Saint Patrick

    2/10/2009 5:46:00 PM |

    If you cannot get this treatment on HMO, then you should look at going private. Believe me, it is not something that you can ignore

  • Eichler

    2/10/2009 7:52:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    I realize that you aren't in the business of diagnosing ailments or conditions via the internet, but I've recently experienced some hypothyroidism symptoms (low body temp. average of 96.7, fatigue, weight gain, hair loss, etc..) that my Doctor insists are unrelated to the disease.  In addition, he has also just put me on a combination of Crestor and Trilipix for an abnormally high triglyceride reading, despite this reading being a one-time fluke.

    My labs are as follows:
    TSH:       2.761
    Thyroxine (T4): 6.4

    He was not interested in doing any more thyroid testing beyond these two.

    Lipids:
    Total Cholesterol: 165
    Triglycerides:     415
    HDL:               22
    LDL:               N/A

    After a week on the Crestor (10mg) / Trilipx (135mg) combo, I was stricken with muscle aches and pains, tinnitus, popping ears, dizziness and a foggy out-of-it feeling.  After two weeks and finding your site, I discontinued the use of the two cholesterol medications against the Doctor's advice.  I've since starting taking an Omega 3-6-9 supplement three times daily along with my daily multi-vitamin.  I also take diazide/HCTZ for slightly elevated BP (130/96) and have recently begun following a strick low-carb diet and exercise routine.

    Again, I don't expect a diagnosis from you, but would appreciate if if you could voice your thoughts on the viability of me continuing to find a doctor willing to be more open minded to thyroid issues as well as pursuing more natural remedies to lipid issues.  

    Thanks for providing such a valuable resource for those of us who are getting fed up with the flawed standard of care that is currently being forced on so many people.



    My labs show the following.

  • Dr. William Davis

    2/10/2009 9:13:00 PM |

    I agree on the iodine dose question.

    The difficulty comes in trying to generate conversation through the blog for people who may or may not, for instance, have underlying Hashimoto's thyroiditis or thyroid nodules, in which case taking higher doses of iodine can trigger extreme excesses of thyroid hormone.

  • Anonymous

    2/10/2009 10:14:00 PM |

    I had been on Sythyroid for a few years but no one had ever mentioned or tested for Hashimoto's. Still feeling horrible, I found a holistic MD, and was diagnosed with Hashimoto's and started on Armour.
    Do I still have Hashimoto's or is it quiet now that I am taking a different hormone?
    The holistic said it would "kill" my thyroid and move on to another area, like adrenals.
    I did have a positive ANA for many years and tested for Lupus, RA, etc. many times. Then routine testing showed my ANA had returned to normal values.  
    Any ideas because my current endo. sure isn't forthcoming with any and doesn't/hasn't tested for antibodies.  He feels I am just hypothyroid.
    I appreciate all your information!

  • Nameless

    2/11/2009 5:20:00 AM |

    To test for Hashimoto's you need your TPO and TGAB antibodies tested. If they are above normal range, you probably have it. The definitive diagnosis is via a biopsy, but without a nodule that isn't usually done. An ultrasound is another diagnostic tool -- if your thyroid looks enlarged, nodular or all lumpy, along with antibodies, it's pretty safe to say you have Hashimoto's.

    I have never read, or heard of, Hashimoto's 'attacking' other organs after your thyroid is burnt out. That theory seems a bit out there to me.

    Antibodies can fluctuate, and with thyroid hormones usually become lower over time.  Inflammation tends to be reduces with hormones too.

  • Trinkwasser

    2/11/2009 4:13:00 PM |

    OK I caught one of our GPs yesterday, the selenium in the soil connection appears to be a non-starter. Her experience was that she found hypothyroid "quite often" predominantly in post-menopausal women and with incidence increasing with age. It's impossible to compare numbers with other areas since they actively look for the condition here and don't elsewhere. Also we have a lot of local longevity so more patients with systems wearing out purely through ageing.

  • Anna

    2/14/2009 12:27:00 AM |

    I always wonder about something I hear frequently - the issue of "soil mineral depletion".  Not that it isn't possible, but how significant is this and how widespread?  People don't generally eat "locally" produced food anymore; food supplies are distributed from all over the globe now, though agriculture is quite intense in some places, like the Central Valley of California, or cornfield in Iowa.  Wouldn't the shipping of food products all over sort of "average out" the minerals like iodine and selenium?  Or are  all the major agricultural regions of the world growing with depleted soil propped up with little more than NPK replacement?  

    I'm actually more into local, seasonal organic food than worldwide food.  LIving near the coast, presumably there is adequate iodine in the soil, but here I am, hypothyroid anyway.  Just wondering...

  • Trinkwasser

    2/15/2009 3:47:00 PM |

    Hard to tell about the soil mineral depletion thing, there are major regional variations which can show in animal diseases and require supplementation, salt licks etc. as well as human disease clusters. Deficiencies can show before "deficiency diseases"

    I trialled several different supplements but none of them made any discernible difference, probably a widely varying diet helps, plus fish, and local farmers who use high levels of organic manure and feed the soil as a whole rather than (increasingly expensive) stuff out of a bag and treat the soil as a sterile growing medium. Grass-fed rather than grain-fed meat, and game, probably helps too in picking up trace elements

    The downside of World Trade may be that while you get more trace elements from crops from different regions you are probably also getting more pesticides some of which are banned in the West

  • roaminghermit

    2/20/2009 8:35:00 PM |

    I've been doing so great after taking 1 1/2 gr nature-Throid brand of thyroid since october 08 and stopping all statins. Taking the Now D-3 at 5,000 per softgel. Now if I can just get back in the forums again....LOL   Dennis  still no 4th heart attack since 12/04

  • Laura

    3/14/2009 6:44:00 PM |

    I wish my family doctor was open to new things. I asked him about Armour thyroid he said that he has hundreds of patients on Synthroid with no problems and I don't want to start a new prescription without my family doctor knowing about it. I'm on 75mcg of Synthroid and would really like to try Armour thyroid...might have to wait until he retires (could be soon) before I see if I can get Armour..

  • Jessica

    5/8/2009 1:23:00 AM |

    Dr. Brownstein (Family physician, holistic doc in Michigan) in his book, "Iodine, Why You need it, Why You can't live without it" makes an interesting case for temporarily increased TSH (5-30mU/L higher) after correcting iodine deficiency.

    In addition to just stimulating thyroid hormone production, TSH also increases the production of the iodine transport cells (NIS). Without more NIS available, iodine couldn't enter the cells and be utilized. Therefore, increased TSH makes sense during the initial phase of iodine correction.

    As one increases their iodine consumption, they could experience this increase in TSH for as long as several months. As long as the T3 and T4 levels are normal, then the TSH elevation probably isn't a sign of hypothyroidism.

    If you haven't yet read this book, it's worth the 2 hours it took me to get through it.

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