Magnesium and you-Part II

Blood magnesium levels are a poor barometer for true body (intracellular) magnesium.

Only 1% of the body’s magnesium is in the blood, the remaining 99% stored in various body tissues, particularly bone and muscle. If blood magnesium is low, cellular magnesium levels are indeed low—very low.

If blood magnesium is normal, cellular or tissue levels of magnesium may still be low. Unfortunately, tissue magnesium levels are not easy to obtain in living, breathing humans. In all practicality, a blood magnesium test only helps if it’s low, while normal levels don’t necessarily mean anything and may provide false reassurance.

Short of performing a biopsy to measure tissue magnesium levels, several signs provide a tip-off that magnesium may be low:

Heart arrhythmias—Having any sort of heart rhythm disorder should cause you to question whether magnesium levels in your body are adequate, since low magnesium levels trigger abnormal heart rhythms. In fact, in the hospital we give intravenous magnesium to quiet down abnormal rhythms.
Low potassium— Low magnesium commonly accompanies low potassium. Potassium is another electrolyte depleted by diuretic use and is commonly deficient in many conditions (e.g., excessive alcohol use, hypertension, loss from malabsorption or diarrhea). Like magnesium, potassium may not be fully replenished by modern diets.
Muscle cramps— Magnesium regulates muscle contraction. Leg cramps, or “charlie-horses”, painful vise-like cramps in calves, fingers, or other muscles, are a common symptom of magnesium deficiency. (Leg cramps that occur with physical activity, such as walking, are usually due to atherosclerotic blockages in the leg or abdominal arteries, not low magnesium.)
Migraine headaches—Reflective of magnesium’s role in regulating blood vessel tone, low magnesium can trigger vascular spasm in the blood vessels of the brain. In some emergency rooms, they will actually administer intravenous magnesium to break a migraine.
• Metabolic syndrome—Magnesium plays a fundamental role in regulating insulin responses. Metabolic syndrome (low HDL, high triglycerides, small LDL, high blood pressure, increased blood sugar, excessive abdominal fat, etc.) is triggered by insulin responses gone awry and is clearly linked to low magnesium levels.

The absence of any of these tell-tale signs does not necessarily mean that tissue levels of magnesium are normal.

Then how do you really know? There really is no easy, available method to gauge body magnesium. As a practical solution, we therefore have aimed for maintaining serum levels of >2.1 mg/dl or RBC magnesium (a surrogate for tissue levels) of >6.0 mg/dl. (Going too high is not good either, so occasional monitoring really helps. However, I've only seen this once in a psychotic woman who drank ungodly amounts of magnesium-containing antacids for no apparent reason; she almost ended up on a respirator due to respiratory suppression by the magnesium level of 11 mg/dl!)

In all practicality, because of magnesium’s crucial role in health, its widespread deficiency in Americans, and the growing depletion of magnesium in water, supplemental magnesium is necessary for nearly everyone to ensure healthy levels.

More on magnesium to come.

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  • Jenny

    5/25/2009 1:49:21 PM |

    Most of the symptoms you describe will start to occur in people who did not have them before, if they embark on rigid low carb diets--20 grams a day or less.

    This is another reason why, though it isn't fashionable, it is healthier to cut carbs gradually, a meal at a time, rather than all at once in a way that causes a diuretic crisis.

    But dieters like the extreme method as they lose up to 10 lbs the first week of the extreme low carb diets and feel like they accomplished something. Of course, it all comes back the day they eat one meal with carbs.

  • mrezzu

    5/25/2009 3:43:38 PM |

    Though magnesium is deficient in most of the Americans ,I don't think that supplementary magnesium can be recommended for everybody. It should be given with caution , taking its side effects into consideration. Fruits that are rich in magnesium should be recommended indiscriminately.

  • Ed

    5/25/2009 10:17:25 PM |

    To paraphrase what you are saying:

    1) If blood magnesium is low, then tissue magnesium is low

    2) If blood magnesium is normal, then tissue magnesium is either low or normal

    3) If blood magnesium is high, then tissue magnesium is high.

    If I am paraphrasing you correctly, then it sounds like what you could do is supplement magnesium until blood levels go high, then back off.

    Does ZRT offer a magnesium test? Searching the site, it looks like it doesn't. Sounds like this may be tough as a DIY project.

    The US RDA for magnesium is 400mg/day. Is that enough? How the heck would you get 400mg/day of magnesium in water. I probably drink 2-4 cups of water/day. That sounds like a lot of dissolved magnesium. I'm no expert though...

    Do lectins (from grains or legumes) bind magnesium? A cursory google search suggests "yes."

  • Nameless

    5/26/2009 3:51:30 AM |

    Interesting that Dr. Davis mentions specific RBC values to shoot for, as I was always unsure what was optimal. My own value came back at 5.3, so maybe I should take a bit more magnesium.

    General questions:

    Have you noticed improved lipids in any of your patients once they reached 6.0+  magnesium RBC?

    Besides calcium possibly being not absorbed as well, are there any other mineral concerns when taking magnesium?

    What form of magnesium do you recommend?

    And are there any intracelluar mag tests, or other magnesium tests that show greater accuracy? I have read a mag loading test is actually the most accurate, but it sounds like a major pain to get done.

  • Tim TerlegÃ¥rd

    5/26/2009 8:12:17 AM |

    What do you think about hair mineral analysis? Is it of no use at all or is it just bad for measuring magnesium?

    I had a hair mineral analysis once. It showed I had normal levels of everything. I'm pretty sure I had low levels of zinc though, because my atopic dermatitis vanished when supplementing with zinc.

  • Dr. William Davis

    5/26/2009 11:47:37 AM |

    Yes, Ed. Well said.

    No, ZRT does not offer a test for magnesium presently.

    A discussion of how much and what form to come in future.

  • SnowDog

    5/26/2009 12:46:12 PM |

    Jenny, I disagree. I've been eating less than 20gs carbs per day for 9 months, and feel better than I have in my entire life. I've also lost 60 lbs. That certainly won't come back with one high-carb meal. I had been trying to lose weight for 20 years, and was amazed at how rapidly weight dropped when I cut back on the carbs.

  • ethyl d

    5/26/2009 5:16:31 PM |

    I had the interesting experience of adding a magnesium supplement last year, just to see if doing so improved how I feel, and I got episodes of tachycardia after I started it. I stopped taking it, the rapid heart beats stopped, and then I tried magnesium tablets a few months later again, with the racing heart beats coming back. So no magnesium supplements for me.

  • Anonymous

    5/26/2009 6:03:28 PM |

    there is a controversy how best to get the body use of magnesium ,most agree that magnesium , glyconate/citrate is the best form ,other believe to use only a topical form on the skin rather then a capsule ,does anybody have expiriance in comparison one over the other?

  • Nameless

    5/27/2009 2:19:02 AM |

    From what I've read, the glycinate (Albion) form is one of the best, with Biotron (soy/rice chelate) in the same ballpark. Orotate is also considered very good.

    Malate/Taurate is considered decent too. And then Citrate. Citrate is very affordable, but I have some concern there regarding increased aluminum absorption, as shown by  some studies testing calcium citrate.

    And I really doubt much magnesium  would be absorbed topically.

  • Leslie

    5/27/2009 4:15:14 PM |

    @ Nameless:  Of course it's absorbed through the skin, that's the benefit of an Epsom Salt bath.

  • Nameless

    5/27/2009 11:17:51 PM |

    There is probably some magnesium absorption through the skin, yes, but oral supplements would give better results (at least to be best of my knowledge).

    Here is an epsom salt study --

    http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.org/articles/Report_on_Absorption_of_magnesium_sulfate.pdf

    Which showed greater absorption than I expected. Although it was sponsored by the epsom salt council, so perhaps take the study with a grain of salt...

  • Hennie

    5/28/2009 5:21:28 AM |

    Thanks Dr. Davis for your insight on this important subject of magnesium.  
    There is an old, very interesting book that was published in the early 1950's by well known biochemist and farmer, Andre Voisin.  He taught veterinary science in France and was an expert in soil, health and nutrition.  The book is about magnesium deficiency in cattle.  The title is Grass Tetany and the entire book can be read free online. http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010106voisin/010106gttoc.html
    I found this book to be fascinating and wonder how this compares to humans.
    For example I read  in chapter 15“Magnesium deficiency leads to deposits of calcium in the various tissues: heart, liver, kidney, etc.”  http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010106voisin/010106gtchap15.html

    Another excellent book is by Dr. Jonathan V. Wright, M.D. “Why Stomach Acid is Good for You.”  Without sufficient stomach acid minerals and other nutrients cannot be optimally utilized. This can be a problem as we age.

  • Anonymous

    5/28/2009 12:23:25 PM |

    Tissue magnesium levels can be measured in RBCs. Just order an RBC magnesium level. It can be done through Quest, doesn't even need to be a specialty lab.

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    11/3/2010 7:36:30 PM |

    In all practicality, because of magnesium’s crucial role in health, its widespread deficiency in Americans, and the growing depletion of magnesium in water, supplemental magnesium is necessary for nearly everyone to ensure healthy levels.

  • Joan

    11/29/2011 7:48:37 PM |

    I'm 6 weeks into no wheat and basically have gone low carb (no wheat, very little corn, rice, potatoes).  I'm increasingly getting more and more migraine auras, almost on a daily basis.  In the past I would have a migraine maybe once a year.  I've started supplementing with Mg-L-threonate which helps.  My question is - how much?  Should I go to my doctor and have all of my electrolytes checked?  Thanks.

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"I told my cardiologst that I stumbled on a program called 'Track Your Plaque' that claims to be able to help reduce your coronary calcium score.

"My cardiologist said, 'That's impossible. You cannot reduce coronary plaque. I've never seen anyone reduce a heart scan score."

Who's right here?

The commenter is right; the cardiologist is wrong.

I would predict that the cardiologist is among the conventionally-thinking, "statins drugs are the only solution" group who follows his patients over the years to determine when a procedure is finally "needed." In fact, I know many of these cardiologists personally. The primary care physicians are completely in the dark, usually expressing an attitude of helplessness and submitting to the "wisdom" of their cardiology consultants.

Quantify and work to reduce the atherosclerotic plaque? No way! That's work, requires thinking, some sophisticated testing (like lipoprotein testing), even some new ideas like vitamin D. "They didn't teach that to me in medical school (back in 1980)!"

Welcome to the new age.

Atherosclerotic plaque is 1) measurable, 2) trackable, and 3) can be reduced.

We do it all the time. (Amy still holds our record: 63% reduction in plaque/heart scan score.)

Though I pooh-pooh the value of statin drug studies, there's even data from the conventional statin world documenting coronary plaque reversal. The ASTEROID Trial of rosuvastatin (Crestor), 40 mg per day for one year, demonstrated 7% reduction of atherosclerotic plaque using intracoronary ultrasound.

I have NEVER seen a heart attack or appearance of heart symptoms (angina, unstable angina) in a person who has reversed coronary plaque (unless, of course, they pitched the whole effort and returned to bad habits--that has happened). Stick to the program and coronary risk, for all practical purposes, been eliminated.

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Comments (9) -

  • Angela

    5/10/2009 3:17:00 PM |

    "They didn't teach that to me in medical school (back in 1980)!"

    Unfortunately vitamin d is not mentioned in med school nowadays except for osteoporosis prevention...

    Dr. Davis -- thank you for your blog. I am a med student interested in REAL evidence based medicine (which makes me a bit unpopular between my teachers).

    I researched vitamin D after reading your blog, and decided to mega-dose on it. It's been 4 weeks now and my "inespecified mood disorder" (never met criteria for depression, but have never been really "well" since I was 16) is GONE. Like a "veil" has fallen or something. PMS is gone as well.Now I have discovered that the periods of my life in which I felt truly well were when I spent outside most of the day (I live in the mediterranean coast).

    I also had a single attack of MS some years ago, so vitamin D will help to prevent full blown multiple sclerosis.

    My comment is in no way related with atherosclerosis, but I just wanted to thank you, and congratulate you for having found a way to help people outside conventional medicine. I feel greatly inspired by your work.

    Regards,

    Angela Nicolas

  • antidrugrep

    5/10/2009 7:59:00 PM |

    "primary care physicians are completely in the dark"

    For the record, we aren't ALL in the dark. In fact, I stumbled across your website a few years ago as I was looking for supportive testimony from other practitioners who saw things clearly. In fact, I watched as you "caught up" with the idea of adding Vitamin K2 to your regimen - presumably based on the results of the 2004 Rotterdam Study.

    I hate to sound defensive, but such a sweeping generalization is uncharacteristically irrational of your posts up to now. Perhaps you haven't known any primary care "grunts" without a cranial suppository.

    Now you know at least one.

  • Kismet

    5/10/2009 9:43:00 PM |

    I guess it's just a matter of time until someone breaks the record again?

    I know you have talked highly of vitamin K2, I'm wondering if you've made it a staple of the TYP program already? I think there's all reason to do so.
    Below two studies using high doses of K1, but it should work via conversion to K2 (the epidemiology of K2 hints at the same phenomenon).

    Am J Clin Nutr. 2009 Apr 22. [Epub ahead of print]
    Vitamin K supplementation and progression of coronary artery calcium in older men and women.
    Shea MK, O'Donnell CJ, Hoffmann U, Dallal GE, Dawson-Hughes B, Ordovas JM, Price PA, Williamson MK, Booth SL.

    One of THE most impressive studies I've ever read:
    Thromb Haemost. 2004 Feb;91(2):373-80.
    Beneficial effects of vitamins D and K on the elastic properties of the vessel wall in postmenopausal women: a follow-up study.
    Braam LA, Hoeks AP, Brouns F, Hamulyák K, Gerichhausen MJ, Vermeer C.

  • pmpctek

    5/11/2009 4:10:00 AM |

    Over the last year, I have seen about a dozen physicians (for a reason other than heart disease).

    Be they a GP, cardiologist, pulmonologist, oncologist, or hematologist, they all tell me the same thing; we all "naturally" develop coronary plague as we age and that it can only be minimally "managed" by lowering our cholesterol with -insert your statin drug here.

    Every time I reply with; there is nothing natural about having calcified plaque build up in our coronary arteries at any age and that it can be very effectively managed by following Dr. Davis' "Track Your Plaque" protocol. (As I pull out your book to show them.)

    The physician then usually looks at me like I have two heads and dismisses me by standing up to signal that the visit is over.  Except for one physician, honestly, who responded by reaching for his script pad and saying that he would like to start me on an antidepressant medication right away... lmao.

    I have now given up looking for any local physician who would be willing to help me in any way with the heart scan/track-your-plaque program.

  • Dr. William Davis

    5/12/2009 1:06:00 AM |

    Antidrugrep--

    Actually, that generalization was intended principally for the sorts of primary care docs who wouldn't read a blog like this. You are clearly the exception.

    If you had responded that most cardiologists are knuckleheads out for a buck, I would have agreed, too.

  • Dr. William Davis

    5/12/2009 1:08:00 AM |

    Kismet--

    Thanks for the references. I hadn't seen the Shea study; the findings are interesting.

    We haven't had enough people have pre-K2 and post-K2 heart scans, so it's hard to know what effect it ADDS to the existing battery of strategies. Nonetheless, K2 is definitely on the list of most promising. Given its benign nature, I do encourage people to add it, though dosing remains entirely uncertain.

  • Anonymous

    6/2/2009 1:25:26 PM |

    I seem to be developing atherosclerosis at age 26 and I've been doing a lot of research. B12 and Vitamin D are related, but you should also be aware of magnesium. See the study at Comparison of Mechanism and Functional Effects of Magnesium and Statin Pharmaceuticals. In this study they basically explain how magnesium works as a natural statin and calcium channel blocker. If you do further research online you may become convinced, as I am, that magnesium deficiency is just as widespread as Vitamin D deficiency.

    You need to take a chelated form of magnesium, such as glycinate, because other forms (like magnesium oxide) are poorly absorbed by the body and not worth the money.

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