An exercise in optimism

Followers of the Track Your Plaque program already know that maintaining an optimistic viewpoint is important in gaining control over coronary plaque.

In fact, I believe that, in many cases, a sense of optimism may make or break your CT heart scan score-reducing efforts. Pessimists rarely drop their score, while optimists do so all the time.

This week posed a challenge to my optimism. I spent the last week on jury duty hearing the details of a murder case. For four days, I listened to blow-by-blow testimony about the totally pointless, unprovoked death of a young man by a drug-dealing thug. Much of the witness testimony was from people who shared the hopeless, violent world of the defendant.

I was, however, completely impressed by the dedication of the prosecuting attorney, a 50-some year old man who was clearly deeply dedicated to his mission and didn't once provide any indication that he was grandstanding or looking for some personal glory. He was doing his job and trying to obtain justice for the fallen victim. I was equally impressed by the judge, who seemed unfazed by the events but carefully explained why the system worked the way it did. After the trial, he provided some further insights to us jury members and I saw him as a human being who, like the prosecutor, was trying to make a small contribution to making the world better.

Though many of the witnesses who testified against the defendant shared his world, I was impressed with their courage in coming forward. They face the threat of reprisals, I'm sure, for coming forward to the law and testifying against a known career criminal. Several of them said that they were not after any reward, but simply wished to do the right thing and provide testimony that proved damning against the defendant.

I acted as the jury foreman and I was proud of how the jury members listened carefully, asked intelligent and probing questions, and then helped us render a confident and expeditious sentence: guilty.

If anything, despite the tragic circumstances, I was much heartened at how all the participants in this process played their part and justice (at least in the legal sense) was served.

Let optimism prevail, even in dire circumstances.

No need to re-invent the wheel

I seem to be repeating myself lately, but I think this does bear repeating:

There's no need to re-invent the wheel when it comes to gaining control over your heart scan score.

The Track Your Plaque program is the most powerful approach known to help you gain control over your coronary atherosclerotic plaque and CT heart scan score, bar none. While 100% of people do not drop their score, more and more people every week are doing so. (One of the admitted weaknesses of the Track Your Plaque website is our failure to list more success stories; we're working on it.)

The basic program is quite simple:

--The Rule of 60 for lipids (LDL 60 mg/dl; HDL 60 mg/dl or greater; triglycerides 60 mg/dl or less)

--Identify hidden causes of plaque, esp. small LDL, Lp(a), and IDL, followed by specific corrective action

--Fish oil--minimum 1200 mg per day of EPA + DHA

--Normal vitamin D3 blood levels (We aim for 25-OH-vitamin D3 of 50-60 ng/ml)

--Normal blood sugar (<100 mg/dl)

--Normal blood pressure (<130/80)

--An optimistic attitude



Much of the other stuff--vitamin K, matrix metalloproteinase reducing strategies, flavonoid strategies, exercise-induced hypertension, etc.--are, for the majority, fluff. Their real role is in people who may have failed in stopping the rise of their heart scan score just doing the basics of the program.

If you neglect the basics, hoping to find some magic potion, I'm afraid the overwhelming likelihood is that you will fail. I've seen it happen time and again. Someone will come to my office with an extraordinary list of supplements--hawthorne, dozens of anti-oxidants, EDTA, concentrated flavonoid preparations, and on and on. Not only is it shockingly expensive to do this, it's also unnecessary and foolhardy. This kind of unfocused, hocus-pocus in the hopes of getting it right fail time after time.

The Track Your Plaque program, while not foolproof, is the best I know of. Stick to the basics and wander off when the basics fail. But there's extraordinary power in just achieving the basics.

Are we a front for drug companies?

I was shocked recently when someone accused me and the Track Your Plaque website of being nothing more than a front for the drug industry, that we are promoting concepts with the hidden pharmacuetical agenda behind us.

Don't make me laugh. How in the world that kind of impression could be gotten from either the Heart Scan Blog or the Track Your Plaque website is beyond me.

But I occasionally do need to state explicity: We do not promote drugs, neither this Blog nor the Track Your Plaque website has ever sought nor been backed by pharmaceutical money. The only money that supports this website is our own and that from paying Track Your Plaque members.

In fact, I am quite proud of the unbiased content and commentary on both venues. I challenge anyone to point out how and where there is any suggested relationship to a hidden source of commercial backing. I assure you, there is none.

If I say a drug is worth you and your doctor considering, then I say so with a true belief in it, not because somebody or some company paid me to say so. If I say a drug stinks, I believe that too. If we use a specific supplement in the program, it's because we believe it truly adds value to a plaque-reversal program. We receive no money from drug, supplement, or other commercial interests to promote their products. Period.

What is "normal"?

When it comes to laboratory values and medical testing, a common dilemma is knowing what is "normal." Let me explain.

First of all, when you receive a laboratory result for a test, a "reference range" or "normal range" is usually provided. Where did that range come from?

It varies from test to test. For instance, a low potassium is easy, because low potassium levels can lead to life threatening consequences, e.g., dangerous heart rhythms. High potassium likewise, because dangerous phenomena develop when potassium generally exceeds 5.5 mg/dl or so.

But what about something like HDL or LDL. Here's where confusion reigns. Often, "normal" is obtained by taking the average and saying that any value plus or minus two standard deviations (remember that painful class?) represents normal or reference range.

If that were true, what if we applied that principle to body weight. If we weighed several thousand adult women, the average would be in the neighborhood of 172 lbs (no kidding). Does that mean that 172 lbs plus or minus two standard deviations is normal? No, of course not.

There is therefore a distinction between "normal" and "desirable". For HDL cholesterol, your laboratory report might say that an HDL cholesterol of 40-60 mg/dl is normal. But is it desirable? I don't think so. The most frequent HDL level for a male with a heart attack is 42 mg/dl--hardly desirable.

Let's take triglycerides. The average triglyceride level in the U.S. is somewhere around 140 mg/dl. For those of us who do a lot of lipoprotein testing, we can tell you that triglycerides at this level, though generally regarded as being within the normal range, are associated with flagrant and obvious excesses of several abnormal lipoprotein particles that contribute to coronary plaque growth (VLDL and often IDL; small LDL; drop in HDL and shift towards small HDL).

So, always take the so-called "normal" or "reference" values on a lab report as crude guidelines that often have little or nothing to do with health or desirability. Unfortunately, many physicians are not aware of this and will declare any value within the normal or reference range as okay. An HDL of 40 mg is not okay. A triglyceride level of 140 mg is also not okay.

What is okay? What is desirable? That depends on the parameter being examined. From a basic lipid standpoint, of course, we regard desirable as 60-60-60. Desirability from a lipoprotein standpoint we will cover in a more thorough Track Your Plaque Special Report in future.

The wisdom of the masses

My sister sent me these quotes:



"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."

Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962


"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."

Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929


"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."

Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre, France


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."

Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, US Office of Patents, 1899



No doubt, conventional wisdom can often be laughably (tragically?) wrong. The problem is that, as absurd as all the above sentiments seem to us now and in retrospect, they represented the view of many people years ago. These views were held by many, including many people in positions of power and decision-making responsibility.

A more relevant but nonetheless laughable and widely held belief in 2007: coronary heart disease should be treated with hospital procedures.

Why is a disease that requires 30 years to develop treated only at the final moments with a procedure? Do you only change your car's oil when the engine is on its last legs? Or, do periodic, relatively effortless oil changes during the life of the car make better sense?

I witness just how brainwashed the public has become with this crazed notion when I meet someone socially at, say a fundraiser or cocktail party. When they ask what I do, I tell them I'm a cardiologist. The invariable response: "Oh, what hospital do you work out of?"

I tell them I don't, that I take care of the majority of heart disease right from the office. 99% of the time I get a puzzled look. If we had comic bubbles above our heads revealing our internal thoughts, it would read "Yeah, right. What a kook."

The notion that coronary heart disease is something that is manageable with simple tools for the majority of us in the early stages is entirely foreign to almost everybody. The hospitals and the medical industry have so succeeded in dazzling the public with images of staff in scrubs, rushing from emergency to emergency, lights flashing, scalpels flying. . . how can you possibly accomplish this at home or anywhere outside of the high-tech world of the hospital?

Well, I'm a cardiologist and I do it every day. We all need a figurative dose of electroshock therapy to shake ourselves of this crazy notion.

How important is l-arginine?

Perhaps more than any other supplement, l-arginine causes frustration and confusion. It’s difficult to find, sometimes quite expensive, and some preparations cause loose stools.

Just how necessary is it?

L-arginine, you’ll recall, is a source of nitric oxide, or NO. Though it’s the same stuff as in car exhaust, NO provides a critical signaling role in your body’s cells that regulate a multitude of functions. Among the important roles of NO is to powerfully dilate, or relax, arteries. A constant flow of NO is required for health, particularly since each molecule persists only a few seconds.

L-arginine is the body’s source of nitric oxide. In addition, a peculiar but very effective blocker of l-arginine called asymmetric dimethylarginine, or ASDM, has recently been discovered to prevent the production of NO. Varied conditions like hypertension, diabetes, high cholesterol, excessive saturated fat or processed carbohydrate intake all lead to heightened levels of ASDM, often several-fold greater levels, and thereby effectively blocking NO production.

The “Arginine Paradox” is the name that some researchers in this field have given to the unusual property of l-arginine supplementation to “overpower” the blocking effects of ASDM. This is somewhat unusual in biologic systems in that an agent that blocks a receptor cannot usually be outmuscled by providing excess material for a reaction. Kind of like hoping that your car runs faster simply by topping up the gas tank.

Concrete observable benefits have been made for l-arginine in clinical trials, such as arterial relaxation that results in arterial enlargement (which can actually be seen in the cath lab); anti-inflammatory effects; reduction of blood pressure; enhancement of insulin responses, etc. All of these effects can be connected to beneficial properties that may facilitate atherosclerotic plaque regression and, indeed, there are limited data to document that this is true.

Drug companies may be greedy, but they’re not stupid. They’ve been vigorously pursuing this line of research for some years, a research path that led inadvertently to the erectile dysfunction agent, sildenafil (Viagra), and all its subsequent competitors. (Erectile dysfunction is another expression of endothelial dysfunction, since male erections are driven by the ability to dilate penile arteries.) The wonderful properties of NO enhancement continue to occupy research labs around the world.

Wow. So what’s the reluctance? In the early years of the Track Your Plaque program (meaning just a short 7-8 years ago), I was thoroughly convinced that l-arginine was a crucial, necessary part of a plaque regression program. Without it, you would rarely succeed. With it, the odds were tipped in your favor.

However, something curious has emerged recently. I’ve seen more and more people dropping their heart scan scores. Not just a little bit, but a huge amount. Witness our most recent record holder, Neal, who dropped his score 51% in 15 months. Just five years ago, this magnitude of reversal was unimaginable. Granted, Neal is our record holder, but others are obtaining 10, 18, 24, 30% drops in scores all the time. Many have done it without l-arginine.

Now, how about the people who have failed to stop a rising score? Would they do better with l-arginine as part of the mix? I believe so, but sometimes we never quite know except in retrospect. It has been a great dilemma for us trying to predict from the starting gate who will or who won’t drop their heart scan score.

My view from the trenches is that l-arginine packs its greatest atherosclerosis-fighting punch in the first year or two of use, when “endothelial dysfunction” is likely to be present (abnormal artery constriction). But as all other strategies take hold—fish oil, correction of lipid and lipoprotein abnormalities, weight loss (big effect), vitamin D (another very big effect), etc.—endothelial behavior improves over time. Perhaps l-arginine becomes a less necessary component over time.

There’s no doubt that uncertainty still surrounds the use and science surrounding l-arginine. However, if you’re interested in stacking the odds in your favor, particularly during the first year or two of your plaque-reducing efforts, I think that l-arginine is worth considering. It is cumbersome, it can be expensive, some preparations may even be foul. But in the big picture of life, with hospitals trying every possible ploy to get your body on a table for a procedure, doctors perverting their mission by signing employment contracts with hospitals and agreeing to usher you into the hospital as a paying patient whenever possible, and drug companies viewing you and me as a market for medications which may or may not be helpful, l-arginine is surely not that big a burden.

Track Your Plaque and non-commercialism

If you're a Track Your Plaque Member or viewer, you may know that we have resisted outside commercial involvement. We do not run advertising on the site, we do not allow drug companies to post ads, we do not covertly sponsor supplements. We do this to main the unbiased content of the site.

We've seen too many sites be tempted by the money offered by a drug company only to see content gradually drift towards providing nothing more than cleverly concealed drug advertising. I personally find this deceptive and disgusting. Ads are ads and everyone knows it. But when you subvert content, secretly driven by a commercial agenda, that I find abhorrent.

That said, however, I do wonder if we need the participation of some outside commercial interests to help our members. In other words, many (over half) of the questions and conversations we have with people is about what supplement to take, or what medication to take. While we cannot offer direct medical advice online (nor should we) because of legal and ethical restrictions, I wonder if could facilitate access to products.

Many people struggle, for instance, with trusted sources for l-arginine, vitamin D, fish oil. Other people struggle with finding a heart scan center because of the changing landscape of the CT scanning industry. Could we somehow provide a clear-cut segment of the website that clearly demarcates what is commercial and non-Track Your Plaque-originated, yet at least provides a starting place for more info?

Ideally, we would have personally tried and investigated everything there is out there applicable to the program. But that's simply impossible at this stage.

I feel strongly that we will never run conventional ads on the site. Nor will we ever permit any outside commercial interest to dictate what and how we say something. The internet world is full of places like that. Look at WebMD. I find the site embarassing in the degree of commercial bias there. We will NEVER sell out like that, regardless of the temptation. People with heart disease are all conducting a war with the commercial forces working to profit from them--hospitals, cardiologists, drug companies, medical device companies (yes, even they advertise to the public, e.g., implantable defibrillators--no kidding). Genuine, honest, unbiased information is sorely needed and not from some kook who either knows nothing about real people with real disease, or has a hidden agenda like selling you chelation.

I'd welcome any feedback either through this Blog or through the contact@cureality.com.

The nattokinase scam

A conversation about vitamin K2 commonly leads to confusion. Several people have asked about something called nattokinase.

The scientific data on the potential role of vitamin K2 deficiency in causing both osteoporosis and vascular calcification is fascinating. Along with vitamin D3, vitamin K2 may be an important factor in regulation of calcium metabolism. Supplementation may prove to be a major strategy for inhibition of vascular calcification.

Obtaining K2 in the diet is tricky, since it's present in just a handful of foods: egg yolks, liver, traditional cheeses, and natto. This is where the confusion starts.

Natto is a Japanese fermented soy product. I've had it and it's quite disgusting. Nonetheless, Japanese who eat natto experience less fracture. (A parallel study in heart disease has not been performed.) Natto is also a source of another substance called nattokinase.

Advocates (otherwise often known as supplement distributors) claim that nattokinase is a "fibrinolytic", or blood clot-dissolving, preparation that "improves blood flow, protects from blood clots, and prevents heart attacks and strokes."

Don't you believe it. This is patent nonsense. There are several problems with this rationale:

--Any oral fibrinolytic agent is promptly degraded in the highly acid environment of the stomach. That's why all medically used fibrinolytics are given intravenously. Drug companies have struggled for years to encapsulate, modify, or somehow protect protein (or polypeptide) products taken orally from degrading this way. They've never succeeded. That's why, for instance, growth hormone (a polypeptide) remains an injection, not an oral agent. An oral growth hormone, by the way, would sell like mad, so the drug companies would very much like to figure out how to bypass the degradative effects of stomach acid. One of the "researchers" behind the nattokinase claims boasts that he has single-handedly figured out how to protect the nattokinase molecule in the gastrointestinal tract. However, he won't tell anybody how he does it. Right.

--Fibrinolytic agents are extremely dangerous. In years past, we used to treat heart attacks with intravenous fibrinolytic agents like tissue plasminogen activator, urokinase, streptokinase, and others. They have fallen by the wayside, for the most part, because of limited effectiveness and the unavoidable dangers of their use. Fibrinolytics are "dumb": they dissolve blood clots in both good places and bad. While they might dissolve the blood clot causing your heart attack, they also degrade the tiny clot in your cerebral (brain) circulation that was protective. That's why fatal brain hemorrhages, bleeding stomach ulcers, and blood oozing from strange places can also occur with fibrinolytic administration. Believe me, I've seen it happen, and I've watched people die from them.

The idea that a small dose taken orally is healthy is ridiculous. Even if nattokinase worked, why the heck would you take an agent that has known dangerous and very real consequences?

Don't let this idiocy reflect poorly on the K2 conversation, which, I believe, holds real merit and is backed by legitimate science. This is symptomatic of a larger difficulty with the supplement industry: Insane and unfounded claims about one supplement erodes credibility for the entire industry. It gives regulation-crazed people like the FDA ammunition to go after supplements, something none of us need. You and I have to sift through the nonsense to uncover the real gems in this rockpile, real gems like vitamin D3, omega-3 fatty acids from fish oil, and, perhaps, vitamin K2. But not nattokinase.

Blood pressure with exercise

Here's a frequently neglected cause for an increasing CT heart scan score: High blood pressure with exercise. Let me explain.

Paul's blood pressure at rest, sitting in the office or on arising in the morning, or at other relatively peaceful moments: 110/75 to 130/80--all in the conventional normal range.

We put Paul on the treadmill for a stress test. At 10 mets of effort (on the protocol used, this means 3.4 mph treadmill speed at 14 degree incline), Paul's blood pressure skyrockets to 220/105. That's really high.

Now, blood pressure is expected to increase with exercise. If it doesn't rise, that's abnormal and may, in fact, be a sign of danger. Normally, blood pressure should rise gradually in a stepwise fashion with increasing levels of exercise. But any blood pressure exceeding 170/90 is clearly too high with exercise. (Not to be confused with high blood pressures not involving exercise.) A handful of studies have suggested that a "breakpoint" of 170/90 also predicts heightened risk of heart attack over a long period.)

I see this phenomenon frequently--normal blood pressure at rest, high with exercise. This also suggests that when Paul is stressed, upset, in traffic congestion, under pressure at work, etc., his blood pressure is high during those periods, as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see other phenomena of underappreciated high blood pressure, like abnormally thick heart muscle (left ventricular hypertrophy), an enlarged thoracic aorta (visible on your heart scan), left atrium, perhaps even an abnormal EKG or abnormal kidney function (evidenced by an elevated creatinine on a standard blood panel).

Unfortunately, the treatments that reduce blood pressure are "stupid," i.e., they have no appreciation for what you are doing and they reduce blood pressure all the time, whether or not you're stressed, exercising, or sleeping.

Blood pressure reduction should begin with weight loss, exercise, reduction of saturated fats and processed carbohydrates (esp. wheat), magnesium replacement, vitamin D replacement. Think about CoQ10. After this, blood pressure medication might be necessary.

The message: Watch out for the blood pressures when you have a stress test. Or, if you have a friend who is adept at getting blood pressures, get a blood pressure immediately upon ceasing exercise. It should be no higher than 170/90.

Vitamin D2 vs. vitamin D3

An interesting question came up on the Track Your Plaque Member Forum about vitamin D2 vs. vitamin D3. This often comes up among our patients, as well.

Vitamin D is measured in the blood as 25-OH-vitamin D and is distinct from 1,25-diOH-vitamin D, a kidney measure, a test you do not need unless you have kidney failure.

The human form of vitamin D is cholecalciferol and is usually obtained via activation of a precursor molecule in the skin on activation by the sun. You can also take cholecalciferol and it increases blood levels of 25-hydroxy vitamin D reliably.

However, there is a cheap, plant-sourced, alternative to vitamin D3, called vitamin D2, or ergocalciferol. D2 has far less effect in the body. Taking D2 or ergocalciferol orally is an extremely inefficient way to get D. Unfortunately, it's the form often used in milk and many supplements, even the prescription form of D. About half the multivitamins and calcium supplements I've looked at contain ergocalciferol rather than cholecalciferol.

Taking vitamin D2 yields very little conversion to the effective D3. This particular issues is maddening, as the USDA requires dairy farmers to add 100 units of vitamin D to milk, and D2 is often used. In other words, the D in many dairy products barely works at all. There are many children who rely on D from dairy products who are at risk for rickets and are not getting the D they need from dairy products because of this cost-saving switch. Do not rely on milk for vitamin D for your children.

D2 or ergocalciferol is often included in the blood measures of vitamin D along with vitamin D3. The only reason it's checked with blood work is to ensure "compliance,", i.e., see whether or not you're taking a prescribed ergocalciferol. Beyond this, it has no usefulness.

25-OH-vitamin D3, or cholecalciferol, is both the blood measure and the supplement you need. This is the one that packs all the punch. Keep in mind also that it is the oil-based gelcap you want, with more consistent and efficient absorption. Tablets usually barely work at all, even if it contains cholecalciferol. Most people who take calcium tablets with D, or multivitamin with D, not only are getting a powdered form of D, but also in trivial doses. It's the pure vitamin D3, cholecalciferol, in gelcap form you want if you desire all the spectacular benefits of vitamin D.
Heart Scan Blog Redux: Cheers to flavonoids

Heart Scan Blog Redux: Cheers to flavonoids

Because in Track Your Plaque we've been thinking a lot about anthocyanins, here's a rerun of a previous Heart Scan Blog post about red wine. (Anthocyanins are among the interesting flavonoids in red wine, along with resveratrol and quercetin.)


The case in favor of healthful flavonoids seems to grow bit by bit.

Flavonoids such as procyanadins in wine and chocolate, catechins in tea, and those in walnuts, pomegranates, and pycnogenol (pine bark extract) are suspected to block oxidation of LDL (preventing its entry into plaque), normalize abnormal endothelial constriction, and yield platelet-blocking effects (preventing blood clots).

Dr. Roger Corder is a prolific author of many scientific papers detailing his research into the flavonoids of foods, but wine in particular. He summarizes his findings in a recent book, The Red Wine Diet. Contrary to the obvious vying-for-prime-time title, Dr. Corder's compilation is probably the best mainstream discussion of flavonoids in foods and wines that I've come across. Although it would have been more entertaining if peppered with more wit and humans interest, given the topic, its straightfoward, semi-academic telling of the story makes his points effectively.

Among the important observations Corder makes is that regions of the world with the greatest longevity also correspond to regions with the highest procyanidin flavonoids in their wines.




Regarding the variable flavonoid content of wines, he states:

Although differences in the amount of procyanidins in red wine clearly occur because of the grape variety and the vineyard environment, the winemaker holds the key to what ends up in the bottle. The most important aspect of the winemaking process for ensuring high procyanidins in red wines is the contact time between the liquid and the grape seeds during fermentation when the alcohol concentration reaches about 6 percent. Depending on the fermentation temperature, it may be two to three days or more before this extraction process starts. Grape skins float and seeds sink, so the number of times they are pushed down and stirred into the fermenting wine also increases extraction of procyanidins. Even so, extraction is a slow process and, after fermentation is complete, many red wines are left to macerate with their seeds and skins for days or even weeks in order to extract all the color, flavor, and tannins. Wines that have a contact time of less than seven days will have a relatively low level of procyanidins. Wines with a contact time of ten to fourteen days have decent levels, and those with contact times of three weeks or more have the highest.

He points out that deeply-colored reds are more likely to be richer in procyanidins; mass-produced wines that are usually "house-grade" served at bars and restaurants tend to be low. Some are close to zero.

Wines rich in procyanidins provide several-fold more, such that a single glass can provide the same purported health benefit as several glasses of a procyanidin-poor wine.

So how do various wines stack up in procyanidin content? Here's an abbreviated list from his book:

Australian--tend to be low, except for Australian Cabernet Sauvignon which is moderate.

Chile--only Cabernet Sauvignon stands out, then only moderate in content.

France--Where to start? The French, of course, are the perennial masters of wine, and prolonged contact with skins and seeds is usually taken for granted in many varieties of wine. Each wine region (French wines are generally designated by region, not by variety of grape) can also vary widely in flavonoid content. Nonetheless, Bordeaux rate moderately; Burgundy low to moderate (except the village of Pommard); Languedoc-Roussillon moderate to high (and many great bargains in my experience, since these producers live in the shadow of its northern Bordeaux neighbors); Rhone (Cote du Rhone) moderate to high, though beware of their powerful "barnyard" character upon opening; decanting is wise.

Italy--Much red Italian wine is made from the Sangiovese grape and called variously Chianti, Valpolicella, and "super-Tuscan" when blended with other varietals. Corder rates the southern Italian wines from Sicily, Sardinia, and the mainland as high in procyanidins; most northern varieties are moderate.

Spain--Moderate in general.

United States--Though his comments are disappointingly scanty on the U.S., he points out that Cabernet Sauvignon is the standout for procyanidin content. He mentions only the Napa/Sonoma regions, unfortunately. (I'd like to know how the San Diego-Temecula and Virginian wines fare, for instance.)

The winner in procyanidin content is a variety grown in the Gers region of southwest France, a region with superior longevity of its residents. The wines here are made with the tannat grape within the Madiran appellation; wines labeled "Madiran" must contain 40% or more tannat to be so labeled (such is a quirk of French wine regulation). Among the producers Dr. Corder lists are Chateau de Sabazan, Chateau Saint-Go, Chateau du Bascou, Domaine Labranche Laffont, and Chateau d'Aydie. (A more complete list can be found in his book.)

How does this all figure into the Track Your Plaque program? Can you succeed without red wine? Of course you can. I doubt you could do it, however, without some attention to flavonoid-rich food sources, whether they come from spinach, tea, chocolate, beets, pomegranates, or red wine.

Though my wife and I love wine, I confess that I've never personally drank or even seen a French Madiran wine. Any wine afficionados with some advice?

Comments (32) -

  • Anne

    11/13/2009 12:55:39 PM |

    Well that is lovely to know as we drink a glass of Languedoc red wine every day with our evening meal ! We're lucky enough to have a house in the Languedoc and we load our car up with red wine when we return home to the UK so we always have enough to keep us going between trips.  Just ordinary coteaux du languedoc, nothing fancy, comes in a 'bag in box', just what the locals drink every day and it doesn't cost a lot. Our current favourite 'cave' is at the village of  Montpeyroux.

    My little icon is a photo of the Lac du Salagou nearby.

    Santé,
    Anne

  • Anne

    11/13/2009 1:03:03 PM |

    PS - clicking my name takes you to my blogger details and link to my Web Page of photos of the Languedoc....and some vineyards Smile

  • Bill

    11/13/2009 2:02:36 PM |

    It was Dr. Corder's book that set me on the right track with my diet, back in 2006.
    Here in the UK, Madiran is available at around $15 a bottle, but discounted to around $8 periodically. I had discovered that if I drank only full bodied red wine, I didn't gain weight. Beer piles the weight on for me.
    I progressed from a mediterranean diet to a paleo diet.
    I would recommend you look for Argentinian high altitude heavy red wines.(Malbec) They are considerably cheaper and more available in The USA.
    I fully support the flavinoids mantra.
    Green tea and 90% cocoa dark chocolate are staples in my diet. Red wine 2-3 times a week.

  • John Fisher

    11/13/2009 3:22:56 PM |

    Good post. Now we can have a healthy heart and enjoy drinking red wine as well. One issue that is missing from your post is the frequent and widespread contamination of (red) wine with pesticides, fungicides, herbicides and artificial fertilizers.
    I am living near a wine region and I know that the grapes get sprayed regularly with all this, as much as 10 times per year.

    The alternative is certified organic wine, which is hard to come by.

  • Reise Rachid Jaudy

    11/13/2009 5:34:22 PM |

    Gostei do blog tanto da cor, estrutura, como do conteudo em geral. Parabéns

  • Anonymous

    11/13/2009 6:41:49 PM |

    I thought the fructose in pomegranate juice (or any juice) was very unhealthy? do the benefits of the flavonoids outweigh the costs of the fructose?

    Dave

  • Adam Wilk

    11/13/2009 9:29:51 PM |

    I'm not a wine drinker at all, but I wonder if cooking with it gives the same benefit at all, since my wife cooks with red wine alot--it makes everything even more delicious, and hopefully healthier, too!

    As far as cocoa goes, I add a teaspoon of organic cocoa to my morning coffee, with the hope that I am 'supercharging' my morning brew! (In addition to a packet of Truvia, a dab of coconut oil, and organic cream...)

    Yes, life is good... Wink
    Adam

  • Anonymous

    11/13/2009 9:46:11 PM |

    From some research I've seen the Southern US muscadine grape has the highest levels of anthocyanins (especially resveratrol).  The skins on the grapes are super thick and this variety is rather impervious to mold, rot, etc.

  • Flowerdew Onehundred

    11/13/2009 11:00:43 PM |

    I would also like to know how Virginia wine fares since we drink so much of it, but it's all produced by pretty small operations, so I would imagine it varies.

    Actually, most of what I buy is from two vineyards.  I guess I could just ask the winemakers how long the reds have the seeds and skins in the fermentation.

  • Suresh

    11/13/2009 11:21:35 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Would eating plain red grapes bring out the same benefits as red wine ? I have read the reserveterol is present in red grape skins.

    Thanks!

    -Suresh

  • Rick

    11/14/2009 3:55:51 AM |

    Red wine always makes me feel sick, though I can drink white wine. Is there any reason to think that procyanidins are the cause of this? Any other differences between red and white wine that could be the reason?

  • Hampers

    11/14/2009 7:24:44 AM |

    Your blog looks wonderful with info on  how do various wines stack up in procyanidin content? It was nice going to know about it. you seems to be informative and resourceful.

  • Dr. William Davis

    11/14/2009 1:50:37 PM |

    Hi, Anne--

    A fellow Telemann fan!

    I envy your easy access to Languedoc. They are only occasionally available here.

  • Bill

    11/14/2009 1:52:02 PM |

    A link to Roger Corder's wine rating page.
    http://the-red-wine-diet.com/id1.html

  • Dr. William Davis

    11/14/2009 1:53:48 PM |

    Hi, Suresh--

    No, grapes and wines are different due to the process of fermentation. Obviously, wine has alcohol, which raises HDL. Beyond this, flavonoids undergo changes as wine ages. This is actually an active area of research in wine technology.

  • Dr. William Davis

    11/14/2009 1:54:31 PM |

    Hi, Rick--

    I do not believe it's the flavonoids that make you ill. Otherwise, other flavonoid sources like cocoa or green tea might do the same.

  • Ana Wire

    11/14/2009 4:33:35 PM |

    Hello Dr. Davis,
    yes, the question still is: what´s about the fructose? Isn´t a harm here? Great blog, Ana

  • pmpctek

    11/14/2009 7:26:37 PM |

    I've read elsewhere that other  good sources of procyanidins that have yet to be listed are:

    red delicious apples (skin)
    granny smith apples (skin)
    macintosh apples (skin)
    raspberries
    wild blueberries
    cranberries
    bilberries
    black chokeberries
    peanuts (skin)
    cinnamon
    black currant

  • Dave

    11/14/2009 7:39:52 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Since Pine Bark extract is 95% oligomeric proanthocyamis, do yout thing that would qualify as a viable alternate to red wine.

  • Carl H

    11/16/2009 3:21:34 PM |

    http://www.winecountry.com/writers/w001/122707_savvy_redwine.html

    Another synopsis of the wine diet.  I noted that old-vine zinfandel from California and mountain-grown old vine malbec from Argentina offer acceptable amount of procyanidins, and these are a lot easier for me to find locally.  

    One of my favorite sources for both these wines is Patrick Campbell of Laurel Glen/CA.  He offers 'REDS' a very affordable and tasty zin 'field blend'.  This is my house wine:

    http://www.laurelglen.com/laurelglen/catalog/view_product.jsp?product_id=1039&cat_id=1005

    and for a step up - Za Zin old vine zinfandel:

    http://www.laurelglen.com/laurelglen/catalog/view_product.jsp?product_id=1040&cat_id=1005

    He also offers an affordable, tasty old vine malbec from Argentina:

    http://www.laurelglen.com/laurelglen/catalog/view_product.jsp?product_id=1038&cat_id=1008

    The winemaker knows his job & these are all tasty, very affordable and well made.  I have no interest in said winery, just know what I like - and can afford.

    Let me also recommend both concord grape juice and cranberry juice as reasonable sources to augment 'the good stuff'.

  • David

    11/18/2009 10:59:07 PM |

    I love red wine and I adore procyanidins! Corder is exactly right- these are the most bioactive compounds in wine, clearly more important than the weak resveratrol content. And I have 2 quick solutions for problems here:

    1) If you want much higher levels of procyanidins than any wine without the alcohol, sugars and/or pesticides, check out Apple Poly, the richest procyanidin pure fruit extract. Blueberries and hawthorn berries are also good sources.

    2) It turns out the wine tasters had the right idea. Resveratrol (but not procyanidins) are absorbed best in humans via buccal (cheek, gum) tissue- up to 100 times better than swallowing! So be sure to swish. Procyanidins are too large for this method, but they're well-absorbed when swallowed, especially the water-soluble apple skin variety.

    Thanks again for posting this, Doc. Procyanidins are little miracles for your heart, your brain, your colon, and your cells!

  • Jon K

    12/9/2009 2:59:18 PM |

    I was fortunate to grow up in Agen, and Madiran wines were often on our table. As were wines from Cahors (Cahors are among the darkest wines in the world). They are usually very good wines.

    Jon Kjölstad, Sweden

  • Carl H

    1/8/2010 1:17:11 AM |

    Doctor Davis, scanned a wine article by an online wine writer that I enjoy.  He was touting several 'velvety reds' and I noted one w/tannat - like the Madirans mentioned above - and some nice Malbecs.  I've found over the years that my tastes coincide well with his, if he likes a bottle I probably will too.  
    Thought you might have better luck finding something like these:  

    http://www.examiner.com/x-2207-Denver-Wine-Examiner~y2010m1d7-Sweet-dreams-of-velvety-reds?cid=examiner-email

  • Anonymous

    3/20/2010 4:28:40 AM |

    As a wine collector and a resveratrol researcher I found Corders book rather flat.  The wines with the highest none Resveratrol content worldwide are Malbecs from the Andes in Mendoza. And if you want to read a great scientific review of the cutting edge science of David Sinclair in this arena read the The Longevity Factor by Joe Maroon MD.  That book has guts.

  • Carl H

    5/11/2010 10:44:36 PM |

    A recently released bargain Malbec suggestion.  The "Black Box" folks now carry a Mendoza Malbec box wine.  Retail $25 or so for 3 liters, I just bought some on sale for $17.  At full retail it's $6ish per 750ml bottle of dark, (flavonoid-laden) and tasty juice.  At my price, $4.25/per.  I don't think I can find a better buy on a high-altitude grown dark wine - tho' there aren't a lot of tannins.  I think it tastes great.  

    http://winecentric.blogspot.com/2010/04/black-box-mendoza-argentina-malbec-2008.html

  • Dr Mashego from Revup31

    7/25/2010 5:50:57 AM |

    Hi, I am a general practitioner from South Africa and I wanted to thank you for the informative post. I will look up "The Red Wine Diet"
    I am not a wine drinker but I have been researching resveratrol for a new product RevUp31.

    I am intrigued by the sheer amount of research done on wines, wine preparation and natural compounds to prevent disease.

    I am tired of being a "legal drug pusher" and rather want to help my patients stay healthy and enjoy life.

  • Dena

    7/27/2010 11:34:36 AM |

    Thanks for your informative blog. Have been looking into Resveratrol Vitamins, an anti-oxidant which is found in the skin of red grapes.

    Do you think a sensible one glass of red wine per day can have the same benefits as Resveratrol vitamins for heart disease.

    Please keep updating, I will keep reading.

    Dena

  • Max

    8/29/2010 6:23:32 AM |

    It's amazing to me that with all of the people trying to find the next great supplement or whatever, that red wine still just trumps them all in terms of antioxidants and all sorts of goodies. Great post, really would love to get more into this.

  • Piper

    10/28/2010 4:43:25 AM |

    Red wine, their diet, and their active lifestyle are the primary reason why the French lives long. Red wine contains natural resveratrol, when consumed regularly, it regulates the heart and kills the cancer cells, therefore, giving them longevity.

    But, other than consuming red wine, there are places where you can buy resveratrol by the capsule, which contains more resveratrol than wine itself.

  • buy jeans

    11/3/2010 10:15:47 PM |

    Wines rich in procyanidins provide several-fold more, such that a single glass can provide the same purported health benefit as several glasses of a procyanidin-poor wine.

  • HERBCYCLOPEDIA

    4/30/2011 10:13:10 AM |

    Flavonoids are great, many fruits contain flavonoids but not only fruits, even cocoa contains flavonoids, that´s why dark chocolate is able to lower cholesterol levels.

  • mike

    7/29/2012 1:20:10 PM |

    Don't like the plastic liner in the black box wine. BPA leaches out into the wine. I do recall in the book that turning leaf and private selections robert mondavi cabernet sauvignons were given 2 hearts and 3 hearts respectivly with 5 hearts being the best and 1 the least.

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